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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;I Felt Like They Wanted an Illustrator Not a Creator&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/12/14/i-felt-like-they-wanted-an-illustrator-not-a-creator/comment-page-1/#comment-780865</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 16:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, T, we&#039;re just going to have to agree to disagree. Oh well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, T, we&#8217;re just going to have to agree to disagree. Oh well!</p>
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		<title>By: T.</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/12/14/i-felt-like-they-wanted-an-illustrator-not-a-creator/comment-page-1/#comment-780506</link>
		<dc:creator>T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 04:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Sure, you’re totally right, that is a “little melancholy”, but only if you take those statements out of context with what was said immediately after, as Graeme did.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, it&#039;s still reaching because it&#039;s perfectly plausible that someone could find those statements &quot;a little melancholy&quot; even WITH the context of the following paragraph provided. I certainly did, if you want one example.

I&#039;ll even take it one step further and say that the following paragraph you added even on its own I found a little melancholy, because it conveyed to me a wistful nostalgia for better days.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Who are we (Graeme included) to take him and his words at anything other than face value?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s exactly what I&#039;m doing. Just because someone remarks they don&#039;t want something to sound melancholy doesn&#039;t mean that that automatically makes it stops it from sounding melancholy, nor does it mean that a listener who says they still gets a melancholy vibe from the remarks is lying or disingenuous. Since I found it melancholy even with the added paragraph, I&#039;m going to take Graeme at face value and believe that he found it melancholy even with the added paragraph as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sure, you’re totally right, that is a “little melancholy”, but only if you take those statements out of context with what was said immediately after, as Graeme did.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, it&#8217;s still reaching because it&#8217;s perfectly plausible that someone could find those statements &#8220;a little melancholy&#8221; even WITH the context of the following paragraph provided. I certainly did, if you want one example.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll even take it one step further and say that the following paragraph you added even on its own I found a little melancholy, because it conveyed to me a wistful nostalgia for better days.</p>
<blockquote><p>Who are we (Graeme included) to take him and his words at anything other than face value?</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s exactly what I&#8217;m doing. Just because someone remarks they don&#8217;t want something to sound melancholy doesn&#8217;t mean that that automatically makes it stops it from sounding melancholy, nor does it mean that a listener who says they still gets a melancholy vibe from the remarks is lying or disingenuous. Since I found it melancholy even with the added paragraph, I&#8217;m going to take Graeme at face value and believe that he found it melancholy even with the added paragraph as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/12/14/i-felt-like-they-wanted-an-illustrator-not-a-creator/comment-page-1/#comment-780430</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 01:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Reaching&quot;, T? Sure, you&#039;re totally right, that is a &quot;little melancholy&quot;, but only if you take those statements out of context with what was said immediately after, as Graeme did. Because &quot;light, frothy and pleasant&quot; doesn&#039;t really equate to &quot;a little melancholy&quot;. Who are we (Graeme included) to take him and his words at anything other than face value?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Reaching&#8221;, T? Sure, you&#8217;re totally right, that is a &#8220;little melancholy&#8221;, but only if you take those statements out of context with what was said immediately after, as Graeme did. Because &#8220;light, frothy and pleasant&#8221; doesn&#8217;t really equate to &#8220;a little melancholy&#8221;. Who are we (Graeme included) to take him and his words at anything other than face value?</p>
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		<title>By: T.</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/12/14/i-felt-like-they-wanted-an-illustrator-not-a-creator/comment-page-1/#comment-780378</link>
		<dc:creator>T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 23:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But one could still arguably make the point that despite the added paragraph, the overall feeling is still a &quot;little melancholy.&quot; The analogy of reaching a point where you no longer know anyone at a party anymore and no one is laughing at your jokes anymore and you feel like you need to just slink out and call yourself a cab does leave a bit of a melancholy impression even with the added disclaimer that he enjoyed his time there overall. I think you&#039;re really reaching here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But one could still arguably make the point that despite the added paragraph, the overall feeling is still a &#8220;little melancholy.&#8221; The analogy of reaching a point where you no longer know anyone at a party anymore and no one is laughing at your jokes anymore and you feel like you need to just slink out and call yourself a cab does leave a bit of a melancholy impression even with the added disclaimer that he enjoyed his time there overall. I think you&#8217;re really reaching here.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/12/14/i-felt-like-they-wanted-an-illustrator-not-a-creator/comment-page-1/#comment-780335</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh kids, settle down. T, there&#039;s no &quot;gotcha&quot; involved. Graeme makes a point to call it &quot;melancholy&quot; - Hitch appears to say the opposite. &quot;Light&quot; and &quot;pleasant&quot; don&#039;t imply melancholy to me. It&#039;s misleading. Graeme may personally feel sad about the situation, but he appears to indicate that that is how Hitch feels and I think the added content changes things immensely, actually. 

If Graeme is going to cut and paste and interview while linking to it, the least he can do is frame it up properly. 


And Kyle, bad news, bud. Nobody is going to buy your books for Christmas. Maybe next year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh kids, settle down. T, there&#8217;s no &#8220;gotcha&#8221; involved. Graeme makes a point to call it &#8220;melancholy&#8221; &#8211; Hitch appears to say the opposite. &#8220;Light&#8221; and &#8220;pleasant&#8221; don&#8217;t imply melancholy to me. It&#8217;s misleading. Graeme may personally feel sad about the situation, but he appears to indicate that that is how Hitch feels and I think the added content changes things immensely, actually. </p>
<p>If Graeme is going to cut and paste and interview while linking to it, the least he can do is frame it up properly. </p>
<p>And Kyle, bad news, bud. Nobody is going to buy your books for Christmas. Maybe next year!</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Garret</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/12/14/i-felt-like-they-wanted-an-illustrator-not-a-creator/comment-page-1/#comment-780271</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Garret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@T Didn&#039;t you know? Graeme stole Tyler&#039;s girl, got him fired, and killed his dog. It&#039;s tragic, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@T Didn&#8217;t you know? Graeme stole Tyler&#8217;s girl, got him fired, and killed his dog. It&#8217;s tragic, really.</p>
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		<title>By: T.</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/12/14/i-felt-like-they-wanted-an-illustrator-not-a-creator/comment-page-1/#comment-780223</link>
		<dc:creator>T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyler, HOW exactly is your additional quoted paragraph some sort of major &quot;gotcha&quot; against Graeme? The added context it provides doesn&#039;t change Graeme&#039;s point at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler, HOW exactly is your additional quoted paragraph some sort of major &#8220;gotcha&#8221; against Graeme? The added context it provides doesn&#8217;t change Graeme&#8217;s point at all.</p>
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		<title>By: benwahbob</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/12/14/i-felt-like-they-wanted-an-illustrator-not-a-creator/comment-page-1/#comment-780148</link>
		<dc:creator>benwahbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hitch is a douchebag. No one that has worked with him wants to work with him again.&quot;
Which explains DC wanting to snatch him up, Mark Millar WANTING TO WORK WITH HIM and saying so on Twitter CONSTANTLY, Warren Ellis, the same...
I wish people wouldn&#039;t say things without backing it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hitch is a douchebag. No one that has worked with him wants to work with him again.&#8221;<br />
Which explains DC wanting to snatch him up, Mark Millar WANTING TO WORK WITH HIM and saying so on Twitter CONSTANTLY, Warren Ellis, the same&#8230;<br />
I wish people wouldn&#8217;t say things without backing it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim O'Neil</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/12/14/i-felt-like-they-wanted-an-illustrator-not-a-creator/comment-page-1/#comment-778674</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim O'Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t a surprise at all. With a very few exceptions (Alan Davis springs to mind) Marvel is very ruthless when it comes to wanting their creators to be as prolific as possible in whatever field they want. Both Bendis and Hickman have expressed occasional (if brief) regret over the fact that Marvel has no interest in ever having them draw anything, because it&#039;s just not efficient - and likewise, when was the last time you ever saw a Marvle artist break out into writing? Chris Bachalo wrote a short story in A+X last month. I think Davis gets away with it because he&#039;s &quot;grandfathered&quot; in - but we haven&#039;t even seen Simonson writing anything for Marvel since he came back last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t a surprise at all. With a very few exceptions (Alan Davis springs to mind) Marvel is very ruthless when it comes to wanting their creators to be as prolific as possible in whatever field they want. Both Bendis and Hickman have expressed occasional (if brief) regret over the fact that Marvel has no interest in ever having them draw anything, because it&#8217;s just not efficient &#8211; and likewise, when was the last time you ever saw a Marvle artist break out into writing? Chris Bachalo wrote a short story in A+X last month. I think Davis gets away with it because he&#8217;s &#8220;grandfathered&#8221; in &#8211; but we haven&#8217;t even seen Simonson writing anything for Marvel since he came back last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hitch is a douchebag. No one that has worked with him wants to work with him again.</description>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 21:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don&#039;t want any of this to sound anything other than light, frothy and pleasant though. There&#039;s no regret or bitterness, far from it. There&#039;s always things one could have done differently or better but I had an amazing time and got play with a lot of company toys, and it made my career in the best way possible. Now in going forward I feel like I have some incredible opportunities I might otherwise not have had.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t want any of this to sound anything other than light, frothy and pleasant though. There&#8217;s no regret or bitterness, far from it. There&#8217;s always things one could have done differently or better but I had an amazing time and got play with a lot of company toys, and it made my career in the best way possible. Now in going forward I feel like I have some incredible opportunities I might otherwise not have had.&#8221;</p>
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