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Where Does Cyborg Belong In The New DCU?

June 24th, 2011
Author Graeme McMillan

There’s a particular gap in the post-Flashpoint solicitations that I’m not sure I’ve seen anyone bring up yet. Really, it’s also a gap in the Flashpoint solicitations, as well (Maybe even moreso). Namely… Where is the Cyborg solo series?

I know, that may seem like an odd question to ask; Cyborg has never really been seen as a solo star – Outside of a 2008 mini and some Teen Titans Spotlights, he’s not even been given the chance to shine away from a team – but in the run up to Flashpoint, he was named as the breakout star of the series by Dan Didio, as well as having Geoff Johns say things like this about him:

Cyborg, much like Aquaman, is one of my favorite characters. I brought him into The Flash way back when and I brought him into Teen Titans. I always felt that he was so recognizable and I thought he was such a great character. He’s one of my favorites. I just felt like there are a lot more stories to be told about him, and he’s a character that I really wanted to work with more. I would love to elevate the character.

And, yet, Cyborg doesn’t have his own Flashpoint spin-off, for some reason. Even though there are 20 different spin-off titles, and characters Gorilla Grodd and the Canterbury Cricket get one, the “breakout star” of the entire event doesn’t. Doesn’t that seem strange to anyone else?

(At first I thought, “Well, maybe it’s because his story gets told inside the main series,” and then realized that that rationale doesn’t exactly work when Batman, Aquaman and Wonder Woman all have their own spin-offs.)

When Cyborg then appeared alongside the Justice League in the first image released from the new DCU status quo, I thought, Oh, so clearly they’re serious about elevating the character, and with 51 other series to be announced, surely he’ll get his own series now. Of course, he didn’t, making him the only member of the JLA in that image to be without at least one regular solo book. So… why?

Is it his name? I can imagine there may be trademark issues over calling a comic “Cyborg” (as in, if it’s not already trademarked, I’ll be surprised. I wondered, for a second, whether you could even trademark a word as common as that for use as a comic title, and then remembered that DC had Steel as a trademarked title for quite some time), but is that enough reason to keep him from his own book?

This isn’t me looking for some kind of crazy conspiracy theory here – It’s very obviously not a race issue, because otherwise why would DC launch Mr. Terrific or Static Shock, before anyone goes down that road – but genuinely wondering what’s going on. It’s as if DC really would like to make Cyborg happen, but don’t quite believe that he can handle it. Am I the only person who expected him to get his own book? Am I the only person who’d read one, if he got it?

38 Responses to “Where Does Cyborg Belong In The New DCU?”
  1. Brian Pate Says:

    I was surprised by this, too.

  2. Mechagamera Says:

    I think it is hard for characters perceived primarily as “part of a team” to sustain a solo series. Outside of Wolverine,Cable and Powergirl, I can’t think of any character whose series lasted more than a handful of issues. So maybe DC’s goal is to build him up in JLA before giving him a solo series.

  3. Kyle Says:

    Not for nothing, but DC HAS to know that a lot of their titles are only going to last a few months, particularly those featuring characters with very little following.
    Perhaps DC want to make sure that doesn’t happen to Cyborg, instead taking the time to build him up to the point where he can actually sustain his own title.

  4. Simon DelMonte Says:

    Cyborg is going to be the main character in the new JLA comic. Yes, that should not be possible, but we’ve seen JL books before with a main character. The first arc in the current series was really about Red Tornado. J’Onn came very close to being the star of several different eras of JL comics.

  5. Jerry Whitworth Says:

    I think it should be noted more new series will be announced for October. So, I guess, we have to wait and see.

  6. Aja Russell Says:

    Every one who posted previously has made very good points. In JLA, they can build on the character, even more, and utilize him like the ‘Oracle’, except he could be more mobile. I say, some time down the road, DC should give him a 3 issue story arc. If the fans want more, give him a 3-5 issue mini-series with the Titans, JLA and other characters from his past. Then give him his own series as ‘Oracle’, (or something like that), if the readership, fan base and sales, back up the facts of him having a series.

  7. tayo Says:

    Cyborg has strong potential for getting an ongoing series of his own, but it has to be pulled off proberly and dc seem to be doing that by placing him on the new jla, thus, building up his already strong popularity. Now all they need to do is give martian manhunter his own ongoing in the future.

  8. Aaron Says:

    @tayo – yeah, ’cause that worked out so well the last time. how many people bought his last longer running series? I’m the only one who goes to my LCS/gaming store who still remembers the 35+ issue run aside from the owner!

  9. samuel Anderson Says:

    I thought I read that Justice League and Action Comics take place at the dawn of superheroes so how could cyborg have history with the titans?

  10. Giancarlo Says:

    Really excellent point- I figured he’d get a book too. I’m frankly surprised by a great deal of the choices of who/what did get solo books. I’m not sure if I’d have started Superboy over- and now that you mention him, where does this relaunch/reboot/re-whatever leave Steel? Lots of questions…

  11. Ashley Says:

    I would have prefered Steel or Mister Terrific then Cyborg not to down play his character but i picture the 3rd smartest man in the world to start the JLA rather than a mecha man/teen i know he’s around drakes age but him being america greatest hero for no explained (from what i’ve read) reason seems like they just show horned him in. But i guess we’ll have to see how it turns out till the reboot of the revamp… yes

  12. R.J.Bowman Says:

    I just searched Diamond Comics Back Catalog, and found a mere nine items with the word “Cyborg” in their names. One was a Teen Titans spotlight book,seven were Cyborg Superman related items, and one was a “Dr. Cyborg” indie comic. There doesn’t seem to be a trademark issue.

  13. Rob Postuma Says:

    Being that CYBORG is an actual word, there isn’t much you can do to trademark it (the character itself, a whole other thing). They’d end up calling a solo series something along the line of “The Power of Cyborg”, or something along those lines.

    That being said, Vic Stone/Cyborg is being used as a “diversity” character to add much needed “color” to the JLA roster. Unfortunately, he exists in a world where his “power” (ie- of having cybernetic implants to give him extra strength) don’t really give him a “leg up” *cough* on other characters with actual super powers. As powerful as the character actually is, he’s overshadowed strength-wise even by AQUAMAN – so instead of dumping him, we bury him into being “tech” guy/assistant.

  14. Ashley Says:

    I know Batman has the power of money but are you saying Cyborg could kick his arse? But i see what you mean being part machine is a bit of a handicap but at least it’s better than kevlar right.

  15. marvelprince Says:

    I was also very surprised that Vic didnt get his own comic, especially considering all the positive talk he received from the DC higher ups and the play he seems to be getting in Flashpoint. I thought he was shoe in for a title, but I have to hope that his is one that they plan to announce for launch in October.

  16. LGBoex Says:

    I can think of two reasons why DC didnt give Cyborg his own title:

    - Vic is surprisingly bland character, one of those characters that helps plots to progress for others, not a star in his own right; even on those rare occasions when he takes center stage its only because some alien race has taken over his body or cloned him or copied his armor.
    That’s not enough to carry a book.

    - Vix is one of the characters that will be most affected by the DCnU reboot. In the DCnU he starts out with the fledgling Justice League. The JL inspire the Teen Titans, so it stands to reason that Vic was never in the DCnU Teen Titans and what little we do know of him cannot be used in the DCnU.
    This also works against him having his own book, at least for now.

    Best to build him up a bit, and then when all the canon fodder totles have gone away, give him his own limited series to test the waters.

  17. mateo107 Says:

    really, does anyone else see that JLA image with Cyborg and automatically think “token black guy”? he’s out of place enough just because he was never a founding JLA member (and most people never really thought he belonged there anyway). i think it’s kind of silly that DC is trying to shoe-horn him into the JLA (apparently at the loss of his Titans history, which actually was relevant, groundbreaking integration), and giving him his own series would have been overkill, since they have yet to convince anybody he’s that important to the DCU.

  18. Ashley Says:

    he probably is “Token” but in the Teen Titans cartoon was SICK, he could be what wally was in JL cartoon ‘optimsm’ he not an uninteresting character just no explored or fleshed out well in comic he doesn’t stand out… personallity wise.
    You know everytime i think about it the cartoons come to mind… Bruce Timm and Dwayne McDuffie (RIP) really should have taken over from Didio and Johns their not bad just seems they haven’t thought this through even Crisis on Infinite earths was better planned till zero hour… or identity crisis or…

  19. little kon-el Says:

    Vic is interesting because he’s one of DC’s last Bronze Age Icons. Cyborg was in Superfriends. He has an easy hook to remember. He is visually interesting. He’s one of the few modern-age heroes that stands for technology in a way that is different than, say, Iron Man’s suit of armor. He also had a hit cartoon with the rest of the Titans.

    Steel (aka John Henry Irons) is basically Iron Man. Mr. Terrific is basically Batman. But Cyborg is different because his power is internalized technology that makes him a freaky-looking guy. His technology is replacement technology, an extreme variation of Iron Man.

    - l.k.

  20. mr.e Says:

    cyborg?boring.very boring.like ironman and deathlok.been there read that.

  21. Charles J. Baserap Says:

    My thoughts are that, for right now, he’s at least in the JLA, whereas a lot of other characters getting solo books aren’t being featured anywhere else, so why take up a slot with a guy already being “covered.”

    Of course, they could have done without a few of the Bat-titles and Green Lantern ones, but that’s just DC going with the easy money. But most of the solo titles have people not in a major team (again, outside of the now Big Five of WW, Supes, Batman, Flash and GL), so Cyborg may be getting his eventually.

    As for Flashpoint, he SHOULD have had a mini or a one shot instead of yet another drawn out mini with Geoff’s pet Captain Cold or three books dealing with the Aquaman/Amazon War, but that’s, again, DC for you.

    They kept talking about how important WW was around the time of Final Crisis and yet she get hardly any panel time and no mini, whereas every single other advertised character in DC Universe #0 did, even the Rogues.

  22. jgones Says:

    another crap article from this crap writer

  23. Matthew Lane Says:

    Um, because cyborg is not a very interesting character, maybe because they have something major planned for hin in the rest of this story, because his powers are now completely fubar in this series.

  24. Hans Says:

    yeah. he’s just not that interesting. even back in the classic days of the Teen Titans he was mostly just very stiff and self pitying and not particularly likable. he may have confidence now, but he never really grew a personality.

    I have no idea how he even rates being in this all-star line-up. honestly at this point I’m inclined to believe he really was added just so it wouldn’t be all whites, because everyone on the internet would flip out again if they did that. but hell they could have at least used Black Lightning again instead. he’s a much better character.

  25. GeorgeC Says:

    When this Reboot fails, I don’t think even Teflon Dan Didio is going to survive the purge that will occur at DC amongst the higher-end officers.

    Lots of “great” things have happened while he’s been at DC.

    No indication of a clue to a central plan/strategy that will actually help DC at this point in time. And there’s been plenty of time to formulate something decent, something better than another turnback.

    His stewardship days are numbered…

  26. BurgundyTears Says:

    Ah, just hire “Lathis”, the guy who wrote “Dark Titans” to do it. He’s got excellent grasp of the potential of the most popular/workable “Go!” incarnation of the character, along with sufficient technical know-how.

  27. DJM Says:

    Every writer has their favorite second or third tier character. Meltzer, for example, loves Geo-Force who he added to the JLA during his run on that book. Johns loves Cyborg, so he’s adding him to the team.
    Cyborg is not a well known character. Even among comic fans he’s probably a C level character at best. I suspect that are going to try to build him up during his JLA run and then hope he becomes popular enough for his own title down the line.

  28. Rock Roche Says:

    I bought Cyborg’s mini series from a couple years back. Good read. He is a great character and one of my favorite titans. Now that he’s a league member, the exposure and popularity levels should rise.

    Cyborg will be a big player, if done correctly.

  29. ChrisG Says:

    Was a Cyborg series mentioned at some point during the run up to DCnU?

    Regardless of whether it was or wasn’t, when I saw Cyborg in the JLA preview art it almost immediately occurred to me, “This character should really be in a solo series. Why has this not already happened?!”

  30. Ziyad Says:

    i think Cyborg has the same problem John Stewart has because they are both the silent types who without the proper handling can’t come off as alive or vibrant and therefore cant really handle a mini-series or series where they are the main character. Thats because they are more or less are turtles in a shell.

    The justice league and teen titans worked around that by giving them arcs were they had to come out of the shells such as jl when john fell in love with hawkgirl or teen titans when cyborg became leader of titans east.

    I think Cyborg should have gotten his own mini because him being this world’s superman would have gotten him out of shell .

  31. Mike Says:

    I don’t think enough effort has been made to make him emotionally interesting, even to the degree of a character like Cyclops who seems destined to be resigned to team books. Cyborg has a lot of potential, and even before DCnU or Flashpoints I saw him as a hero struggling to be on par with Superman level characters even though he had the potential to be. My thoughts on him was that he was a tragic figure who saw his potential as a curse and just wanted to be normal. That seems to be a somewhat standard take on him I just don’t feel it’s been explored that well. He’s also in dire need of an actual villain, not someone who he leeches off of the Teen Titans.

  32. marius Says:

    I think that DC have loads of great characters but no all should have a solo book. Cyborg started in a team series and that’s where I prefer him to be. I am a HUGE New Teen Titans fan and LOVE the character. What bothers me is that he’s not in a much more interesting team than the JLA. I didn’t get the last JLA series that had most of the Titans team in it. I just believe that the characters Perez/Wolfman created deserve better than that. Unfortunately that magic in storytelling has not been repeated with this characters since then. I only hope that in this new series Cyborg will shine properly, and not given the sole duty to babysit the JLA hq.

  33. Chuck Says:

    Cyborg could be to DC what Thing was to Marvel. They are both brooding ‘monster’ type characters, who are cursed and scarred on the outside, but heroic to a fault at their cores.

    As far as villains are concerned, Vic doesn’t have to have an entire rogues gallery. There are tons of DC characters that have fallen to the wayside, or can be stripped down and rebuilt into viable threats. All it takes is one creative person to flip through their Who’s Who for that.

    Honestly, I feel the quintessential Cyborg story was in the issue of Teen Titans that was basically, “A Day In The Life” for the characters. I’m not sure if Wolfman & Perez crafted it that way but it evokes the classic Thing story, “This Man… This Monster.”

    The character has wonderful potential, but all the potential in the world doesn’t amount to a hill of beans if the creators are just phoning it in. It takes a love of character, and a vision for ways to make him grow.

    I completely missed the fact that Cyborg wasn’t given his own book (as he should have), but hopefully this “Great Plan” of DC’s has factored giving the character more exposure to one day do exactly that. We’ll see.

  34. drewber2635 Says:

    I seriously think they should replace the Batwing book with a Cyborg book. I mean an African Batman is ok in my book, but one that wears lighter purple and baby blue metal armor? I think im going to be sick…

  35. NeoSamurai Says:

    I think Cyborg could be interesting if they play up the strong silent aspect of the character and let his actions do most of his talking. This characterization could even work better by emphasizing that his silence isn’t so much from brooding but by the equivalent of Batman sitting in front of dozens of monitors in the Batcave.

    I dunno–I just think that would work for the character and keep him interesting. Kind of how Snake Eyes tended to be extremely interesting without having much of a characterization.

  36. Fufufu Says:

    Who lets inbred neckbeards like GeorgeC post? Lock this neckbeard back in his basement.

  37. Fufufu Says:

    @GeorgeC: Man i really hope someone bloodies up your worthless neckbeard nose.

  38. NYJ Says:

    “Where Does Cyborg Belong In The New DCU?”

    Apparently rammed down our throats, along with the rest of Geoffrey’s fanboy faves. Ugh.

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