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Remember When We Didn’t Know Any Better?

January 26th, 2012
Author Graeme McMillan

Reading recent collections of New Mutants Classic, as the logo describes it, I found myself remembering how difficult I found the Bill Sienkiewicz-illustrated issues when they were were first coming out. For the most part, it was the art, which was simultaneously more realistic and less grounded in ideas of a physical reality than what my 10 year old brain was used to at the time – I found it attractive but difficult to parse, to understand exactly what it all meant, sometimes – but Chris Claremont’s writing shifted to match what he was seeing, it seemed, with the stories becoming darker in tone (Professor Xavier has an illegitimate son with multiple personalities! Dani is being terrorized by an unstoppable monster! Cloak and Dagger have appeared and there’re drugs and addiction metaphors!) and less straight-ahead in execution. Re-reading it all now, it feels like bold stuff, a step forward from the Bob McLeod-illustrated issues and an important evolution not only for the book and its characters, but for Claremont as a writer and the X-Men franchise in general, but at the time… these were unsettling comics.

(When Jackson Guice and Kyle Baker came on as the regular art team, a year or so later, that was my era of true New Mutants love; I don’t know if it’s because I was at the right age, or that I could deal better with the more traditional art style.)

Remembering all this made me think about earlier prejudices I’d had about comics and artists in particular that seem ridiculous to me now: I remember thinking that Don Heck was boring, or that Jack Kirby was old-fashioned, for example, as well as being convinced that no-one could draw Guy Gardner as well as John Byrne had in Legends (This isn’t to be confused with my still-existing theory that no-one can draw Captain Britain as well as Alan Davis, although I’m looking forward to Gabriel Hardman proving me wrong in Secret Avengers). It’s embarrassing and weirdly reassuring to remember all of these ideas I had about what worked and didn’t work in comics back then, in part because oh man was I wrong about a lot of stuff, but also, it’s good to see myself learning and getting over snobbery and the like as I get older; I hope that, twenty years from now, I can look back on things I didn’t like and laugh at myself for my appalling taste.

That said, I’m wondering what comic prejudices and phobias you’ve had (and recovered from), dear readers. What used to turn you off, but you hate to admit it these days?

14 Responses to “Remember When We Didn’t Know Any Better?”
  1. Steve Says:

    I was just telling a friend about this the other day. Once upon a time, I picked up an issue of X-Force and was disappointed to see that Rob Liefeld only did the framing sequence, while the main story was by some guy I’d never heard of. “Who the heck is Mike Mignola?”

  2. Simon DelMonte Says:

    I couldn’t handle Watchmen when it came out. I was just done with my freshman year of college, and as much as I was ready for what would be the most amazing time there ever was to read DC Comics’ books, it was too big a leap from Crisis and Firestorm to Watchmen. Too dark, too adult, too unsettling.

    I followed it from the edges of the comic shop, skimming issues now and then but never being ready to commit. I was madly into Dark Knight Returns, The Question, and some of DC’s other mature reader books. But Watchmen had to wait.

    I didn’t get around to it till 2003. I kick myself for waiting so very long.

  3. Sallyp Says:

    One’s tastes do certainly grown and develop. I too remember thinking that Jack Kirby wasn’t really all that great. I don’t think that NOW of course. I’ve always hated Liefeld’s art however. And to this day, I still love John Buscema.

  4. M. Says:

    I used to be a total Marvel fanboy during the ’80s and had a complete dislike of anything from DC comics, thinking their stuff was immature and not “realistic” like the Marvel Universe. Ha, how silly! In the end it turned out to be the total opposite.

    Thanks to DC for publishing Alan Moore’s Swamp Thing run, Watchmen, DKR, Batman: Year One, Hellblazer, Sandman and a host of other titles that for a maturing teenager at the time, I came to realise what a total joke Marvel’s comics really were and have not looked back since. I eventually went on to read indie titles like Maus, The Crow, and Usagi Yojimbo and also Manga like Detective Conan and Battle Angel.

    If I had stayed a Marvel fanboy I never would’ve read all those great titles I mentioned above. Fanboyism is what really kills the industry in my opinion.

  5. Aaron Poehler Says:

    It was all clear to me when I was eight that Marvel had the better artists while DC had the better characters.

  6. Paul Allen Says:

    I’d like to think it’s age and maturity, but I also think what I look for and appreciate in comic art has changed. Some of the stuff I loved when I was 13 (McFarlane on Spider-Man, Liefeld on X-Force) looks awkward to me now. And some of the artists I found boring then (Paul Ryan comes to mind, specifically) I have a great respect for.

  7. shameonshamus Says:

    i still think Graeme Macmillasn and wife is still a horrible comics reporters and columnist… and nothing has changed that feeling

  8. Shawn Kane Says:

    I HATED when Bill Sienkiewicz took over the book mainly because I liked the Bob McLeod and Sal Buscema run. Going back and re-reading the entire Claremont run a few years ago, I found that I liked the Sienkiewicz stuff more this time around. I’m more familiar with his work than I was at the time that the comic came out and I’m sure that there’s a nostalgic quality to those issues that remind me of being in the sixth grade and getting those New Mutant issues after baseball practice at the local High’s Dairy Store.

  9. justsaying Says:

    For me I started by reading Secret Wars then collecting the various monthlies. Thought Spider-man was awesome for kicking the X-men’s butt. Took a long time before I could warm up the X-men because I kept thinking Spider-man would have easily beaten that villain that the whole team was struggling with.

  10. Sal fan Says:

    Sal Buscema on Spectacular Spider-man. When I was a kid I hated his stuff, now it blows me away, I think he’s one of the best Spidey artists ever

  11. Slade Says:

    Years ago I used to think Graeme was an untalented hack who posted pointless comments and ended every one of his posts with a question mark. Now that my tastes have matured I can see that he’s an untalented hack who posts pointless comments and ends only 90% of his posts with a question mark.

  12. Matt Spatola Says:

    What turns me off is all of Graeme’s posts either having a question for a headline or a question at the end or the double whammy of both. And I can see that I’m not the only one.

  13. shameonshamus Says:

    you are not the only one — he is the worst type of writer in all of the comic press/blogosphere and he is on almost every site spouting his senseless comments…..

    PLEASe get someone else that actually has CONTENT not just question that have little or no merit or useless comments that mean he is just filling space,

  14. vEk Says:

    Lets just say nostalgia is a very dangerous thing in the Marvel Universe.

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