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January 11th, 2013
Author Graeme McMillan

Without a doubt, the must-read piece of the day belongs once again to Tom Spurgeon, whose interview with Mark Waid is just downright amazing – and features revelations like this:

I was actually offered this job about four or five years ago at DC. Dan for a while wanted to move on to a different part of the company. He invited me to take the job, and I went up there and had serious negotiations. We talked about it. Unfortunately, it fell through on some counts that had nothing to do with me. For that week I thought that was the next step of my career? Tom, I felt ten feet tall every day. I really felt like, “Man, this is it. I’ve been watching the Yankees since I was six and I’m finally on the mound, pitching.” Not because I felt, “Everything is broke and I have to fix it.” Or “Oh boy, I get to play with all of these fabulous toys.” It wasn’t quite that simple. It was more of a sense of having gotten to a point where I’m almost as good a teacher as I am a writer. I yearn to be able to work with younger creators and pass along what I know. That doesn’t mean I have all the right answers, and doesn’t mean I’m necessarily going to teach the right things. I’m going to be wrong in a lot of my philosophy, too. That’s just the way it is. I enjoy that part of the job. I would have enjoyed the idea of sitting down with that stable of characters and that stable of writers and having a meaningful dialogue about here’s what I think you’re trying to do, and here’s how I might be able to help you accomplish that. I think I have enough experience under my belt that you can take my suggestions seriously.

Dick Giordano was a hero to me. When I was an editor at DC, I worked directly under Dick. Man, he just defined the whole job for me. You hire the right people, advise and consent from the sidelines but basically try to stay out of their way as much as you can.

Elsewhere, Waid says “My career at DC, about two or three years ago, ended when I was blackballed and forcibly ejected from the place. I’m not saying that out of any sort of bitterness or anger. It’s just a fact.” As a Mark Waid fan and a DC fan, the combination of those two quotes is almost impossibly heartbreaking for me; not only do I consider Waid to be a great writer – and, perhaps equally importantly, a smart writer – but his DC work has always been in tune with my idea of what DC “is,” if that makes sense. As fans, we all have our irrational biases and beliefs about characters and companies and the like; mine is that, despite how genuinely, surprisingly, wonderful Daredevil is, Waid “belongs” at DC. Reading that his career is over there is just sad. Knowing that we missed out on a DCU more infused with Waid’s sensibilities and love of the characters is going to be one of the great “If Only”s of comics for me. I thought Boom! under his tenure of Editor-in-Chief put out some really good, interesting projects, and my mind reels at the idea of what a Waid-led DC with the talent-base of DC five years ago – Morrison, Johns, Simone, Rucka, etc. – could’ve come up with.

All of which is me spinning off of two brief moments in a long interview about many other topics. You should definitely go check it out.

14 Responses to “Maybe Somewhere on Earth-W…”
  1. Simon DelMonte Says:

    So why on Earth did DC drive Waid out? He does belong there. (Try as I might to like it, I find his non-DC work just not as interesting.) He loved it there. What could have happened there?

    And do we really want to know?

  2. Aaron Poehler Says:

    His career at DC has been over before. It may have to wait out regime change, but it’s still possible he’ll write there again one day.

  3. Comic-Reader Lad Says:

    “Two or three years ago” sounds like around the time the whole DC Entertainment thing started.

    I’m liking DC more since the New 52, but I do hear the occasional inside tidbit that there is turmoil in management at DC regarding the comics guys, the movie guys, and Diane Nelson caught in the middle.

    Under Paul Levitz and Jeanette Kahn, DC always tried to stay as invisible as possible to the higher ups at Warner Bros. to avoid their interference, but once Chris Nolan’s “The Dark Night” came out and broke all kinds of records (not the least of which is that it’s Warner Bros. 2nd highest ticket selling movie of all time after “The Exorcist), the writing was on the wall that DC could remain invisible no longer — especially with the simultaneous winding down of the “Harry Potter” franchise.

    It would be interesting to know more of what happened to Waid, but the reality is that DC is more important to Warner as a library of characters than as a publishing company. Perhaps Waid simply didn’t fit into that new mindset.

  4. Dan Coyle Says:

    Waid= Londo

    Johns= G’Kar

    Think about it.

  5. GSO89 Says:

    @ Comic-Reader Lad

    To be fair, it was the success of Road To Perdition that led to the WB viewing DC as a IP comodity(and the Editorial buggery involved whilst kissing up to the higher ups) they’ve been grooming it to be. Only The Dark Knight added on to the current state of DC.

  6. ThePlainTruth Says:

    you might want to interview some creators that felt Waid was very hard to work with as an editor during his time at…..Fatagraphics,Dc Marvel,Cross Gen, Boom,…. as a writer he is amazing asan editopr he has been let go due to personality conflicts many times.

  7. ThePlainTruth Says:

    it is very telling that many creators that worked under Waid when he was an editor at DC —don’t wish to talk about the experience….

    being a creative writer is one thing…
    being a person that can work well with others without taking ideas for his own is something else….
    and listening to your talent and trusting them to do what you say and then dont change things after they have written/drawn things is another…
    Waid wasn’t well liked as an editor.

  8. GSO89 Says:

    A Waid run DCU would’ve been a helluva lot better creative and sales wise than the dogs dinner that is the DiDio regime.

    I hate you Time Warner.

  9. ThePlainTruth Says:

    let’s hear from some of the creative personnel that worked under Waif when he was an editor…. [crickets chirping]

    hmmmmmm that says alot…

    as a writer Waid may be well respected as a boss he was pretty much hated by those he lorded over….
    pretty much explains why he isn’t there.

  10. GSO89 Says:

    ^^^You’re not a TW plant are you?

  11. ThePlainTruth Says:

    No i remember old interviews and articles and some from Graeme cracker himself which details such experiences… from Fantagrphics, DC and Cross Gen…. and am friends with some of those creators…who are pretty decent enough not to trash a fellow creator yet don’t want to ever work for him.

  12. Matthew Halteman Says:

    How convenient, ThePlainTruth (an ironic identity if ever there was one, given that you are not providing your real name). If you cannot provide evidence of what you say, then your comments are less than pointless. Cite references for your accusations or no one will believe anything you say. Or shouldn’t, anyway.

  13. ThePlainTruth Says:

    ha ha ha you only need to ask anyone that worked at Fantagraphics… or Dc or Boom or Cross Gen.. graeme cracker even had articles in his worthless columns….

    yet the whole point is that there are not very many creators speaking his praises to become an editor — in fact the silence is deafening… the whole point is that no one WANTS to discuss working under Waid … or perhaps they dont want to have ideas stolen from them… as well…[oh there is that ]

    The point is most of the creatorsinstead of trash talking like a child with turrets..[like waid does every other week] they respectfully stay silent

  14. Matthew Halteman Says:

    Still not seeing any proof. But if you’re too lazy to provide any (if such exists), then I won’t bother listening to you anymore.

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