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The Problem With Continuity (A Rant)

December 20th, 2012
Author Graeme McMillan

Oh, the tangled web that cross-title continuity weaves sometimes. So, the latest issue of Daredevil ends with a cameo from the Superior Spider-Man, which means that the most recent storyline (#18 onwards) presumably takes place after Amazing Spider-Man #700. Which, itself, takes place after the first storyline in Jonathan Hickman’s Avengers (And yet, no mention of evolution bombs altering cities across the world; maybe they get fixed?). And Hickman’s Avengers takes place after the current Avengers Assemble storyline, considering the costumes everyone is wearing (And the Peter Parker Spider-Man). Given that we see Captain America switch from his old costume to his new costume in Avengers #1, however, that storyline clearly happens before the first issue of Uncanny Avengers, which seems to happen in the immediate aftermath of Avengers Vs. X-Men (Assuming that the funeral of Charles Xavier happened relatively close to his death), which means that all of “Avengers World” happens between AVX and Uncanny Avengers…?

To make matters more confusing, Dan Slott has claimed on Twitter that at least part of Age of Ultron takes place before the final issue of Amazing Spider-Man because we see Peter Parker in action, even though Superior Spider-Man actually has a crossover issue with the event in March. I’m willing to believe that Dan was either joking, lying or flat-out wrong about that, just because Age of Ultron is supposed to be status-quo changing from the get-go and, based on what we’ve seen in Daredevil, the Marvel Universe’s status seems very much as quo as it ever is.

Cross-title continuity can be a wonderful thing, building a sense of a world beyond the pages of the comic you’re reading and making the fictional world that little bit more “real” for the fan. And yet, with the pressure from fans for stories to “matter” or “count” in some vague, wide-reaching, sense these days, and so many characters appearing in multiple titles (Remember when Wolverine used to be the sole character we joked about appearing in multiple books a month? Iron Man will soon be regularly appearing in five ongoing series at once, Captain America in four. Hell, Captain Marvel will soon be simultaneously in three, for Pete’s sake), what we’re ending up with are various series that just step on everyone’s toes. We know that Avengers‘ first storyline poses no real threat to the core Avengers, because they’re all fine and unchanged in Uncanny Avengers and their own books; we know that the world isn’t too affected by Ex Nihilo’s evolution bombs, because everything seems just fine and dandy in Daredevil and Amazing Spider-Man, and so on.

I’m not sure what the answer to this problem is. Not caring seems like the most appropriate one (After all, who really believed that anything would happen to the big name character at Marvel, especially when their own books have just been relaunched?), but nonetheless, surely there can be some different approach taken – a minimizing of characters appearing in the same books, perhaps, or a lowering of the stakes in each adventure? – that would cut down on the fact that the dramatic tension in Marvel’s titles (and DC’s too, although I feel as if Marvel is a slightly worse offender right now, but that may just be my own boredom with a lot of the DC output currently coming through) is constantly and consistently being undone by Marvel’s own comic books.

11 Responses to “The Problem With Continuity (A Rant)”
  1. Corey (Ottawa) Says:

    well, its not as if folks in NYC spend a lot of time talking about Regina, Saskatchewan anyways (population 210k)…and I expect an evolution bomb wouldn’t change that much.

    They might have noticed Perth though….(pop 1.8 M)

  2. Jim H. Says:

    Maybe the answer is just, you know, enjoying each story for itself and not sweating this stuff so much.

  3. Mo Walker Says:

    I personally treat Marvel’s continuity synching problem the same way Grant Morrison dealt with it during JLA, I just roll with the punches. Clearly Remender did not worry about it during his Uncanny X-Force run. If Remender did, it was not evident in the issues. Ultimately it is up to the editors to make sure their product is not only cohesive, but lines-up with the rest of Marvel’s continuity. The recap page and editorial boxes could easily resolve this problem.

  4. M. Sanchez Says:

    I somewhat understand the continuity conundrum when you’re reading multiple books each month. But for those of us who just read a couple titles — or for those who read trades down the road — what happens in another book in that same release span has little to no influence on that reading experience. When I read the trade of the Hickman/Opena Avengers in several months, the appearance of characters in Uncanny Avengers, Spider-Man or any other title have no bearing on my reading enjoyment or understanding of the Avengers story.

    I just read a trade of Simonson/Adams fantastic four from the early 90s, with Hulk, Wolverine, Ghost Rider and Spidey filling in. I don’t know or care what any of those characters were doing in other titles at the time. It didn’t impact the story at hand.

  5. Meh Says:

    ” I feel as if Marvel is a slightly worse offender right now”

    Seriously after the confusion born out of the New 52 reboot ? come on now …

    “Clearly Remender did not worry about it during his Uncanny X-Force run.”

    Dunno , but at least his changes , especially the new ecosystem born out Archangel’s chaotic plans were addressed and referenced

  6. Logan Says:

    Usually I’m someone who notices stuff like this but with Marvel Now! I’ve been enjoying the stories so much I didn’t really notice till now. I think the reason why continuity headaches are less obvious in Marvel books as opposed to DC books (in my opinion) is because continuity isn’t being advertised as a reason to read the latest books. How many DC solicitations talk about the New 52 appearance of an older character? Immediately this leads to a contrast and comparison with the character’s former appearances which leads to headaches. Or the whole Tim Drake Teen Titans zero issue, was there any reason to read it other than to figure out what the heck was up with DC continuity since Batman was unaffected? Marvel Now! has been focusing on creators and stories and letting the rest of us deal with the less exciting and less entertaining things like continuity.

  7. Domonique Derr Says:

    This is a good posting, I was wondering if I could use this write-up on my website, I will link it back to your website though.

  8. Ryan Says:

    “I just read a trade of Simonson/Adams fantastic four from the early 90s, with Hulk, Wolverine, Ghost Rider and Spidey filling in. I don’t know or care what any of those characters were doing in other titles at the time. It didn’t impact the story at hand.”

    Really? Remind me what color the Hulk is in that story. ;)

  9. Yuko Scoggins Says:

    Great article you’ve written, is this your first website blog or have you been doing this a while?

  10. Stephen Wacker Says:

    The premise is in error:
    Daredevil 21 takes place after ASM 697

    SW

  11. Meh Says:

    Wow this is getting ridiculous and akin to beating a dead horse . YOu’ve made your point already in that particular blog section , but now it’s repeated twice in the front page among actual Newsarama articles ?

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