Because you said:

“Why do you assume that those of us who….”

And:

“We can’t like these….”

And:

“But a lot of us think….”

And:

“A lot of us don’t like…”

That’s one of the problems I have about comic fans: they attempt to speak for everyone else besides themselves. You can’t pick and choose when you want to do this. Just make it easier on yourself, and just say “*I* don’t like such-n-such”. You reduce the need to eat crow that way.

“So because no one suggested that these creators should get regular gigs, that means none of us think that? When commenting on an article about the one shots? That doesn’t make an ounce of sense.”

If it doesn’t make sense, then why was I the only person that actually suggested it? My mother didn’t give birth to a mind reader, and I wouldn’t have suggested it, if I’d seen that somebody else had mentioned it before me (except maybe to co-sign).

“Why would I want to read bad stories by characters I like? Of course I follow creators, if I didn’t, I would be reading anything that happens to feature a character I like, no matter the quality. That’s insane.”

Oh, so now you are saying “I” instead of “we”? Nice. However, only following certain creators doesn’t automatically mean that anything that creator didn’t make “bad”. Now THAT’S what’s insane.

“For that matter, if you only follow characters, then what’s wrong with people who follow Wally West wanting a book like this? It’s been over 2 year since Barry returned. By your own admission, you’d be reading this book, too, regardless of the creative team, if you were a Wally West fan.”

By “my own admission”, I’m a FLASH fan, not just a Wally fan. I thought I’d made that clear in my initial response about Wally.

“The Big Two’s reliance on nostalgia isn’t just limited to reprints. Look at all the books that Chris Claremont has been given, picking up where he left off on X-Men? They did the same thing with the other X-books, too.”

Interesting that you mention Claremont and the X-Men. This is the poorest example that you could’ve used. Did you actually read his last run on those books? That stuff wasn’t his best.

Also, someone here mentioned Mark Waid, and how his latest attempts at DC were a fail as well. This is what happens when you hold onto nostalgia.

“Unfortunately, I truly doubt most of these legendary creators could get regular work because tastes change. It’s the nature of comics. What is popular in one decade isn’t necessarily popular in the next…but that doesn’t mean there aren’t people out there who don’t still want those types of stories, and so we get one shots like this.”

So, is this you changing horses in the middle of the race here? Because that’s been my entire point the whole time. That’s why it’s pointless to stay stuck on those creator’s glory days.

I’m a Green Lantern fan, but not (just) because of Geoff Johns. I’m also a fan of the Big 7 JLA, but not (just) because of Grant Morrison. I’m just waiting for someone (anyone) to put that band back together. It really doesn’t matter who it is.

“I would say the fact that you read 90-95% of what DC publishes and decide you need to complain about the other 5-10% does, in fact, make you a whiner.”

Dude, c’mon… You’re just saying stuff, just to be saying it. You know as well as I do, that didn’t make a bit of sense. I’m happy, so what on earth do I have to whine about?? If I’m to assume that you are in the opposite category from me (and it’s obvious that you are; you only like one iteration of a character, and from one creator(s), and from one time period), then you’re the one that’s not content, and thus are the whiner.

So because no one suggested that these creators should get regular gigs, that means none of us think that? When commenting on an article about the one shots? That doesn’t make an ounce of sense.

Why would I want to read bad stories by characters I like? Of course I follow creators, if I didn’t, I would be reading anything that happens to feature a character I like, no matter the quality. That’s insane.

For that matter, if you only follow characters, then what’s wrong with people who follow Wally West wanting a book like this? It’s been over 2 year since Barry returned. By your own admission, you’d be reading this book, too, regardless of the creative team, if you were a Wally West fan.

The Big Two’s reliance on nostalgia isn’t just limited to reprints. Look at all the books that Chris Claremont has been given, picking up where he left off on X-Men? They did the same thing with the other X-books, too.

Unfortunately, I truly doubt most of these legendary creators could get regular work because tastes change. It’s the nature of comics. What is popular in one decade isn’t necessarily popular in the next…but that doesn’t mean there aren’t people out there who don’t still want those types of stories, and so we get one shots like this.

I would say the fact that you read 90-95% of what DC publishes and decide you need to complain about the other 5-10% does, in fact, make you a whiner.

“@Samurai36 Why do you assume that those of us who are excited about these creators aren’t also clamoring for them to get regular books? We can’t like these one shots AND want them on regular books?”

Hmmm, maybe because no one here (except for me) actually suggested such a notion? No one’s a mind reader.

“Is it nostalgia? Sure, to a certain extent. But a lot of us think Norm Breyfogle is one of the best Batman artists of all time. A lot of us don’t like how Wally West got hosed for the resurrection of white bread. And given that the JLI is getting a new title, the Justice League in the 90′s title is pretty current.”

I don’t get caught up (for the most part) in artists and writers. I’m all about books and characters. That’s a sure-fire way to stay stuck in the nostalgic past.

It’s like saying “I’m a Michael Jordan” fan, instead of saying “I’m a Bulls Fan”.

I like Wally as much as the next guy, but I also like Barry too. I could tell you to “give it time, that something will happen with Wally”…. But I get the feeling you (and others) are not trying to hear that.

“Both of the Big Two know they have a certain level of guaranteed sales when it comes to nostalgia books, so we will always get titles like this. It’s also entirely possible that, if one of these titles does really well, we could see the creative team move to something more regular.”

Sure, they do the “Absolutes”, and the “Omnibuses” all the time. But I don’t think it’s as simple as these books doing well, and the creators will get more work. These people are damn-near legends in the business. Don’t you think if they wanted more work, they could get it from one publisher or another? Not that I know personally, but I’m just curious, who called who: did they call DC, or did DC call them?

“So stop whining and let people enjoy what they enjoy.”

LOL at me “whining”…. Says the guy that said:

“A lot of us don’t like how Wally West got hosed for the resurrection of white bread.”

And others on here said:

“What’s not amazing is DC being too much PC these days to let a character/writer express an opinion about injustice.”

and:

“It’s a bit of a slap in the face for Wally West fans. Especially considering how poorly Dan D-Bag DiDio & his lapdogs have treated Wally & his fans with their SA resurgence crap and the return of Boring Allen.

God I hate Dan DiDio”

Are you prepared to defend all this, too? Otherwise, good morning pot… What color is your kettle?

Besides, it’s wholly inaccurate to call me a “whiner”. I gladly collect and read 90-95% of DC. This Retro stuff just happens to fall in the 5-10% category that I don’t read.

How much can you say you read at present?

Is it nostalgia? Sure, to a certain extent. But a lot of us think Norm Breyfogle is one of the best Batman artists of all time. A lot of us don’t like how Wally West got hosed for the resurrection of white bread. And given that the JLI is getting a new title, the Justice League in the 90′s title is pretty current.

Both of the Big Two know they have a certain level of guaranteed sales when it comes to nostalgia books, so we will always get titles like this. It’s also entirely possible that, if one of these titles does really well, we could see the creative team move to something more regular.

So stop whining and let people enjoy what they enjoy.

·Batman – Bit iffy – I loved the Grant/Breyfogle run. But Scarface? I hate the broken nose, spelling issue On the bright side, at least they’re not using Anarky. We’ll see.”

Dude, put down the pipe. Anarky was amazing. What’s not amazing is DC being too much PC these days to let a character/writer express an opinion about injustice. I wish they would give Alan and Norm the copyright of the character so they could keep making new, poignant stories.

I hate the “RetroActive” title (it doesn’t sound respectful somehow), but I’ll take what I can get.

God I hate Dan DiDio

What’s the deal with this?

I just can’t see what DC is hoping to achieve with this. Is it to gain new readers? You don’t do that by showing them the past; you give them an interesting present and future.

Is it to long time readers one last nostalgic moment? Wow, so these are the exact same stories, by the exact same creative teams. Don’t you think that’s redundant?

It happens all the time: Nostalgia in small doses is fine, but anything beyond that keeps you stuck in the past, and prevents you from appreciating the present.

It’s the same thing with music, that’s why, even though i like the old stuff, I try not to gorge myself with it, because it would make me not bother with seeking out some of the new stuff that’s great too.

So, I say focus on FlashPoint and beyond, and go back to your back issues from time to time, if you want that nostalgic feeling.

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JLA – thats a no brainer. But I agree with you about Morrison/Porter for the 90′s and Giffen/DeMatteis/Maguire for the 80′s. That would be amazing! One more Morrison JLA story!

Green Lantern – Marz/Banks on Kyle again? Love it! GL #51 was my first GL issue so this is gold!

Batman – Bit iffy – I loved the Grant/Breyfogle run. But Scarface? I hate the broken nose, spelling issue On the bright side, at least they’re not using Anarky. We’ll see.

And I may get Superman too. Bogdanove?!? Yay!

Mike Deodato has been with Marvel for years. Perez is known for relanching WW not working with Loebs, and the others you mention are not bigger names than Paris.

On another note it is good to that Banks will be drawing Kyle again.

I have been reading comics way to long since most of these I am really looking forward to.

Alan Grant and artist Norm Breyfogle on an new Batman story is something I never thought I would see again. Welcome back guys.

and Paris cullins? not mike deodato? george Perez? jill thompson”? lee moder? mike deodato… yoyu choose the least liked 6 issues of the run?

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