She died so that Starman can find her costume and use it in the future.

…Actually, I have this horrible feeling Donna Troy won’t make the reboot but Terry Long will. Somehow.

Hate the idea of them killing off Donna – they should leave her alone!

What a novel idea!

REALLY DC? You’re going to kill off Donna Troy AGAIN? This isn’t shocking, its not inventive. It’s cliche and annoying. Kill off characters that fans like does not make for good storytelling when you do it ALL THE TIME.

And can you please stop using James Robinson as your all-around character execution writer? He’s not a bad writer, but he keeps having to write stories that fans don’t like. Its not fair to him.

k. but robocop is like 2 billion times squared cooler.

If DC wants to streamline and lose confusing and redundant characters, offing Donna Troy is a good start.

@Cisco Kid

Or one of the 10,000 Robins.

@John Smith

It means it’s Wednesday.

@mckracken @Lawrence I think I read that Robocop was based on Deathlock … I am missing the point of this tread aren’t I?

Gueststarring Maniac Cop!!

The number 1 reason why she’s not actually dead in the DCU?
Eclipso doesn’t own a refrigerator.

Seriously, Eclipso didn’t kill her. She’ll somehow unleash her “inner God light” or whatever the hell Saint Walker is talking about and stop Eclipso. It’ll lead to her retirement or merging with the moon (she was once married to the Titan God of the moon, after all) to fix it and be powerless or be cured of her Sailor Mouth Syndrome and go off to “find out what it means to be me again” or some nonsensical BS. “Flimsy & convenient” logic is the theme of this badly written title.

Saint Walker just happens to sense that Donna has some inner God light that will stop eclipso? Um… where does that come from? The expression is “out of the blue” not “out of the Blue Lantern.”

Donna Troy a.k.a Nameless lass is to DC what Kenny is to South Park.

Couldn’t care less about this character. Keep her dead in the DCnU. Give me more Wonder Girl.

@Richard Your complaint about too many DC death and reboots after yesterdays Marvel news is just hilarious.

@Richard

I love when people complain about the lazy writing of stories that aren’t even written yet.

Maybe Donna Troy dying is a key factor in all this?

“Black Robocop.” That almost made my oatmeal come out my nose. Few people probably even remember this but there actually WAS a black robocop. He was Murphy’s old partner and his name was Cable (I’m totally not kidding). You want to see classic dialogue, try watching two robocops have a conversation.

On the DCnU thing, I really wish that instead of Cyborg they had gone with a couple Milestone characters on the JLA (I’m pretty sure you’re allowed to have more than one non-white character on the team). I harp on this, but am I the only one that would rather see Icon on the JLA? Hell, keep Cyborg. I don’t care. But Icon would have been a better replacement for Martian Manhunter. Just sayin’

It sounds like Donna might not be totally done for here, but I am wondering if we’re going to see a frenzy of shock moments, deaths at the top of the list, because there’s nothing they do now that can’t be fixed with the “relaunch of some, reboot of others” event.

Was not surprised or shocked at this ending, since i believe the members of the JLA are all phonies from Earth-53, which explains the ooc that Robinson writes for everyone who isnt an ape or is blue. Would also explain all the random bs he keeps pulling.

“The writers won’t be writing terrible stories cause they will be returning to the Iconic characters we have always known and loved.”

Except that, according to several people, JMS included, this is an editorially driven reboot, overseen by Dan DiDio, the man most responsible for dragging these characters away from their iconic status quos in the first place. How many times does Lucy have to pull away the football before you stop saying to yourself, “Okay, all the other line-wide stories this guy spearheaded were crap, but THIS one will be good”? Past a certain point, it’s actually a defect in character to put any of your faith into such a proven failure.

Why does DC feel the need to constantly $#!^ on Donna? What horrific changes to her origin will come with the reboot?

While we’re at it, can we “jason todd” Jason Todd?

Judd Winick and Grant Morrison. Two guys who have returned Batman to the stupid days of The Silver Age.

And none of that is getting re-booted.

But, we get seams, knee-pads and codpieces.

Oh, and turtlenecks.

It’s NU.

Given how much DC and Marvel seem to want to screw continuity and good characters, I’d infinitely prefer reading a Donna Troy/Ultimate Peter Parker comic than whatever drivel they’re planning to make to replace the two.

Do we really know that she’s dead?
From the art, it could just as easily be a flesh-wound.

I wonder if the Resurrection Man comic will be for the purpose of writers scratching their itch of killing a character over and over again?

Eclipso: Who’s next?
Donna: I not through with you!
E: I just stabbed you through your bloody heart! You are dying!
D: Am not
E: Look at the blood! Are too!
D: It’s just a flesh wound.

Anyone else getting the feeling that the writers are trying really hard to make the current DC as unpleasent as possible in as little time as possible, so to make the actually-a-reboot-but-not-really-a-reboot-reboot, more appealing?

Lets see, we gave powergirl a secret ID (with red hair), we are having Red Robin get raped by a little girl, we’ve killed of Donna Troy, We brought back Constantine, We broke the moon & made the Phantom Strange a useless patsy character? An thats just in the last 30 days.

Wait till next month when you discover Wonder Womans dark secret (its very, crying games), find out that Star Man is not really gay, that DC purchased the rights to the Punisher & that Lex Luthor is secretly in love with Ambush Bug.

Just FYI, one of those factoids is real.

It’s a shame, I really like Donna Troy/Troia/Wonder Girl. And Aqualad/Tempest. I grew up on the original, groovy Teen Titans, and always hate to see them go. There are other less important characters they could get rid of, and what they did to Speedy/Arsenal? Doesn’t sound like a good idea to join the Titans. Great book and characters, but the editors/writers at DC don’t seem to know what to do with them. Why don’t they just write good stories about them for once. No wonder Americans don’t read or buy comics, it’s way too confusing, and disappointing.

While I love Donna, I’m getting the idea that most of her “fans” (the ones doing the most griping about the death–which, at this point, we don’t even know if it’s going to stick) have forgotten that she’s actually a mistake.

The *original* Wonder Girl was actually a teenaged Diana. Unfortunately, Bob Haney had not realized that the “Wonder Girl” who’d appeared in many of the late 1950s Wonder Woman comics written by Robert Kanigher was Diana. Queen Hippolyta seemed to have a penchant for viewing things through a magic viewing screen, usually things that had happened in the past. In some of these stories, she would recall things that Diana had done as a young girl/teenager, things that seemed to “prepare” Diana for her eventual role as Wonder Woman. (Diana also had some adventures as a “Wonder Tot”. These tales reflected the Superman history with Superboy’s adventures being “stories of Superman when he was a boy” as well as the wilder tales of him as a “Supertot.”)

There were a couple of these Hipployta viewscreen stories that might have influenced Haney’s idea of Wonder Girl being a separate character. In them, Hippolyta, using some of that ol’ Amazon magic, would “summon” Wonder Woman’s earlier selves into existence. Typically, the reason would be rather benign (IMS, one story revolved around whether Hippolyta loved one particular Diana more than the others) but something would happen to create a life-and-death fight that could only be achieved with Hippolyta and the Wonder Daughters joining their forces to fight off the bad guy. (To a degree, John Byrne played with this concept during his run on “Wonder Woman.”)

Of course, DC’s continuity was pretty lackluster during Silver Age period. Each of the major characters’ titles (Superman/Action, Batman/Detective, Wonder Woman) tended to ignore things that happened in the team-up books (Brave and the Bold, World’s Finest, Justice League of America) and vice-versa until the very late 1960s. The Wonder Girl of the Teen Titans didn’t even get an origin (or a name) until several years after her first appearance with the Titans and all because Bob Haney was only interested in telling stories that he thought would be entertaining, and to hell with how it fit into anything else.

Of course, this played havoc with the Wolfman/Perez era of the Titans. The team had finished creating a clean and sensible (and final) origin for Donna only to see it undone in the post-Crisis era. Wolfman, at the end of Crisis, had devolved Diana back to the clay from which she’d been formed which set up the Potter/Perez Wonder Woman to start fresh; unfortunately, the reboot didn’t start in the post-Crisis DCU past while keeping the character firmly a part of the present (the way that Miller did with Batman putting the Year One events into a short story arc in the regular Batman title). Potter and Perez opted for the Byrne-style by starting the character fresh without completely taking into account how the reboot would affect other titles (Byrne’s decision that there’d never been a Superboy meant the Legion’s history had to be altered and by making Superman the only surviving Kryptonian created a continuity gaffe–Kara had sacrificed herself to prevent Kal’s death but Kal was supposed to have been one of those who remembered the events of the Crisis but no non-Kryptonian was offered up to serve in Kara’s stead to save Kal). With the Wonder Woman reboot, there’d been no thought how this would affect Donna Troy. She couldn’t have been “inspired” by the new Diana–she’d already had a career as Wonder Girl BEFORE the new Diana made her official debut in the post-Crisis DCU; so she now got her powers as a result of having been brought up by the Titans of myth.

And even with this new origin, it wouldn’t resolve the problems that had been caused by Haney’s desire to tell some stories of the Justice League’s “sidekicks” but felt there needed to be a female presence and chose a character who had been little more than an image in Hippolyta’s magic viewscreen.

I do believe all of the ideas you have offered for your post. They’re really convincing and will certainly work. Nonetheless, the posts are very short for starters. Could you please extend them a little from subsequent time? Thank you for the post.