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Living in Atlanta, there has always been one thing I look forward to more than anything to help me get my geek on: DragonCon. Each year it’s become more and more populated and the costumes and guests have gotten more extravagant. This year, like the past 8 years, I attended D*C for a weekend of fun, comic talk, friends and good times. There’s never a dull moment and with D*C stationed at hotels, you never know who you might run into. It’s not like any other convention that I’ve been to that just shuts down at a set time. It’s non-stop.
Yet, a recent blurb in Entertainment Weekly‘s “Bullseye” section had me slightly irked. Yes, I understand that the “Bullseye” is used to make fun of a lot of things going on in pop culture. Had they just made fun of the convention itself, I probably wouldn’t have minded it as much, yet the quote they used was “DragonCon: the convention for those who aren’t cool enough to get into Comic-Con.” That is where I have my problem. They actually went a little below the belt and insulted the attendees. That is completely different.
Yes, I know that Entertainment Weekly is just a magazine with an opinion and apparently snark is fashionable now, but c’mon. Had this person even been to D*C? Or is it a generalization? The main reason I doubt this writer had not attended D*C is because they would have found out two things: A) There are thousands of people who make it to both D*C and San Diego Comic-Con and B) even more choose D*C over SDCC because of D*C being more of a party in actuality than a convention.
The main reason I go to any convention is for the comic people. I never got into BSG or StarGate or hell, anything Joss Whedon put out (save for his Astonishing X-Men run, which is fabulous), so my main desire is to see my favorite creators in comics. If the occasional “big name” celebrity is on the guest list, my curiosity will pique for sure, but I never make it a priority. That’s just not my bag. This year Dragon*Con had a few bigger names from both sides than we usually get, namely Stan Lee and the Superman of this generation, Brandon Routh. Lee, a living legend, and Routh, hot off his role in the “Scott Pilgrim” movie are surely big names to warrant huge masses and lines seeking an autograph or a handshake. I had the pleasure to meet Lee briefly while he was in Artists’ Alley Saturday afternoon. Routh? I never got a chance because, like I said, I never seek out celebrities or the “Walk of Fame” as it’s called. That’s in addition to names like Neal Adams, Paul Dini, Mark Bagley, or from the Hollywood side, Morena Baccarin from V and Firefly, and Eureka’s Erica Cerra and Colin Ferguson. These are the same folks that EW covers in a fervor at SDCC when they attend that mammoth convention each year. That makes it difficult to figure out just who Entertainment Weekly is trying to insult here.
I think Entertainment Weekly is missing the mark on how to compare D*C and SDCC. Considering the attendees at one cooler than the other is just juvenile. As I stated in an e-mail directly to EW, I choose to attend D*C over SDCC for a number of reasons, as do several professionals and fellow con-goers. We love the laid-back style and less of the hustle and bustle of SDCC. I’m not trying to prove or show that D*C is better in any way, just different and should be acknowledged as such. And in these businesses and fandoms of ours, differences are supposed to be celebrated.
It doesn’t do any good to belittle a convention or its attendees when it doesn’t, on surface, have the Hollywood ties that SDCC does. To call Dragon*Con inadequate is a great fallacy on EW’s part. It is a huge convention with great guests, good times and I recommend you get to attend at least once in your life. It’s truly something you won’t forget and we who attend are beyond “cool”.
September 11th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Honestly, I lived in Atlanta for more than a decade and attended Dragon Con many times — and it’s just an awful convention. I mean, if you’re really into comics, it’s not the place to go. If you like sci-fi TV shows, gaming, porn stars, and folks dressed in costumes, then Dragon Con is your thing. But if you want to meet the folks who make the comics — editors, writers, artists, publishers — Dragon Con just ain’t it. I moved to Charlotte a few years ago, where they host HeroesCon, and I just love that convention.
September 11th, 2010 at 10:37 am
In response to Carlton:
That’s because Dragon*con is NOT just about meeting these people. And to be honest, if you DID want to meet these people, they’re readily available, unless the guest you’re looking for has not been booked.
But this year we got Stan Lee, which is the biggest guest Dragon*con has ever really had. And the biggest they’ll ever get in this comic-book realm.
On the artist and publishers front; There are PLENTY! Unless you’re picky. My boyfriend and I walked the Artist Alley every year, and there is such tremendous, NEW talent there every year. And the artists/publishers and are gracious and bring awesome prints of their work for you to purchase and good prices.
The heart and essence of Dragon*con isn’t about publicity, or press coverage, or fans wanting an over-priced, scribbled name on a glossy of some two-bit, retired 1980′s star; In all honesty, half the con-goers could give two shits.
The heart and essence is fans. The fan run panel (I, being a panelist this year and the past for costuming), and the art of costuming. Not to mention the fan-run, themed, parties.
And its not all about porn stars either -_-. That’s only an unfortunite bit.
But hell, if you don’t like it, good. That leaves more room for the rest of us to have fun!
September 11th, 2010 at 11:00 am
And thanks for clarifying my point. It’s NOT a comic book convention. You can see that by the fact that no major publisher has a major presence there — and companies make NO announcements of any kind at the Dragon Con. It’s, maybe, a cultural convention. Maybe. Which leaves a gaping niche for someone to actually do a comic book convention in Atlanta.
September 11th, 2010 at 11:03 am
G4 also made a snarky comment this year at SDCC. Somethng to the effect that “comics are everywhere [here at SDCC] and a convention without comics wouldn’t be the same…it would be D*C”. WTF?
I have been to both SDCC and D*C and PREFER D*C many, many more times over SDCC. D*C is about the FANS and is a non-stop celebration / party. D*C is honest, fan run and supported, and is NOT about what new TV series or Movie is debuting this year. The artists are at D*C…if you look for them; the writers and celebs are at D*C…if that’s your thing.
I discussed SDCC vs. D*C with a very well known comic writer / artist this past weekend. Her observation, which I heartedly endorse, was that “the insanity at SDCC is about [TV shows] House, and the insanity of D*C is all about comics”. We (my wife and I) participated at D*C…the parade, the world record attempts, the parties, the costuming, stayed up all night, etc, etc….at SDCC, we just went to panal discussions…all of which are covered quite nicely at Newsarama, thank you very much,,,and the convention shut down every night. D*C never stops.
Also, coolness has nothing to do with it but costs does. The hotel and other costs associated with SDCC are ridiculous. Four nights at the Atlanta Hyatt cost us about what one single night hotel stay cost us at the “convention” rates at SDCC.
And, in person, Stan Lee is the nicest guy ever. My wife shook hands with him after the parade. He looked at her in her Wonder Woman costume and said “nice costume”. IF that’s not a comment about fans interacting with celebs and celebs being gracious, I don’t know what is.
Make mine D*C.
September 11th, 2010 at 11:22 am
But…But where will the dragon con attendees get the latest CHUCK news?
September 11th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Oh HeroesCon HANDS DOWN is THE comic book convention. There’s no argument there. I think the misconception about D*C not having “big” comic names (it does) but compared to Stan Lee, Neil Gaiman, Frank Miller and other “legends” of the media, then it doesn’t really count is a mistake. I was unaware of the G4 comment. That’s just ignorant.
September 11th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Dragon Con is my favorite convention of the year. As much as I enjoy San Diego Comic Con, it doesn’t match the fun of Dragon Con.
Bobby
September 11th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Dragon*Con is NOT a comic convention, but there’s plenty to do there as a comic fan. Lots of great artists and writers attend; this year alone saw Mike McKone, Darwin Cooke, George Perez, Mark Brooks, Brian Stelfreeze, Cully Hamner, Tim Sale, Olivier Coipel Ted Naifeh, Tom Feister, Jason Pearson, Paul Dini, some guy called Neal Adams(?), and, oh yeah, STAN FREAKING LEE. Some of the biggest creators in comics right now, and the biggest living comics personality out there.
It’s really more of a genre convention than anything. You’re as likely to have run ins with Joss Whedon or BSG fans as you are actual comic fans, but the lack of “big Hollywood” invasion means that we don’t have to deal with crap like panels and press conferences for romantic comedies and non-genre films.
It’s a great convention, but comparing SDCC and Dragon*Con is like comparing a football game and a Magic cards tournament.
September 11th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
Also, December of this year will see the return of the Atlanta Comics Expo, now under the Wizard World Atlanta banner, so the gap in comics coverage may be filled with that gathering. Honestly though, it’s a Wizard World con, so we’ll see how much of it actually has to do with comics.
September 11th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
I’ve never been to SDCC but would like to go one year. It’s just too far and expensive right now for me. But we have been going to D*C for years and love it. Our kids love it too. But I have to mention that it’s completely true that D*C is more laid back and fan based rather than Hollywood and media based like SDCC. I heard just this year at D*C a celeb saying in a panel that he liked D*C better because SDCC was so corporate and it made it less fun and his costar agreed with him. I think the celebs like D*C better too. I can’t tell you how many times I see celebs walking around D*C checking things out because they feel free to do so without being hounded. I bet that couldn’t happen at SDCC.
September 11th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
Heroes con FTW. Just check their guest list every year, and the affordability of Charlotte as a destination…if you actually care about COMICS it’s perfect
September 11th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
LOL, “not cool enough”…?
Yeah, cause it’s so hard to go online and buy some airfare and a badge for SDCC. So elite, that one.
Seriously, Dragon*con is a giant non-stop geek party. If I wanted to sit around and watch announcements about “NOO AWESUM SHOWS N MOVIES” I could do that on youtube after SDCC when all the giant companies and money hounds have shot their FLASHY NEW ENTERTAINMENT loads. You can’t party, parade or interact with guests on youtube like you can at Dragon*Con.
Lame move, EW. Do some research before you spout off crap. I was kind of looking for an excuse to cancel the household subscription. So thanks for that!
(For real, Dragon*Con has its own TV channel during the convention. That gives it a hundred points right there.)
September 12th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Yeah, it’s pretty stupid to compare them. I love Dragon*Con in no small part because it has such a wide variety of interests. No big name comic book creators? Whatever. The Atlanta area has a lot of really talented people who go pretty much every year and that’s enough.
I mean, it’s DRAGON*Con, for god’s sake. The word “comic” isn’t anywhere to be found. Why would anyone think it’s comic book-centric?
September 13th, 2010 at 5:11 am
Love it when nerd culture argues about which sect of us is cooler.
September 13th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Entertainment Weekly is pretty down on most genre stuff in general, unless it becomes a proven hit and then they hop on the bandwagon. I’ve read them for years and they will shill the movies, books and tv shows with the same rom-com and dramatic plots, but slam sci-fi books and shows left and right.
September 13th, 2010 at 9:20 am
HeroesCon is the new Comic-Con! It’s a wonderful convention whose primary focus is comics. Let San-Diego have its Hollywood d-bags. I just want to be surrounded by ppl who love comics, that’s what HereosCon has always been about.
September 13th, 2010 at 9:38 am
I’m with “justsaying”…You sound butthurt for no reason….lame…..
September 13th, 2010 at 9:39 am
OK, so maybe Dragon*Con isn’t the best con for comics-related stuff, but that isn’t the point. Making fun of everyday people who happen to enjoy D*C is, as Lan pointed out, juvenile. I generally love Entertainment Weekly and its brand of snark, but that was kinda tacky. Heidi Montag? Fair game. Anonymous geeks minding their own business? Not so much.
September 13th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Reading what has been posted so far – being from California and now living in Georgia, and have attended SDCC MANY years – it boils down to what one is looking for. I’ve been in GA for several years now and have yet to D*C…for when I’ve gone by or word of mouth – its not a “comic book” show…like George M said. Its more fantasy and stars kinda gig and that’s fine. I have no issue with that whatsoever!! Everyone needs a show that they’d call their own, so to speak. SDCC, at this point, I almost wouldn’t call that a comic book convention either – it was many years ago, but the focus of “comics” has gotten lost in the Hollywood stardust…amongst other things. That is a beast of its own calling…LOL! I agree, HeroesCon reminded me of how SDCC USED to be back in the day, before it became what it is today. Just a cool, old fashion comic convention that’s true purpose is for the comic book fanatics!!
I would NEVER knock D*C to anyone. IF I spoke with a person and kinda got a feel for what they’d want from a show…and D*C fit the bill – I would whole heatedly tell them to go. For myself…I’m a comic book man… So…to each their own. Do what it do…
September 13th, 2010 at 10:54 am
To be honest, this is just another one of those off-handed comments that writers like to make because they think it makes them seem “edgy”. I predict we’ll see more than one missive in the lettercol calling the writer on the carpet, complete with a response from the editors or writer to the effect of “Hey, just kidding, I love you goofy bastards, hurr hurr…”
The photos George Perez has been posting of the AMAZING Comics cosplay costuming going on at the show has gotten me thinking I should add D*C to my congoing schedule in an upcoming year. Haven’t been to SDCC since the early 90s, truly an age ago. Nowadays we hit Baltimore and NYCC. Heroes has been calling to me as well.
Who knows, I might hit that lotto jackpot and hit them all. I can travel there on the monkeys that will fly out of my butt.
September 13th, 2010 at 10:57 am
I have been to both SDCC and D*C. I thoroughly enjoyed both of them. Both of them have great appeal and it is nice to be in my element both in the south and on the west coast. I look forward to attending both of them in the future.
September 13th, 2010 at 10:59 am
You know, I have been to Dragon Con numerous times with friends and as a convention, for me it really blows. It’s a non stop party, and if your into that, it’s cool.
Me….I want to meet creators and attend better panels on comics then what they provide.
I’m not knocking the con, but it is certainly not a place for me as a comic fan to really want to attend if I am trying to get as much out of a con experience (comic wise) as I want to get.
I have a lot more fun at Mega Con, Comic Con, and Heroes Con then I do at Dragon Con because those are more the types of cons I enjoy.
To each their own.
September 13th, 2010 at 11:08 am
Maybe I’m jaded, but D*C is one of the best general conventions around – media tracks, gaming tracks, comic tracks, authors, and costuming all in one place; the vast majority of comics fans, according to demographics, are interested in one or more of those other areas as well. SDCC is more and more of a “Comic industry con”, which is fine as far as it goes, but is really just… not so much fun anymore, IMO.
September 13th, 2010 at 11:11 am
DragonCon is NOT a comic book convention, so theres no point in comparing them. People don’t choose one over the other. A better comparison for SDCC is NYCC or Heroes or Balitmore. Dragon Con is unique, its a sci-fi/fantasy/costume/party con. It doesn’t pretend to be anything else. There’s some comic presence there, and some huge names, but artist alley is pretty small.
They may as well compare it PAX or Gen Con. These are different types of cons for different audiences.
September 13th, 2010 at 11:52 am
I think the con would be a lot more popular if it didn’t take place at the same week as PAX prime (one of my favorite cons every year)
September 13th, 2010 at 11:55 am
There’s apparently a whole lot of sex going on at DC:
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/09/10/blown-out-at-dragoncon/
Take that, SD!
September 13th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
On his panel with Jamy Ian Swiss this weekend, Adam Savage said he vastly prefers D*C to SDCC. He said the folks in Atlanta make SDCC look like “amateur hour”.
I want this on a t-shirt.
September 13th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Having hit Dragon*Con 2010, I must say it never ceases to construct unorganized confusion. While still not uping the ante in regards of bringing in major celebraties needed to generate a massive con-going it deserves, it did, however, manange, for comics fans in the South, two arrivials that were a long time coming: Stan Lee and Neal Adams. Stan the Man, for whom brought superheroes a humanity never explored by DC in the Silver Age (with Jack Kirby, Steve Ditko and the Marvel Bullpen at the time) and for ATLiens and Dirty South fanboys and girls to see and meet him before God calls him home; and Adams, arguably one of the industry’s first activists in regards to creator rights. For me as a aspiring writer and creator, to meet Stan was the highpoint of a rather long yet excellent weekend. Also can’t forget Peter David, Darwyn Cooke (who I missed meeting), George Perez and the like. Hope Dragon*Con 2011 will be on point, and more affordable.
September 13th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
I think the velvet dragon paintings, suits of armor, knight swords and other miscellaneous middle ages junk scattered around is the biggest issue I had with dragon con.. That and all fat people reeked of beef jerky. If SDCC is making comic books cool and marketable to young audiences again then dragon con is the polar opposite. What teenager wants to go to a place filled with old fat guys pretending to be dwarfs and knights or whatever. Dragon Con is more renaissance fair than comic convention.. Had Wizard World Atlanta ever happened a few years back then Dragon Con would have been done with.
September 13th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Guys, we go to comic book conventions.
We’re not cool.
Get over it.
September 13th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Court = win.
D*C is a 4-day party with costumes, where there happens to be some comics related stuff sold and/or talked about. It’s definitely NOT a comic convention, though. I’ve never been to SDCC, nor do I have any desire to, but I’ve been to D*C a few times and have had a great time there with LOTS of cool people. And lots of dorks, as well.
September 13th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
Dragon Con is not a comic convention. period. There are comics there, and I got to meet Marv Wolfman and George Perez there a few years ago, but comics are just not the focus.
The parties in the hotel rooms are legendary. This is less of a con and more of a festival. Drugs, booze, sex…it’s a free-for-all in browncoats and stormtrooper suits.
I would like to go to the SDCC at some point, but the thought of it being “cooler” than Dragon Con is kind of funny. This year, the culture shock of the LSU/UNC college football kickoff game, black gay pride, and the Dragon Con parade going on at the same time is the ultimate in craziness.
If you go to dragon con just for comics, yes, you will be disappointed. But they don’t advertise it as a comic con. If you’re into sci-fi, larping, cosplay, music, and general debauchery, you will be happy.
September 14th, 2010 at 7:50 am
Wow, a fight about whether comics or roleplaying games are cooler?
The jocks and snooty chicks back in junior high never made much distinction.
I think that’s what you’re dealing with here, IMO. Whoever that EW writer is who wrote that is just like one of those people from junior high, and by responding you’re just letting them press your buttons.
Let them go back to their sad, pathetic lives trying to get 10 seconds with Megan Fox and Katy Perry, and we’ll enjoy comics and RPGs? Isn’t that what it’s supposed to be about?
September 14th, 2010 at 7:51 am
Truth is, combining the vendor room/ exhibitor room/ artists alley/ panels/ comics fans in attendance/ the comics segment of DragonCon is larger than any of the comics only cons around ATL. At least for now, the upcoming WizardCon is not on the same level as DragonCon. DragonCon started when a gaming convention combined with a comics convention. It has since grown into a more general celebration of fandoms, including comics, sci-fi, fantasy, gaming,cosplay, and urban art. The amount of industry participation is not up to snuff with other cons, but not for DragonCon not trying. They’ve had to focus on other industries that have been more receptive and get whatever comics folks they can. If you are looking for a con that focuses on comics and nothing else, DragonCon is not for you.
September 14th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Three cheers for The Zug! I completely agree. I wish we lived in a world where no one judged others, but alas we don’t. You just have to do your best to ignore the fools.
However, in this particular case, I personally thought the EW joke was funny and not mean spirited. I can forgive an author who makes a joke that is received as mean spirited, but did not intend for it to be mean spirited.
For example, I thought the way the Scott Pilgrim movie poked fun at vegans was hilarious. But I’m sure some vegans were upset at being portrayed as stuck up and holy than thou. I don’t think the writers were being mean spirited so I still think that was ok.
September 14th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Having attended SDCC for the first time this year I can say that (for me) the locale was the main draw, not the con. Dont get me wrong, we had a blast, but it wasnt “everything” it could have been other than several hundred long lines to wait in and A LOT of snobby nerds. There’s nothing elite or cool about SDCC unless you’re backstage playing scrabble with Joss Whedon or playing D&d with Vin Diesel. If they dont get their hotel situation straight next year probably wont be as big a draw.
September 14th, 2010 at 11:02 am
To say that Dragon*Con does not offer much in comics is ridiculous.
I used to be the Director of comics and from the very beginning we have had guest like Julluis Schwartz and even Will Eisner.
Dragon Con is not Comic Con, it doesn’t want to be.
Instead it wants to be itself.
It offeres everything from comics to wrestling, and science fiction/fantasy literature to electronic frontiers.
I think EW got it completely wrong.
Yes Comic Con International is the biggest and one of the oldest.
But it has always had a specific focus, Dragon*Con has a focus of having fun and sharing your geek with everyone else.
I have had the honor of working both conventions (my first Comic Con was in ’76), and I love them both dearly.
They are not the same show. They were never meant to be.
I think the best way to handle this is to ask the person who wrote the piece to attend both (heck I would even get the badges for them). And then write a new piece next year or even a series of pieces about the experience (good and bad).
The one problem we have all had is that we love our niche (be it Comics or Whedon or Star Wars or whatever) and often criticize the others. One of these days we have to get over that and I have found that Dragon*Con is the best example of this ever.
September 14th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Having attended D*C in its “original” incantation as the Atlanta Fantasy Fair as well as having lived in CLT for a decade and going to HeroesCon,I’ll co-sign Carlton that D*C is prob not the place for comics in ATL. I went to D*C this year specifically to have Neal Adams sign my Muhammad Ali vs. Superman editon. Looking forward to see how WizWorld ATL turns out.
One thing is clear though, ONLY in ATLANTA could you have the conflagration Ga Tech football game, College Game Day, Dragon Con, Black Gay Pride and a UNC/LSU prime time game going on all within a 5-mile radius.
September 25th, 2010 at 8:21 am
Mostly everyone has been talking comic books in these debates. I think many miss the point. I have never been to Comic Con, but I have been to Dragoncon. I have a great time when I’m there. The point I’ll be making is this: Dragoncon is more of what I would call a “popular culture” convention. There is more, much more, to the world of popular culture than just comic books. But, for those that absolutely insist Dragoncon has zero to do with comics, then I have one thing I want them to see: the Dragoncon parade.
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February 26th, 2011 at 12:11 am
I know this is a pretty old column. Not sure if anyone will find this comment, but I hate people putting down DragonCon.
I’ve lived in Atlanta for 14 years. Gone to DragonCon all 14. Best thing Atlanta has to offer. My main focus is comics. Anyone who says DragonCon isn’t about comics is ridiculous.
This past DragonCon: Stan Lee, Neal Adams, Paul Dini, Tim Sale, Kelley Jones, J. Scott Campbell, Darwyn Cooke, Mike Mignola, George Perez, Peter David, Olivier Coipel, Mike McKone, Mark Bagley, Jimmy Palmiotti, Amanda Conner, Phil Noto, Rodney Ramos, Tone Rodriguez, Jonathan Maberry, Dexter Vines, Koi Turnbull, Jason Pearson, Tom Feister, Jason Pearson, Brian Stelfreeze, Karl Story, Laura Martin, Glenn Barr.
Doesn’t sound like much of a comic con does it???? I guess DragonCon doesn’t have much to do about comics, right? I mean, look at that list!! Find another nearby con with that many big name comic artists in attendance besides the really big ones. Sure HeroesCon is awesome and has a massive guest list. But even they don’t get some of these big guests that DragonCon has.
Over the past 14 years at DragonCon, I have met: Will Eisner, Neil Gaiman, Yoshitaka Amano, Warren Ellis, Denny O’Neil, Charles Vess, Jim Steranko, David Lloyd, Jim Lee, John Byrne, Chris Claremont, Howard Chaykin, Bernie Wrightson, Mike Carlin, Murphy Anderson, Dave Dorman, Art Suydam, Kurt Busiek, Marv Wolfman, Carmine Infantino, Julius Schwartz, Russ Heath, Mark Waid, Adam Hughes, Bill Sienkiewicz, Art Adams, Matt Wagner, Mike Allred,Paul Gulacy, Ethan VanSciver, Tony Harris, Michael Avon Oeming, Paul Jenkins, Whilce Portacio, Talent Caldwell, Greg Horn, Joe Jusko, Tim Bradstreet, Michael Golden, Mark Texiera, Joe Benitez, Steve Rude, Mike Baron, Mark Schultz, Bruce Jones, Jim Balent, Peter Stigerwald, Kevin J. Anderson, Timothy Zahn, Michael Stackpole, Scott Allie.
Why in the world would anyone think that DragonCon is a con for comic fans? Well, I’m a huge comic fan, and I’m really thankful for meeting all these amazing creators because of DragonCon. Anyone who says DragonCon isn’t about comics hasn’t been paying attention.
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