Comments on: Agent of S.T.Y.L.E.: The Justice League of BATMAN BEYOND http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/ The Blog@ Team and prominent comics personalities share what’s on their minds. Wed, 19 Jun 2013 04:00:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Good updated lol news site http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-696047 Good updated lol news site Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:01:52 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-696047 Thanks for any other fantastic post. Where else could anybody get that kind of information in such a perfect manner of writing? I have a presentation subsequent week, and I'm on the search for such info. Thanks for any other fantastic post. Where else could anybody get that kind of information in such a perfect manner of writing? I have a presentation subsequent week, and I’m on the search for such info.

]]> By: Alan Kistler http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-527101 Alan Kistler Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:07:03 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-527101 thomas: Right, but I had never talked about Aquagirl before. I did talk about Barda's outfit before, as I pointed out, and for this I wouldn't have had anything new to say since it was the same outfit. Brightest Day: Sure, but knowing where it came from isn't the same as justifying its look for someone who has primarily been about hope. thomas: Right, but I had never talked about Aquagirl before. I did talk about Barda’s outfit before, as I pointed out, and for this I wouldn’t have had anything new to say since it was the same outfit.

Brightest Day: Sure, but knowing where it came from isn’t the same as justifying its look for someone who has primarily been about hope.

]]> By: Mike Norris http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-527078 Mike Norris Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:17:51 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-527078 Well it might be what a guy going for a swim would wear. (Though even some swimming racers have opted for bodysuits) But someone who lives underwater could have a different take. There might be issues of warmth, protection and even fashion that would't be covered by a pair of speedos. Namor was usually underdressed even compared to other Marvel Universe Atlanteans. And Marvel has often tried to put more clothes on him. His latest look is a variation on his black costume form the 70s.With only his arms and part of his chest exposed. Well it might be what a guy going for a swim would wear. (Though even some swimming racers have opted for bodysuits) But someone who lives underwater could have a different take. There might be issues of warmth, protection and even fashion that would’t be covered by a pair of speedos. Namor was usually underdressed even compared to other Marvel Universe Atlanteans. And Marvel has often tried to put more clothes on him. His latest look is a variation on his black costume form the 70s.With only his arms and part of his chest exposed.

]]> By: Brightest Day http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-527071 Brightest Day Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:34:35 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-527071 Also, as far as the Aquagirl costume goes, I think that probably the result of Dini and Timm deciding that Mera and Aquaman wearing full-body, scaled suits when operating underwater is fairly ridiculous and, without coming right out and saying it, letting viewers know that the minimalist, swimsuit-esque costume is what a real water-based hero would wear. I'm a big fan of Aquaman, but we all have to admit that he should probably dress more like Namor and less like Superman or Batman. Also, as far as the Aquagirl costume goes, I think that probably the result of Dini and Timm deciding that Mera and Aquaman wearing full-body, scaled suits when operating underwater is fairly ridiculous and, without coming right out and saying it, letting viewers know that the minimalist, swimsuit-esque costume is what a real water-based hero would wear.

I’m a big fan of Aquaman, but we all have to admit that he should probably dress more like Namor and less like Superman or Batman.

]]> By: Brightest Day http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-527070 Brightest Day Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:30:37 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-527070 Alan, couldn't the reason for Superman's black and white costume be that it is a combination of his Kingdom Come look and his Kryptonian Life Suit that we've seen before (black and white)? That would fit with what you already pointed out -- that the Beyond Superman suit pays homage to his Kryptonian roots. Alan, couldn’t the reason for Superman’s black and white costume be that it is a combination of his Kingdom Come look and his Kryptonian Life Suit that we’ve seen before (black and white)? That would fit with what you already pointed out — that the Beyond Superman suit pays homage to his Kryptonian roots.

]]> By: Miles http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526880 Miles Tue, 26 Oct 2010 03:18:40 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526880 As always, a terrific article! Perhaps the other readers asking about Barda did not watch the show, and thus didn't know the name of the "woman in red?" Just giving an out! As always, a terrific article!

Perhaps the other readers asking about Barda did not watch the show, and thus didn’t know the name of the “woman in red?” Just giving an out!

]]> By: Mike Norris http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526862 Mike Norris Tue, 26 Oct 2010 01:35:06 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526862 I think Micron's full mask is a nod to the original Atom, who sported a similar mask. Not seeing a Kirby influence there. I think Micron’s full mask is a nod to the original Atom, who sported a similar mask. Not seeing a Kirby influence there.

]]> By: thomas http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526861 thomas Tue, 26 Oct 2010 01:20:50 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526861 alan- i understand it was just that aqua girl was just basically "wearin a swimsuit" as well and she got an entry ;) I still love these articles. it is always great to see a person's dif costumes dissected alan- i understand it was just that aqua girl was just basically “wearin a swimsuit” as well and she got an entry ;)

I still love these articles. it is always great to see a person’s dif costumes dissected

]]> By: Hugo Sleestak http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526859 Hugo Sleestak Tue, 26 Oct 2010 00:57:18 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526859 The Superman costume looks a lot like the body suit Superman wore right after he died and "got better," if anyone remembers the early 1990's. Micron's mask reminds me a lot of the mask worn by the golden age Atom, back when the Atom was just a short guy who kicked butt and took names. Barda ... the Jack Kirby character who taught me, at the age of eight, that big girls were better! The Superman costume looks a lot like the body suit Superman wore right after he died and “got better,” if anyone remembers the early 1990′s.

Micron’s mask reminds me a lot of the mask worn by the golden age Atom, back when the Atom was just a short guy who kicked butt and took names.

Barda … the Jack Kirby character who taught me, at the age of eight, that big girls were better!

]]> By: Alan Kistler http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526846 Alan Kistler Mon, 25 Oct 2010 23:04:49 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526846 RunnerX13: I'd agree except that in each interview they've had on the matter, Paul Dini and Bruce Timm said that the design was just to make it sleek and more Kryptonian. If they'd intended for it to symbolize that Lois was dead and it had affected Clark, I think they would've mentioned that at some point or briefly referenced it in the episode. In any event, it doesn't change my judgement based on what we saw in "The Call." RunnerX13: I’d agree except that in each interview they’ve had on the matter, Paul Dini and Bruce Timm said that the design was just to make it sleek and more Kryptonian. If they’d intended for it to symbolize that Lois was dead and it had affected Clark, I think they would’ve mentioned that at some point or briefly referenced it in the episode. In any event, it doesn’t change my judgement based on what we saw in “The Call.”

]]> By: RunnerX13 http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526743 RunnerX13 Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:33:04 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526743 @Alan Kistler: That's not to say they didn't have the idea that Lois has died, which influenced them creating the black suit. @Alan Kistler: That’s not to say they didn’t have the idea that Lois has died, which influenced them creating the black suit.

]]> By: Alan Kistler http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526625 Alan Kistler Mon, 25 Oct 2010 01:30:06 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526625 Augusto: That idea was written and published ten years LATER in a comic book. So while that can bring some light to it in a retroactive sense, it had nothing to do with the design when it was made, hence why I didn't use it as an explanation or justification for the dark colors. Phil K.: No problem. Augusto: That idea was written and published ten years LATER in a comic book. So while that can bring some light to it in a retroactive sense, it had nothing to do with the design when it was made, hence why I didn’t use it as an explanation or justification for the dark colors.

Phil K.: No problem.

]]> By: Phil K. http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526591 Phil K. Sun, 24 Oct 2010 22:03:17 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526591 Thanks for the answer Alan. Thanks for the answer Alan.

]]> By: Augusto http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526520 Augusto Sun, 24 Oct 2010 16:46:20 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526520 I was thinking, maybe Supes black suit is because he's a widow man... I was thinking, maybe Supes black suit is because he’s a widow man…

]]> By: Alan Kistler http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526384 Alan Kistler Sun, 24 Oct 2010 07:12:34 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526384 Matheias: Definitely something to explore in the future. Shamon from the Bronx NY: Thank YOU. DaVeO: I haven't. Perhaps in the future. Eddie Young: Yes, but that has nothing to do with his costume or stylistic design. Michael: No, it's not. The evil counterpart he had was in an episode that aired 3 years later on a different series. "The Call" did feature mind-control, but that happened only AFTER he'd been wearing the black and white suit for some time. Skyhawk: I'm not sure what you're talking about. What does Namora have to do with Batman Beyond? Phil K: Superman/Batman Annual #4 Matheias: Definitely something to explore in the future.

Shamon from the Bronx NY: Thank YOU.

DaVeO: I haven’t. Perhaps in the future.

Eddie Young: Yes, but that has nothing to do with his costume or stylistic design.

Michael: No, it’s not. The evil counterpart he had was in an episode that aired 3 years later on a different series. “The Call” did feature mind-control, but that happened only AFTER he’d been wearing the black and white suit for some time.

Skyhawk: I’m not sure what you’re talking about. What does Namora have to do with Batman Beyond?

Phil K: Superman/Batman Annual #4

]]> By: Alan Kistler http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526383 Alan Kistler Sun, 24 Oct 2010 07:07:49 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526383 Will Mahoney: Sorry, but in "The Call", it is shown in flashback that he was wearing that black and white suit BEFORE Starro showed up, so that explanation doesn't fly. Crusader K: I wouldn't put it past DC. Who knows? James Lynch: In a behind the scenes video, Paul Dini (who designed Warhawk) specifically said "I wanted to do a Hawkman-type character, then I thought, you know, it's futuristic so let's give him like metallic wings and a, you know, hard edged look." No mention was made of Hawk and Dove there. The "Once and Future Thing" was not even an idea yet and would not be storyboarded or scripted until over almost four years later and would not be aired until five years after "The Call" had aired, so its plot points were not a factor in "The Call." If you don't believe me about Dini's remarks, watch the interview here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca-VNfl3wBM Will Mahoney: Sorry, but in “The Call”, it is shown in flashback that he was wearing that black and white suit BEFORE Starro showed up, so that explanation doesn’t fly.

Crusader K: I wouldn’t put it past DC. Who knows?

James Lynch: In a behind the scenes video, Paul Dini (who designed Warhawk) specifically said “I wanted to do a Hawkman-type character, then I thought, you know, it’s futuristic so let’s give him like metallic wings and a, you know, hard edged look.” No mention was made of Hawk and Dove there. The “Once and Future Thing” was not even an idea yet and would not be storyboarded or scripted until over almost four years later and would not be aired until five years after “The Call” had aired, so its plot points were not a factor in “The Call.” If you don’t believe me about Dini’s remarks, watch the interview here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca-VNfl3wBM

]]> By: Phil K. http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526323 Phil K. Sun, 24 Oct 2010 01:44:34 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526323 What comic does that page with future Superman and Batman Beyond come from? What comic does that page with future Superman and Batman Beyond come from?

]]> By: skyhawk http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526313 skyhawk Sun, 24 Oct 2010 00:16:09 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526313 I realize JLU & Batman Beyond was released earlier, but Namora from Agent of Atlas was the first thing that sprung to mind. I realize JLU & Batman Beyond was released earlier, but Namora from Agent of Atlas was the first thing that sprung to mind.

]]> By: Michael http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526287 Michael Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:31:53 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526287 just FYI the reason superman suit is like that is because of his evil counter part just FYI the reason superman suit is like that is because of his evil counter part

]]> By: eddie young http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526275 eddie young Sat, 23 Oct 2010 18:42:02 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526275 Wasn't Warhawk also John Stewart's son?? Wasn’t Warhawk also John Stewart’s son??

]]> By: DaVeO http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526217 DaVeO Sat, 23 Oct 2010 14:28:01 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526217 Nice article, The Call was a great 2-parter. Will you be doing the not-too-recently canceled show The Batman? Or have you already? Nice article, The Call was a great 2-parter. Will you be doing the not-too-recently canceled show The Batman? Or have you already?

]]> By: shamon from the bronx ny http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526161 shamon from the bronx ny Sat, 23 Oct 2010 08:55:49 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526161 enjoyed reading that and thanks enjoyed reading that and thanks

]]> By: Mathieas http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526112 Mathieas Sat, 23 Oct 2010 06:17:16 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526112 Great article. I would really like to read your thoughts on the "Justice Lords' from the Justice League cartoon. Some of the designs were rather plain, but I really liked the Justice Lord Superman look. Great article. I would really like to read your thoughts on the “Justice Lords’ from the Justice League cartoon. Some of the designs were rather plain, but I really liked the Justice Lord Superman look.

]]> By: JamesLynch http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526109 JamesLynch Sat, 23 Oct 2010 05:45:57 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526109 I'm pretty sure I remember reading a few different sources, including interviews with Bruce Timm, that stated that Warhawk was originally supposed to be the future representation of Hawk from Hawk & Dove, not Hawkman, before it was decided for "The Once and Future Thing" that he would be John Stewart and Hawkgirl's son. I’m pretty sure I remember reading a few different sources, including interviews with Bruce Timm, that stated that Warhawk was originally supposed to be the future representation of Hawk from Hawk & Dove, not Hawkman, before it was decided for “The Once and Future Thing” that he would be John Stewart and Hawkgirl’s son.

]]> By: Jamie http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526107 Jamie Sat, 23 Oct 2010 05:30:51 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526107 Great article again Alan! I've always had a special place in my heart for alt futures like Batman Beyond and 2099 so this was a fun read. Regarding Aquagirl, I'm sorry Dini and company but I do not see how she resembles her father or mother at all. I like the basic costume in a way, but it seems more punk to me than how their daughter would be raised and accustomed to. Then again maybe we caught her at a rebellious point in her life. Great article again Alan! I’ve always had a special place in my heart for alt futures like Batman Beyond and 2099 so this was a fun read. Regarding Aquagirl, I’m sorry Dini and company but I do not see how she resembles her father or mother at all. I like the basic costume in a way, but it seems more punk to me than how their daughter would be raised and accustomed to. Then again maybe we caught her at a rebellious point in her life.

]]> By: Androoo http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526059 Androoo Sat, 23 Oct 2010 03:28:14 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526059 I loved those costume designs from Batman Beyond. Everything was so streamlined! I especially love Warhawk's design. I wish that was Hawkman's look. The helmet is way better. I loved those costume designs from Batman Beyond. Everything was so streamlined! I especially love Warhawk’s design. I wish that was Hawkman’s look. The helmet is way better.

]]> By: Crusader k http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526030 Crusader k Sat, 23 Oct 2010 02:54:19 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526030 I always loved the Justice league of the future! They have loads of potential and now that McGinnis is getting his own series, maybe we can see more of them? Or perhaps a spinoff series of their own? I always loved the Justice league of the future! They have loads of potential and now that McGinnis is getting his own series, maybe we can see more of them? Or perhaps a spinoff series of their own?

]]> By: SouthtownKid http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-526003 SouthtownKid Sat, 23 Oct 2010 00:53:42 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-526003 Barda is such a great choice for the Justice League since right out of the box she seems like the character DC has spent the longest time trying to turn Wonder Woman into. Barda is such a great choice for the Justice League since right out of the box she seems like the character DC has spent the longest time trying to turn Wonder Woman into.

]]> By: Will Mahoney http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-525987 Will Mahoney Fri, 22 Oct 2010 23:48:14 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-525987 I think the black & white outfit on Superman may also have to do with a spoiler from the Call: Warning! He was possessed by Starro, apparently for decades. I think the black & white outfit on Superman may also have to do with a spoiler from the Call:

Warning!

He was possessed by Starro, apparently for decades.

]]> By: Alan Kistler http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/10/22/agent-of-s-t-y-l-e-the-justice-league-of-batman-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-525977 Alan Kistler Fri, 22 Oct 2010 23:40:09 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=19515#comment-525977 Josh: Also, when "The Call" aired, Aquaman and Dolphin had not been together for years and she'd gotten married to Garth, so thinking she and Arthur might have a kid wasn't on the creators' minds. Josh: Also, when “The Call” aired, Aquaman and Dolphin had not been together for years and she’d gotten married to Garth, so thinking she and Arthur might have a kid wasn’t on the creators’ minds.

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