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The Gold Exchange: Dan Jurgens on Time Masters: Vanishing Point #1

July 27th, 2010
Author Russ Burlingame

I guess you can go home again. Just a couple of months after Dan Jurgens’ name disappeared from the monthly credits of Booster Gold, a series based on a character he created, he’s picked up numerous plot threads from that title–as well as some of the characters he’s worked with extensively during his run on Superman and in the mega-crossover Zero Hour, which he wrote and drew–in Time Masters: Vanishing Point. A part of the ongoing “Return of Bruce Wayne” story, this miniseries by Jurgens and former Booster Gold inker Norm Rapmund will explore not only the search for Batman, but the role of time travel in the DC Universe now and going forward. Besides Booster Gold, Green Lantern, Superman and Rip Hunter, the story features Supernova and Goldstar (Booster’s superheroic family members) and Rip Hunter’s sometime-allies the Linear Men, among others. So, while Booster’s monthly has been taken over by the Justice League: Generation Lost story and is tying only marginally into the ongoing narrative of Booster and Rip, that story is being continued–by the same creative team who’s been doing it for a few years now.

We sat down with Dan Jurgens to talk about the first issue, and he took time out of his San Diego recovery–and from browsing the recently-launched DanJurgens.com–to answer us.

The Gold Exchange: You’ve said that Time Masters: Vanishing Point will not only tie into The Return of Bruce Wayne and “Flashpoint”, but also clarify how time travel works in the DCU these days. Will we get a clarification (or have we already have one and I missed it) on the two different interpretations of Rip Hunter that we’ve seen at Vanishing Point in the last few years?

Dan Jurgens: Simply put, I think it’s a part of the change over time, in terms of how I see the character and where I want him to go. Some of this may seem a bit more natural by the end of the series. But I’d also say the more “public” Rip, as seen by Superman and GL, is closer to what may have appeared several years ago. The Rip seen in BG is generally with Booster, which means there is more familiarity and they’re going to have a more relaxed relationship.

In terms of time travel, I don’t know that it’s quite right to say that we’re going to clarify how time travel works. What we will do is reset the table a bit so everyone gets a bit of a better feel for who the main players are, why they do what they do, etc.

GX: Do you have a story reason in mind why Skeets would look more like his original self Booster’s future/Rip’s past?

DJ: Skeets is subject to regular adjustments, both from the standpoint of hardware and software. You’ll see a bit more on that in #3. But the basic idea is that Skeets is often in “upgrade” mode.

GX: Kevin Allen, a regular reader who friended me on Facebook a while back, actually wrote in to ask if there’s a bit of a callback going on here with Rip’s T-Rex experience paralleling the one that we’ve seen numerous times with Rip and Brainiac 5 in previews.

DJ: Hmm. Could be. Just a bit. Once again, it’s possible you’ll see a bit more along those lines.

I really am trying to build the idea that from an very early age on, Time Travel to Rip Hunter was the same as a spring break trip to people now. Rip knows a multitude of people throughout time.

GX: It’s interesting—the time-travel crisis of conscience involved with wanting to help the sick people who died 500 years ago is something that your characters often struggle with—not only has Booster been coping with it (in Coast City, among other places) but Supes himself has already struggled with this when he first encountered Vanishing Point in “Time and Time Again”. Is that something you think people who spend their days trying to save lives can ever truly come to terms with?

DJ: I think about it in terms of characters like Superman. When Superman sees human suffering, it’s totally within his nature to ease it. Yet, with something like time travel, the equation changes greatly because it would change known history. While Superman can accept that intellectual argument, it’s very, very hard to accept it on an emotional issue and walk away from it.

GX: Who is it on the other end of Daniel Jon Carter’s radio when he goes to see the destroyed Vanishing Point? Rip? Michelle? A surprise?

DJ: Of course, it’s a surprise! If I wanted that person known at this point, they would have been on panel!

GX: Where in the Batman story does this issue fall? Obviously before this issue ever hit we saw the Archivist go bad.

DJ: It’s time travel! Not to be evasive, but it can fit into wrinkles of moments in the Batman story.

GX: Speaking of that character, the gangly, fuzzy, weird-looking sucker has pretty much got “Grant Morrison” written all over him. But Morrison dropped it in the middle of his story and had Rip going to him for help—is it frustrating trying to clear up the way time travel works in the DCU while simultaneously having new characters introduced mid-story that are supposed to be key to the way time travel works?

DJ: A bit, though not so much that it’s a problem to deal with.

GX: Will we be seeing more of the New Gods in this story? Rip’s wondering what they’re up to kinda has me wondering, too.

DJ: Perhaps. The real key is that Rip is wondering at all. He has instant answers at his fingertips for the most part. Yet the motivations and actions of the gods are a puzzle to him, which helps define what’s happening and where things are going.

GX: Will we see the rest of the Time Stealers in this story, and/or will these guys be rebuilding their team as the plot moves along? Obviously with Rip, Waverider and the Linear Men not always being on the same side together, there’s the chance of the Time Stealers ending up teamed with some of those characters as the story starts to unfold…!

DJ: Yes, yes and yes!

GX: So according to Keith and J.M., Michelle has grown up into her own person, and doesn’t “need” to be Goldstar anymore. Has our Michelle had a particular revelation to put her back in the costume, or is this another example of a story that falls into the Giffenverse, in terms of their Booster Gold being only marginally in-continuity?

DJ: I don’t think we’re that much apart at all. Michelle was alone at the time lab when the time stealers showed up. Seems a natural to me for her to put on the costume as a measure of defense. That’s still a long way from putting it on to go fight alongside the JLA.

GX: Certainly Daniel and Michelle are looking more confident and heroic than they have been in the recent past; will we get to see what happened to prepare them for this story?

DJ: As I said, I think Michelle is consistent with where she’s been recently. Daniel is a bit of a different matter, and that will be dealt with.

GX: Certainly with Claw coming up next, this series looks to have a lot of the same thing going on as your (and Geoff’s) Booster monthly did: stomping through the history of the DC Universe, encountering all manner of unlikely characters along the way. Is it difficult to keep things focused on the story’s endgame while taking a tour through (pre)history?

DJ: Not as much as you might think. For those who’ve seen Claw before, either in his original appearances or more recently in Wonder Woman, it might be fun to see him again. For readers who have no idea who he is, they might still appreciate the barbarian aspect of the story. The trick is to tell an entertaining story while making sure to tie everything up by the end.

Note: It was announced Sunday at Comic Con that Booster Gold and Blue Beetle Jaime Reyes will be appearing in Smallville during the upcoming season, in an episode written by former Booster Gold writer Geoff Johns. This will require a conversation all its own, once the episode gets closer and I’ve had a chance to talk to Johns. Dan wasn’t available to stay for the Smallville panel this weekend, but told me he was excited to see the first-ever live action interpretation of the character.

 
17 Responses to “The Gold Exchange: Dan Jurgens on Time Masters: Vanishing Point #1”
  1. Kevin Says:

    Thanks for asking my question Russ,and great interview.

  2. Black Manta Says:

    More Gold!

  3. Roland Says:

    Excellent Interview. The team of Jurgens and Rapmund are the stuff of legend!

  4. HellBlazerRaiser Says:

    I thought the first issue was pretty good. It was simple and interesting. Plus, Jurgens art is classic and timeless.

  5. RocketeerZ Says:

    The first issue was fantastic. I love the teaming of Jurgens and Rapmund and I’m very glad to see the direction that Booster and Rip are taking in the DCU. To be able to have three titles a month (four really since one is bi-weekly) with Booster a main part of is great.

    I feel Booster is no longer a “Z” or “C” list character but the company itself considers him in the “B” level along characters like Hawkman, Aquaman, Supergirl, Green Arrow, Black Canary, etc. That is good to see. I look VERY forward to the rest of this series and how it’ll tie into Flashpoint.

  6. Chitty Says:

    I’m so happy with all the love that Booster Gold is getting these days! He’s EVERYWHERE now! He’s currently in 4 titles: Booster Gold, Generation Lost, Return of Bruce Wayne, and this new series. I love it!

  7. Ted Kord Says:

    Yay for Booster. But what about me?

  8. Erin Says:

    Great interview, it answered some of my questions. The only other ones I would have is how Linear Man Hunter fits with this Rip Hunter (which I think we’ll see) and when this takes place in regards to JLGL. Regardless, it’s great to see Booster in so many books a month.

  9. Scott Says:

    So far, I haven’t enjoyed Keith Giffen on BOOSTER GOLD, so maybe this series is where I can get the Booster I enjoy.

  10. HollaAtYa-Boy Says:

    Dan Jurgens is a master of the form. Rapmund’s inks have only gotten better and better. Their stuff looks gorgeous with colors by Hi-Fi.

    My favorite thing about Dan is his writing. The way he handled Superman’s anguish at not being allowed to save those sick and dying people was heartwrenching. Even in a cameo his Supes is the definitive Man of Steel. Can someone PLEASE get him back on Superman as writer-artist for one last epic year-long story?

  11. Manwich Says:

    HollaAtYa-Boy, I’d not thought of that, but, yeah, we need more Jurgens Superman. I personally think of his visual when I think of Superman. That typed, I’d kind of like to read him with a writing partner- someone to kick his @$s and keep him moving, ’cause fast-paced he ain’t.

  12. Kevin Says:

    I agree Rocketeer…I think Booster has definately risen to be one of the top B level characters, and will cement that if they do infact put him in a second book (which I think they will…I have a feeling that the JLI is going to get its own book, with Booster taking a lead role..even if he has to don the Supernova costume again to do so…or they will do a Time Master book to focus on Rip, Goldstar, Daniel Carter Supernova and the returning Linear Men).

    Add in the fact that Geoff Johns picked him and Beetle to do as his final episode of Smallville (and the rumors that such an episode may be a backdoor pilot for Blue Beetle with Booster being a recurring character), as well as Booster being hinted at being a major player in Flashpoint (I sense he might end up being in a similar role as Flash or Atom or Mera were in Blackest Night)…and Booster has definitely become an important character.

    Now all DC has to do is cast me as Booster in Smallville…

  13. Ian Says:

    The first issue was out last week?!? Noooo…. must buy now!

  14. Boosterrific Says:

    Quote: “Where in the Batman story does this issue fall?”

    Russ, I’m so glad that you asked that question. Of course I consider myself an expert in Booster’s chronology, and I had to read the issue 3 times to be certain that I understood what Jurgens was after. Not that I’m complaining. It’s an unusually chaotic issue for Jurgens, but I suspect that is mostly a result of trying to dovetail his tangentially related Rip Hunter story into a Grant Morrison tale. Their storytelling styles aren’t exactly compatible.

  15. AndersAnd65 Says:

    Quote:
    Chitty Says: July 27th, 2010 at 11:01 am
    I’m so happy with all the love that Booster Gold is getting these days! He’s EVERYWHERE now! He’s currently in 4 titles: Booster Gold, Generation Lost, Return of Bruce Wayne, and this new series. I love it!

    So, IS Booster Gold DC’s Deadpool??? *LOL*

  16. Robt. Says:

    Did anyone notice that DJ kinda ducks answering when asked about Daniel’s preparation for his role in Time Masters? I was suspicious of whether it was even Daniel in the Supernova suit at all. Could have been another member of the Carter clan. Maybe Rip’s son? Or if it is Daniel, maybe it’s a Daniel Carter from years in the future, since the wearer of the suit doesn’t age while they have it on?

  17. Russ Burlingame Says:

    Robt. – My guess? Daniel Carter has been undergoing behind-the-scenes training by Waverider (unbeknownst to Rip) in preparation for the role he has to play during Time Masters: Vanishing Point.

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