Update 2, Aug. 23: Rob Liefeld’s ongoing Twitter discussion of his departure from DC has continued into day two, with the writer/artist stating, “My greatest triumph at DC was getting an inept editor fired. From that point on that I had put a target on me. Next guy wanted to show me.”
Presumably the “next guy” is DC editor Brian Smith, who in two tweets Wednesday night, Liefeld wrote, “Next time a little DC editor wants to show me how big his little pecker is—oh, right that’s over for good. And that little pecker belongs to @yourpalSmitty let’s give him a round of applause. He’s a big dick now!!” Batgirl writer Gail Simone subsequently defended Smith on her own Twitter account, saying, “I’ve said it a hundred times, but @yourpalsmitty is one of the best editors I have ever worked with, anywhere, period.”
Still, Liefeld is presenting his experience working with DC as part of The New 52 as an overall positive experience, tweeting, “DC52 was as good a roller coaster as I’ve ever experienced. Can’t NOT share,” and, last night, “And, I loved all the work I did there regardless of the struggle. I think the DC 52 was/is positive for comics.”
Update: Rob Liefeld has continued to use Twitter to discuss his reasons for leaving DC, writing, “I had at least 20 editorial battles and won 80% but those battles wear you down.” In expressing more frustration with DC’s editorial staff, he wrote, “Freelancers, tell your editor he works for you, not the other way around. Routinely fire them to remind then you call the shots.” In a criticism of publishers recruiting overseas talent, he wrote, in two consecutive tweets, “And where it’s all headed is overseas talent anyways. Why do you think that they fly around doing new talent searches in foreign countries? Don’t mistake this for vitriol— the big two are looking to replace talent with cheaper models, domestic and otherwise.”
Original story: Rob Liefeld has talked about quitting DC before, but it looks like this time it’s for real — and with a firm end date.
On Twitter, the writer/artist stressed that it was his choice, saying he “Officially got off the DC52 treadmill this morning,” and “I believe in what DC is doing, but had to preserve my sanity.” He continued, acknowledging, “This is the 4th time I quit in the last 4 months. This time it will stick.”
Liefeld is currently writing and drawing Deathstroke, and plotting and co-scripting Grifter and The Savage Hawkman. In a Tweet, Liefeld said that September’s “0′s are my last issues,” which would be contrary to what’s been solicited for October and November, with each month listing Liefeld in his current roles on the three books. He disclosed that Scott Clark, who has been illustrating Grifter, will be replacing him on Deathstroke, and that long-time Liefeld associate Marat Mycheals will “continue the work on Grifter.” In further tweets, Liefeld addressed his reasons for leaving, including, “Massive indecision, last minute and I mean LAST minute changes that alter everything. Editor pissing contests,” and, “Last week my editor said ‘ early on we had a lot of indie talent that weren’t used to re-writes and changes..made it hard’. Uh, no, it’s you.”
Liefeld has been involved with The New 52 since its inception, first as the artist (and later writer) of Hawk and Dove, which ended after eight issues. In January, one day after the news of Hawk and Dove‘s cancellation, he was announced as coming on board Deathstroke, Grifter and Hawkman. Keep reading Newsarama for more information on the future of Liefeld’s three books.
August 22nd, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Bye bye Rob. Won’t miss you or your cartoonish 90′s art.
August 22nd, 2012 at 12:35 pm
No, really, this time for SURE!
August 22nd, 2012 at 12:35 pm
When DC can’t even hold on to a hack you know things are bad
August 22nd, 2012 at 12:37 pm
GOOD!!!! I hate his art.
August 22nd, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Thanks god – maybe these titles will have a chance to be good…
August 22nd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
so who will write savage hawkman it was getting good
August 22nd, 2012 at 12:44 pm
hes always sucked dont know why he stillhad a job
August 22nd, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Instead of the predictable piling on Liefeld, let’s think about what this is telling us about DC. There’s mounting evidence that working conditions there are really crappy for creators right now. Yes, DC is doing better in sales, but what have they/are they/will they sacrifice for it? Everything, it seems.
August 22nd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
I respect him, but never liked is writing or drawing, best of luck on your next projects Rob!
August 22nd, 2012 at 12:58 pm
Oh. Thank. God.
But if Captain No-talent leaves, who ever will give us that crap art we’ve come to know, love, and line birdcages with??
August 22nd, 2012 at 12:59 pm
I made the decision when I learned that Morrison is departing Action Comics that I’m done with the new 52. I’ll finish out the Joker arc in Batman, but after that, I’m through. The constant shuffling of creators mixed with generally poor stories and an ill-conceived reboot have pushed me away. I will concentrate on filling in back issues and trades from the post-COIE-pre-Flashpoint era, which is the one I grew up with and the one I most love.
As for Liefeld leaving, sadly, it’s far too late and too little to right the sinking ship. Hopefully, by 2015, we’ll see an editorial jihad at DC and someone will bring back the pre-Flashpoint DCU and the versions of the those characters that have lasted over seventy years.
August 22nd, 2012 at 1:00 pm
sad because the editors feel they have to respond to the constant armchair quarterbacking of online sycophants…. that is probably what is happening…
August 22nd, 2012 at 1:04 pm
I am not one to pile on for the sake of bitching but I tapped out after nine months of reading the New 52. With the exception of Batman and GL families, which weren’t really rebooted, the entire thing has sucked the life out of DC. The forced attempts at new outfits, reboots, characters being drastically taken backwards (Booster Gold for one), nano-technology, sexual references, etc. all added up to a force feeding of something that just wasn’t DC anymore. I really wanted the new 52 to work because I loved when they did the initial Post-Crisis reboot in 1985 but there’s no magic anymore. They ripped characters that were working and rebooted them. They took relationships that were iconic and changed them, just to change them. I still enjoy the DCU but sadly, the closest thing to the tone and fun of it are the Marvel Studios movies. I hope it changes but until I see that it does, they won’t get another penny of my money. I went from spending a few hundred a month on DCU to buying Smallville and that’s it.
August 22nd, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Well said, Mike, I’m with you 100%.
August 22nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Thank goodness. After seeing the ad for his Deathstroke cover, where he has still yet to figure out how hands hold things, or how feet look, I’m fine with him gone.
August 22nd, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Unfortunately, this didn’t happen in time to save Lobo.
August 22nd, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Perhaps they should have gone with “The New 36″ and just given is the REALLY good concepts and creative teams rather than trying to do more diversity than is required. Do we need 52? How many people purchase all 52 titles monthly? Less than 3% of the diehards, if any.
Go with less titles, less pressure, more free creativity and fun for the creators, which we can feel as readers.
I think they should whittle 20-25% of the lower selling titles and put a few of them in another digital-only short story compilation (Adventure Comics) that can be a minor league-style proving ground for young new writers and artists.
August 22nd, 2012 at 1:20 pm
well dc has always been the one to fix what’s not broken.and do away with great characters.look at shade the changing man,the real manhunter -paul kirk,and dr.fate.great heroes,lost writers!but good old rob,i won’t miss you at all!
August 22nd, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Thank goodness he’s going!
And I have to agree with Mike. Everything that made DC such a reach tapestry of awesomeness has been stripped, gutted, horribly repainted and slapped back together with dis-continuity duct tape. Someone needs to jump in a time bubble and stop Zoom and Barry from messing things up in Flashest Night, er, Flashpoint.
August 22nd, 2012 at 1:29 pm
I’m sure this has absolutely nothing to do with how poorly his books are selling.
August 22nd, 2012 at 1:29 pm
It’s a hectic business and there is a lot of pressure especially working for the big boys. Some can handle it and some can’t. I’m sure many of you out there have dead lines and constant last minute changes in your job too. I know I do. DC will obviously carry on. Not every change has been a hit but I for one love most of the New 52. The stories are good and so is the art. There is a little bit for everyone.
August 22nd, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Now if we could just get Dan Dideo to stop writing.
August 22nd, 2012 at 1:47 pm
man what is wrong with that guy? back in the original announcement I was surprised to hear him praising DC for how well they treat their talent and just generally saying nice things about them to keep things civil despite it being rather obvious that they just don’t have any more work for him because everything he touches fails miserably, and now he’s already turned around and started badmouthing them before he’s even out the door. add this to his irreverent insulting of all the talents that have worked on Deadpool in the past and I don’t know how he expects to ever get hired again. though I know that beyond all reason, he totally will get work again someday.
August 22nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm
It’s been a mixed bag. The concept of the new 52 is pretty ill-conceived. I mean, do we need 10 batman books? No. This last Batman and Robin when all four Robins come together to help fight is a nice moment, but the story arc ends very anti-climatically. The whole night of the owls story was good til the end where there’s a dramatic change in cannon that made me want to puke. The point is that expansion is bad, and it’s a diluted product. It’s just like Marvel having a dozen x-titles. Seriously, who can keep up? I can’t imagine that they are making more money this way. They attracted new readers with the reboot, but they’d be KEEPING readers if they were planning stories that were well written.
August 22nd, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Mike… you nailed it right on the head man. I went from roughly 20 something DC titles a month down to five titles by week six of the New 52 (and once Justice League International is cancelled it will be four). I cannot get into it. It’s not the DC Universe.
August 22nd, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Didn’t happen soon enough. This guy epitomizes everything that was wrong with comics in the 90′s. The fact that he hasn’t improved or evolved over the last 20 years is a testament to how poor an artist he is. How he’s continued to get work is beyond comprehension. What’s truly sad is that he’ll probably find work again. There has never been a bigger hack in comics.
August 22nd, 2012 at 1:59 pm
wonder if this means rob will go back and try to work with image on his own creations again or maybe try and go to marvel though will actully believe he is gone from dc when he says he is never going to work with them again and keeps that vow
August 22nd, 2012 at 2:06 pm
I think the frustration of creators at DC right now must be pretty high. Rob leaving only adds to the larger picture of editorial problems that are going on.
I am a believer in the New 52. The restart was pretty well done. But I think certain things weren’t well thought out. The 5 yr timeline never should have been established. Each title should have been allowed to create it’s own timeline of sorts. Batman should have been around far longer prior tot he stablishment of JLA. And Teen Titans history should have been better planned out.
But a lot of books are very strong at the moment: JL Dark, Flash, Aquaman, LSH, Demon Knights (my favorite!), and so forth.
But I fear that too tight of editorial control over creators could do some long term damage.
August 22nd, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Looks like we avoided the New ‘New 52′ where Liefeld’s Image characters get folded into the DCU (smirk)!
August 22nd, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Good Luck, Mr. Rob L. I am not a comics creator, merely a customer. But I am getting ready to hop off the New 52 treadmill myself. It’s too hard to “unlearn what I have learned” when some of its supposedly still intact. Until they change it again. Ugh. Good luck!
August 22nd, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Rob Liefeld will not make or break the New 52. I am impressed he stayed this long.
August 22nd, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Why, oh why, did they let him screw up Lobo before leaving. They should have taken his resignation.
August 22nd, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Hey I give credit where credit is due. He, to my knowledge stayed on schedule working 3 titles. You may not like his art, but that is pretty solid in my book.
August 22nd, 2012 at 2:59 pm
It’s obviously Marvel’s fault.
August 22nd, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Oh thank god. I just dropped Deathstroke. I would have dropped it sooner, but I really LIKE Lobo. Sadly, he botched it art and writing.
Hopefully, they won’t use any more of his covers.
And just to be the voice of opposition.
I LOVE THE NEW 52, and I’ve been reading comics since the 70s.
August 22nd, 2012 at 3:45 pm
While I am kind of at a “meh” stage as a Bat fan in this New 52 I think Rob much like Chuck Dixon has finally realized that the state of DC is a run-a-way freight train and no one REALLY knows what to do next. These creators that have poured their hearts and souls into the last 10-15 years are watching all of their work get sabotaged instead of strengthened.
Even Grant Morrison said they were on a path of insanity and uncertainty. And when a man like that says something like that then there’s a problem.
August 22nd, 2012 at 4:03 pm
It’s more likely that these books are on the cancellation block, Liefeld knows it, and is leaving before he can be there at the end and catch the blame.
The implications and dirt throwing he’s doing? He always does it. It’s NEVER Rob’s fault. Never. Ever.
August 22nd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Just last week, I decided to drop most of the 22-odd New 52 titles I have been buying for a year. I didn’t buy any of the Rob Leifeld titles, but if HE’s dropping them, what does that say about where the new 52 is going and where it SHOULD be going? Maybe they need to have a Bobby-Ewing’s-in-the-shower scene and just go back to the good old days pre’52 and pre-Flashpoint?
August 22nd, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Though DC denied it vehemently before Flashpoint ended, I don’t think they’ve recently stated whether or not the pre-52 universe is still intact.
I’m guessing it still is, and that this is simply another parallel Earth. Maybe even another parallel set of worlds.
Do a six-issue mini that sees the 52 Earth/verse eradicated along with everyone in it, except for Morrison’s Superman.
He’s able to escape annihilation and ends up, in jeans/t-shirt/cape, in the 31st century of the pre-Flashpoint DCU. There, he joins the Legion.
Case closed.
August 22nd, 2012 at 4:17 pm
I sometimes feel like I am the only one liking a lot of the New 52. But Liefield isn’t part of what I like.
August 22nd, 2012 at 4:34 pm
A shame. I’m maybe in the minority of people who actually like Rob Liefeld’s work. AS A WRITER. I’m still in the majority of people who hates his artwork. What I’m saying is, if you could take a look at the recent Hawkman where Rob isn’t doing any art at all, he does a decent job. I dare say he’s ten times better than Tony Daniel who was okay enough in the Batman books, but failed miserably when he tried to make Hawkman a Spawn clone in the New 52.
August 22nd, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Wait a minute.
Have you all forgotten? This is Newsarama. This is “new,” “new,” “new,” “new”-ville. Reboot, reuse, regurgitate, repaint. OUR Generation needs a NEW fix.
Not “news,” as in, information you can use. New, as in, well, we can’t come up with anything, but we gotta reinvigorate our brand, we think, so let’s get all excited when they put seams on Superman!
Now, it seems we were all happy as it turned out with old after all?
Eh.
I met Rob Liefeld, fifteen years ago. He was a mensch. One of the nicest creators that wasn’t named Phil Jimenez or Jill Thompson. Can’t draw. Oh, Lord, he cannot draw.
He’ll land at Marvel. Alongside Jeph Loeb who can’t write.
Everything is as it shouldn’t be, but it’s gonna be anyway.
DC nuked the refrigerated jumping shark when they resurrected Jason Todd. No point b!tch!ng about it all these years later.
August 22nd, 2012 at 5:20 pm
No, Simon DelMonte, I like most of the new 52 and much prefer things now to the pre-Flashpoint days where Superman and Wonder Woman, among others, were in the crapper.
However, I do see the point where there seems to be a lot of editorial-directed changes that leave creators feeling frustrated. The fact is that starting a new continuity is not an easy, linear process especially when so many writers and editors are involved. Even the Marvel Universe had some bad continuity in the beginning — and it was all written by the same person!
If precious continuity is the most important part of your comics reading experience, then I can see why DC’s “last minute changes” can be a turnoff for some fans, but I think overall, the new DCU is more vibrant and more full of new story possibilities than what it replaced, so I definitely don’t want to see the pre-Flashpoint continuity return.
As for Liefeld, I’m sure he’s the nicest guy in the world, but he simply has very little actual talent. I don’t know if I would call him a hack because that implies he doesn’t care about producing a quality product. I think he DOES care and DOES try, but simply is not able to produce anything of originality or of quality. I am glad he’s gone from DC. I’d like to see a great writer take over “Savage Hawkman” because Joe Benett’s art is really spectacular and deserves to be seen by more people.
August 22nd, 2012 at 5:23 pm
Keep the “Talent” happy, DC. Good Job.
(“Talent” used as a job description, not necessarily something Liefield posesses)
August 22nd, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Well, when I complained shortly after the relaunch about losing characters I loved over the last 30 years, I was told to drink the kool-aid. Now months later, with maybe Aquaman being revitalized, and GL and Batman which really didn’t change, the whole New 52 to me is disappointing. I miss the Doom Patrol, Shayera, Wally West, and what happened to the newest Aqualad? I was happy to see Hank Hall brought back before Flashpoint, but the New Teen Titans which at one time was DC’s big book, is gone like it never existed. I will wait for COIE Part II to fix this mess.
August 22nd, 2012 at 6:26 pm
Fine with me.an overrated talent,with no sense of anatomy.Have always disliked his sloppy rushed looking work.As a plotter ,inept is the only word I can come up with.go back to Jeans commercials.
August 22nd, 2012 at 6:36 pm
Ok I’ll admit I didnt get many DC books before the relaunch. However I use to get many of the books for much of the late 90′s early 00′s but was forced to trim the fat. I was excited to see how they were going to re imagine everything, leaving what many of us knew. For new and creative ideas. I stayed with the Batman and Green Lantern titles
And picked up an additional 8 titles. Most started with good stories and art. But after the 0 issues I’ll be dropping all but the Batman and GL titles again. I may stay with the JL title but not sure. I’d rather see them go back to how it was but i know it wont happen. These books do sell. I feel DC just wanted the press to say something in the new and have the fans blog about it. Now the hype is dying and Marvel is doing there version of a non relaunch. And getting the press and blogs. Eventually neither will be readable cause the collectors will say the new stories are killing interest and no one new will want to touch it cause they fell confuse about who they’re reading about.
August 22nd, 2012 at 6:37 pm
A large part of what appears to be editorial heavy-handedness might come from the decision to stay on publishing schedule. 3 books plus his own work was probably a little much for RL and having to meet deadlines month after month might have been too much stress. Add to that the pressure of trying to turn around 3 low selling books and it might be enough to make ones head explode. I give DC a lot of credit for meeting their deadlines line-wide (give or take a week here or there). The rotating creative teams, while sometimes annoying, is not as jarring as some of the mix-and-match teams that Marvel is using. To meet their ridiculous 18 issues a year schedule (which incidentally keeps me from buying their over priced books) on many books they have 3 artists with wildly divergent styles working on one book. You never know if you’ll get the realistic style or the cartoony style from issue to issue.
August 22nd, 2012 at 6:43 pm
That’s fine his art is terrible
August 22nd, 2012 at 6:58 pm
It’s about time Liefeld parted ways with DC. I have to agree with a majority of the group, the man has no real talent to produce anything of value. I met him several years ago in Chicago, and he was tracing charaters in his booth and selling traced copies to the public for $10. That’s a sign of no talent.
As for the editorial staff at DC. I met Dan Didio at C2E2 last year, and if he is like any of the other editorial staff, well, DC has problems. Where do they make their money? On books. Drawn by talent that people do like. If the editorial staff can’t treat them with respect, well, then it is time to leave. I’m sure Rob with slither back to Image and relaunch Youngblood or draw Prophet again. Seems to be the perfect home for him.
As for the chatter about the “New 52″, I have to agree that the current line up of books and what they did to the pre 52 characters is a bad thing. Come on, we grew up with characters who knew each other and had a history. DC seems to be trying to rope in the current readers with a new version. I started reading the new books but have dropped to 6 titles and will probably end them at #12. Sad, but it’s not the same. I agree, bring back the pre 52 universe and stop this non-sense. I hope Marvel doesn’t fall victim to the DC non-sense with their Marvel Now relaunch. I have decided not to par-take in this new round. All I can say is that the independent publishers like IDW, Dynamite & DH are producing the better material over the big two.
August 22nd, 2012 at 7:06 pm
I’m also very concerned about the editorial processes & decision making within DC.
Why did they alienate Greg Rucka?
Why did they let go of Mark Waid?
Why is Gail Simone only writing 1 book?
And they gave this guy 3 x titles? Madness!
This problem has been building momentum for some time.
If DC Editorial don’t focus on commissioning good talent & refuse to adopt editorial best-practice (ie- hire creators who deserve trust & let them do their thing with minimal interference), they could be in for some trouble down the line.
August 22nd, 2012 at 7:10 pm
I’m hoping this is the beginning of a trend. I have a long list of names that include Dan Didio that I would like to see follow in Robs footsteps. I would love to purchase DC Comics again.
August 22nd, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Oh no. If Rob Liefeld leaves where will I find female characters all drawn with the same hairstyle?
August 22nd, 2012 at 8:03 pm
This nothing I mean even before George Prez came out. I believe them more then DC after all lies from them. Editors as linkara once said: If you want to change the book so much then write it yourself. I don’t hate rob’s art as some do. His I can tell what is going on unlike artist like the guy drawing current deadworld book. Good it if awful and I have no idea what is going on half the time.
August 22nd, 2012 at 8:15 pm
I love how Rob thinks the editor works for him. What an idiot. If theres one thoing old Robs good at its quitting. Because not only does he have the artistic sensiblities of a 12 year old but also the attention span and work ethic of one as well.
August 22nd, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Cant say Im sorry. I dont buy his books because the art and plot are equally indecipherable. But even if he was a cross between Shakespear and Da Vinci I wouldnt but his books because I wouldnt want to contribute to feeding his morbidly obese ego.
August 22nd, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Sweet. I loved Deathstroke for the first 8 issues. I’m happy to have a chance to love it again. DC editorial may be messed up, but at least there are some great things coming out of it (or rather, there are some great things not ruined by it), such as Snyder and Lemire’s stuff. I continue to enjoy Batwoman, JLD, Animal Man, Swamp Thing, Batman, Green Lantern, and Suicide Squad. I really hope that Morrison doesn’t leave for good. I’ll cry if he does.
August 22nd, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Shame I can drop a few DC books now, at least 3 of them had either Liefeld plot or art. Time for more Youngblood I guess..
August 22nd, 2012 at 8:55 pm
I have to say, I’m a little surprised that Liefeld actually named names as to why he’s leaving.
Here’s his tweets from a few hours ago:
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robertliefeld @robertliefeld
Next time a little DC editor wants to show me how big his little pecker is—oh, right that’s over for good.
robertliefeld @robertliefeld
And that little pecker belongs to @yourpalSmitty let’s give him a round of applause. He’s a big dick now!!
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That is what we call burning bridges irrevocably. In Liefeld’s case, it’s no big deal, but I do think DC needs to take care with any future editorial heavy-handedness so that they don’t continue to alienate talent.
August 22nd, 2012 at 9:23 pm
While Liefeld may be a shitty artist the fact that so many creators left DC rather abruptly in the early stages of the New 52 suggests that he isn’t the only one that feels this way.
August 22nd, 2012 at 9:56 pm
Dude finally he’s gone! Great move DC, A ROUND OF APPLAUSE for making this guy quit. Especially since he has a big mouth and ego and cannot back it up with solid drawing. He’s below art student level talent and needs to hit an art school and do some serious learning as well as keep his ego and crappy attitude in check.
August 22nd, 2012 at 9:57 pm
“Why did they let go of Mark Waid?”
Not sure about that, but you can bet dollars to doughnuts that as long as Bob Harras is at DC, Waid will not be welcome back there (nor would I expect that Waid would be willing to work under Harras again). After Bob Harras was fired from Marvel, Waid said this:
“Apparently, the fact that Bob was fired for unfair and wrong reasons one September rather than for all the tens of hundreds of RIGHT reasons he’d racked up in the seven years PREVIOUS gave a lot of staffers a sudden change of heart. Amazing. Overnight, they forgot what a two-faced, cowardly liar Bob had been and what crap they’d all had to suffer through because of his shortcomings as a manager. Instead, everyone was lighting candles for Bob. Jesus. You want to know the truth? In my humble =koff= opinion, Bob did as much to help destroy the comic book industry during the 1990s than any other single human being alive. Yes, even more than Gareb. I’d even let Ron Perlman out of Hell before I’d pardon Bob. For years and years and years, the editorial philosophy at Marvel was to make each and every comic book as labyrinthine and confusing as creatively possible. Marvel had the single highest-profile comic book in the Western hemisphere–X-MEN–and Bob did everything imaginable to make it completely incomprehensible and inaccessible to new and/or casual readers. Everything.”
Not that long ago, one of Newsarama’s contributors posted an article wherein he wondered why Waid wasn’t currently doing work for DC and suggested that he ought to. The fact that this well-publicized falling out between Harras and Waid managed to elude his notice utterly baffled me. But that’s Newsarama for you.
August 22nd, 2012 at 10:14 pm
I am giving up before the zeros, so I did last as long as Liefield. Hey DC – Mr. Obvious here. The new art is not better. Telling the same stories again is not better, even if you change a couple of little things and use darker story lines and foul language. Taking favorite characters and histories and flushing them is not better. And now I will do what I should have been doing before, buying books after I already know they are good, instead of ordering books 3 months ahead and hoping for something that is increasingly obvious they are not interested in producing!! And I will keep 90% of my dollars in doing so!!! Rob – Go back to where you were happy and do your own thing. We will buy it if it is good.
August 22nd, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Well I hope you will start doing the art for Youngblood again,not going to trash you good luck back at Image.
August 22nd, 2012 at 11:04 pm
You know what makes me sad? These so called “fans” of Dc comics who are just dropping titles cause things arent “the same”. Well guess what kiddos, thats the point, Dc said this all along and you knew what you were getting into before reading all this. The saddest part of all this is that most of you “fans” arent even waiting till after Trinity War and Third Army which is probably going to more clearly establish the DCNu universe (which is usually DC’s Formula hence all the Crisis titles). It will all be ok though because all the “fans” that do leave will likely be replaced by young adults who like well written and more cohesive continuity between comics. I have been reading comics (Marvel, DC, Image, DD, IDW, etc..) for 21 + years and im sure glad that dc finally rebooted and made things more modern, cut out all the crap universes that was established and cut it down to 2. As far as Liefield leaving good riddance his art was terrible and i didnt feel he did lobo justice and I hope there is time left to turn things around for him. As for Morrison I think his Action comics run is alright at best. Havent really liked his work since his JLA run years ago so good riddance to him as well. I will say tho that i do think that if the editorial staff is that bad and the dead lines are getting that bad on creators then things do need to change. I think there definitely are too many comics out there right now. If we could slim them down to 35 comics I would be ok with that. If creators are feeling overwhelmed then maybe they shouldnt take on so many titles at once. To recap I will say that I feel the DCNu is a step in the right direction creatively and sales show it. The wheels of change are always rolling and somethings deserve a chance to play themselves out.
August 22nd, 2012 at 11:22 pm
I feel pretty bad for saying this but WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! YES!
AWESOME!
Just sayin. I want to read a well done Hawkman and the odds just went WAY UP!
August 22nd, 2012 at 11:50 pm
They should have hired Jim Shooter as EIC under Paul Levitz!
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:35 am
I’d like to say something positive: Rob Liefeld was really good at doing Levis Jeans commercials. He definitely missed his calling there.
Okay that’s enough sunshine. Woot! Rob Liefeld’s gone! Now if only Dan Didio would quit!
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:00 am
Superboy, no one should be a fan of DC Comics–leave that to Newsarama–I am a fan of the characters, of their histories and their stories, built up by hundreds and thousands of interwoven comics. What we are seeing here is what happens when you become a fan of a company–and what happens when it metastasizes, because it has been infiltrated by people who have no respect for anything that has gone before–when they can con and pay talented writers to throw out over 75 years of history and create pod characters, but they know that they can count on thousands of fans who will suck down anything that is thrown before them–and who will walk lock-step and tell everyone “to deal with it.” Truth is, DC may be in some serious trouble, but that may be part of the plan, why else suddenly alienate all of the oldest core of fans? Honestly, there’s more money in movies, toys and television–why waste your time on an outdated artform like comic books anyway?
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:55 am
“You know what makes me sad? These so called “fans” of Dc comics who are just dropping titles cause things arent “the same”.”
Are you reading the comments or are you just reading into them?
August 23rd, 2012 at 5:34 am
Liefeld has had 20 yrs to move forward, with his art, and has not. Most of the good/great artists improve with time (even Perez’s work now is miles ahead of his work in the 80′s. And it was awesome then!)but he refuses to change anything to improve. His anatomy is atrocious! But people continue to buy his work! That’s mind boggling.
As far as the New52 goes, well, I used to pick up 10 DC books a month with a couple side issues here and there. Last year I dropped everything but Justice League, Green Lantern and Legion Of Superheroes. 7 months in, I dropped them all. JL takes place 5 years in the past, while all the other books take place in the present? No one knows what still took place and what didn’t (Blackest Night, Killing Joke, etc…)and the way DiDio responded to fans, at the cons just prior to the reboot, was incredibly rude and unnecessary. It’s almost like DiDio has taken the DCU and turned it into his own personal playground. It couldn’t have been well thought out, because even the writers had to compress story arcs (planned out for the rest of the year) had to stop those arcs within 2 month’s time. So they obviously didn’t even know what was coming. The New52 would have been a good 24 issue limited series. Like a What If…? Or better yet, like DC’s version of the Ultimate line. And the way they keep changing the creative teams so often isn’t a good sign, either. It’s only been a year, and how many have stayed on the books more than 6 months? Not a lot. There’s a lot of interesting concepts, but they aren’t allowed to go anywhere. I love what Geoff Johns had done with GL, but even the New52 GL book was slow and painful. The JL was soooo slow, but I stuck with it until #8. The art in the books I got was great, but it just isn’t enough to sustain a book. I hope DC does something with the New52 (make it more interesting, allow the creators to go wild, make it more coherent, refine what has still happened from the previous DC)to turn it around. Because, from what I hear at my local comic shops and from friends and from online, I don’t see DC staying in business more than another year. This could have been such a cool thing to do, and Didio cocked it up big time.
August 23rd, 2012 at 5:48 am
Best news I heard all day, and probably the best thing to happen to DC in general.
August 23rd, 2012 at 5:49 am
Ok, I have to say thank goodness he is gone. Honestly, I have never been a fan of his. His proportions are all over the place! His heads are too small for the bodies he draws! I’m also not a fan of his writing. I think DC is doing a good job with most of the changes. I miss a lot of the characters that I grew up with (most of the original Titans) but things change. Life is all about change people! You can’t expect things to remain the same as they always are! Everyone likes to trash one of the publishers over the other, but they both do it. How many people were upset with what they did to Spider-Man in ‘Brand New Day’? Yet now it is an amazing book and has had excellent sales.
August 23rd, 2012 at 5:52 am
Let’s not forget this was a guy that drove Marc Silvestri to pull Top Cow out of Image and was kicked out of Image not much longer after that, a company he helped found. No matter how you feel about his abilities, that history kind of warns of somebody who’s hard to work with.
August 23rd, 2012 at 6:44 am
Um, sorry to break it to him, Editors do not work for the freelancers. Freelancers can’t fire people.
You freelance you don’t work for the comapny. The people who work for the company have more say in things.
In Liefelds world the temp employees in my company could fire the bosses.
Once again it sounds like Rob doesn’t get his way and pouts.
August 23rd, 2012 at 8:46 am
I haven’t touch anything Liefeld’s done in the NEW 52! This would have been better news if DC would have kicked Rob out after destroying Hawk & Dove! Besides not growing as an artist since the 90′s, his tweets show he hasn’t gotten any more mature, either.
AND OMG PEOPLE! DC’s NEW 52 helped reinvigorate the entire industry! And as much as Marvel would like to deny it…MARVEL NOW is a direct response to it and from what I can see does a WHOLE LOT of continuity “tweaking”!
I have enjoyed the NEW 52! The characters I love are getting the attention they should! If you don’t like it, don’t read it, and go back and reread all the preFLASHPOINT stuff…or preCRISIS — pick one…COMICS ARE FLUID! GET OVER IT!
August 23rd, 2012 at 9:48 am
I think a lot of you are missing the point. Marvel and DC are outsourcing their penciling and inking work to people outside the US. Sure, there have always been foreign comic book artists but the comic book companies are looking for people who will work cheap.
August 23rd, 2012 at 10:15 am
I still miss the Secret Six. That was an awesome title that I still miss to this day.
August 23rd, 2012 at 10:36 am
My biggest frustration isn’t that they rebooted, but how they did it. At the end Crisis on Infinite Earths, I felt like the Silver Age (and to a degree, the Golden Age) got on last hurrah and went out with a bang. I was ready to say goodbye and experience new stories and interpretations of the characters.
How did the Bronze/Modern age go? Flashpoint. Ugh. It would have been an ok Flash story, but universe changing? No. I would have been happier if they ended things with Blackest Night. I guess we can blame Barry Allen’s mom.
DC is a business and doesn’t care about their characters or fans. Just money. The reboot was designed to get headlines and cash (from new readers.) The characters who didn’t get the full reboot treatment were in books that were making money. Afterall, DC is still making money on the various Lantern Corps merchandise and Batman products.
Hiring Rob Liefeld was a symptom of this. They knew he was polarizing and could get people to look at what was going to be a horrible book (Hawk & Dove.) They moved him to other books not because he had the talent to sell them, but because they wanted the drama of having them be Rob Liefeld books. The fact that we’re all venting about this proves that their strategy might have worked. Luckily, Liefeld pulled himself out of play before more damage could be done.
No one at DC editorial will read this. They just don’t care. I wish they did. I wish I could tell them to undo this, but they won’t until they think undoing it will make more money than keeping it.
But when you’re ready…. I have an idea for a story involving the Spectre, Wally West, and Superboy-Prime undoing the new 52. (“Stop whining Wally…. now YOU know what I went through. Stupid Flash.”)
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:34 am
I’m not a fan of Liefeld, but his comments about DC and Marvel echo my thoughts. The big two haven’t been relevant for the past two decades. The editors at Marvel and DC rely far too much on events; there’s no longer a status quo for their characters — change for the sake of change. In terms of comic books, all their superheroes have been dead to me for years.
August 23rd, 2012 at 12:15 pm
I enjoyed his books. He was put in an untenable position, working on three titles already in trouble. This reboot has been a bust. The books are still disappointing and decompression is even worse. How I long for the days of complaining about six issue arcs. The best of the bunch was Blackhawks which is gone. On the bright side Scott Clark is off Grifter. He was the only reason I was reading it (consider it dropped). His art is amazing and would be a good fit for Catwoman. Bottom line, DC simply does not have enough talent to publish the arbitrary number of 52 comics.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Thank you Lord. I was about to drop Hawkman, now I’ll stick around to see who comes on board. Still won’t touch Grifter or Deathstroke. They need to widdle down the “New 52″ to the “New 35 or 38″. Too many books, watered down talent.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:36 pm
I’m so glad Valiant is back. I can’t stand DC/Marvel anymore these days.
August 23rd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
I too celebrate the return of Valiant. I just finished reading Harbinger 3.
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Wow! Regardless of whether his tweets are true or not, it is totally unprofessional to air business related dirty laundry publicly.
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
His actions right now clearly show what kind of a person you’re dealing with. He’s a prima donna. Everybody has differences of opinion or in this case creative differences. But you have a job to do so you either do it or you move on. But you be professional about it. How many companies want to go out on a limb and have a guy like this working for you? Maybe those “over seas” talents are just more hungry and have an open mind.
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Yet another reason why so many people consider Rob Liefield to be a cancer on the industry. Not only is his art style frozen 20 years in the past, but his writing is as stilted and uninspired as most fanfiction. He’s burned his bridges with Marvel, DC, Image, and has even had his own companies pulled out from under him. I hope he saved his money, because no one in their right mind is going to hire him for anything high-profile ever again…
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Oh, and DC should be careful. Apparently he likes the direction they’re taking, and it’s well known that his approval is generally a kiss of death.
August 23rd, 2012 at 2:33 pm
I think he should stick to creator owned, and I mean just creating, because I think thats what he is good at, creating properties, but leting others handle the writing and drawing, like prophet. You are a great artist Rob, but you writing/drawing belong to another era.
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Thank god Rob has finally decided to stop working for the #2 comic company. He deserves to be back with the #1 Marvel
It pained me to have to buy even one DC comic. Thank god …… No more 
!!!!
August 23rd, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Regardless of whatever craziness is going on in the editorial offices, Liefeld continually spouts off like such a jerk. Not quite Alan Moore levels of obnoxious, but up there. And his work… I mean, I think it’s terrible. If his fans love it, great. But I don’t mourn this at all.
August 23rd, 2012 at 4:24 pm
I know it is cool to hate on Liefeld, but I have never been one for cool. I have always some what enjoyed the mans work, his art not his writing. Sure he is not the best out there, but he did have an excitement to his work, all the 90′s guys did. The art today is great, some very talented people out there, but alot of if feels out of place on certain books. Superheroes are lager then life and should be drawn as such, sure it’s nice to see a more realistic or even independent sort of style from time to time, but too much can draw you out of fantasy that his grown men and women running around in tights beating the snot outta each other. That was something Liefeld was good at, and can still be from time to time.
You may now call me all the names in the book for defending the man you pack of jackals.
August 23rd, 2012 at 5:16 pm
“Freelancers, tell your editor he works for you, not the other way around. Routinely fire them to remind then you call the shots.”
Coming from a freelancer, albeit a non-comic on, this is NOT how it works. You’re an independent contractor. If he doesn’t understand this, one of the most basic facts of freelancing, I’m not exactly surprised he has had such a tumultous relationship with so many editors. I wonder how he feels when he’s the editor and publisher of his comic line?
August 23rd, 2012 at 6:19 pm
@B – Liefeld doesn’t have the vocabulary to spout off like Alan Moore.
@David – Art or no art, the guy is a douche. AND the bag it comes in.
Kevin-J
August 23rd, 2012 at 6:25 pm
Sounds to me like Rob is no different from anyone else who lucked their way into success, and peaked too early – he’s stuck in a bubble where no one can ever tell him he’s wrong, and his ego is beyond the point of being deflated.
August 23rd, 2012 at 7:27 pm
What a terrible human being. If there was ever an epitome of a “Bro” in the comics industry, it’s this hack. I mean, just take a look at that Slade cover. Still using those ridiculous 90s gauntlets. I don’t know if he considers himself the standard for American home-grown talent (which is apparently the only place comic book publishers should look for talent) but maybe they have to go overseas to find artists that know how to draw hands, and feet, and perspective, and detail, and backgrounds — let’s not even talk about the writing aspect. It’s beyond me how these comic publishers allow him to work on …well, anything. Let’s hope he goes reboot ‘AWESOME’ COMICS and busies himself with unending Youngblood #1′s and leaves the rest of the comic-world alone.
And let’s hope to all the gods that Marvel has the common sense not to let this guy anywhere near anything. I wouldn’t even trust him with D-Man.
August 23rd, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Rob Liefeld is a true HACK… What a HORRIBLE artist and writer!!! I can’t understand how he can get hired anywhere in the first place, anyway. Good riddance! Kudos to DC. Well done!
August 23rd, 2012 at 9:07 pm
That guy’s art is simply awful. I’d hope he leaves comics forever. Go do something else, man… That’s not for you. Leave comics to guys with real talent. Nothing against you on a personal level, in fact you seem like a nice guy, but your “art” is just grotesque.
August 23rd, 2012 at 9:15 pm
It was about time!!! How can Liefeld get any profesional gig in comics is beyond me. Congratulations to DC Comics.
August 23rd, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Maybe now those titles can be good again???– Just sayin’…
August 23rd, 2012 at 9:27 pm
DC should’ve fired Rob Liefeld much earlier. He ruins any book he touches. He’s probably the worst artist of his generation… Well, in fact, the worst artist in history, to be honest.
August 23rd, 2012 at 9:39 pm
I imagine his editor said something along the lines of, “Hey Rob, can you really try and give us something this month that doesn’t suck? Possibly draw a background somewhere, maybe even a foot or two?” Knowing he was out of his league, he whined like a little bitch and took his ball and went home.
August 23rd, 2012 at 9:39 pm
Maybe I’ll buy some of these titles now that Liefeld has gone. I’ll check them out. In fact I like the Hawkman character quite a bit, but there’s no way in hell I’d buy anything from that guy.
August 23rd, 2012 at 9:49 pm
Liefeld’s art sucks. He seems like a nice dude anyway. He should stick to what he does best (not really sure of what that is, though)-
August 23rd, 2012 at 9:55 pm
There’s a God after all. Good riddance! Thxs DC, your sales will improve on these books from now on.
August 23rd, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Glad he is gone. But as far as the new 52, I don’t know what most of you are reading, but almost everything ive read has been awesome!
August 23rd, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Glad to see him go. Good decision on DC’s part. Congrats.
August 23rd, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Who the heck hires someone like Rob Liefeld in the first place???
August 23rd, 2012 at 10:46 pm
He doesn’t quit. He’s been fired. He’s a liar.
August 24th, 2012 at 12:06 am
Rob Liefeld has been important to comics and its continued relevance. His work in the 90s is a milestone….
THAT SAID, his work hasn’t grown/evolved SINCE the 90s. I read an issue of Deathstroke and it looks like a derivative Youngblood #1 (the first #1. How many times has THAT series been relaunched?)
Liefeld needs to get with the times and stop pretending that his musclemen style is going to make a comeback. Jim Lee did him a favor by bringing him into something as big as The New 52 and his work was underwhelming. Like most of the IMAGE guys, Liefeld is better with pictures than words.
But I’ll miss him. No one throws a hissy fit like Rob Liefeld and my pair of Levi’s 501 button fly jeans just won’t fit the same.
August 24th, 2012 at 12:17 am
Finally!
August 24th, 2012 at 1:19 am
Gremlin517, You miss my whole point in the first place. My main point is that “fans” much like yourself who are “dedicated” to the characters and not DC do not respect what DC as a publishing company has to do to stay afloat in an industry where print is “dying”. My point is that the “fans” that are leaving cause they feel that DC owes it to them to keep things the same when in all actuality, You nor any other “fan” whether its of DC or the characters, knows what from pre flash point is being kept and what is not since it has not been written yet (except for green lantern stuff which is mostly untouched). So yeah i find it rediculous that you and the others rant and complain when you know nothing. 1) Just because you buy comics doesnt mean you know how the industry is ran and how it should be ran, and 2 lets face it whether you or anyone else likes it, the fact is that the wheels of time turn, styles of writing change, styles of art change (or at least it should unlike Liefield who has run the same crap art since Heroes Reborn Cap America and before), and people preferences change. The fact is that DC probably looked at it like most of the “Crisis” Legacy became a big mess with many heroes sharing the same name and tights all running around at the same time (i.e. wally, barry, Jay, and even a stint of bart running around as The Flash, or Bruce sharing the cape with Dick). Im not saying these are horrible stories cause they are great, but that and more would get real confusing to bring new readers into (young or old). They did what they needed to do to keep the business running and boost sales by modernizing the DC Universe. Out with the old and in with the new. I guess like they say “Ignorance is Bliss”.
August 24th, 2012 at 1:33 am
@Jason Bay – Nice guy? Did you read the article and his tweets? There’s nothing [I]nice[/I] about this guy.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:41 am
You miss my point entirely–it is not our place as fans to give one single farthing about what DC needs to do as a company to stay afloat–we are not here to make sure that they make any money whatsoever–it is our place to make sure that they make the best stories possible and that they make the best product possible–it is their place to find a balance between the two. I never understand those people who check on sales for any reason other than to see if their favorite comics will be around another day. You are ignorant, or better yet–you are willing to sell yourself out for sales–essentially you have no soul–I would rather read old comics and build up my Golden Age archives–than read the crud that you are willing to swallow just because you want to swallow anything that they think will bring in new sales–be proud of your stupid, small-minded concept of out with the old and in with the new–because that could comfort will lead you nowhere. You may like all of these pod characters–but some of us have higher standards than newbies like you.
August 24th, 2012 at 2:43 am
Supes–I miss nothing, I simply have a different point of view and having written for Comic Bloc and Comics Bulletin–I tend to think that I have better bona fides than you do.
Whether you agree or not.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:19 am
I still think that what is going on with DC has no respect for the fans and no respect for what has been an amazing history of DC Comics for over 75 years. Sure Didio comes from Hollywood and his ideas work there, where you can take the idea of Underdog, throw out every aspect of the cartoon that matters and just have a stupid beagle in a cape–but that kind of thing doesn’t work in comics. When you take Jay Garrick and turn him into a lame twenty-something in a stupid cap or Solomon Grundy and completely throw out his origin-like Hollywood would do with Twenty-One Jumpstreet or Green Lantern–you’re going to lose those of us that have been reading comics for more than a few months. But I have to ask again–is this the plan? Are Warner Brothers and Dan Didio trying to kill the comics aspect of DC, in favor of the toy, cartoon and movie aspects that make more money? Sending the art overseas, where it can be done extremely cheaply–forcing artists to ignore generations of history. Taking the names of characters and doing what I call the Recombinant DCU–that is, throwing DC characters names in a hat alongside a series of traits and pulling them out to see what you get, is the new way of creating the DCU. For DCNUwbies this may be fine, but for the rest of us–this is anathema–a best. An insult, worst.
I know some people will stand behind the idea that new is good, old is bad–but that is just ignorant, really. Just because something is new, does not mean it is better, it needs to be solid, cohesive, logical–good.
The awesome thing–and which will be great when Dan Didio is sent out on a rail–is that it will be the fans that will, ultimately decide–no Editorial fiat will hold over time, ultimately it is us who decides what sells–Earth-2 will ultimately fail. Ultimately the originally JSA will show up in the DCU and will kick these newbies in their high-collared a$$es. Ultimately, the original Dick Grayson and Huntress and Superman will be back and Dan Didio will go back to working at NBC, ABC or PBS or wherever he came from and folks like Superboy will rave about how new and exciting this all is–because people like him have no real ideas or history of their own. I just can’t wait for us to get over this crappy period and get back on track.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:24 am
Liefeld sucks. Period.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:40 am
That Rob Liefeld guy is goddamn awful.
August 24th, 2012 at 3:42 am
Good riddance!!!!!!!!
August 24th, 2012 at 3:52 am
Liefeld has ruined each and every book he’s been in. Message to publishers: Don’t let this man near any character or series of certain value. Better yet, don’t let him near anything at all.
August 24th, 2012 at 4:02 am
As I see it, the general consensus in the comics comunity is that Rob Liefeld`s a horrible artist and writer. For the life of me I can’t figure out how any relevant publisher would want to hire that hack.
August 24th, 2012 at 8:30 am
I don’t care how much past fame and money he has in the bank. I don’t give a d@mn if any of his properties are turned into films.
His Twitter comments slamming fellow professionals are puerile trite and immature. He comes off as a petulant child throwing a hissy fit because his daddy v-chipped Nick Jr. from him because he can’t play well with others.
What a pathetic child.
August 24th, 2012 at 8:45 am
If DC would find a printer who had lower prices, get rid of that ‘shiny’ paper and hire ad execs to sell space in DC books, comics could cost $1.99 again. If has been fanboy faves like Liefeld would just fade away and get jobs at Radio Shack or something, people who actually LIKE working in comics and who want to do good work would finally have a chance to resuscitate this business. Liefeld AND DC are in denial. It’s like they’re happy to get the occasional buyers who will fall away after a couple of months and never return. While, the stalwarts would support good comics forever if only DC would stop making it so hard to ‘like’ them. Sure, the new 52 (What does that even MEAN any more?) was a big risk. It didn’t take big balls to shoot those dice. It was an obvious desperation play. I don’t HATE Liefeld. I just wish he would be relegated to the moment of comics history he belongs in. Not trying to recapture past glory by being the same hack he always was.
August 24th, 2012 at 10:16 am
Liefeld: “Freelancers, tell your editor he works for you, not the other way around. Routinely fire them to remind then you call the shots.”
Worst advice to young comic writers and/or artists EVER.
August 24th, 2012 at 11:01 am
Chuck Dixon was just years ahead of the curve. If you can’t work with an accommodating guy like that, what hope do you have?
August 24th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Liefeld’s art looks terrible and very dated, very ’90s. He hasn’t improved his craft in 15 – 20 years. Why doesn’t he at least try to become a little better? You know, learn some anatomy and proportions, perspective and foreshortening, draw some backgrounds here and there, etc.
August 24th, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Only a couple of you has is right…the thought to be thinking about here is, dc is now downsizing their american talent, to get cheaper workers, to make that bottom-dollar seem more, inflated for their bosses. The new 52 was all started last minute not from editorial mandate, but from upper executives. They approached them with a “fix it somehow” thing or we’ll downsize without your input. This lit the fire, and everyone at dc ran around until didio went in and said “hey, can i finally reboot everything like i wanted when i first got here?”
I guess they agreed. But we will see this turn around. I for one, cannot wait for the end of the 52.
On another note, Valiant is back and doing big things…
August 27th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
This Is all bullCRAP!DC has fooled all of you and many creators.52 is nothing more than an experiment a super long heroes reborn.Its been done before and is nothing new.Liefeld and Jim Lee are the biggest hints as to what is going on.The old pre flashpoint heroes will be back in some end of the universe storyline.Calm your nerves enjoy the good stuff like Robinsons Shade and Morrisons Superman Snyders Batman.Take the rest of your money and go buy good old comics back issues and trades.This will not last mark my word.
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