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	<title>Comments on: Alonso on Marvel Boycotts: &#8220;I Guess it’s Possible, but I Don’t Understand the Mindset&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: midnightjoker</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/04/30/alonso-on-marvel-boycotts-i-guess-it%e2%80%99s-possible-but-i-don%e2%80%99t-understand-the-mindset/comment-page-1/#comment-737432</link>
		<dc:creator>midnightjoker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 09:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Historic
the best thing about your post is that it was posted at 4:20.
the rest, haven&#039;t a clue!</description>
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the best thing about your post is that it was posted at 4:20.<br />
the rest, haven&#8217;t a clue!</p>
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		<title>By: Historic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Historic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 22:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mind blowing Hartung license plate givaway ends; priciest sale tops 200,000.A few of the most rare state license plates sold in lots for five figures. A set of vintage West Virginia plates sold for $26,000, while Oregon plates fetched $29,900.</description>
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		<title>By: moose n squirrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>moose n squirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 20:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alonso isn&#039;t talking about &quot;boycotts&quot; here, he&#039;s talking about readers getting tired or upset after specific storylines and editorial decisions. Most talk of reader boycotts - from David Brothers or Jeff Lester, say - has been in the context of a reaction against Marvel&#039;s unscrupulous and exploitative business practices, not because they&#039;re mad about One More Day or because they&#039;re irritated that Nightcrawler got killed off.

(I don&#039;t consider what Jeff or David are doing to be actual boycotts, really, but I&#039;ve gone into that ad nauseum in the Savage Critics comments. Nevertheless, what they&#039;re doing is much closer to a boycott than someone just dropping Marvel because they don&#039;t like the content.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alonso isn&#8217;t talking about &#8220;boycotts&#8221; here, he&#8217;s talking about readers getting tired or upset after specific storylines and editorial decisions. Most talk of reader boycotts &#8211; from David Brothers or Jeff Lester, say &#8211; has been in the context of a reaction against Marvel&#8217;s unscrupulous and exploitative business practices, not because they&#8217;re mad about One More Day or because they&#8217;re irritated that Nightcrawler got killed off.</p>
<p>(I don&#8217;t consider what Jeff or David are doing to be actual boycotts, really, but I&#8217;ve gone into that ad nauseum in the Savage Critics comments. Nevertheless, what they&#8217;re doing is much closer to a boycott than someone just dropping Marvel because they don&#8217;t like the content.)</p>
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		<title>By: bryceharper</title>
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		<dc:creator>bryceharper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 21:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How you can you boycott some thing when every title they publish right now is simply pure crap? Not boycotting out of spite mind you. Its the quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How you can you boycott some thing when every title they publish right now is simply pure crap? Not boycotting out of spite mind you. Its the quality.</p>
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		<title>By: googum</title>
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		<dc:creator>googum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 20:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;m not thrilled with a lot of Marvel&#039;s books lately, I have to admit bringing back proper Nightcrawler would go a long way with me.  Ideally, he comes back like the priest in &lt;strong&gt;Caddyshack&lt;/strong&gt;; burnt and grumbling &quot;there is no God...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m not thrilled with a lot of Marvel&#8217;s books lately, I have to admit bringing back proper Nightcrawler would go a long way with me.  Ideally, he comes back like the priest in <strong>Caddyshack</strong>; burnt and grumbling &#8220;there is no God&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tenebrous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tenebrous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 17:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Paul
If you want to argue that OMD had no significant impact on the quality of the book one way or the other, that&#039;s perfectly fine. However, that has nothing to do with my statement as I specifically said &quot;hardcore OMD haters&quot; not &quot;people who are hardcore ambivalent about OMD&quot; Nice try, though.

For example, luclin999 says OMD was a &quot;train wreck which damaged the entire Marvel line.&quot; That&#039;s right, it damged the line... by causing an immediate jump in quality?! WHAT?! HAHA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul<br />
If you want to argue that OMD had no significant impact on the quality of the book one way or the other, that&#8217;s perfectly fine. However, that has nothing to do with my statement as I specifically said &#8220;hardcore OMD haters&#8221; not &#8220;people who are hardcore ambivalent about OMD&#8221; Nice try, though.</p>
<p>For example, luclin999 says OMD was a &#8220;train wreck which damaged the entire Marvel line.&#8221; That&#8217;s right, it damged the line&#8230; by causing an immediate jump in quality?! WHAT?! HAHA!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Allen</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/04/30/alonso-on-marvel-boycotts-i-guess-it%e2%80%99s-possible-but-i-don%e2%80%99t-understand-the-mindset/comment-page-1/#comment-736281</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 15:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tenebrous

There&#039;s a false equivalency in your argument (and Alonso&#039;s, too). OMD happened to coincide with Marvel putting well-matched, A-level of talent on ASM, so of course it turned into a good-to-great book. I&#039;ve read ASM off and on since OMD, and I have to say that Peter being single is a minuscule-to-nonexistent portion of what makes it enjoyable. To say that the quality writing and art that marks Slott&#039;s ASM could not have happened without the events of OMD is disingenuous (and insulting to Slott and his artists).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tenebrous</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a false equivalency in your argument (and Alonso&#8217;s, too). OMD happened to coincide with Marvel putting well-matched, A-level of talent on ASM, so of course it turned into a good-to-great book. I&#8217;ve read ASM off and on since OMD, and I have to say that Peter being single is a minuscule-to-nonexistent portion of what makes it enjoyable. To say that the quality writing and art that marks Slott&#8217;s ASM could not have happened without the events of OMD is disingenuous (and insulting to Slott and his artists).</p>
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		<title>By: luclin999</title>
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		<dc:creator>luclin999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 04:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in fact one of those who chose to boycott all Marvel books after OMD. 

Before that fiasco, I subscribed to 20 Marvel books a month but dropped every single one of them in the weeks following OMD. I haven&#039;t given them a single penny of my money since.

As far as I am concerned, OMD was a poorly written train wreck which damaged the entire Marvel line. 

Hell, even Stan Lee decided to retcon the version of it that Marvel pushed off onto the daily strip as &quot;just a bad dream&quot; and if the character&#039;s creator feels that dumping the marriage was a bad idea then who the Hell does Quesada think he is to have continued supporting it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in fact one of those who chose to boycott all Marvel books after OMD. </p>
<p>Before that fiasco, I subscribed to 20 Marvel books a month but dropped every single one of them in the weeks following OMD. I haven&#8217;t given them a single penny of my money since.</p>
<p>As far as I am concerned, OMD was a poorly written train wreck which damaged the entire Marvel line. </p>
<p>Hell, even Stan Lee decided to retcon the version of it that Marvel pushed off onto the daily strip as &#8220;just a bad dream&#8221; and if the character&#8217;s creator feels that dumping the marriage was a bad idea then who the Hell does Quesada think he is to have continued supporting it?</p>
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		<title>By: Tenebrous</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/04/30/alonso-on-marvel-boycotts-i-guess-it%e2%80%99s-possible-but-i-don%e2%80%99t-understand-the-mindset/comment-page-1/#comment-736203</link>
		<dc:creator>Tenebrous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 00:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking for a good laugh? Ask a hardcore OMD hater if they like the current status quo of the books. When they say &#039;yes&#039; point out the inconsistency. Now sit back and listen to their hilarious explanation of how Marvel &quot;should have done it&quot; Extra points if the explanation includes the words &quot;timeline&quot;, &quot;clone&quot; or &quot;skrull&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking for a good laugh? Ask a hardcore OMD hater if they like the current status quo of the books. When they say &#8216;yes&#8217; point out the inconsistency. Now sit back and listen to their hilarious explanation of how Marvel &#8220;should have done it&#8221; Extra points if the explanation includes the words &#8220;timeline&#8221;, &#8220;clone&#8221; or &#8220;skrull&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sallyp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sallyp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 19:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a former hardcore Marvel Zombie.  That was all that I bought for years and years and years.  But they completely lost me with Civil War, although the dissatisfaction had been setting in earlier.  Now, I no longer read Avengers, X-Men, Spider-Man etc.  I do still read Journey Into Mystery, because it is fabulous, and I loved Incredible Hercules and Next Wave, but guess what...they cancelled the latter two.  

I have to say that I&#039;ve moved over to the DC aisle and I&#039;ve been happy ever since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a former hardcore Marvel Zombie.  That was all that I bought for years and years and years.  But they completely lost me with Civil War, although the dissatisfaction had been setting in earlier.  Now, I no longer read Avengers, X-Men, Spider-Man etc.  I do still read Journey Into Mystery, because it is fabulous, and I loved Incredible Hercules and Next Wave, but guess what&#8230;they cancelled the latter two.  </p>
<p>I have to say that I&#8217;ve moved over to the DC aisle and I&#8217;ve been happy ever since.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 16:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pattern I&#039;ve seen with Marvel editors / leadership is that the only fan complaints they&#039;ll publicly address are the most extreme, knee-jerk, whiny, myopic ones, as Alonso does here. The reality is that most fans (see comments above) have sane and rational reasons for quitting (or boycotting) Marvel comics (lack of support of past creators, high prices, double shipping, inconsistency of creative teams, too many events).

Either this is a canny strategy to avoid uncomfortable realities, or they really believe their fans are so blindly loyal that they&#039;ll buy whatever Marvel&#039;s selling, but evidence seems to run to the contrary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pattern I&#8217;ve seen with Marvel editors / leadership is that the only fan complaints they&#8217;ll publicly address are the most extreme, knee-jerk, whiny, myopic ones, as Alonso does here. The reality is that most fans (see comments above) have sane and rational reasons for quitting (or boycotting) Marvel comics (lack of support of past creators, high prices, double shipping, inconsistency of creative teams, too many events).</p>
<p>Either this is a canny strategy to avoid uncomfortable realities, or they really believe their fans are so blindly loyal that they&#8217;ll buy whatever Marvel&#8217;s selling, but evidence seems to run to the contrary.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean R-B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean R-B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 14:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not actively boycotting Marvel, but I am down to one book: DAREDEVIL. I don&#039;t buy the rest of their line because it is mostly badly written and the art is ugly and confusing with coloring that makes everything look muddy and dark. Those are just not things I want to spend my money on. I did take a look at WOLVERINE AND THE X_MEN, which was fun, but not enough for me to follow it monthly. I may pick up the trades on that one. 

And, quite honestly, I may be dropping DAREDEVIL soon. The last couple of cross-overs and the poor art in the last issue have got me thinking maybe I don&#039;t need to be reading this ongoing.

It&#039;s just obvious to me that Marvel is much more concerned with getting product onto the shelves as quickly and in quantity as possible and not particularly invested in that product being as good as it could be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not actively boycotting Marvel, but I am down to one book: DAREDEVIL. I don&#8217;t buy the rest of their line because it is mostly badly written and the art is ugly and confusing with coloring that makes everything look muddy and dark. Those are just not things I want to spend my money on. I did take a look at WOLVERINE AND THE X_MEN, which was fun, but not enough for me to follow it monthly. I may pick up the trades on that one. </p>
<p>And, quite honestly, I may be dropping DAREDEVIL soon. The last couple of cross-overs and the poor art in the last issue have got me thinking maybe I don&#8217;t need to be reading this ongoing.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just obvious to me that Marvel is much more concerned with getting product onto the shelves as quickly and in quantity as possible and not particularly invested in that product being as good as it could be.</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 00:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t boycot marvle but i do buy a lot less marvel comic&#039;s mainly because of priceing and page count and sometime&#039;s I think the book&#039;s get poor editor&#039;s but might be the writer&#039;s fault.Most of the money went to other company&#039;s like boom,idw,darkhorse ect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t boycot marvle but i do buy a lot less marvel comic&#8217;s mainly because of priceing and page count and sometime&#8217;s I think the book&#8217;s get poor editor&#8217;s but might be the writer&#8217;s fault.Most of the money went to other company&#8217;s like boom,idw,darkhorse ect.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gave several other points other than story related for why I was boycotting them. I was enjoying Punisher and Thunderbolts, but chose to let them go because I wasn&#039;t happy with Marvel Comics as a whole. I voted with my dollars, vote of no confidence in the publishing division.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gave several other points other than story related for why I was boycotting them. I was enjoying Punisher and Thunderbolts, but chose to let them go because I wasn&#8217;t happy with Marvel Comics as a whole. I voted with my dollars, vote of no confidence in the publishing division.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Phelps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Phelps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without condoning or condeming, I don&#039;t think the thought process is all that hard to understand, esp. when it comes to a character like Spider-Man.  

For one thing, he&#039;s frequently a &quot;gateway character.&quot;  Losing interest in him can prompt an overall lack of interest in the MU.  The bigger consideration is that he&#039;s a hard character to escape, especially these days.  He&#039;s in the Avengers and the Fantastic Four, recently had two crossovers with Daredevil (one of which also involved the Punisher), etc., etc.  

As for the whole &quot;rectifying&quot; bit, where OMD was concerned, that was seen as a story that rectified an existing problem and the leadership at Marvel hasn&#039;t changed since then.  And continuing to buy hoping for a fix is foolish given the whole &quot;voting with your wallet&quot; thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without condoning or condeming, I don&#8217;t think the thought process is all that hard to understand, esp. when it comes to a character like Spider-Man.  </p>
<p>For one thing, he&#8217;s frequently a &#8220;gateway character.&#8221;  Losing interest in him can prompt an overall lack of interest in the MU.  The bigger consideration is that he&#8217;s a hard character to escape, especially these days.  He&#8217;s in the Avengers and the Fantastic Four, recently had two crossovers with Daredevil (one of which also involved the Punisher), etc., etc.  </p>
<p>As for the whole &#8220;rectifying&#8221; bit, where OMD was concerned, that was seen as a story that rectified an existing problem and the leadership at Marvel hasn&#8217;t changed since then.  And continuing to buy hoping for a fix is foolish given the whole &#8220;voting with your wallet&#8221; thing.</p>
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		<title>By: RF</title>
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		<dc:creator>RF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not really a boycott, Adam. That&#039;s what they call &quot;not getting the thing you don&#039;t like anymore.&quot;

Anyway, this is hardly a &quot;weird admission.&quot; A weird admission would be, &quot;I dress up like Murphy Brown&quot; or &quot;I only eat candy corn.&quot; This is more just saying something out loud that everybody understands and maybe we should stop getting so freaked out about every three months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not really a boycott, Adam. That&#8217;s what they call &#8220;not getting the thing you don&#8217;t like anymore.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway, this is hardly a &#8220;weird admission.&#8221; A weird admission would be, &#8220;I dress up like Murphy Brown&#8221; or &#8220;I only eat candy corn.&#8221; This is more just saying something out loud that everybody understands and maybe we should stop getting so freaked out about every three months.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2012/04/30/alonso-on-marvel-boycotts-i-guess-it%e2%80%99s-possible-but-i-don%e2%80%99t-understand-the-mindset/comment-page-1/#comment-736017</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wasn&#039;t just story developments that made me boycott Marvel. Price increases, page drops, the writers they have, the smugness of the editors, the majority of their books Avengers or XMen related, all reasons I let go of Marvel. Story reasons: Norman Osborn doing the same thing he did in Dark Reign, having the public backlash against heroes, Simon Williams attacking the Avengers and just saying that they are wrong and not providing a solution, the sheer horridness that was Fear Itself, making Cyclops a lunatic, Civil War part 2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t just story developments that made me boycott Marvel. Price increases, page drops, the writers they have, the smugness of the editors, the majority of their books Avengers or XMen related, all reasons I let go of Marvel. Story reasons: Norman Osborn doing the same thing he did in Dark Reign, having the public backlash against heroes, Simon Williams attacking the Avengers and just saying that they are wrong and not providing a solution, the sheer horridness that was Fear Itself, making Cyclops a lunatic, Civil War part 2.</p>
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