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Random Thoughts on The Possibility of Eight Ongoing Comics Called X-MEN

November 2nd, 2012
Author Graeme McMillan

Wait, what I can’t even.

Yes, we’re apparently getting a new Uncanny X-Men book in February to accompany Uncanny Avengers and Uncanny X-Force. Putting aside the fact that now we’re apparently having franchises built around adjectives (Please, please, someone at another publisher add “Uncanny” to titles of your series come February; maybe you’ll be able to get some shared heat, somehow – Although I guess they’ve done this since 2000 with the Ultimate line), I am nonetheless somehow surprised that we’re seeing a further expansion of the X-Men line.

I don’t know why I’m surprised; over the last ten years, we’ve seen the number of ongoing series called Avengers go from one to seven (Avengers, New Avengers, Secret Avengers, Uncanny Avengers, Avengers Arena, Young Avengers and Avengers Assemble), after all, and there were already multiple titles with X-Men in the title before that started. But now – or NOW!, perhaps – it looks as if we’re going to have All-New X-Men, Wolverine and The X-Men, X-Men Legacy, Astonishing X-Men, X-Treme X-Men, X-Men and Uncanny X-Men on a regular basis in the Marvel Universe alone, alongside Ultimate X-Men in the Ultimate line. Okay, sure; the adjectiveless book may be ending – the most recent solicits said “End of An Era!” which normally heralds that kind of conclusion, but it didn’t say “Final Issue” – and X-Treme‘s sales suggest that it may not be long for this world, but still: That’s an amazing number of comics with “X-Men” in the title, especially if you consider that the X-Men franchise extends far, far beyond that to include X-Factor, the two X-Force titles, the Wolverine books and Gambit. Of course, both the Avengers and X-Men franchises can lay equal claim to A+X.

I’m not sure what to make of the juggernaut tendencies of both franchises. Theoretically, there are more than enough X-Men and Avengers to be spread amongst these titles to make each one its own thing with its own cast, but that’s not really what’s happening. Think of how many of the above titles will feature Wolverine, for example, and find yourself wondering whether or not the franchises are being stretched towards breaking point.

It’s not just Marvel that does this, of course; DC has a ridiculous number of Batman monthlies, between Batman, Batman and Robin, Detective Comics, Batman: The Dark Knight and Batman Incorporated and seems determined to turn Justice League into a viable, multi-book franchise with Justice League Dark and the upcoming Justice League of America, both of which seem to me as if it’s pushing at least one book too many in terms of expansion. But even Batman looks lazy compared with seven Avengers or eight X-Men titles, especially given that both of those lines have books that are officially twice-monthly in addition to other books that will ship more than 12 issues a year, albeit on an irregular basis.

In what I laughingly refer to as my “spare time,” I’m reading Desperate Networks, Bill Carter’s book about US broadcast television in the mid-2000s, and there’s a part in there where newly-installed NBC boss Jeff Zucker makes the case for “super-sizing” Friends and Will and Grace by telling doubtful execs “As a fan, I’d love to see more of these shows, so let’s just make them longer!” It feels as if there’s a similar mentality to Marvel and, to a lesser extent, DC. “You like these comics? We’ll just give you more and more and more of them, and you’ll like those even more because there’s more!” which… doesn’t really follow. Comic books – like television shows, like any form of entertainment – aren’t generic, easily-scalable product to the fans who buy them; the alchemy that makes a comic fun to a reader isn’t something that can be easily replicated or expanded simply by doing it more frequently (Hell, sometimes it can’t be replicated by the same people who did it the first time; how many times have you read a comic by a creative team who once made you excited only to find that the magic was gone?). You can have too much of a good thing, by oversaturating the demand for it and removing the rarity and anticipation that made it so special in the first place, or by overworking those responsible so quality starts to slip in favor of meeting increased deadlines.

All of which is to say: Eight comics called X-Men seems like a lot, even for the most ardent X-Men fan.

Now, watch as Uncanny turns out to be a tease for an entirely different book altogether…

12 Responses to “Random Thoughts on The Possibility of Eight Ongoing Comics Called X-MEN”
  1. Jane A Says:

    Easy solution for me.

    I just skips all books with Wolverine in them. Not much left after that!

  2. Tyler Says:

    The worst part about that many books is how they force you to buy them all. I hate it when i go to my LCS and there’s Nick Lowe, brandishing a gun, telling me he’ll do me Soprano’s style if I don’t pick up Astonishing X-Men. It’s just awful. I say, “Nick, my life isn’t adversely affected if I only buy the books I like, and the fact that the other ones exist are completely inconsequential to me!” But he just cocks the hammer back and aims the gun at my temple.

    There’s a few different brand of Oreo’s out now, too. Peanut butter, chocolate dipped, chewy cookies, vanilla cookies with chocolate creme, mint Oreo’s, mini Oreo’s, double stuffed, and regular. I don’t like Oreo’s. I’m a Nutter Butter man. But every time I see all those Oreo’s I lose it, ya know? I mean I really just go red and run to the Internet as fast as I can and just EMOTE. I mean, seriously. I can’t even. Really. Just…ugh. Like, come on. Wait, wha? And even though I hate Oreo’s, I make sure to spend a lot of time talking about them online. Cause COMICSINTERNETFANZZZ!!!

  3. Bizzle Says:

    @Tyler you analogy is bad and you should feel bad.

  4. Tyler Says:

    Bizzle, It’s actually spot on, thanks. And I never feel bad, even when people who call themselves Bizzle quote Futurama to try and make me look stupid.

  5. RF Says:

    You forgot DARK AVENGERS.

  6. Sallyp Says:

    It is starting to get a wee bit ridiculous. Actually “starting” is being generous, it IS ridiculous! I suppose that since every single character at Marvel has at one point or another been an Avenger, they could simply slap an “Avengers” title on ALL of the books. Pretty much the same thing for the Justice League.

  7. Z-Ram Says:

    Yeah, seriously. I mean does DC inundate its universe with Batman comics? Oh, wait…

    Damn, just write good comics and let people figure out what they want to buy. Oh by the way, no one’s forcing anyone to buy anything, and don’t try to convince yourself otherwise. Believe me, you’ll live if you don’t find out why Cable has an eyepatch now.

  8. Logan Says:

    Let me see if I understand this right: The blog post right before this one talked about how Marvel wasn’t marketing Marvel NOW! properly but this post is complaining that Marvel is marketing a bunch of X-Men and Avengers books since thats what sells? Isn’t that what a business is supposed to do? If consumers are more likely to buy something with either X-Men or Avengers in the title then why wouldn’t you put it on as many books as possible?

  9. Tyler Says:

    Logan – sssshhh. Logic doesn’t apply here. Plus Bizzle might get angry!

  10. Kyle Says:

    @Logan He’s not complaining about Marvel marketing a bunch of X-Men and Avengers books so much as wondering what the saturation point for such titles is.

    It’s an issue of the long term health of the industry — you can only count on gouging your customer base for so long until they stop buying your books. Both Marvel and DC are putting all their eggs into just a few baskets.

    That said, it’s ultimately irrelevant at this point, as the characters at Marvel and DC are IPs for licensing and other media. The comics are an after thought for Warner Brothers and Disney.

    That doesn’t speak highly for the health of the medium, though, when the two largest publishers are not only just publishing superhero comics (or 90%), but when the majority of even those are all the same.

  11. Tyler Says:

    Kyle – i take issue with pretty much everything you just said to Logan.

    First, if you think naming a book X-Men or Avengers isn’t part of a marketing strategy, then you’re just naive. Why do you think X-Treme X-Men isn’t called eXiles even though they have a similar concept?

    Gouging your customer base? How so? How is including the name X-Men on x-related books gouging anybody? You are aware that nobody is forced to buy any comic books, right? Is there a bully who beats you up if you don’t buy all the X-Men books? A title including the name x-men will likely do better (look at generation hope) but, as Graeme himself points out, even books that have the name in their titles struggle (like Xtreme Xmen).

    I don’t know what you’re talking about with Disney and WB, that’s irrelevant to this discussion.

    And as to your comment regarding the health of the industry, I don’t see why the big two publishing super hero books is a bad thing. I’m not sure if you’ve seen sales estimates, but they sell very well. Since these are companies who want to make money, that’s what they publish. And, using the x-books as the example, these aren’t “all the same”, as you say. If you read the x-titles, you can easily see that each of them occupy a different niche in the large x-world.

    I get it, you’re probably friends or partners with Graeme, but refuting people who critique his posts with inferred information and subjective facts isn’t the way to go.

  12. CT Says:

    If one is tired of the “X’s and A’s”, why not try some of the Dynamite offerings? The Shadow, The Spider, and Peter Cannon Thunderbolt have replaced my former standard comics fare.

    Then there’s Dan the Unharmable, Dark Horse Presents, Hero Worship, Saga, Epic Kill, Mind the Gap, and the ever interesting Invincible. I even tried Jimmy Palmiotti and Justin Gray’s creator owned anthology series. (Sorry guys but I grew tired of Jonah Hex traipsing around Gotham City with Dr. Arkham. I was with you at the outset and I stayed until issue 13 but now I’m done.)

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