Its just sad that we have to loose another piece of our childhood to another one of Marvel’s marketing schemes. At least I got my darkhorse comics and the last few good DC titles.

Sorry for the rant!

THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END SAY IT AIN’T SO!?!?”

Well the world might end but chances are they are going to relaunch a new World and than celebrate it’s anniversary as though it was our world. Just saying is all.

obviously people wouldn’t be overreacting if they hadn’t paid attention to the Marvel Con news in the months before.

Back in the late 90s when Joe Quesada first came to power I got sick of his rebooted/retconned view of the Marvel Universe and, in the space of about two years, went from reading 40 regular monthly Marvel titles to 1 – Daredevil.

Mind you, I only continued with DD because of my love of the character not because of the story, but eventually I got sick of Bendis’ self involved wankery and finally gave the title the flick with issue 70.

If there really are comic book fans out there who think that issue 512 of DD will be the last we ever see of Murdoch/DD than you are quite possibly stupid or at the very least niave. Yes, a character can be killed or have their title cancelled, but as for actually staying dead? Or never geting a title again?

I remeber a quote from a few years back, I can’t remeber who said it, that basically went “Death is a revolving door in superhero comics. The only characters who have ever died and stayed dead are Bucky and Barry Allen and I don’t see that changing anytime soon”. Well, last I checked both Bucky and Barry are now alive and well and running around in their respective universes…

So for those who complain on boards like this and say “I’m not going to read this anymore” yet seem to still be complaining X number of years later, why don’t you just grow a pair of balls and simply stop giving Marvel (or DC for that matter) your hard earned cash and go buy something else – I did!

Its amazing how someone who had 98% marvel in his collection has been consistently buying with 95% of the purchases being DC these past four years. Its obviously going to continue into the future, based on all the crap above.

DC are smart, in that they are(largely) staying with the old status quo.
They will pick up so much business over the next decade by just sitting back.

On Wolverine and Deadpool prolificness – I hardly see how that arguement works in the favour or DC, I count 11 Batman starring books coming out in the most recent solicits vs about the same number for Wolverine and Deadpool combined. Thats not even counting the 7 Bat-character titles vs the 2 Wolverine character titles. Also, most of Wolverines books are team – New Avengers, X-force, X-men and Uncanny X-men, which don’t necessarily contain much Wolverine anyway, most of Batman is just Batman.

On DC having better art – Very subjective – sure Greg Land brings the average down, but I can’t think of any artists at DC who I specifically rate as notably better than (as opposed to as good as) say, Alex Maleev, Lenil Yu, Oeming, or David Mack to pick some names off the top of my head of artists who do work for Marvel series. You could possibly argue Alex Ross and Amanda Conner is superb, but really no names come to mind of being an entire “level” above Marvel artists. Generally, I find them pretty much on a par.

On Daredevil going evil being rushed – Quite possibly, I wasn’t reading Daredevil prior to Shadowland so can’t comment on that. What you seem to be suggesting though is it’s some fundemental thing about Marvel that has made that happen. Really? Writers are fallible, but in the grand scheme of things there are a lot worse bits of writing than that to complain about. Besides, unless you’ve somehow read the entire crossover to make sure nothing is said about it later, there is always the possibility of filling in through flashbacks.

I have not bought in to the new #1 issue relaunches for a long time. I have felt that it is a poor excuse to take an extra $1 out of the pockets of dedicated readers. Sure it boosts slumping sales of a book for the first 5 or 6 issues and then it tapers of again. Most of the people buying these titles are not new readers, but long time readers of comic books who frequent their local comic book shops. It spurns people like me to drop the habit of picking up a new book, just because it costs more and it is only a gimmick to suck in good people’s hard earned dollars. If they truly wanted to bring in new readers and show appreciation for the old fans, why not make the cover price $1 less for a new first issue relaunch. I.e. Start with the new #1 being $2.99, then start with their $3.99 pricing from issue #2 onward. It would even help retailers as well who are certainly going to buy an enormous amount of #1’s to get the variants. It’s basic marketing; if people feel they are getting a deal they are more willing to make a purchase.

I don’t need anyone to point out that this does not make fiscal sense to lower the price. I realize there would be less profit, but maybe more people would be inclined to pick up a new relaunch if it cost less. As I said the retailers will prop the first issue up into the hundreds of thousands in sales by purchasing enough copies to get their variants.

I can’t justify it to myself to purchase a relaunch for more money, I leave the new book on the shelf because it doesn’t make fiscal sense to me.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/08/17/comic-book-fans-believe-daredevil-is-cancelled-forever/

I have not bought in to the new #1 issue relaunches for a long time. I have felt that it is a poor excuse to take an extra $1 out of the pockets of dedicated readers. Sure it boosts slumping sales of a book for the first 5 or 6 issues and then it tapers of again. Most of the people buying these titles are not new readers, but long time readers of comic books who frequent their local comic book shops. It spurns people like me to drop the habit of picking up a new book, just because it costs more and it is only a gimmick to suck in good people’s hard earned dollars. If they truly wanted to bring in new readers and show appreciation for the old fans, why not make the cover price $1 less for a new first issue relaunch. I.e. Start with the #1 being $2.99, then start with their $3.99 pricing from issue #2 onward. It would even help retailers as well who are certainly going to buy an enormous amount of #1′s to get the variants. It’s basic marketing; if people feel they are getting a deal they are willing to make a purchase.

I don’t need anyone to point out that this does not make fiscal sense to lower the price. I realize there would be less profit, but maybe more people would be inclined to pick up a new relaunch if it cost less. As I said the retailers will prop the first issue up into the hundreds of thousands in sales by purchasing enough copies to get their variants.

I can’t justify it to myself to purchase a relaunch for more money, I leave the new book on the shelf because it doesn’t make fiscal sense to me.

Actually, if more people start voting with their wallets, it will. One fan will go unnoticed, but if everyone not happy with a decision would do so, Marvel (and DC) might actually rethink some of their decisions.

Don’t forget Marvel are first and foremost businessmen who have been at this for a long time. And who I am liking less and less as time goes on.

As for renumbering Ultimate Spider-Man for #150, it does seem pretty premature, but on the other hand, the anniversary issue sounds like it’s going to be a whole lot of fun. Kudos to that series for lasting so long.

Who seriously cares about the *numbers* on an issue?

You people are completely insane.

Depends on how Marvel wants to fudge the numbers to get it to #600 as quickly as possible.

This is silly. It just got it’s old numbering back. I thought we were past all this short-term gain for long-term nuthin’ nonsense.

David

Also, why is the hell do we have to have 20 F’in Wolverine or Deadpool books? I also think there possible is close to a dozen Spiderman titles. Why?

Can’t they think of something new? For Daredevil they rushed fiinsihing off the storyline he was in and then BANG he was evil in Shadowland. No leadup, No hints in earlier issues.

I’ll finish getting the story and put them up. Fron 1964 to today I have all of his books. They need to recind this statement and FIRE all the A’holes running the show as far as Daredevil is concerned. Bring back Frank Miller.