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By: elvee

elvee — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:58:17 +0000

You’re skeptical. Which is natural, given that it’s a movie tie-in comic, but Miller’s writing is usually my kind of crazy. If he wants to bring another giant-size dawn of civilization fever dream of a comic into the world, I’ll sure as heck give it a read.

By: silvanthalas

silvanthalas — Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:52:48 +0000

“It’s like Frank Miller writing a new Xerxes OGN-”

And does anybody really think this Xerxes story is going to be some great thing from Miller? Call me skeptical, but I really doubt it.

By: elvee

elvee — Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:10:19 +0000

@silvanthalas: Those loads of Hollywood cash aren’t as loaded as they used to be. This is just my speculation, but a published comic is a heck of a way to sell a movie to an industry swamped with ideas and pitches from all sorts of writers and wack-jobs. Some movies start as a three paragraph treatment, but Millar essentially provides them with a fully realized story complete with storyboards to be adapted at the director’s discretion. And if Millar can get paid for writing the comic and selling the movie, then why not? It’s like Frank Miller writing a new Xerxes OGN- he doesn’t need to make a whole new comic to get a 300 sequel greenlit, but he can get paid twice for one job if he does, and then much of the design work for the movie is already done.

And all work is driven by a paycheck. Comics are probably more creatively fulfilling and conducive to a singular voice than the movie industry, but money’s money.

By: silvanthalas

silvanthalas — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 23:00:53 +0000

Crokies, the problem is that in the case of Kick-Ass and Nemesis, it seems to be more about selling a pitch to Hollywood than writing a good comic. The comic is so secondary that it’s completely unnecessary.

If you just want to make loads of cash in Hollywood, then just go do that then and don’t bother with the comics.

As somebody else pointed out earlier, there are far better characters to make a movie about than from some half-finished project that’s being driven by a Hollywood paycheck.

By: the chef

the chef — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:34:34 +0000

Hopefully they’ll make The Unfunnies movie next.

I kid.

By: LoyalV

LoyalV — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:02:43 +0000

Indeed, Crokies. On the other hand, 30+ responses to a news item means it probably got a ton of page views, which help pay for Nrama’s writers and bandwidth. It’s sort of the Monsters Inc. screams-to-energy method, turning bratty vitriol into viable energy.

By: Crokies

Crokies — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 17:59:32 +0000

What I have never understood and what I will always fail to understand is why people who buy and love comics (me included)are always complaining about some comic books, when the truth is that is always good news to see new properties traslate into other mediums, like movies, or cartoons, or whatever.
I mean, who would have thought 15 or 20 years ago that creator owned projects would be made into movies? Really? So now that it´s happening, and that people (studios)are willing to invest in our hobbies, why is it there are out there lots of people who just say: Ohh, this is poo! WTF is this! Why does MMillar even exist?
I mean, the more people read comic books, the better, and it doesn’t matter (and it doesn’t hurt anyone) if they are reading marvel or dc or dark horse or image or idw, as long as they are reading something!
After all, of you don’t like it, don’t watch it, don’t see it, don’t buy it, and don’t read it, and please, don’t be a hatter just because!!

By: Chitty

Chitty — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 07:24:43 +0000

At the end of the day all of the messages listed here remind me exactly why I left the real Rama Boards those years ago. OK, so like 3 years ago.

I got to the point where I just couldn’t take the 95% negativity that permeates the entire message board. It got to the point where it was bringing ME down and then I started to hate on comics hard as bad as all the other losers!

I will still read articles of interviews with actual writers/artists here and at CBR. Other than that now I just read the solicitations online each month, go to the shop, buy my comics, go home and read them. And then most importantly I FORM MY OWN OPINIONS ABOUT THE COMICS I’M READING! NO MORE BANDWAGONS DRIVEN AROUND BY THE DARKNESS WHICH RUNS RAMA MESSAGE BOARDS!!!

Peace out homies!

By: Unit99IsAnIdiot

Unit99IsAnIdiot — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 04:38:01 +0000

Wow, good job, Hacky McDumbass. Bitter much?

By: Flinstone

Flinstone — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 01:06:19 +0000

I guess it’s better to be overrated than not even on the rating scale. But when it comes down to it – you’re talking about him and his product.

I see a lot of “Millar-envy” here. Good for a chuckle at least.

By: Unit99

Unit99 — Sun, 08 Aug 2010 23:16:54 +0000

Meanwhile….”Millar’s ego grows bigger!” Honestly, the man is overrated. He cannot create anything orignal. Look at WANTED a comlpete ripoff of DC/Marvel. The only thing he can write is a good Superman story. The only reason he & Brubakers stuff is optioned is bec their outspoken political views. nuff said

By: Chancius

Chancius — Sun, 08 Aug 2010 23:05:33 +0000

I’m on the fence with this… I do find Millar a very entertaining writer and don’t agree that ALL of his writing is ultra violent or crass (hate most of the Ultimate stuff, but loved his UFF)… I do think there are way more other writers who have material that deserves film treatment, but Millar just happens to be a smart (and lucky) writer. He’s stayed a major name in comics with high profile work on Marvel stuff and parlays this success and fan base into creator owned characters that are easily optioned to studios because of this. Wanted is a perfect case that he’s willing to bend with what a studio wants, since the movie was greatly changed from the original source material. His movies might not be blockbusters, but they still do okay as far as making money is concerned. In the end, I wish anyone luck with success because it takes a lot of talent, persistence, management, and luck to achieve lots of it…

By: Chickenbat13

Chickenbat13 — Sun, 08 Aug 2010 18:11:23 +0000

Mark Millar’s one of the best writers in the industry? Really? When Millar is writing his creator owned stuff, maybe. But when he’s on an established character, he is definitely not. Between he and Bendis, they have successfully chased me away from most things Marvel, and that makes me sad. And Chitty, I do read Nova (as well as GOTG and Thanos Imperative), and Millar will never get close to writing a masterpiece like DnA have crafted in those titles.

By: U_no

U_no — Sun, 08 Aug 2010 14:39:47 +0000

@Kel-El

It’s not that he’s using Batman’s name. That’s the entire hook of the premise. What if there was someone with Batman’s resources and smarts who worked for the opposite side? That’s the easiest way to explain what the character is about to comic readers and people outside of comics. Sure he could’ve went with, well Nemesis is this character who has all of these cool gadgets, is an elite fighter and has one of the brightest minds in the world, but he’s EEEEEVIL!!!! I mean come on! Anyone who reads comics would probably say, soooo “He’s an evil Batman?”

And Prometheus was hardly the coolest, best or first anti-Batman. I’d say Catman is a much more interesting anti-Batman.

By: Kel-El

Kel-El — Sun, 08 Aug 2010 13:50:49 +0000

That’s true Flinstone, but Millar had to use Batman’s name to sell this book, and DC’s lawyers had to threaten him to make him back off that meme.
We’re looking at Morrison’s Prometheus, Mark Millar-style.
The book’s not good and not even finished. Who would option a movie?
Oh wait, Fox Studios? That makes sense.

By: Flinstone

Flinstone — Sun, 08 Aug 2010 13:23:15 +0000

gary Says:

The problem is that every character in comics is somewhat of a Superman, Batman or Wonder Woman pastiche.

But one could easily say that Batman and Superman are both rip-offs of The Shadow and Doc Savage etc. At the end of the day, everything has been inspired by everything before it going back to ancient myth like Heracles, Thor, Ulysses etc. Millar’s not doing anything different that any creator in the past has done. He just seems a lot more media savy. He’s not my cup of tea, but I wish him the best. Tony Scott is a great visual director who should create a great adaptation.

By: TIP

TIP — Sun, 08 Aug 2010 10:43:43 +0000

First there was news about a MAGE film.

And now Grendel!

Matt Wagner must be pleased.

By: Dan C.

Dan C. — Sun, 08 Aug 2010 07:59:43 +0000

I’m not sure that it bodes well, but the combination of Tony Scott and Mark Millar makes all kinds of sense. Each of these guys has been pushing an aesthetic based on unrepentant, high-concept trashiness for years in his respective art-form, so why not pair the fast-cutting fluorescence of Domino with the lad-baiting splatter and over-size daddy issues that have become the hallmarks of the Millar style? This sounds like a crime against good taste that I can live with for about 2 hours and 40 ounces.

By: Chitty

Chitty — Sun, 08 Aug 2010 07:19:21 +0000

You complainers are so cute.

Millar deserves this. He’s one of the best writers in the industry at the moment and he’s been churning out consistently solid reads for years now. Sorry you can’t see that. Go read Nova or something…

I’m happy for him and hope this works out well on the big screen.

By: gary

gary — Sun, 08 Aug 2010 04:47:28 +0000

The problem is that every character in comics is somewhat of a Superman, Batman or Wonder Woman pastiche.

But regarding Millar, I think the reason why he gets work in Hollywood is because his books are easy-made pitches. Kick Ass was “What if a Teenager did become a Superhero?” and “Spiderman Meets Jack-Ass.” Wanted was “What if Villains Took Over?” and “Fight Club meets Illuminati.” Nemesis is “What if the Joker was Batman” and “Sherlock Holmes/Moriarty meets Michael Bay.”

And I think Millar works well in Hollywood because he always has a decent twisted through-line. Wanted was basically Spider-man, with a character that takes the opposite route of Peter Parker and Superman (with great power comes a great chance to take advantage of others). Kick Ass basically takes the the “great power” idea again and twists it by having a character who doesn’t have “great power” or “skill” and makes them take responsiblity to be a vigilante. Nemesis takes the route of someone taking revenge on those who killed his parents, but with the idea that his parents were horrible deviant serial killers.

Millar can pitch well, he’s generous to the people he works with, and he has stories that are pretty basic with just enough of a subversion of the 3-4 superhero origin stories that are portrayed in popcorn film today.

By: Devil_Hanzo

Devil_Hanzo — Sun, 08 Aug 2010 03:24:04 +0000

Between Big Daddy and now Nemesis; can Millar even create a character that isn’t a subpar rip-off of Batman?

By: comic_dude

comic_dude — Sun, 08 Aug 2010 03:09:43 +0000

At least Michael Bay isn’t directing it.

By: Coming Curse

Coming Curse — Sun, 08 Aug 2010 02:45:01 +0000

@Dude
Because books like Wonder Woman and the Flash only exist to cater to a small, nostalgic fanbases for outdated characters. The publishers keep cranking out books for the same characters decades after they’ve been creatively exhausted because they know there will always be a small group of fans willing to follow them. It’s actually more soulless than creating a comic book with the intent of later adapting it into a movie.

By: Dude

Dude — Sun, 08 Aug 2010 02:21:38 +0000

I don’t have anything against Millar, but am I the only one who is noticing this weird trend where comics are being used more for movie pitches than to make quality comics? It just feels like a scam. Why is it that a book that’s not even done yet is getting a movie deal when a character like Wonder Woman or The Flash has been around for years and years and still hasn’t on the big screen yet? I’m not saying I’m against some fresh faces and some diversity, but it kind of feels soulless the way they’re going about it.

By: BB

BB — Sun, 08 Aug 2010 01:54:35 +0000

No one really will care as it really isn’t a very good book. Maybe DC will now tell him to change the name since he ripped it off anyway and not just from them. As far as vulgarity, people who are vulgar like it. They’re the ones who like to throw out low life comments just because someone gives an opinion. I like those type of people. It’s funny how a little old school free style practice and they shut up real quick. Of course it hard being a loud mouth coward so what can you do.

By: Kel-El

Kel-El — Sun, 08 Aug 2010 01:54:02 +0000

Oh look, Millar is gonna have his book about evil Batman/Owlman/Prometheus made.

Are there any ideas he hasn’t ripped off and whored off to Hollywood?
What are you doing under that table, Mr. Millar?