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	<title>Comments on: The Big Two Fail at Writer Diversity</title>
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		<title>By: Rob Guillory</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/02/05/the-big-two-fail-at-writer-diversity/comment-page-1/#comment-789717</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Guillory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 13:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a black creator myself, who&#039;s been doing shows for the last 11 years, I can honestly count on one hand the number of black writers I&#039;ve ever encountered. And when you get into black female creators working OR trying to break in, I honestly cannot recall ANY. Now, maybe I&#039;m not doing the right shows, but I&#039;ve been to shows all over the world, and I haven&#039;t bumped into them.

So the problem is either that the black creators aren&#039;t doing enough to be visible, or that the talent pool is just fairly small. I kinda lean toward the latter. That&#039;s not saying anything negative about black creators, but there certainly seem to be more folks of other ethnicities trying to break in than black folks. 

Why is that? No idea. All I know is that in any industry that starts out predominantly white, the integration of that industry tends to start slow, with a few creators. Then, as those few creators gain success, other creators of that race rise up, and the talent pool expands. I think that&#039;s the case in comics. Kyle Baker paved the way for guys like me, and I pave the way for the guys after me.

My problem with the article is that I think it insinuates that companies are racist and should be looking at talent with their race in mind. 

&quot;Well, this artist&#039;s portfolio is okay, but not spectacular...BUT he&#039;s black, and we have a quota to meet.&quot;

To me, race should NOT be a hindrance OR an advantage. It&#039;s the content of the work that matters, much as Dr. King said it is the content of our characters that truly matters. Let the work speak for itself and leave race out of this.

If we have learned anything from the Big Two&#039;s relentless shoveling and reshuffling of tired, decades-old concepts, it&#039;s that Green is the only color that matters to them. If someone can make them money, they are hired. Period.

But look at the bright side. There&#039;s more money to be made in the independents anyway. Not to mention freedom of expression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a black creator myself, who&#8217;s been doing shows for the last 11 years, I can honestly count on one hand the number of black writers I&#8217;ve ever encountered. And when you get into black female creators working OR trying to break in, I honestly cannot recall ANY. Now, maybe I&#8217;m not doing the right shows, but I&#8217;ve been to shows all over the world, and I haven&#8217;t bumped into them.</p>
<p>So the problem is either that the black creators aren&#8217;t doing enough to be visible, or that the talent pool is just fairly small. I kinda lean toward the latter. That&#8217;s not saying anything negative about black creators, but there certainly seem to be more folks of other ethnicities trying to break in than black folks. </p>
<p>Why is that? No idea. All I know is that in any industry that starts out predominantly white, the integration of that industry tends to start slow, with a few creators. Then, as those few creators gain success, other creators of that race rise up, and the talent pool expands. I think that&#8217;s the case in comics. Kyle Baker paved the way for guys like me, and I pave the way for the guys after me.</p>
<p>My problem with the article is that I think it insinuates that companies are racist and should be looking at talent with their race in mind. </p>
<p>&#8220;Well, this artist&#8217;s portfolio is okay, but not spectacular&#8230;BUT he&#8217;s black, and we have a quota to meet.&#8221;</p>
<p>To me, race should NOT be a hindrance OR an advantage. It&#8217;s the content of the work that matters, much as Dr. King said it is the content of our characters that truly matters. Let the work speak for itself and leave race out of this.</p>
<p>If we have learned anything from the Big Two&#8217;s relentless shoveling and reshuffling of tired, decades-old concepts, it&#8217;s that Green is the only color that matters to them. If someone can make them money, they are hired. Period.</p>
<p>But look at the bright side. There&#8217;s more money to be made in the independents anyway. Not to mention freedom of expression.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/02/05/the-big-two-fail-at-writer-diversity/comment-page-1/#comment-789699</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 09:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So are we saying that the Big Two need to diversify to appeal to a wider fan base or make a good product that appeals to wider fan base? Diversity for the sake of diversity doesn&#039;t make good comics (or anything for that matter). We can speculate all we want about why there aren&#039;t as many black/asian/hispanic/whatever writers, but in the end, we don&#039;t know why they aren&#039;t being chosen. Could be the ones that have applied are simply not that good or don&#039;t provide what a company is looking for. Could be that there aren&#039;t that many are even circulating in the industry. Or there could be rampant racism, who knows. 

If a writer/artist is good enough and has the want to, they will get hired. Regardless of skin color.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So are we saying that the Big Two need to diversify to appeal to a wider fan base or make a good product that appeals to wider fan base? Diversity for the sake of diversity doesn&#8217;t make good comics (or anything for that matter). We can speculate all we want about why there aren&#8217;t as many black/asian/hispanic/whatever writers, but in the end, we don&#8217;t know why they aren&#8217;t being chosen. Could be the ones that have applied are simply not that good or don&#8217;t provide what a company is looking for. Could be that there aren&#8217;t that many are even circulating in the industry. Or there could be rampant racism, who knows. </p>
<p>If a writer/artist is good enough and has the want to, they will get hired. Regardless of skin color.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Armstrong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 00:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are there black writers working on other comics or media that are being turned down?

as an aside, pre-internet i had no idea that say trevor von eeden was black or that christopher priest was black</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are there black writers working on other comics or media that are being turned down?</p>
<p>as an aside, pre-internet i had no idea that say trevor von eeden was black or that christopher priest was black</p>
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		<title>By: Simon DelMonte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon DelMonte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 22:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I have to ask - and I want to be answered - who are the minority writers at the other major companies.  I can&#039;t name any, but there must be some at Image, IDW, Dark Horse, Boom, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I have to ask &#8211; and I want to be answered &#8211; who are the minority writers at the other major companies.  I can&#8217;t name any, but there must be some at Image, IDW, Dark Horse, Boom, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 20:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not terribly surprised, sadly.  But I think it&#039;s as much a reflection of the &quot;house style&quot; of storytelling DC has in place currently as it&#039;s anything else.  The fact is, if your line isn&#039;t very diverse, and I don&#039;t mean just racially, but in how the stories are told, what the characters are like, and so on, how likely are you to get diverse creators interested in working for you?

Could DC (and Marvel) be actively looking for creators with different backgrounds and ideas?  Sure.  And I&#039;d say they should, but that doesn&#039;t gel with what they want out of their line editorially.  Most of their comics and characters these days read the same.  I&#039;m not saying whether the quality is high or low (it fluctuates, of course, but that&#039;s based on the skill of the creators, not what DC is guiding them to do).  At most, they are branched into families, like Dark, Batman, Teens, and so on, but most of those are still very much the same.  And, say what you will, but it&#039;s working for them, and has for years.  How long has it been since we&#039;ve seen them try anything outside those standards?  Tiny Titans (which Superman Family Adventures followed, but actually came closer to DC proper than TT was)?  How long ago was Young Superheroes In Love?  The Minx line?

What good does it do to request diversity of creators without then embracing a diversity of output from them?  If black woman wants to come to DC and write a standard Batman or Green Lantern story, fine, I don&#039;t think DC wouldn&#039;t hire them.  But how many want to do that?  Not just are capable, but really want to?  I&#039;ve been saying the same thing about many female creators in general.

I long for this diversity.  And yes, I realize the irony of wanting to see new voices and ideas introduced into a company of long-established characters, exclusively superheroes.  Is it really up to DC and Marvel to grow beyond their comfort zone, or is it up to the fans to push themselves outside of ours and start reading comics we&#039;re not already family with or beholden to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not terribly surprised, sadly.  But I think it&#8217;s as much a reflection of the &#8220;house style&#8221; of storytelling DC has in place currently as it&#8217;s anything else.  The fact is, if your line isn&#8217;t very diverse, and I don&#8217;t mean just racially, but in how the stories are told, what the characters are like, and so on, how likely are you to get diverse creators interested in working for you?</p>
<p>Could DC (and Marvel) be actively looking for creators with different backgrounds and ideas?  Sure.  And I&#8217;d say they should, but that doesn&#8217;t gel with what they want out of their line editorially.  Most of their comics and characters these days read the same.  I&#8217;m not saying whether the quality is high or low (it fluctuates, of course, but that&#8217;s based on the skill of the creators, not what DC is guiding them to do).  At most, they are branched into families, like Dark, Batman, Teens, and so on, but most of those are still very much the same.  And, say what you will, but it&#8217;s working for them, and has for years.  How long has it been since we&#8217;ve seen them try anything outside those standards?  Tiny Titans (which Superman Family Adventures followed, but actually came closer to DC proper than TT was)?  How long ago was Young Superheroes In Love?  The Minx line?</p>
<p>What good does it do to request diversity of creators without then embracing a diversity of output from them?  If black woman wants to come to DC and write a standard Batman or Green Lantern story, fine, I don&#8217;t think DC wouldn&#8217;t hire them.  But how many want to do that?  Not just are capable, but really want to?  I&#8217;ve been saying the same thing about many female creators in general.</p>
<p>I long for this diversity.  And yes, I realize the irony of wanting to see new voices and ideas introduced into a company of long-established characters, exclusively superheroes.  Is it really up to DC and Marvel to grow beyond their comfort zone, or is it up to the fans to push themselves outside of ours and start reading comics we&#8217;re not already family with or beholden to?</p>
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		<title>By: Uatu</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/02/05/the-big-two-fail-at-writer-diversity/comment-page-1/#comment-789618</link>
		<dc:creator>Uatu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 19:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Albert Ching is Asian.  Erika Duckworth-Peterman of Best Shots is black.  There have been other black, Hispanic and non-American members of the Best Shots team, as well as Blog@ between its original iteration and the big switch up around 2009. Vaneta Rogers is a redhead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Albert Ching is Asian.  Erika Duckworth-Peterman of Best Shots is black.  There have been other black, Hispanic and non-American members of the Best Shots team, as well as Blog@ between its original iteration and the big switch up around 2009. Vaneta Rogers is a redhead.</p>
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		<title>By: RF</title>
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		<dc:creator>RF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 18:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m genuinely curious: how many black writers does Newsarama employ on a regular basis?

The answer could be fifty thousand or zero for all I know, so I&#039;m just wonderin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m genuinely curious: how many black writers does Newsarama employ on a regular basis?</p>
<p>The answer could be fifty thousand or zero for all I know, so I&#8217;m just wonderin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mechagamera</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/02/05/the-big-two-fail-at-writer-diversity/comment-page-1/#comment-789610</link>
		<dc:creator>Mechagamera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 17:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is probably more accurate to say that comics fail at writer diversity, as Joe points out:  &quot;Marvel and DC often hire writers after they&#039;ve had some commercial or critical success at smaller publishers. If these publishers aren&#039;t hiring black writers either, it could certainly be argued that it lowers the chances of Marvel and DC doing so.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is probably more accurate to say that comics fail at writer diversity, as Joe points out:  &#8220;Marvel and DC often hire writers after they&#8217;ve had some commercial or critical success at smaller publishers. If these publishers aren&#8217;t hiring black writers either, it could certainly be argued that it lowers the chances of Marvel and DC doing so.&#8221;</p>
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