Comments on: Death and the Modern Superhero http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/01/31/death-and-the-modern-superhero/ The Blog@ Team and prominent comics personalities share what’s on their minds. Sun, 19 May 2013 11:18:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: J.Dinkhouse http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/01/31/death-and-the-modern-superhero/comment-page-1/#comment-789300 J.Dinkhouse Sat, 02 Feb 2013 14:20:38 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=35078#comment-789300 Marvel basically did do this. Not in a single issue, but in one event. It's called Fear Itself, Fraction said himself in interviews that he was making a bit of a meta-comment on death and resurrection in comics. And, yes, Mechagamera, everyone basically *#?! all over Fear Itself. Marvel basically did do this. Not in a single issue, but in one event. It’s called Fear Itself, Fraction said himself in interviews that he was making a bit of a meta-comment on death and resurrection in comics. And, yes, Mechagamera, everyone basically *#?! all over Fear Itself.

]]> By: Tenebrous http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/01/31/death-and-the-modern-superhero/comment-page-1/#comment-789257 Tenebrous Sat, 02 Feb 2013 04:53:17 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=35078#comment-789257 That's the exact same argument Morrison used during his New X-Men run. He killed Magneto, then brought him back to life a few months later, then killed him again. Then, he claimed in an interview that he only did it to mock all those other lame, unimaginative writers who have to keep killing the villain and bringing him back over and over again as a crutch. Of course, this hasn't stopped Morrison from rehashing this same trick several times in his subsequent Marvel/DC runs, most notably when he had Batman die, only to reveal that it was a clone a few months later. Not only is Kirkman rehashing a tired storytelling trope that has been used dozens of times by other writers, he's using a rehashed sketchy rationalization for said trope. That’s the exact same argument Morrison used during his New X-Men run. He killed Magneto, then brought him back to life a few months later, then killed him again. Then, he claimed in an interview that he only did it to mock all those other lame, unimaginative writers who have to keep killing the villain and bringing him back over and over again as a crutch. Of course, this hasn’t stopped Morrison from rehashing this same trick several times in his subsequent Marvel/DC runs, most notably when he had Batman die, only to reveal that it was a clone a few months later.

Not only is Kirkman rehashing a tired storytelling trope that has been used dozens of times by other writers, he’s using a rehashed sketchy rationalization for said trope.

]]> By: Mechagamera http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/01/31/death-and-the-modern-superhero/comment-page-1/#comment-789187 Mechagamera Fri, 01 Feb 2013 14:56:24 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=35078#comment-789187 Of course if Marvel or DC had done that, Graeme and AC would be talking about how shallow and tacky it was..... Of course if Marvel or DC had done that, Graeme and AC would be talking about how shallow and tacky it was…..

]]> By: AC http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/01/31/death-and-the-modern-superhero/comment-page-1/#comment-789180 AC Fri, 01 Feb 2013 08:56:44 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=35078#comment-789180 @justsaying That's not what he said, or what happened, at all. Invincible "died" on the first page of the book, but it was revealed within a couple pages that it wasn't actually his body that we saw get torn apart (as Kirkman said above, "instead of waiting six months, I brought him back in the exact same issue"). It was a pretty standard (though fun) story fake-out/twist, but what made it "comics, yo" was all the hype and marketing surrounding the issue, making it look like it was going to be an enormous deadly event. Kirkman's point was to subvert that, to make waves with promises of death but in fact deliver a big, series-altering event that was all about a change in attitude, instead. By comparison, the fake death was (by design) an almost completely inconsequential moment in the story, looking back on it. @justsaying

That’s not what he said, or what happened, at all.
Invincible “died” on the first page of the book, but it was revealed within a couple pages that it wasn’t actually his body that we saw get torn apart (as Kirkman said above, “instead of waiting six months, I brought him back in the exact same issue”).

It was a pretty standard (though fun) story fake-out/twist, but what made it “comics, yo” was all the hype and marketing surrounding the issue, making it look like it was going to be an enormous deadly event. Kirkman’s point was to subvert that, to make waves with promises of death but in fact deliver a big, series-altering event that was all about a change in attitude, instead. By comparison, the fake death was (by design) an almost completely inconsequential moment in the story, looking back on it.

]]> By: justsaying http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/01/31/death-and-the-modern-superhero/comment-page-1/#comment-789116 justsaying Thu, 31 Jan 2013 18:10:42 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=35078#comment-789116 No one - that is the point of the article. We discover the character has superhealing powers in about six months when he returns...so once again no one dies. Comics, yo. No one – that is the point of the article. We discover the character has superhealing powers in about six months when he returns…so once again no one dies. Comics, yo.

]]> By: JG http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/01/31/death-and-the-modern-superhero/comment-page-1/#comment-789113 JG Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:47:03 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=35078#comment-789113 So who died? So who died?

]]> By: apk http://blog.newsarama.com/2013/01/31/death-and-the-modern-superhero/comment-page-1/#comment-789106 apk Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:29:14 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=35078#comment-789106 Man, this Kirkman guy should read The Walking Dead. Man, this Kirkman guy should read The Walking Dead.

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