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	<title>Comments on: What Went Wrong?</title>
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		<title>By: Logan</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/11/09/what-went-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-765838</link>
		<dc:creator>Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 03:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Used to work in a library and as the resident comic expert I had tons of people coming to me for help on the best place to jump on to Avengers and X-Men and Batman and others. Could be that people would rather get things for free then pay $20-$25 for something that they aren&#039;t sure they&#039;ll like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Used to work in a library and as the resident comic expert I had tons of people coming to me for help on the best place to jump on to Avengers and X-Men and Batman and others. Could be that people would rather get things for free then pay $20-$25 for something that they aren&#8217;t sure they&#8217;ll like.</p>
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		<title>By: zanocriminal</title>
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		<dc:creator>zanocriminal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 01:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever I read this stuff, I&#039;m lead to believe my store is some kind of weird oasis of comics buyers. I get people in here all the time who want to &quot;finally make the leap&quot; after being fans of the movies. Maybe because my store is also a record store??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I read this stuff, I&#8217;m lead to believe my store is some kind of weird oasis of comics buyers. I get people in here all the time who want to &#8220;finally make the leap&#8221; after being fans of the movies. Maybe because my store is also a record store??</p>
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		<title>By: Ziggy</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/11/09/what-went-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-765809</link>
		<dc:creator>Ziggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 22:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But a property&#039;s multimedia potential isn&#039;t whats at question here. Nor am I talking about &quot;legitimizing&quot; the medium with book store sales (though I realize book store sales is what the post was initially about).

I&#039;m talking about definitive and sustained increase in sales of graphic novels, and even monthly comics, whether it be in books stores or comic shops, feeding off a mainstream success like a movie or TV show. 

The lack of a clear destination for curious new readers for pretty much any Marvel property is the reason they don&#039;t see a bump in readers from the success of their movies. Batman ALWAYS sees a bump when his movies come out because Year One, DKR, Long Halloween and Hush are clear easy choices. Walking Dead sees a bump in books stores and comic shops, in both trades and single issues. Because the only choice the reader has to make is do they want their Volume One to have 6, 12, or 48 chapters in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But a property&#8217;s multimedia potential isn&#8217;t whats at question here. Nor am I talking about &#8220;legitimizing&#8221; the medium with book store sales (though I realize book store sales is what the post was initially about).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m talking about definitive and sustained increase in sales of graphic novels, and even monthly comics, whether it be in books stores or comic shops, feeding off a mainstream success like a movie or TV show. </p>
<p>The lack of a clear destination for curious new readers for pretty much any Marvel property is the reason they don&#8217;t see a bump in readers from the success of their movies. Batman ALWAYS sees a bump when his movies come out because Year One, DKR, Long Halloween and Hush are clear easy choices. Walking Dead sees a bump in books stores and comic shops, in both trades and single issues. Because the only choice the reader has to make is do they want their Volume One to have 6, 12, or 48 chapters in it.</p>
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		<title>By: RF</title>
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		<dc:creator>RF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 21:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ziggy!

But that&#039;s also why, as much money as WALKING DEAD is able to make for AMC and Image and Kirkman, it will never be as profitable, ultimately, as anything from Marvel. It is precisely the breadth and width of these properties that make them malleable enough to succeed in the mainstream marketplace. There&#039;s no &quot;starting point&quot; because it is a virtually infinite thing, backwards, forwards, sideways, and slantwise.

I&#039;m sure Marvel wishes they were selling more AVENGERS books in proper bookstores, but how are those WALKING DEAD action figures doing at Target? Will we have Rick turning up in cartoons, movies, or cereal boxes in twenty years?

It&#039;s this strange thing we as fans do to ourselves, thinking that Barnes and Noble sales will redeem our hobby. I&#039;ve begun to feel that it&#039;s ok that comics are a niche market and rich soil for intellectual property.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ziggy!</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s also why, as much money as WALKING DEAD is able to make for AMC and Image and Kirkman, it will never be as profitable, ultimately, as anything from Marvel. It is precisely the breadth and width of these properties that make them malleable enough to succeed in the mainstream marketplace. There&#8217;s no &#8220;starting point&#8221; because it is a virtually infinite thing, backwards, forwards, sideways, and slantwise.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Marvel wishes they were selling more AVENGERS books in proper bookstores, but how are those WALKING DEAD action figures doing at Target? Will we have Rick turning up in cartoons, movies, or cereal boxes in twenty years?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s this strange thing we as fans do to ourselves, thinking that Barnes and Noble sales will redeem our hobby. I&#8217;ve begun to feel that it&#8217;s ok that comics are a niche market and rich soil for intellectual property.</p>
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		<title>By: Ziggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ziggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 21:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The answer is always the same, but it&#039;s not that it doesn&#039;t translate.

The answer is 8 books with &quot;X-Men&quot; in the title. 7 books with &quot;Avengers&quot; in the title. No seminal stand alone tale to point to. No clear starting point.

There is no Walking Dead Vol. 1, or Batman Year One, or Dark Knight Returns, or Watchmen. 

The Walking Dead has a clear sustained increase in readership thanks to the success of the show. The reason, unlike any Marvel property, is there&#039;s a plain and clear book to pick up when you go into a book store (Vol. 1), and a clear progression of books to move on to when you&#039;re done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The answer is always the same, but it&#8217;s not that it doesn&#8217;t translate.</p>
<p>The answer is 8 books with &#8220;X-Men&#8221; in the title. 7 books with &#8220;Avengers&#8221; in the title. No seminal stand alone tale to point to. No clear starting point.</p>
<p>There is no Walking Dead Vol. 1, or Batman Year One, or Dark Knight Returns, or Watchmen. </p>
<p>The Walking Dead has a clear sustained increase in readership thanks to the success of the show. The reason, unlike any Marvel property, is there&#8217;s a plain and clear book to pick up when you go into a book store (Vol. 1), and a clear progression of books to move on to when you&#8217;re done.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Garret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle Garret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 21:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jane A He&#039;s wondering why NO Avengers books were on the list, not just books about the movie.

In other words, with the Avengers being seen by millions upon millions of people, why was Marvel unable to turn those viewers into buyers of graphic novels (or collections) at bookstores?

We ask this question after every big movie and the answer is always the same: movies don&#039;t translate into sustainable books sales.  It looks like a spike the month the movie is released is the best we generally get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jane A He&#8217;s wondering why NO Avengers books were on the list, not just books about the movie.</p>
<p>In other words, with the Avengers being seen by millions upon millions of people, why was Marvel unable to turn those viewers into buyers of graphic novels (or collections) at bookstores?</p>
<p>We ask this question after every big movie and the answer is always the same: movies don&#8217;t translate into sustainable books sales.  It looks like a spike the month the movie is released is the best we generally get.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 20:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe people don&#039;t care about boring and heavy guide books?

The Avengers movie was also far too light to work in book form. It was a popcorn summer blockbuster. Does not really make for a compelling reading experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe people don&#8217;t care about boring and heavy guide books?</p>
<p>The Avengers movie was also far too light to work in book form. It was a popcorn summer blockbuster. Does not really make for a compelling reading experience.</p>
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