Comments on: Speculation: Worlds Collide at Marvel? http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/02/22/speculation-worlds-collide-at-marvel/ The Blog@ Team and prominent comics personalities share what’s on their minds. Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:55:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: hondobrode http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/02/22/speculation-worlds-collide-at-marvel/comment-page-1/#comment-792430 hondobrode Thu, 28 Feb 2013 02:09:18 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=35257#comment-792430 THIS would get me reading Marvel again. I hope they do it. Mush everything together : 616, NU, Ultimate, CrossGen, Marvelman. That's genuinely exciting. THIS would get me reading Marvel again.

I hope they do it. Mush everything together : 616, NU, Ultimate, CrossGen, Marvelman.

That’s genuinely exciting.

]]> By: Comic-Reader Lad http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/02/22/speculation-worlds-collide-at-marvel/comment-page-1/#comment-792168 Comic-Reader Lad Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:37:56 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=35257#comment-792168 Hyperion's presence in the Avengers is bugging me enough because I'm tired of all the Superman knockoffs at Marvel, so if they were going to go all the way and do a Crisis type story, then what little faith I have in Marvel to do something original would be gone for good. Bringing back the New Universe doesn't thrill me because it was dead on arrival back in 1986, and it was also dead on revival a few years ago. There really aren't any good New Universe characters in the first place so why go to all the effort? The only halfway memorable character was Star Brand, their Green Lantern knockoff, but we already have Nova for that. All that being said, I do think Hickman is a talented writer in general -- just not digging this storyline idea. I'd like to see Hickman go over to DC one day because I think those big, whacked out high concept stories he likes to do seem to be more DC-type stories anyway. Hyperion’s presence in the Avengers is bugging me enough because I’m tired of all the Superman knockoffs at Marvel, so if they were going to go all the way and do a Crisis type story, then what little faith I have in Marvel to do something original would be gone for good.

Bringing back the New Universe doesn’t thrill me because it was dead on arrival back in 1986, and it was also dead on revival a few years ago. There really aren’t any good New Universe characters in the first place so why go to all the effort? The only halfway memorable character was Star Brand, their Green Lantern knockoff, but we already have Nova for that.

All that being said, I do think Hickman is a talented writer in general — just not digging this storyline idea. I’d like to see Hickman go over to DC one day because I think those big, whacked out high concept stories he likes to do seem to be more DC-type stories anyway.

]]> By: Ken from Chicago http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/02/22/speculation-worlds-collide-at-marvel/comment-page-1/#comment-792141 Ken from Chicago Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:59:46 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=35257#comment-792141 First, was that linked preview to 4 pages of wordless pictures suppose to be familiar to fans of the New Universe? specifically the "alien" with the big eyes and no nose (or some tall helmet)? Admittedly my knowledge of the New Universe is ... basically the Starbrand and The Pitt, but was that really something NU fans recognized? Second, as far as a Marvel Infinit[y] Crisis, yes, I've long argued both DC and Marvel should simply embrace the idea of reboots. Yes, reboots, plural, cyclical reboots, as they seem to have them basically once a decade. They could use them to dump the story elements that didn't work (I'm looking at you "Sins Past", "Brand New Day", and much of Joey Q's obsessive denial of Peter Parker and Mary Jane's growth / marriage, convoluted X-Men history, the New 52 scenes of Batman and Catwoman having sex without knowing each other's real identities or the horrible portrayal of Starfire)--while retaining stories that did work (Iron Man going public and mimicking his Robert Downey Jr portrayal over the lame Civil War version, Aquaman finally showing he more than capable of being heroic out of water, rainbow of Lanterns establishing the mythos of Lanterns and colors and emotions). Plus if readers don't care for choices made in a particular cycle of reboots, there's always hope that a future reboot will be more to their liking. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.comics.dc.universe/mS72YbKSQ4A/EWE9nxQT8x8J First, was that linked preview to 4 pages of wordless pictures suppose to be familiar to fans of the New Universe? specifically the “alien” with the big eyes and no nose (or some tall helmet)? Admittedly my knowledge of the New Universe is … basically the Starbrand and The Pitt, but was that really something NU fans recognized?

Second, as far as a Marvel Infinit[y] Crisis, yes, I’ve long argued both DC and Marvel should simply embrace the idea of reboots. Yes, reboots, plural, cyclical reboots, as they seem to have them basically once a decade. They could use them to dump the story elements that didn’t work (I’m looking at you “Sins Past”, “Brand New Day”, and much of Joey Q’s obsessive denial of Peter Parker and Mary Jane’s growth / marriage, convoluted X-Men history, the New 52 scenes of Batman and Catwoman having sex without knowing each other’s real identities or the horrible portrayal of Starfire)–while retaining stories that did work (Iron Man going public and mimicking his Robert Downey Jr portrayal over the lame Civil War version, Aquaman finally showing he more than capable of being heroic out of water, rainbow of Lanterns establishing the mythos of Lanterns and colors and emotions).

Plus if readers don’t care for choices made in a particular cycle of reboots, there’s always hope that a future reboot will be more to their liking.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.comics.dc.universe/mS72YbKSQ4A/EWE9nxQT8x8J

]]> By: Kyle Garret http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/02/22/speculation-worlds-collide-at-marvel/comment-page-1/#comment-792103 Kyle Garret Sun, 24 Feb 2013 21:27:21 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=35257#comment-792103 There you go! It IS necessary and Marvel has more than 4 non-616 titles. Straight from the top! There you go! It IS necessary and Marvel has more than 4 non-616 titles.

Straight from the top!

]]> By: Tom Brevoort http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/02/22/speculation-worlds-collide-at-marvel/comment-page-1/#comment-791938 Tom Brevoort Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:07:10 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=35257#comment-791938 @Kyle Garrett No and no @Kyle Garrett

No and no

]]> By: Dan Radice http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/02/22/speculation-worlds-collide-at-marvel/comment-page-1/#comment-791934 Dan Radice Fri, 22 Feb 2013 19:33:22 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=35257#comment-791934 I hope marvel relaunches all their comics again. I love number one issues. That's how I know something is new and good. I hope marvel relaunches all their comics again. I love number one issues. That’s how I know something is new and good.

]]> By: Adam http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/02/22/speculation-worlds-collide-at-marvel/comment-page-1/#comment-791931 Adam Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:56:29 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=35257#comment-791931 Ah, but remember Iron Man's map of the future from back in 2010's Avengers #5. The event after "Ultron War" is "Infinite Futures." The "future map" has been astonishingly accurate, so it could be that Infinity was also part of the grand plan.... Ah, but remember Iron Man’s map of the future from back in 2010′s Avengers #5. The event after “Ultron War” is “Infinite Futures.” The “future map” has been astonishingly accurate, so it could be that Infinity was also part of the grand plan….

]]> By: revelshade http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/02/22/speculation-worlds-collide-at-marvel/comment-page-1/#comment-791925 revelshade Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:39:58 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=35257#comment-791925 They should call the event "Ultimate Crisis"! They should call the event “Ultimate Crisis”!

]]> By: Kyle Garret http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/02/22/speculation-worlds-collide-at-marvel/comment-page-1/#comment-791923 Kyle Garret Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:38:36 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=35257#comment-791923 It seems unnecessary, doesn't it? DC's original Crisis was the result of having a lot of titles that weren't a part of the mainstream DCU. Marvel has, what, four? If that is what they're planning, then I would think it's coming from on high, aka Disney. Perhaps they think that the lack of movie ticket sales translating into comic sales is because not every comic actually takes place in the Marvel U. There's probably something to that, at least as far as Ultimate Spider-man is concerned. I'm sure people looking for a book based on the cartoon are confused by two different Ultimate Spider-man titles. I hope you're right, Graeme, if for no other reason than I hope DC follows in their footsteps, keeping what's worked from the New 52, and giving their long time fans the rich history they miss. It seems unnecessary, doesn’t it? DC’s original Crisis was the result of having a lot of titles that weren’t a part of the mainstream DCU. Marvel has, what, four?

If that is what they’re planning, then I would think it’s coming from on high, aka Disney. Perhaps they think that the lack of movie ticket sales translating into comic sales is because not every comic actually takes place in the Marvel U.

There’s probably something to that, at least as far as Ultimate Spider-man is concerned. I’m sure people looking for a book based on the cartoon are confused by two different Ultimate Spider-man titles.

I hope you’re right, Graeme, if for no other reason than I hope DC follows in their footsteps, keeping what’s worked from the New 52, and giving their long time fans the rich history they miss.

]]> By: Dan Radice http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/02/22/speculation-worlds-collide-at-marvel/comment-page-1/#comment-791920 Dan Radice Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:33:44 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=35257#comment-791920 I think the easier question is: Did marvel figure out a way to do their own Crisis on Infinite Earths? I think the easier question is: Did marvel figure out a way to do their own Crisis on Infinite Earths?

]]> By: Aaron Poehler http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/02/22/speculation-worlds-collide-at-marvel/comment-page-1/#comment-791918 Aaron Poehler Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:25:38 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=35257#comment-791918 "Is it that ridiculous to imagine the best of the Ultimate line somehow becoming embedded within the regular Marvel U in the near future?" What, like a black Nick Fury? Nah, never happen. “Is it that ridiculous to imagine the best of the Ultimate line somehow becoming embedded within the regular Marvel U in the near future?”

What, like a black Nick Fury? Nah, never happen.

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