Comments on: Random Thought on ALL-NEW X-MEN, UNCANNY AVENGERS and the “NOW!”ness of Marvel

By: RF

RF — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:20:05 +0000

“Basically, Remender has given him a decades-long time gap similar to the one built in to Captain America’s origin story – there’s nothing more to it than that.”

Actually, the old Red Skull already had that parallel with Cap. He was trapped under some rubble with some experimental super-gas or something between WWII and the modern age.

I’m definitely seeing a nap pattern here. Marvel NAP!

By: moose n squirrel

moose n squirrel — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:15:27 +0000

I didn’t see anything special about the frozen-Red-Skull thing other than a retcon to explain how the Red Skull is still alive in 2012. Basically, Remender has given him a decades-long time gap similar to the one built in to Captain America’s origin story – there’s nothing more to it than that.

By: Matt Spatola

Matt Spatola — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:31:21 +0000

Once again Graeme blows it. Did he actually read these comics?

By: RF

RF — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:52:36 +0000

“That, from the character’s perspective, is time travel.”

I suppose that’s true. I often feel, after a long and satisfying sleep, as if the intervening hours had not occurred at all. In a sense I’m traveling through time every night between around midnight and 7am. Or it’s like that time I time traveled through the middle third of Dark Knight Rises.

So I guess what you’re saying is that the Marvel NOW! event will be about naps?

By: toben

toben — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 07:03:01 +0000

Let’s see if this comment actually gets posted, the majority of mine never are.

I’m actually going to stand up for Graeme here.
The return of Red Skull is a sort of time travel. Especially from that character’s perspective. This is a clone of a personality that was never really awakened until 70 odd years after its birth.
The mind of Red Skull itself is going over a VERY large gap, and would have no recollection of ANY of the past deeds that Herr Schmidt has done for the past 50 odd years in comics.

That, from the character’s perspective, is time travel.

Also, is anyone else glad that Jono is back in Legacy 2?

By: Robert

Robert — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 07:02:15 +0000

Huh?

By: Ziggy

Ziggy — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:56:54 +0000

There’s no reason for it to connect. Skull’s return isn’t time travel and Graeme very obviously thinks it is. It’s the entire premise of his post, and if he doesn’t think Skull’s return is time travel his post otherwise makes no sense.

By: Molnek

Molnek — Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:59:06 +0000

I’m aware of the somewhat admission of difference, but this is all like saying “One has a return flight ticket, the other snuck on train and isn’t going to leave. Perhaps these two things connect and we get an event about airplanes.”

By: RF

RF — Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:55:43 +0000

Molnek, our blogger friend seems to admit that with this: “Even though the appearance of both the original X-Men and the Red Skull didn’t end up in Marvel NOW!’s now through similar methods…”

However, I still don’t really get what’s so striking about this. In the comics I read, old characters are constantly re-emerging from the past/death/the body of an imaginary talking bird.

By: Molnek

Molnek — Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:19:43 +0000

The Red Skull’s return isn’t time travel he was cloned then frozen.