Comments on: “We Work With Some of The Best Creators in The Business” http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/05/24/we-work-with-some-of-the-best-creators-in-the-business/ The Blog@ Team and prominent comics personalities share what’s on their minds. Fri, 24 May 2013 14:52:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Lisette Noe http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/05/24/we-work-with-some-of-the-best-creators-in-the-business/comment-page-1/#comment-740121 Lisette Noe Mon, 28 May 2012 10:51:50 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=32118#comment-740121 We work with some of the best creators in the business, we support their creative initiative and that’s where a lot of this comes from. http://www.andreaworden.com/ We work with some of the best creators in the business, we support their creative initiative and that’s where a lot of this comes from.

http://www.andreaworden.com/

]]> By: James Ritchey http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/05/24/we-work-with-some-of-the-best-creators-in-the-business/comment-page-1/#comment-739732 James Ritchey Fri, 25 May 2012 16:29:22 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=32118#comment-739732 Actually, the writing quality (except for the books that are most obviously creator-driven) has taken a hard nose dive since DCnU, and editorial seem to have gone off their collective rockers. It seems more 'Jim Shooter' Marvel years than Stan or Roy--I see some truly great writers/creators micromanaged, their unique voices unutilized and unpromoted--with the 'Catch-22' of because of sales--while the 'golden boys' get what they want. I see a Jim Lee house style dominating, some dreadful early '90's costume designs trunkless and 'ribbed for our enjoyment'--obviously by the same designer--like ALL the damn superheroes go to some Apokolips refugee taylor--and very talented creators grudgingly having to do completely tasteless garbage based on a certain original 12 issue GN that anyone with a conscience would be hard-pressed to attempt, if not for a desire to keep working--and having both 'lowest common denominator' fans and editorial gleeful about this fanwank travesty. Just a little over a year ago, if someone had asked me if I'd like to work for DC, I'd have given an emphatic 'yes'. Actually, the writing quality (except for the books that are most obviously creator-driven) has taken a hard nose dive since DCnU, and editorial seem to have gone off their collective rockers. It seems more ‘Jim Shooter’ Marvel years than Stan or Roy–I see some truly great writers/creators micromanaged, their unique voices unutilized and unpromoted–with the ‘Catch-22′ of because of sales–while the ‘golden boys’ get what they want. I see a Jim Lee house style dominating, some dreadful early ’90′s costume designs trunkless and ‘ribbed for our enjoyment’–obviously by the same designer–like ALL the damn superheroes go to some Apokolips refugee taylor–and very talented creators grudgingly having to do completely tasteless garbage based on a certain original 12 issue GN that anyone with a conscience would be hard-pressed to attempt, if not for a desire to keep working–and having both ‘lowest common denominator’ fans and editorial gleeful about this fanwank travesty.

Just a little over a year ago, if someone had asked me if I’d like to work for DC, I’d have given an emphatic ‘yes’.

]]> By: JW http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/05/24/we-work-with-some-of-the-best-creators-in-the-business/comment-page-1/#comment-739717 JW Fri, 25 May 2012 14:18:33 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=32118#comment-739717 Give me a break guys - what do you think that Stan Lee and Roy Thomas did for years? And that was for (arguably) the best period of Marvel comics? You don't think that Brian Bendis' ideas are shaping half the stories at Marvel today? It's all that same thing - the company wants something that sells and gives the creators directions on where to go. If the creator is hot themselves, then they sell the book and can go wherever they want. Geez, it's been this way for 50 years in comics. Stop acting like all of the "bad" work is coming out of DC Graeme - we know that you've had an issue with them for years. Both Marvel and Dc are run by mega corporations, so stop acting like you're surprised when editorial direction is placed on a project. This is an old and tired argument. Give me a break guys – what do you think that Stan Lee and Roy Thomas did for years? And that was for (arguably) the best period of Marvel comics? You don’t think that Brian Bendis’ ideas are shaping half the stories at Marvel today? It’s all that same thing – the company wants something that sells and gives the creators directions on where to go. If the creator is hot themselves, then they sell the book and can go wherever they want. Geez, it’s been this way for 50 years in comics.

Stop acting like all of the “bad” work is coming out of DC Graeme – we know that you’ve had an issue with them for years. Both Marvel and Dc are run by mega corporations, so stop acting like you’re surprised when editorial direction is placed on a project.

This is an old and tired argument.

]]> By: Marc-Oliver Frisch http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/05/24/we-work-with-some-of-the-best-creators-in-the-business/comment-page-1/#comment-739688 Marc-Oliver Frisch Fri, 25 May 2012 08:20:35 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=32118#comment-739688 "A lot of times? That doesn’t even sound like it’s the majority of times…" Here's a Dan DiDio quote from 2007: 'I’d say about 75% of the concepts that are being created are editorially driven.' Context: http://comiksdebris.blogspot.de/2007/07/executive-oversight.html “A lot of times? That doesn’t even sound like it’s the majority of times…”

Here’s a Dan DiDio quote from 2007: ‘I’d say about 75% of the concepts that are being created are editorially driven.’

Context: http://comiksdebris.blogspot.de/2007/07/executive-oversight.html

]]> By: Mechagamera http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/05/24/we-work-with-some-of-the-best-creators-in-the-business/comment-page-1/#comment-739603 Mechagamera Thu, 24 May 2012 21:54:51 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=32118#comment-739603 How many times have you heard "we are just waiting for a good pitch for X" where X=Cloak and Dagger or Moon Knight or Azrael? I think there are times when there is an editorial mandate for a result (lot fewer mutants, unmarried Spider-man, Avengers just like JLA, Batman "dead", etc.), but when the mandate isn't there, they are pretty open (how else would you explain Frankencastle? black Punisher?) as long as it is something that can be reversed if it doesn't work (and in comic books there aren't many things that can't be reversed). Until recently, I would have guessed that they would be more open to new stories as fodder for cartoon/online content. How many times have you heard “we are just waiting for a good pitch for X” where X=Cloak and Dagger or Moon Knight or Azrael? I think there are times when there is an editorial mandate for a result (lot fewer mutants, unmarried Spider-man, Avengers just like JLA, Batman “dead”, etc.), but when the mandate isn’t there, they are pretty open (how else would you explain Frankencastle? black Punisher?) as long as it is something that can be reversed if it doesn’t work (and in comic books there aren’t many things that can’t be reversed). Until recently, I would have guessed that they would be more open to new stories as fodder for cartoon/online content.

]]> By: CagedLeo730 http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/05/24/we-work-with-some-of-the-best-creators-in-the-business/comment-page-1/#comment-739578 CagedLeo730 Thu, 24 May 2012 19:51:30 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=32118#comment-739578 If people think that everything in Marvel or DC is "editorially mandated" let them think so. Some have no idea of the creative process while others have imagined this crazy taskmasters beating writers at their keyboards telling them what to write. If people think that everything in Marvel or DC is “editorially mandated” let them think so. Some have no idea of the creative process while others have imagined this crazy taskmasters beating writers at their keyboards telling them what to write.

]]> By: Chris B http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/05/24/we-work-with-some-of-the-best-creators-in-the-business/comment-page-1/#comment-739561 Chris B Thu, 24 May 2012 16:29:47 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=32118#comment-739561 Case in point: Flash. Manapul and Booch tell it like they were asked to contribute their ideas from the get-go, and that's how the book's been running. Case in point: Flash. Manapul and Booch tell it like they were asked to contribute their ideas from the get-go, and that’s how the book’s been running.

]]> By: Mike http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/05/24/we-work-with-some-of-the-best-creators-in-the-business/comment-page-1/#comment-739559 Mike Thu, 24 May 2012 16:15:50 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=32118#comment-739559 Translation: "When Grant Morrison and Geoff Johns come to editorial with a storyline, we do actually consider it." Maybe that's a bit too harsh, but that's the impression I get. Translation: “When Grant Morrison and Geoff Johns come to editorial with a storyline, we do actually consider it.”

Maybe that’s a bit too harsh, but that’s the impression I get.

]]> By: Aaron Poehler http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/05/24/we-work-with-some-of-the-best-creators-in-the-business/comment-page-1/#comment-739555 Aaron Poehler Thu, 24 May 2012 15:11:32 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=32118#comment-739555 If you've been paying attention I don't know why anyone would think it would be the majority of times. It's also naive to think this is a recent development at all. This is how traditional periodical comic book publishing works. If you’ve been paying attention I don’t know why anyone would think it would be the majority of times. It’s also naive to think this is a recent development at all. This is how traditional periodical comic book publishing works.

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