My discontent comes not from the fact that he’s been cast as two different Marvel characters, but from the fact that he wasn’t very good the first time, so why would they feel like he deserved another one?

If they roughen him up around the edges, and he puts on some muscle, I think he could pull it off. He was all right in “Push”.

Actually, I couldn’t disagree with these posts more. Evan’s take on Johnny/Human Torch in both the recent FF films was something that they got right. He played him as a brash, hot headed young man who reveled in gaining his powers (as most people his age probably would). And he w as an excellent foil to Chiklis’ Ben/Thing. As for the rest of both films…. well, there’s not enough space here to cover all the producers/director/writers got wrong, but Evans Torch wasn’t one of them.

All that said, unless he has some range and abilities that he has yet to show in any of his work, I’m not sure if he’s a right fit for the part.

Though we’re all probably assuming that the script and film will cover the character we know from the comics. The movie industry has shown us in the past that they’re not always as loyal to the original written source as the readers would hope they’d be.

Aside from being super hot and hunky gorgeous, Chris Evans is physically perfect for the role. While his acting wasn’t bad in FF (I went to see the movie and bought the DVDs because of him), hopefully it has improved and his range has broadened. Good choice Marvel! Now just hone his acting and make the stud pack a few more pounds of muscle.

I remember Evans fron Cellular and Sunshine, and thought he was pretty cool. I loved his Johnny Storm, and think he’s a good actor.
Having said that, I firmly believe he is NOT Captain America… but I also thought Ledger was not the Joker and man what a surprise that was.
So I guess the smart thing to do is wait and see.

I also agree that he was awesome in “Sunshine.” Worth checking out if you are wondering about his ability to take charge.

Richard was also right, Evans was the only good thing in the F4 movies.

I think he would work pretty well.

Hmm… too young, don’t seem like a good choice.

Peace.

I’ll admit that while I don’t find him ideal, he is certainly leagues better than 90% of the names thrown around for this role, and a better actor than most. Remember these guys have to work, and can’t always help it if they land roles that seem to typecast them. Outside of Evans, Hedlund is pretty much the only other guy with a decent demonstrated acting range, and I just don’t think I could buy him physically. That being said, cross your fingers and hope for a good script. Marvel Studios didn’t disappont with Iron Man or Incredible Hulk, so until they show otherwise, I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt.

I have to concur with both Axon. Evans was great in Sunshine. I didn’t mind him in the FF movies, he “got” the character and put his best foot forward with the material he had (like the rest of the movies’ casts).

If this winds up being true, I can’t wait to see his Cap.

As a side note, I wonder if they screen tested him with RDJ and Chris Hemsworth?

please please god don’t give the part to him pleaseeeeee

My two cents:

The biggest problem I see is that we are supposed to be able to imagine the Avengers led by Captain America as played by Chris Evans. Can you picture Iron Man (RDJ) Thor (Chris Hensworth) or, if we’re lucky Hulk (Ed Norton)interacting with Evans?

I like him, but he’s too young in my opinion.

Evans was the perfect Johnny Storm, and his banter with Chiklis as Ben Grimm was one of the things those FF movies got right. Dude WAS the Torch. He was so iconic in the role, that it could be hard to picture him as Steve Rogers. I guess we might see…

(He’d definitely be better than Krasinski, who didn’t seem like a good fit at all…)

Have to do the old wait and see to see if he even takes the part. So far Captain America the First Avenger and Thor look iffy to me. I mean in Thor Hawkeye is going to show up but he will look nothing like in the comics? Sunglasses are going to make Hawkeye look cool? And Captain America might be altered so much who knows if he will even be allowed to say anything Pro American. Got to play for the worldwide box office. But again once in the theaters who knows what the final product will do.

I don’t think the problem is Chris Evans being too young, it’s that RDJ is too frikkin’ old. They are both supposed to be in their late 20′s or so when they start out.

I loved Iron Man and all that, but RDJ’s advanced age is going to make things different than the comics no matter what.

Doesn’t really matter how old Thor looks, of course.

Captain America IS young, guys. Transformed by the SSS at no more than 20-21 years old, and perhaps 25 when frozen … that’s young. The problem has been that in the comics, he was written and drawn as being more like 35, what with smoking a pipe (in some Golden Age stories), having a kid sidekick, calling Spider-Man “son,” (in at least one story I recall from the ’80s), commanding the likes of Iron Man and Thor around … he’s a VERY tough character to cast. I’ve been picturing Mark Valley as Cap since I saw him in “Keen Eddie” several years ago, but he really is too old for an origin-story Cap movie. The filmmakers HAD to go younger.

If indeed Evans was picked, my guess is that he displayed the right amount of gravitas for an under-30 guy out of all the actors screen-tested for the part. FWIW, I thought he was the best thing about the two FF movies, with Michael Chiklis a close second.

I do hope he puts on about 10 more pounds of muscle, tones down the Johnny Storm cockiness, and beefs up the Steve Rogers earnestness, clarity of purpose, and devotion to duty. I think he’ll do fine.

I like Evans, but i just cant see him not playing ‘cocky’ – and Cap is not cocky. I prefer Jensen Ackles as a name branded around, he seems like Cap to me

Just because he played the torch in the ff films should not mean that if Marvel thinks chris is perfect for cap that he should not be offered the role for all it means is he already has experiance int he marvel universe on film. besides Ryan Renolds is playing both Green Lantern and Dead pool. for there is nothing written about some one not playing more then one super hero on film. though he would have to dye his hair to be Steve.

Actually, for me Evans and Chiklis were the best part of the FF movies (The rest was pretty bad). I think he’s got what it takes to go toe to toe with RDJ’s Tony Stark. I’d have prefered Mark Valley or Chris Pine myself, but I think Chris Evans’ll do fine.

I wish everyone would just shut the fvck up about Mark Valley! He’s a TV actor! He’s 46 years old! He is about as emotive as a brick wall! He has never, EVER been considered for the role of Captain America! Put your KY Jelly and tissues away and stop crapping on and on about him! Just let it go!!

Chris Evans will be great in the role. People will get confused about Johnny Storm being Cap? What universe are you from dude? No one outside of your basement is going to even remember him from FF. Remember the outcry and confusion that occured when they cast the actor who played Horatio Hornblower for Mr Fantastic – the rioting and looting? No, ’cause it didn’t happen either!

Chris Evans has the acting chops to make this role his own. Too young? Garbage – like someone already posted, Downey Jnr is the problem as he’s too old. He was miscast as Tony Stark, but made the role his own because he was so charismatic. Besides, who’s to say Avengers will ever get made anyway? Better to concentrate on the here and now than a “what if?” scenarion.

Make mine Chris Evans. Fvck Mark Valley!

Since I didn’t see either FF movie, perhaps I can disassociate Human Torch from Captain America. But this news hardly thrilled me. All the actors out there and they go with someone who has already played an A-list Marvel character?? That is disconcerting and uninspired. I hope it doesn’t amount to more than a rumor.

And comparing this to Ryan Reynold’s situation is apples to oranges. I will never watch a Deadpool movie, but at least I know it’d be patently different from whatever they come up with in “Green Lantern.”

“I don’t think the problem is Chris Evans being too young, it’s that RDJ is too frikkin’ old. They are both supposed to be in their late 20’s or so when they start out.”

Are you kidding? RDJ was absolutely PERFECT for the role, and I wonder if the movie would’ve been half as good, or as successful, if anyone else had played Tony Stark. He looks younger than his 45 years, Norton looks younger than his 40, Christian Bale looks younger than his 36, Tobey McGuire than his 35, and so on.

I think these guys have all played their parts really well and they’re believable as the heroes they’ve played. They can pull off a younger look, but still bring the gravitas the roles require. If it ends up being Evans, maybe he will too, but on the surface I don’t see it. That may just be my bias against the FF movie showing though, I dunno. I just think the older, more experienced actors bring something the baby-faced younger actors don’t.

Hell, Tom Welling’s going to be 33 next month. Or how about all those actors on the original “90210″? They were all well past high school age. Apples and oranges, perhaps, but still.

I don’t know, it’s possible he could pull it off, but right now the most positive thing I can say is at least he’s not Tatum Channing (Channing Tatum? Frickin’ two last names…).

Some kid named Glenn said:
“I don’t think the problem is Chris Evans being too young, it’s that RDJ is too frikkin’ old. They are both supposed to be in their late 20’s or so when they start out.”

Steve Rogers, maybe, but there is no way that’s true of Tony Stark.

“I loved Iron Man and all that, but RDJ’s advanced age is going to make things different than the comics no matter what.”

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Classic Stark was pretty much on the threshold of middle age, mid-30s at least, easily.
What, are you some kind of bizarro-world teen-Tony fan?

Since they already have something of an unknown playing Thor there is an argument to be made that Cap needs a major actor or else it’s going to be the Robert Downey Jr show. And so far none of the people mentioned as a possible Captain America has much acting cred.

No worries! After all, if Hallie Berry could play both Storm and Catwoman, then why not…

(ducks as tomatoes fly)

Captain America is supposed to be someone that any of the Avengers is willing to go to hell and back for if he so asks it of them. He commands such respect that all of the Marvel Heroes follw him willingly into battle becaus they trust that he will get them through it.

Does this guy look like he could command such trust and respect from anyone?

I rest my case.

After reading all of the comments, one point is never brought up.
And it’s probably the most important point.

No, not important to the comic readers, fans or movie viewing audience, but most important to those who will make the decision.

MONEY $$$$$$!!!!!

Folks, I’m guessing that you’ll see Iron Man 2, Thor and the Cap film right? And you’ll all be anticipating an Avengers film right? Well, will you pay $20 to see it? $30???
Cause if the film makers listen to the fans the damn budget for The Avengers could top our National Deficit!! And they got to make back their budget somehow.

The Avengers could already star:
Robert Downey Jr.
Samuel L. Jackson
Scarlett Johansson (I think that the Black Widow has been mentioned to be in the film)
Ed Norton (if they include the Hulk)
Don Cheadle (if they include War Machine AND a black super hero, unless the producers consider Fury a super hero)
Gwyneth Paltrow & Liv Tyler (as cameo supporting cast scenes AND for some female characters)
William Hurt (perhaps a small part, to tie in The Hulk film)

And I’m not even including a possibility of any of the Thor cast getting scenes.
Look at that list and consider a budget, just for the talent alone? And you still need to cast Hawkeye, Loki, Wasp, Ant Man/Giant Man…

So an unknown or an actor with a small resume of work as Captain America?
If you want a workable Avengers film, then yeah, that’s gonna happen.

If you don’t care about any future films, then yeah, cast the biggest name you can find.

Hey, Monkey Knuckles, I don’t mind if someone has a differeing opinion than I do, but mind your language and your tone. What’s with the KY reference? Totally uncalled for and very undignified. I know this is an internet forum and certain behavior is to be expected, but c’mon. Someone having an opinion you do not like or agree with gets a response about their sexual habbits? Really? Whatever, man. However, for the record Robert Downey Jr is 45 years old and you’re crabbing about Mark Valley being 46. OK.

Good for him. No worries guys. every actor got him own chance.

beane2099; Censorship Nazi. Un-American. Captain America villain.

I could deal with this info by itself, but when you consider this is the guy we’d be seeing in that USO bit? Ugh.

Oh… and all the guys who are worried about money: did any of you read the NYTimes article about how Gwyneth got paid just USD500k for Iron Man? I’m betting that Avengers will see a deal very much like this with the secondary roles getting a fixed % of the gross domestic receipts.

The new economics of Hollywood dictate that more of an actor’s pay comes as a portion of the gross — so if a movie does well, that actor could get paid more potentially.

I think it’s hilarious that you all are worried about someone’s acting ability to play the role of Captain America…all he needs is to look the part. But the posters who say Evans can’t act should see Sunshine, fantastic movie and he did a great job. It’s all about the script my fellow nerds.

I say wait and see. He hasn’t even accepted, for one. For another, he’s not a bad actor. The FF movies were bad, not the actors. Michael Chiklis is amazing in the Shield, Ioan Grufford has a pretty accomplished resume, Julian McMahon is excellent in Nip/Tuck, and yes Chris Evans was awesome in Sunshine. FF’s script and directing killed everyone in it, not the other way around.

Also, look at recent comic movie casting choices. RDJ as IM was controversial. People didn’t like Chris Hemsworth at Thor at first, but now everyone’s excited. No one liked Ledger as the Joker, and then he won an Oscar for it. So Evans could turn out to be fine.

I think he can bulk up, and he can handle the physicality and action. I just wonder if he can project that “Captain America leadership” by the end of the film and in the Avengers movie. That’s the challenge.

I kind of pictured John Cena from the WWE as Cap. He has got the build and I thought he was kinda good in The Marine. He may not be the best actor, but I think he would look better as a Super Soldier than any of the other guys I’ve heard mentioned for the role.

This is a good choice, especially considering that Channing Tatum’s name popped up recently. To everyone who says he was bad in FF, was he really? What I saw was a terrible movie and terribly cast, except Evans nailed Johnny Storm. And the problem about portraying two heroes? Considering they’re rebooting Fantastic Four it’s a moot point, it’ll be like the first suckfest movies didn’t exist.

Evans is a great choice and will nail Steve Rogers. Anyone who doubts it look at the casting for Iron Man and Incredible Hulk, not a bad casting move in either movie by the same studio.

“The more I think about Cap’s face the way its depicted in the books the more I realize that he’s pretty much the most generic looking superhero around.”

This just gave me a great idea: after Cap, Evans should also play Clint Barton and Hank Pym, and every other blond guy who looked identical in the comics (using the familiar old SFX techniques when the characters have to interact). That way, nobody could complain about unfaithfulness to the source material.

beane2099:

“However, for the record Robert Downey Jr is 45 years old and you’re crabbing about Mark Valley being 46. OK.”

While I agree that the guy’s rudeness was uncalled for, there’s really no inconsistency there. Steve Rogers is supposed to be quite young, just out of his teens, when he gets the Super-Soldier serum; Tony Stark is an accomplished industrialist, inventor and corporate CEO when he builds the Iron Man armour.
People who think RDJ was (or is) too old for the role don’t know what they’re talking about. Or maybe they’re basing their conclusions on invalid stuff that doesn’t count, like “Heroes Reborn” or something…

Can I please ask the world of fandom to stop using the word gravitas in every discussion on casting? And which fanboy wet dream used the word that you guys have latched onto it? Was it Bruce Cambell, Nathan Fillion, John Hamm or Ron Perlman? It’s especially hilarious when applied to the casting of a comic book character. This isn’t Willy Loman or Titus Andronicus we’re talking about for Christ’s sake.

AFAIK, Steve Rogers pre-Super Soldier Serum was a wimpy young guy. Steve Rogers post-SSS was a big, super-athletic, man-looking hero. But then, the movie will probably have a different take than this…

Just because he’s early 20s in the story, doesn’t mean he has to LOOK early 20s. Someone earlier mentioned that you don’t have to look like a leader to be a good leader- while that’s true, it’s literally PART of the character that he already LOOKS like a leader (in and out of this American flag costume). You should just be able to see him and want to follow him, not require him to first give you an impassioned speech. Heck, the classic Hollywood formula isn’t suited to having a character like Capt. America NOT look like a cheesy, goody-goody Golden Age hero- someone like Evans would require the entire movie to progressively show you that he’s this person, rather than tell you this in the first 5 minutes of his appearance (which Hollywood wants to do).

@Ed: I agree with you, I think Evans would be better cast as Hawk-Eye. Say what you will about type-casting, it’s a role we know he can nail.

Matt, to be clear I have no problem myself with an older actor playing Cap (they could have another actor, who looks enough like the star, to play skinny young pre-serum Steve), I just always will differ with anyone who thinks that Tony Stark is “meant to be” in his frickin’ 20s and actually seems to think that the comics back up such a ridiculous argument.
I was just objecting to anyone using that as an argument, not with the idea of Valley or Cooper or Eckhart or other actors who some people have objected to as being “too old.”
If you disagree, and think those actors should still play Cap, then fine, but if you cite RDJ as being “too old” for Stark as part of your counterargument, then you undermine your position by being stupid and wrong.

I don’t think Michael Keaton will make a good Batman when the movie comes out in 1990.

Oh, I didn’t say you did, Matt. I also have no problem with your take on Cap`s age/apparent age. I think we were arguing (with others) from basically the same side, then somehow got turned around.

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PAUL WALKER (Fast and the Furious, *Running Scared*) has the 1930′s tuff, gritty, good guy look we need for Steve Rogers/Captain America.

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3305019648/tt0232500

Evans can act, >>>Just not right for Steve Rogers<<>>BETTER CHOICE<<<

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Yo, PAUL WALKER was kick-ass in *Running Scared* and can pull off Steve Rogers!

Posting, ” What about INSERT ACTOR HERE” is a complete waste of time.

It’s down to Chris Evans, Channing Tatum and Sebastian Stan.
Chris Evans is Marvel’s first choice, and it boils down to a.) whether he wants the role, and b.) IF he can accept the role as he’s already set to shoot to the rom-com “What’s Your Number?” which is scheduled to shoot this summer, the same time when Cap begins filming in London.

As for debates regarding age – again a waste of time. It doesn’t matter what age Steve Rogers became Cap in the Marvel Universe. The film is set in its own universe and is only based upon elements from the comics. Sure, you could cast an 18 – 21 yr old to reflect the comic, but it doesn’t stop them from casting a 25 – 35 yr old either (or older). What, only young men wanted to serve, or served in WW2? Check out Tom Hanks in Saving Private Ryan and Brad Pitt in Inglorious Basterds. Steve McQueen, Clint Eastwood in all those WW2 films. Too old? I don’t think so. It would be simple to convincingly tweak the origin to show a 25 – 35 yr old Steve Rogers desperate to serve his country. The age of Steve Rogers when he took the serum is irrelevant. The only issue regarding the age of the actor is in terms of longevity of the franchise.

Chris Evans is the right age to ensure longevity of the franchise if Cap is a hit. It’s a physical role that requires an actor who can convince the audience he is capable of great physical feats (unlike Iron Man where the suit does all the work).

Chris Evans would be a great fit for the role and is certainly charismatic enough to give Downey Jnr a run for his money – that is, if Avengers EVER gets made (which sounds highly dubious – but a great marketing strategy).

I predict if Evans accepts the role his publicist, Paramount, & his agents will go do a major rebranding effort to get product that out there puts more out there on Chris Evans than just FF.

1) Expect more airplay of “Not another Teen Movie” (pretty stupid and funny) and “Cellular” (Ensemble cast). Lots more.
2) Expect everything that “CAN” be released of his already completed films to be released…with more focus on his roles…
3) Expect major cameos and guest appearences on geek friendly/critic friendly guy TV like….Mad Men, Big Bang Theory, Psych (someone on the show makes a rip off movie of Sean and Gus starring Evans and Taye Diggs), Entourage, Breaking Bad, Leverage, Chuck etc…If Nip/Tuck were still on the air I would get him on that in a second.

This will help out a lot.
JFH

Terrible choice. And I had such high hopes for a quality Captain America movie. John Krazinski would have been a better choice. At least the guy can act.

pack on the muscles firt then let me see him in costume if not dont even bother reading the lines

I’m not seeing this one, Chris Evans had his chance at playing a marvel hero twice it’s not fair he should get another. The film should have some one different to distinguish it from the rest of the marvel films. I’m boycotting it unless they recast it, otherwise I’d wish it was never made at all.

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