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	<title>Comments on: [Spoilers] DC&#8217;s Surprise Ending To JLA #58 May Explain A Missing Character In The Relaunch</title>
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		<title>By: Manga Spoiler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manga Spoiler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 02:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you a bunch for sharing this with all folks you actually recognise what you&#039;re speaking approximately! Bookmarked. Please additionally consult with my web site =). We will have a link trade arrangement between us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you a bunch for sharing this with all folks you actually recognise what you&#8217;re speaking approximately! Bookmarked. Please additionally consult with my web site =). We will have a link trade arrangement between us</p>
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		<title>By: light and sound machine, brain machine,meditation</title>
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		<dc:creator>light and sound machine, brain machine,meditation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do believe all of the ideas you have offered for your post. They&#039;re really convincing and will certainly work. Nonetheless, the posts are very short for starters. Could you please extend them a little from subsequent time? Thank you for the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do believe all of the ideas you have offered for your post. They&#8217;re really convincing and will certainly work. Nonetheless, the posts are very short for starters. Could you please extend them a little from subsequent time? Thank you for the post.</p>
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		<title>By: BigC</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t care for the storyline. After a certain point it felt like JL was just barely chugging along. I liked the lineup, but the stories weren&#039;t all that</description>
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		<title>By: JosephW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JosephW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 02:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I love Donna, I&#039;m getting the idea that most of her &quot;fans&quot; (the ones doing the most griping about the death--which, at this point, we don&#039;t even know if it&#039;s going to stick) have forgotten that she&#039;s actually a mistake.

The *original* Wonder Girl was actually a teenaged Diana.  Unfortunately, Bob Haney had not realized that the &quot;Wonder Girl&quot; who&#039;d appeared in many of the late 1950s Wonder Woman comics written by Robert Kanigher was Diana.  Queen Hippolyta seemed to have a penchant for viewing things through a magic viewing screen, usually things that had happened in the past.  In some of these stories, she would recall things that Diana had done as a young girl/teenager, things that seemed to &quot;prepare&quot; Diana for her eventual role as Wonder Woman.  (Diana also had some adventures as a &quot;Wonder Tot&quot;.  These tales reflected the Superman history with Superboy&#039;s adventures being &quot;stories of Superman when he was a boy&quot; as well as the wilder tales of him as a &quot;Supertot.&quot;)

There were a couple of these Hipployta viewscreen stories that might have influenced Haney&#039;s idea of Wonder Girl being a separate character.  In them, Hippolyta, using some of that ol&#039; Amazon magic, would &quot;summon&quot; Wonder Woman&#039;s earlier selves into existence.  Typically, the reason would be rather benign (IMS, one story revolved around whether Hippolyta loved one particular Diana more than the others) but something would happen to create a life-and-death fight that could only be achieved with Hippolyta and the Wonder Daughters joining their forces to fight off the bad guy.  (To a degree, John Byrne played with this concept during his run on &quot;Wonder Woman.&quot;)

Of course, DC&#039;s continuity was pretty lackluster during Silver Age period.  Each of the major characters&#039; titles (Superman/Action, Batman/Detective, Wonder Woman) tended to ignore things that happened in the team-up books (Brave and the Bold, World&#039;s Finest, Justice League of America) and vice-versa until the very late 1960s.  The Wonder Girl of the Teen Titans didn&#039;t even get an origin (or a name) until several years after her first appearance with the Titans and all because Bob Haney was only interested in telling stories that he thought would be entertaining, and to hell with how it fit into anything else.

Of course, this played havoc with the Wolfman/Perez era of the Titans.  The team had finished creating a clean and sensible (and final) origin for Donna only to see it undone in the post-Crisis era.  Wolfman, at the end of Crisis, had devolved Diana back to the clay from which she&#039;d been formed which set up the Potter/Perez Wonder Woman to start fresh; unfortunately, the reboot didn&#039;t start in the post-Crisis DCU past while keeping the character firmly a part of the present (the way that Miller did with Batman putting the Year One events into a short story arc in the regular Batman title).  Potter and Perez opted for the Byrne-style by starting the character fresh without completely taking into account how the reboot would affect other titles (Byrne&#039;s decision that there&#039;d never been a Superboy meant the Legion&#039;s history had to be altered and by making Superman the only surviving Kryptonian created a continuity gaffe--Kara had sacrificed herself to prevent Kal&#039;s death but Kal was supposed to have been one of those who remembered the events of the Crisis but no non-Kryptonian was offered up to serve in Kara&#039;s stead to save Kal).  With the Wonder Woman reboot, there&#039;d been no thought how this would affect Donna Troy.  She couldn&#039;t have been &quot;inspired&quot; by the new Diana--she&#039;d already had a career as Wonder Girl BEFORE the new Diana made her official debut in the post-Crisis DCU; so she now got her powers as a result of having been brought up by the Titans of myth.

And even with this new origin, it wouldn&#039;t resolve the problems that had been caused by Haney&#039;s desire to tell some stories of the Justice League&#039;s &quot;sidekicks&quot; but felt there needed to be a female presence and chose a character who had been little more than an image in Hippolyta&#039;s magic viewscreen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I love Donna, I&#8217;m getting the idea that most of her &#8220;fans&#8221; (the ones doing the most griping about the death&#8211;which, at this point, we don&#8217;t even know if it&#8217;s going to stick) have forgotten that she&#8217;s actually a mistake.</p>
<p>The *original* Wonder Girl was actually a teenaged Diana.  Unfortunately, Bob Haney had not realized that the &#8220;Wonder Girl&#8221; who&#8217;d appeared in many of the late 1950s Wonder Woman comics written by Robert Kanigher was Diana.  Queen Hippolyta seemed to have a penchant for viewing things through a magic viewing screen, usually things that had happened in the past.  In some of these stories, she would recall things that Diana had done as a young girl/teenager, things that seemed to &#8220;prepare&#8221; Diana for her eventual role as Wonder Woman.  (Diana also had some adventures as a &#8220;Wonder Tot&#8221;.  These tales reflected the Superman history with Superboy&#8217;s adventures being &#8220;stories of Superman when he was a boy&#8221; as well as the wilder tales of him as a &#8220;Supertot.&#8221;)</p>
<p>There were a couple of these Hipployta viewscreen stories that might have influenced Haney&#8217;s idea of Wonder Girl being a separate character.  In them, Hippolyta, using some of that ol&#8217; Amazon magic, would &#8220;summon&#8221; Wonder Woman&#8217;s earlier selves into existence.  Typically, the reason would be rather benign (IMS, one story revolved around whether Hippolyta loved one particular Diana more than the others) but something would happen to create a life-and-death fight that could only be achieved with Hippolyta and the Wonder Daughters joining their forces to fight off the bad guy.  (To a degree, John Byrne played with this concept during his run on &#8220;Wonder Woman.&#8221;)</p>
<p>Of course, DC&#8217;s continuity was pretty lackluster during Silver Age period.  Each of the major characters&#8217; titles (Superman/Action, Batman/Detective, Wonder Woman) tended to ignore things that happened in the team-up books (Brave and the Bold, World&#8217;s Finest, Justice League of America) and vice-versa until the very late 1960s.  The Wonder Girl of the Teen Titans didn&#8217;t even get an origin (or a name) until several years after her first appearance with the Titans and all because Bob Haney was only interested in telling stories that he thought would be entertaining, and to hell with how it fit into anything else.</p>
<p>Of course, this played havoc with the Wolfman/Perez era of the Titans.  The team had finished creating a clean and sensible (and final) origin for Donna only to see it undone in the post-Crisis era.  Wolfman, at the end of Crisis, had devolved Diana back to the clay from which she&#8217;d been formed which set up the Potter/Perez Wonder Woman to start fresh; unfortunately, the reboot didn&#8217;t start in the post-Crisis DCU past while keeping the character firmly a part of the present (the way that Miller did with Batman putting the Year One events into a short story arc in the regular Batman title).  Potter and Perez opted for the Byrne-style by starting the character fresh without completely taking into account how the reboot would affect other titles (Byrne&#8217;s decision that there&#8217;d never been a Superboy meant the Legion&#8217;s history had to be altered and by making Superman the only surviving Kryptonian created a continuity gaffe&#8211;Kara had sacrificed herself to prevent Kal&#8217;s death but Kal was supposed to have been one of those who remembered the events of the Crisis but no non-Kryptonian was offered up to serve in Kara&#8217;s stead to save Kal).  With the Wonder Woman reboot, there&#8217;d been no thought how this would affect Donna Troy.  She couldn&#8217;t have been &#8220;inspired&#8221; by the new Diana&#8211;she&#8217;d already had a career as Wonder Girl BEFORE the new Diana made her official debut in the post-Crisis DCU; so she now got her powers as a result of having been brought up by the Titans of myth.</p>
<p>And even with this new origin, it wouldn&#8217;t resolve the problems that had been caused by Haney&#8217;s desire to tell some stories of the Justice League&#8217;s &#8220;sidekicks&#8221; but felt there needed to be a female presence and chose a character who had been little more than an image in Hippolyta&#8217;s magic viewscreen.</p>
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		<title>By: Hotshot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hotshot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 00:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is actually the third time she&#039;s bit it. Infinite Crisis and then Graduation Day with Titan&#039;s and Young Justice. She is DC&#039;s Jean Grey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is actually the third time she&#8217;s bit it. Infinite Crisis and then Graduation Day with Titan&#8217;s and Young Justice. She is DC&#8217;s Jean Grey.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 19:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a shame, I really like Donna Troy/Troia/Wonder Girl. And Aqualad/Tempest. I grew up on the original, groovy Teen Titans, and always hate to see them go. There are other less important characters they could get rid of, and what they did to Speedy/Arsenal?  Doesn&#039;t sound like a good idea to join the Titans. Great book and characters, but the editors/writers at DC don&#039;t seem to know what to do with them. Why don&#039;t they just write good stories about them for once.  No wonder Americans don&#039;t read or buy comics, it&#039;s way too confusing, and disappointing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a shame, I really like Donna Troy/Troia/Wonder Girl. And Aqualad/Tempest. I grew up on the original, groovy Teen Titans, and always hate to see them go. There are other less important characters they could get rid of, and what they did to Speedy/Arsenal?  Doesn&#8217;t sound like a good idea to join the Titans. Great book and characters, but the editors/writers at DC don&#8217;t seem to know what to do with them. Why don&#8217;t they just write good stories about them for once.  No wonder Americans don&#8217;t read or buy comics, it&#8217;s way too confusing, and disappointing.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why I gave up buying comics a few months ago.  After 30+ years, it was surprisingly easy.  Went cold turkey, and haven&#039;t regretted it for a second.  Seeing the various &quot;deaths&quot; announced since, has only reinforced that I made the right decision.  There are some talented writers out there, James Robinson included, but I just couldn&#039;t take it anymore.  No more disappointing &quot;big events,&quot; no more temporary killing of characters, no more paying $4 for 5 minutes worth of reading. For the first time since the 1970s, DC, Marvel, et al are not getting a dime of my money.  It&#039;s like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders.  I highly recommend it to others.  It&#039;s a lot easier than you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I gave up buying comics a few months ago.  After 30+ years, it was surprisingly easy.  Went cold turkey, and haven&#8217;t regretted it for a second.  Seeing the various &#8220;deaths&#8221; announced since, has only reinforced that I made the right decision.  There are some talented writers out there, James Robinson included, but I just couldn&#8217;t take it anymore.  No more disappointing &#8220;big events,&#8221; no more temporary killing of characters, no more paying $4 for 5 minutes worth of reading. For the first time since the 1970s, DC, Marvel, et al are not getting a dime of my money.  It&#8217;s like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders.  I highly recommend it to others.  It&#8217;s a lot easier than you think.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone else getting the feeling that the writers are trying really hard to make the current DC as unpleasent as possible in as little time as possible, so to make the actually-a-reboot-but-not-really-a-reboot-reboot, more appealing?

Lets see, we gave powergirl a secret ID (with red hair), we are having Red Robin get raped by a little girl, we&#039;ve killed of Donna Troy, We brought back Constantine, We broke the moon &amp; made the Phantom Strange a useless patsy character? An thats just in the last 30 days.

Wait till next month when you discover Wonder Womans dark secret (its very, crying games), find out that Star Man is not really gay, that DC purchased the rights to the Punisher &amp; that Lex Luthor is secretly in love with Ambush Bug.

Just FYI, one of those factoids is real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else getting the feeling that the writers are trying really hard to make the current DC as unpleasent as possible in as little time as possible, so to make the actually-a-reboot-but-not-really-a-reboot-reboot, more appealing?</p>
<p>Lets see, we gave powergirl a secret ID (with red hair), we are having Red Robin get raped by a little girl, we&#8217;ve killed of Donna Troy, We brought back Constantine, We broke the moon &amp; made the Phantom Strange a useless patsy character? An thats just in the last 30 days.</p>
<p>Wait till next month when you discover Wonder Womans dark secret (its very, crying games), find out that Star Man is not really gay, that DC purchased the rights to the Punisher &amp; that Lex Luthor is secretly in love with Ambush Bug.</p>
<p>Just FYI, one of those factoids is real.</p>
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		<title>By: Northstar-9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Northstar-9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She got killed by the Green Goblin? What is she gonna turn out to be his baby mama too? Damn... for an old guy with funky hair Norman gets a lot of play *sigh*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She got killed by the Green Goblin? What is she gonna turn out to be his baby mama too? Damn&#8230; for an old guy with funky hair Norman gets a lot of play *sigh*</p>
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		<title>By: Mikeptas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikeptas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 12:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eclipso: Who&#039;s next?
Donna: I not through with you!
E: I just stabbed you through your bloody heart!  You are dying!
D: Am not
E: Look at the blood!  Are too!
D: It&#039;s just a flesh wound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eclipso: Who&#8217;s next?<br />
Donna: I not through with you!<br />
E: I just stabbed you through your bloody heart!  You are dying!<br />
D: Am not<br />
E: Look at the blood!  Are too!<br />
D: It&#8217;s just a flesh wound.</p>
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		<title>By: ****</title>
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		<dc:creator>****</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 10:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, the classic cliché of &quot;crap writer tries to imbue his crap writing with gravitas by killing off a beloved character&quot;.  I think the rule should be that if you&#039;re responsible for the creation of at least one icon character then and only then should you be allowed to kill off someone else&#039;s icon character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, the classic cliché of &#8220;crap writer tries to imbue his crap writing with gravitas by killing off a beloved character&#8221;.  I think the rule should be that if you&#8217;re responsible for the creation of at least one icon character then and only then should you be allowed to kill off someone else&#8217;s icon character.</p>
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		<title>By: John Smith 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Smith 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 05:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the Resurrection Man comic will be for the purpose of writers scratching their itch of killing a character over and over again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the Resurrection Man comic will be for the purpose of writers scratching their itch of killing a character over and over again?</p>
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		<title>By: Red Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 00:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, yes, I&#039;m annoyed that they&#039;re apparently killing Donna Troy again...  Mostly because when you kill off a characters once, doing it again lacks ANY sort of impact.  And I&#039;m just annoyed that ever major plot has to require a character death.

But that being said, why does everyone here keep saying &quot;they keep killing Donna&quot; as if its an annual event or comparing her to Jean Grey?   She&#039;s died ONCE before now. Jean Grey has died a total of 18 times (if you include all the times Wolverine stabbed and killed her in Phoenix: Endsong, to which she immediately resurrected herself). Donna only died during &quot;Graduation Day&quot; and never before or after that until now.  Wonder Woman has died more times than Donna.  Calling her the Jean Grey of DC is completely false.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, yes, I&#8217;m annoyed that they&#8217;re apparently killing Donna Troy again&#8230;  Mostly because when you kill off a characters once, doing it again lacks ANY sort of impact.  And I&#8217;m just annoyed that ever major plot has to require a character death.</p>
<p>But that being said, why does everyone here keep saying &#8220;they keep killing Donna&#8221; as if its an annual event or comparing her to Jean Grey?   She&#8217;s died ONCE before now. Jean Grey has died a total of 18 times (if you include all the times Wolverine stabbed and killed her in Phoenix: Endsong, to which she immediately resurrected herself). Donna only died during &#8220;Graduation Day&#8221; and never before or after that until now.  Wonder Woman has died more times than Donna.  Calling her the Jean Grey of DC is completely false.</p>
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		<title>By: Kel-El</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kel-El</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 00:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do we really know that she&#039;s dead?
From the art, it could just as easily be a flesh-wound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we really know that she&#8217;s dead?<br />
From the art, it could just as easily be a flesh-wound.</p>
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		<title>By: Roland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 00:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s not dead.  There are two healers on the team.  The blue lantern will heal her.And people do care about these characters. You don&#039;t speak for everyone you know! Speak for yourselves here</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s not dead.  There are two healers on the team.  The blue lantern will heal her.And people do care about these characters. You don&#8217;t speak for everyone you know! Speak for yourselves here</p>
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		<title>By: JKW3000</title>
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		<dc:creator>JKW3000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 00:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given how much DC and Marvel seem to want to screw continuity and good characters, I&#039;d infinitely prefer reading a Donna Troy/Ultimate Peter Parker comic than whatever drivel they&#039;re planning to make to replace the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given how much DC and Marvel seem to want to screw continuity and good characters, I&#8217;d infinitely prefer reading a Donna Troy/Ultimate Peter Parker comic than whatever drivel they&#8217;re planning to make to replace the two.</p>
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		<title>By: fireface</title>
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		<dc:creator>fireface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 00:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should follow this up with a six issue mini called Donna Troy Rebirth.  Then they can kill her off again in issue six and follow it up with Donna Troy Rebirth II.  I think this is the only way for the &quot;death and rebirth&quot; plot cliche to become more of a mockery of itself.

I do like the idea of Eclipso killing off lame superheroes though.  Remember that Eclipso series from the early nineties?  It was pretty bad except for the fact that tons of really lame superheroes just seemed to get in line to be killed by Eclipso in that series.  Tons of characters nobody cared about getting masacred...  it was practically a Rob Liefeld book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should follow this up with a six issue mini called Donna Troy Rebirth.  Then they can kill her off again in issue six and follow it up with Donna Troy Rebirth II.  I think this is the only way for the &#8220;death and rebirth&#8221; plot cliche to become more of a mockery of itself.</p>
<p>I do like the idea of Eclipso killing off lame superheroes though.  Remember that Eclipso series from the early nineties?  It was pretty bad except for the fact that tons of really lame superheroes just seemed to get in line to be killed by Eclipso in that series.  Tons of characters nobody cared about getting masacred&#8230;  it was practically a Rob Liefeld book.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 00:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While we&#039;re at it, can we &quot;jason todd&quot; Jason Todd?

Judd Winick and Grant Morrison.  Two guys who have returned Batman to the stupid days of The Silver Age.

And none of that is getting re-booted.

But, we get seams, knee-pads and codpieces.

Oh, and turtlenecks.

It&#039;s NU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we&#8217;re at it, can we &#8220;jason todd&#8221; Jason Todd?</p>
<p>Judd Winick and Grant Morrison.  Two guys who have returned Batman to the stupid days of The Silver Age.</p>
<p>And none of that is getting re-booted.</p>
<p>But, we get seams, knee-pads and codpieces.</p>
<p>Oh, and turtlenecks.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s NU.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 00:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;ll be the new Eclipso.

Or maybe the new Batman.  Is she the last DC character who hasn&#039;t worn Bruce Wayne&#039;s work clothes?

I&#039;ve got a question...who came up with this &quot;DCnu&quot; name?  NU.  NEW.  Really?  Is it a Twitter thing?  One letter?

Better question...why are we all going along with it?

Whoever voted up there to &quot;jason todd&quot; Damien...I wish YOU had Dan Didio&#039;s job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;ll be the new Eclipso.</p>
<p>Or maybe the new Batman.  Is she the last DC character who hasn&#8217;t worn Bruce Wayne&#8217;s work clothes?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a question&#8230;who came up with this &#8220;DCnu&#8221; name?  NU.  NEW.  Really?  Is it a Twitter thing?  One letter?</p>
<p>Better question&#8230;why are we all going along with it?</p>
<p>Whoever voted up there to &#8220;jason todd&#8221; Damien&#8230;I wish YOU had Dan Didio&#8217;s job.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Matthy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Matthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does DC feel the need to constantly $#!^ on Donna? What horrific changes to her origin will come with the reboot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does DC feel the need to constantly $#!^ on Donna? What horrific changes to her origin will come with the reboot?</p>
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		<title>By: mk</title>
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		<dc:creator>mk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donna Troy is the most confusing character there is. Fine by me. Let&#039;s try and reboot her with some sense to her origin now. Please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donna Troy is the most confusing character there is. Fine by me. Let&#8217;s try and reboot her with some sense to her origin now. Please.</p>
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		<title>By: K-Box</title>
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		<dc:creator>K-Box</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The writers won’t be writing terrible stories cause they will be returning to the Iconic characters we have always known and loved.&quot;

Except that, according to several people, JMS included, this is an editorially driven reboot, overseen by Dan DiDio, the man most responsible for dragging these characters away from their iconic status quos in the first place.  How many times does Lucy have to pull away the football before you stop saying to yourself, &quot;Okay, all the other line-wide stories this guy spearheaded were crap, but THIS one will be good&quot;?  Past a certain point, it&#039;s actually a defect in character to put any of your faith into such a proven failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The writers won’t be writing terrible stories cause they will be returning to the Iconic characters we have always known and loved.&#8221;</p>
<p>Except that, according to several people, JMS included, this is an editorially driven reboot, overseen by Dan DiDio, the man most responsible for dragging these characters away from their iconic status quos in the first place.  How many times does Lucy have to pull away the football before you stop saying to yourself, &#8220;Okay, all the other line-wide stories this guy spearheaded were crap, but THIS one will be good&#8221;?  Past a certain point, it&#8217;s actually a defect in character to put any of your faith into such a proven failure.</p>
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		<title>By: randypan the goatboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>randypan the goatboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She dies in the issue because killing characters sells comics ...in 1996. today not so much, but back then it would have been ...like what?awwww no. not Donna who cares, dc is in a lame duck holding pattern untill september</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She dies in the issue because killing characters sells comics &#8230;in 1996. today not so much, but back then it would have been &#8230;like what?awwww no. not Donna who cares, dc is in a lame duck holding pattern untill september</p>
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		<title>By: Weber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was not surprised or shocked at this ending, since i believe the members of the JLA are all phonies from Earth-53, which explains the ooc that Robinson writes for everyone who isnt an ape or is blue. Would also explain all the random bs he keeps pulling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was not surprised or shocked at this ending, since i believe the members of the JLA are all phonies from Earth-53, which explains the ooc that Robinson writes for everyone who isnt an ape or is blue. Would also explain all the random bs he keeps pulling.</p>
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		<title>By: Beewaxghost</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2011/06/23/spoilers-dcs-surprise-ending-to-jla-58-may-explain-a-missing-character-in-the-relaunch/comment-page-1/#comment-643533</link>
		<dc:creator>Beewaxghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DC is always killing Donna( we know she&#039;ll be back, give it 6 to 8 months...top !) No one over in  DC  know how to write for Donna Troy is for now dead is better !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DC is always killing Donna( we know she&#8217;ll be back, give it 6 to 8 months&#8230;top !) No one over in  DC  know how to write for Donna Troy is for now dead is better !</p>
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		<title>By: heffison</title>
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		<dc:creator>heffison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like Donna might not be totally done for here, but I am wondering if we&#039;re going to see a frenzy of shock moments, deaths at the top of the list, because there&#039;s nothing they do now that can&#039;t be fixed with the &quot;relaunch of some, reboot of others&quot; event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like Donna might not be totally done for here, but I am wondering if we&#8217;re going to see a frenzy of shock moments, deaths at the top of the list, because there&#8217;s nothing they do now that can&#8217;t be fixed with the &#8220;relaunch of some, reboot of others&#8221; event.</p>
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		<title>By: BraveDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>BraveDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok so we got one cool thing out of Donna Troy&#039;s 3rd death.
Coming 2012:
Robocop, Axecop and Beverly Hills Cop. Justice League Awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok so we got one cool thing out of Donna Troy&#8217;s 3rd death.<br />
Coming 2012:<br />
Robocop, Axecop and Beverly Hills Cop. Justice League Awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: beane2099</title>
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		<dc:creator>beane2099</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Black Robocop.&quot;  That almost made my oatmeal come out my nose.  Few people probably even remember this but there actually WAS a black robocop.  He was Murphy&#039;s old partner and his name was Cable (I&#039;m totally not kidding).  You want to see classic dialogue, try watching two robocops have a conversation.  

On the DCnU thing, I really wish that instead of Cyborg they had gone with a couple Milestone characters on the JLA (I&#039;m pretty sure you&#039;re allowed to have more than one non-white character on the team).  I harp on this, but am I the only one that would rather see Icon on the JLA?  Hell, keep Cyborg.  I don&#039;t care.  But Icon would have been a better replacement for Martian Manhunter.  Just sayin&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Black Robocop.&#8221;  That almost made my oatmeal come out my nose.  Few people probably even remember this but there actually WAS a black robocop.  He was Murphy&#8217;s old partner and his name was Cable (I&#8217;m totally not kidding).  You want to see classic dialogue, try watching two robocops have a conversation.  </p>
<p>On the DCnU thing, I really wish that instead of Cyborg they had gone with a couple Milestone characters on the JLA (I&#8217;m pretty sure you&#8217;re allowed to have more than one non-white character on the team).  I harp on this, but am I the only one that would rather see Icon on the JLA?  Hell, keep Cyborg.  I don&#8217;t care.  But Icon would have been a better replacement for Martian Manhunter.  Just sayin&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: mckracken</title>
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		<dc:creator>mckracken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wish axe cop would be in the Dcu-new.

he could chop off the heads of all the bad guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wish axe cop would be in the Dcu-new.</p>
<p>he could chop off the heads of all the bad guys.</p>
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		<title>By: CDickerson</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2011/06/23/spoilers-dcs-surprise-ending-to-jla-58-may-explain-a-missing-character-in-the-relaunch/comment-page-1/#comment-643519</link>
		<dc:creator>CDickerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Donna Troy dying is a key factor in all this?</description>
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