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	<title>Comments on: Apples to Apples, Auctions to Auctions, Batman to Superman</title>
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		<title>By: Travel Offers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travel Offers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man I like this article and it was so informational and I am gonna save it. I Have to say the Superb analysis this article has is greatly remarkable.No one goes that extra mile these days? Well Done!! Just one more tip you shouldinstall a Translator for your Worldwide Readers !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man I like this article and it was so informational and I am gonna save it. I Have to say the Superb analysis this article has is greatly remarkable.No one goes that extra mile these days? Well Done!! Just one more tip you shouldinstall a Translator for your Worldwide Readers !!</p>
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		<title>By: medyum</title>
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		<dc:creator>medyum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 14:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The studies on this topic and the work of this character has a very happy thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The studies on this topic and the work of this character has a very happy thank you</p>
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		<title>By: aluguel projetor</title>
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		<dc:creator>aluguel projetor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 04:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your article help me a lot for my job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your article help me a lot for my job.</p>
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		<title>By: Joan Dooley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joan Dooley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/user/WafflePlusPancake

check it out!</description>
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<p>check it out!</p>
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		<title>By: JOHN</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOHN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 06:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am ready to pay 2 million dollars for the original Superman Action comics if it makes this crazy debate settled. Where can we get the original Superman Action comics now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am ready to pay 2 million dollars for the original Superman Action comics if it makes this crazy debate settled. Where can we get the original Superman Action comics now?</p>
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		<title>By: John J</title>
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		<dc:creator>John J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And they&#039;re both sealed away in plastic forever, never to have the interior looked at again. They might as well be covers wrapped around last week&#039;s Spidey.  Not that you would want to read a comic you paid a million for but the whole concept of CGC remains alien to me. At least with a sealed trading card you can see both sides of what you have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they&#8217;re both sealed away in plastic forever, never to have the interior looked at again. They might as well be covers wrapped around last week&#8217;s Spidey.  Not that you would want to read a comic you paid a million for but the whole concept of CGC remains alien to me. At least with a sealed trading card you can see both sides of what you have.</p>
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		<title>By: Herb Finn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb Finn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless for what was paid for each,both were good investments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless for what was paid for each,both were good investments.</p>
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		<title>By: RayComics</title>
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		<dc:creator>RayComics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did the person shop around? You can not use Sales Tax as an example. In California, if I buy my newspaper from a machine it is $1.00. If I buy it at a convenience store over the counter I must pay the sales tax so the paper costs me $1.08. What is the value here? If I am more prudent with my evaluations and shopping I can get the best deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did the person shop around? You can not use Sales Tax as an example. In California, if I buy my newspaper from a machine it is $1.00. If I buy it at a convenience store over the counter I must pay the sales tax so the paper costs me $1.08. What is the value here? If I am more prudent with my evaluations and shopping I can get the best deal.</p>
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		<title>By: jpbl1976</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpbl1976</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The buyer paid more for Detective Comics 27. Transaction costs always figure into the price of a transaction. It&#039;s not like the guy who bought Detective Comics 27 could walk away with it without paying the auction house&#039;s commission; the commission was part of the total cost of ownership. 

It&#039;s not even a debate. It&#039;s a fact. 

As Darren said:

&quot;Action Comics #1 CGC 8.0 sold for $1 million
Detective Comics #27 CGC 8.0 sold for $1.075 million

The Detective sold for more, case closed.&quot;

Indeed. I think those arguing in favor of Action Comics are letting their personal bias affect their better sense; this isn&#039;t about which character is better.

Rather, it&#039;s about how much a collector is willing to pay for a piece of contemporary art -- and that price includes any commissions, finder&#039;s fees, taxes or any other cash outlay on the part of the buyer that was necessary to complete the purchase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The buyer paid more for Detective Comics 27. Transaction costs always figure into the price of a transaction. It&#8217;s not like the guy who bought Detective Comics 27 could walk away with it without paying the auction house&#8217;s commission; the commission was part of the total cost of ownership. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not even a debate. It&#8217;s a fact. </p>
<p>As Darren said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Action Comics #1 CGC 8.0 sold for $1 million<br />
Detective Comics #27 CGC 8.0 sold for $1.075 million</p>
<p>The Detective sold for more, case closed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed. I think those arguing in favor of Action Comics are letting their personal bias affect their better sense; this isn&#8217;t about which character is better.</p>
<p>Rather, it&#8217;s about how much a collector is willing to pay for a piece of contemporary art &#8212; and that price includes any commissions, finder&#8217;s fees, taxes or any other cash outlay on the part of the buyer that was necessary to complete the purchase.</p>
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		<title>By: Goober</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/02/26/apples-to-apples-auctions-to-auctions-batman-to-superman/comment-page-1/#comment-487152</link>
		<dc:creator>Goober</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always paid tax on comics living in Nevada, California, and Virginia.</description>
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		<title>By: Timon</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/02/26/apples-to-apples-auctions-to-auctions-batman-to-superman/comment-page-1/#comment-487146</link>
		<dc:creator>Timon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a cool infographic comparing the two here:- http://www.bme.eu.com/news/superman-v-batman/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a cool infographic comparing the two here:- <a href="http://www.bme.eu.com/news/superman-v-batman/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bme.eu.com/news/superman-v-batman/</a></p>
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		<title>By: miracleman2112</title>
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		<dc:creator>miracleman2112</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 03:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t matter which is better. I&#039;d like to see the industry if anyone of the two wouldn&#039;t have been published. They are both the grails of the industry. And they both are worth the seven figures. Thats all there is to it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter which is better. I&#8217;d like to see the industry if anyone of the two wouldn&#8217;t have been published. They are both the grails of the industry. And they both are worth the seven figures. Thats all there is to it</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 01:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real winners are the people who sold the 1st appearance of Batman issue. Second winner is the guy who paid less for Action Comics #1 than the Detective Comics #27.

Batman is more lucrative as a character, but in terms of investments if someone told me to pick between Action Comics #1 and Detective Comics #27 I&#039;d have to go with Action Comics #1 for reasons already mentioned.

And the comics are only as valuable as someone will pay for them. How much money could the buyer expect to make on DC #27 when he sells it vs the person who bought AC#1?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real winners are the people who sold the 1st appearance of Batman issue. Second winner is the guy who paid less for Action Comics #1 than the Detective Comics #27.</p>
<p>Batman is more lucrative as a character, but in terms of investments if someone told me to pick between Action Comics #1 and Detective Comics #27 I&#8217;d have to go with Action Comics #1 for reasons already mentioned.</p>
<p>And the comics are only as valuable as someone will pay for them. How much money could the buyer expect to make on DC #27 when he sells it vs the person who bought AC#1?</p>
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		<title>By: patman</title>
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		<dc:creator>patman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 08:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>batman wins.  the private sale of action comics #1 could have been just a PR attempt to drum up interest/awareness of the new auction house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>batman wins.  the private sale of action comics #1 could have been just a PR attempt to drum up interest/awareness of the new auction house.</p>
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		<title>By: Geeksville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geeksville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 03:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Little Heart -

I have lived in Michigan, New Hampshire, New York, Connecticut, New Jersey, and Virginia  I have never paid sales tax on Comics.

I have also toured the US (46 states) I believe I have paid tax on comics, but not often</description>
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<p>I have lived in Michigan, New Hampshire, New York, Connecticut, New Jersey, and Virginia  I have never paid sales tax on Comics.</p>
<p>I have also toured the US (46 states) I believe I have paid tax on comics, but not often</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Genest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Genest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 02:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Jason1040 :First I sincerely hope for you that you do not rhink that Wizard is the best guide to base your decision about what to pay for your comics because my poor friend you will probably end up paying too much for some books(Like flavor of the month books and Variants LOL)and probably sell way to low for some other ones (Principaly most of older books from 1980 and down).Everybody knows that the BEST guide is the Overstreet(But DO remember that it is a GUIDE and it is NOT called The BIBLE for very obvious reasons....just look at the two million dollard sales from this week!!!!)

As for the premium it is clearly stated when you go to Heritage if OR when they ask a premium and how much it is so there is no question that the guy/gall who bought it knew there was a premium to pay.So it did not sell for 900 000$ BUT 900 000$+premium=1.075 million! Or like Stan would say:Nuff Said!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Jason1040 :First I sincerely hope for you that you do not rhink that Wizard is the best guide to base your decision about what to pay for your comics because my poor friend you will probably end up paying too much for some books(Like flavor of the month books and Variants LOL)and probably sell way to low for some other ones (Principaly most of older books from 1980 and down).Everybody knows that the BEST guide is the Overstreet(But DO remember that it is a GUIDE and it is NOT called The BIBLE for very obvious reasons&#8230;.just look at the two million dollard sales from this week!!!!)</p>
<p>As for the premium it is clearly stated when you go to Heritage if OR when they ask a premium and how much it is so there is no question that the guy/gall who bought it knew there was a premium to pay.So it did not sell for 900 000$ BUT 900 000$+premium=1.075 million! Or like Stan would say:Nuff Said!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Duque</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Duque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A recent Harvard grad&#039;s thoughts on the cultural implications of the online sales of high-priced comic books -- namely, Action Comics No. 1 and Detective Comics No. 27: 

http://stevenduque.com/2010/02/zeitgeist-supermans-first-comic-sells-online-for-1m/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A recent Harvard grad&#8217;s thoughts on the cultural implications of the online sales of high-priced comic books &#8212; namely, Action Comics No. 1 and Detective Comics No. 27: </p>
<p><a href="http://stevenduque.com/2010/02/zeitgeist-supermans-first-comic-sells-online-for-1m/" rel="nofollow">http://stevenduque.com/2010/02/zeitgeist-supermans-first-comic-sells-online-for-1m/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dominic</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2010/02/26/apples-to-apples-auctions-to-auctions-batman-to-superman/comment-page-1/#comment-486998</link>
		<dc:creator>Dominic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DC won.  Good publicity for their characters and their comics.</description>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Action Comics #1 CGC 8.0 sold for $1 million
Detective Comics #27 CGC 8.0 sold for $1.075 million

The Detective sold for more, case closed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Action Comics #1 CGC 8.0 sold for $1 million<br />
Detective Comics #27 CGC 8.0 sold for $1.075 million</p>
<p>The Detective sold for more, case closed.</p>
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		<title>By: Little Heart Records</title>
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		<dc:creator>Little Heart Records</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike...


Where do you live you don&#039;t pay tax on comics for being periodicals? Everything I buy on the magazine rack has tax... This sounds like it might be isolated to where you live. Lots of cities have different taxes on different things... but I have always paid sales tax on comics in every place I have lived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike&#8230;</p>
<p>Where do you live you don&#8217;t pay tax on comics for being periodicals? Everything I buy on the magazine rack has tax&#8230; This sounds like it might be isolated to where you live. Lots of cities have different taxes on different things&#8230; but I have always paid sales tax on comics in every place I have lived.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy Raiko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy Raiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jlaking: &quot;What were the condition of the books, we cannot compare them if we do not know the condition?&quot;

Both were CGC rated at an 8.0 condition, according to the various reports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jlaking: &#8220;What were the condition of the books, we cannot compare them if we do not know the condition?&#8221;</p>
<p>Both were CGC rated at an 8.0 condition, according to the various reports.</p>
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		<title>By: bg</title>
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		<dc:creator>bg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 14:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon Browne for the win</description>
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		<title>By: GiggleMeThis</title>
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		<dc:creator>GiggleMeThis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 13:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth be told. The Detective #27 was sold at a public auction hence can be legitimatized while the Action #1 was sold privately. Can anyone really say it was? Hands down -A Batman Fan! 

Someone stepped on Supermans cape that day. It&#039;s now history. Worlds most expensive comic! Today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth be told. The Detective #27 was sold at a public auction hence can be legitimatized while the Action #1 was sold privately. Can anyone really say it was? Hands down -A Batman Fan! </p>
<p>Someone stepped on Supermans cape that day. It&#8217;s now history. Worlds most expensive comic! Today.</p>
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		<title>By: TattsDeej</title>
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		<dc:creator>TattsDeej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad:  &quot;Well, Batman still remains more popular than Superman — look at the box office revenue of “The Dark Knight” compared to “Superman Returns.” However, if this Nolan/Goyer/Nolan rumor about “The Man of Steel” is correct, then there may be a change…or not.&quot;


This is the REAL comparison &quot;Apples to Oranges&quot;
Superman Returns was released around the same time as Batman Begins and outperformed it in the Box Office.  You can&#039;t compare Superman Returns to Dark Knight when you&#039;re talking Box office returns.  

As Far as Nolan/Goyer Superman re-boot.  Don&#039;t get your hopes too high, no one wants to admit it...but had Heath Ledger lived, you could pretty much cut Dark Knight&#039;s box office returns in half.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad:  &#8220;Well, Batman still remains more popular than Superman — look at the box office revenue of “The Dark Knight” compared to “Superman Returns.” However, if this Nolan/Goyer/Nolan rumor about “The Man of Steel” is correct, then there may be a change…or not.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the REAL comparison &#8220;Apples to Oranges&#8221;<br />
Superman Returns was released around the same time as Batman Begins and outperformed it in the Box Office.  You can&#8217;t compare Superman Returns to Dark Knight when you&#8217;re talking Box office returns.  </p>
<p>As Far as Nolan/Goyer Superman re-boot.  Don&#8217;t get your hopes too high, no one wants to admit it&#8230;but had Heath Ledger lived, you could pretty much cut Dark Knight&#8217;s box office returns in half.</p>
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		<title>By: tattsdeej</title>
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		<dc:creator>tattsdeej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah the movie debate. You can NOT compare Dark Knight to superman returns in terms of box office returns.  You CAN compare Superman returns to Batman begins. Superman returns took home more money in initial box office run.  Sorry fanboys.  Besides, had Heath Ledger lived, you could pretty much cut Dark Knight&#039;s box office in half</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah the movie debate. You can NOT compare Dark Knight to superman returns in terms of box office returns.  You CAN compare Superman returns to Batman begins. Superman returns took home more money in initial box office run.  Sorry fanboys.  Besides, had Heath Ledger lived, you could pretty much cut Dark Knight&#8217;s box office in half</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would it matter how the proceeds are split up? The money leaving the buyer&#039;s pocket in order for him to have Detective Comics #27 in his hands is $1.075 million.  Trip-EL and Colossus, I understand what you&#039;re saying, but I&#039;m not sure if you get what I&#039;m saying.  You&#039;re right, the fair market value of a house would be the price before commission, but that doesn&#039;t change what you paid for it.  It would then make sense for you to think the comic would work the same way, but it doesn&#039;t.  Auction houses don&#039;t work off fair market value, nor do they set a single price. They give a range and they base it off of previous selling prices (which includes the premium because it is inherent in the act of buying/selling at auction).  We can&#039;t actually know this, but I would assume if it were put in an auction tomorrow, the range would be 1,000,000 - 1,100,000 or thereabouts because that is what it sold for.  On an auction website, the historical selling price will be 1.075 million because the premium is included with the historical selling price. I&#039;m sorry, but Batman wins.  The fact that Comics Connect doesn&#039;t have a premium does not make the two incomparable. It is irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would it matter how the proceeds are split up? The money leaving the buyer&#8217;s pocket in order for him to have Detective Comics #27 in his hands is $1.075 million.  Trip-EL and Colossus, I understand what you&#8217;re saying, but I&#8217;m not sure if you get what I&#8217;m saying.  You&#8217;re right, the fair market value of a house would be the price before commission, but that doesn&#8217;t change what you paid for it.  It would then make sense for you to think the comic would work the same way, but it doesn&#8217;t.  Auction houses don&#8217;t work off fair market value, nor do they set a single price. They give a range and they base it off of previous selling prices (which includes the premium because it is inherent in the act of buying/selling at auction).  We can&#8217;t actually know this, but I would assume if it were put in an auction tomorrow, the range would be 1,000,000 &#8211; 1,100,000 or thereabouts because that is what it sold for.  On an auction website, the historical selling price will be 1.075 million because the premium is included with the historical selling price. I&#8217;m sorry, but Batman wins.  The fact that Comics Connect doesn&#8217;t have a premium does not make the two incomparable. It is irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Batman still remains more popular than Superman -- look at the box office revenue of &quot;The Dark Knight&quot; compared to &quot;Superman Returns.&quot;  However, if this Nolan/Goyer/Nolan rumor about &quot;The Man of Steel&quot; is correct, then there may be a change...or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Batman still remains more popular than Superman &#8212; look at the box office revenue of &#8220;The Dark Knight&#8221; compared to &#8220;Superman Returns.&#8221;  However, if this Nolan/Goyer/Nolan rumor about &#8220;The Man of Steel&#8221; is correct, then there may be a change&#8230;or not.</p>
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		<title>By: jlaking</title>
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		<dc:creator>jlaking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What were the condition of the books, we cannot compare them if we do not know the condition?</description>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, while your point remains valid... there is not tax for comics because they are considered periodicals.  bla bla bla.  I&#039;m wasting people&#039;s time and taking away fromt he actual debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, while your point remains valid&#8230; there is not tax for comics because they are considered periodicals.  bla bla bla.  I&#8217;m wasting people&#8217;s time and taking away fromt he actual debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Colossus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colossus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thunderfist:  Comics Connect charges commission on the SELLER, not the buyer.  So the buyer bid $1m for the book.  Incidentally, Heritage Auctions charges not just 19.5% on the buyer, but 16-17% on the SELLER.  So Heritage makes 35% on each sale.  Not a bad business to be in.

Ben: think of it like buying a house.  If a house is for sale for $900k and you buy it at that, that&#039;s not what you PAY.  Perhaps you pay a 1% commission to the broker as a finder&#039;s fee, plus there&#039;s closing costs.  So all in, you PAY, say $925k.  Now, when the neighbor wants to sell their house and they get a fair-market appraisal, the comp will be based on recently sold houses in the area.  Will the comp be $900 or $925 because of fees?  It&#039;s going to be $900.

Put another way, if another Detective #27, CGC 8.0 went on the market today, would the bid now be $1.1m because of the total price paid yesterday?  Well, that&#039;s a 22% markup over the high BID of yesterday&#039;s winner.  But let&#039;s say that someone does buy the book for $1.1m.  Now THEY have to pay a 19.5% buyer&#039;s premium, so does that mean the value of the book is now hyper-inflated to a little over $1.3m?  Basically every time this book gets listed on Heritage Auction&#039;s site, it will have at least a 19.5% increase in &quot;value&quot;.  Yet, sold on Comic Connect&#039;s site, without that buyer&#039;s premium, the &quot;value&quot; wouldn&#039;t inflate as fast.

Action Comics #1&#039;s value is one million dollars, because that was the winning bid, absent of fees.  Detective #27&#039;s value is $900k, because that was the winning bid, absent of fees.  That&#039;s the apples to apples comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thunderfist:  Comics Connect charges commission on the SELLER, not the buyer.  So the buyer bid $1m for the book.  Incidentally, Heritage Auctions charges not just 19.5% on the buyer, but 16-17% on the SELLER.  So Heritage makes 35% on each sale.  Not a bad business to be in.</p>
<p>Ben: think of it like buying a house.  If a house is for sale for $900k and you buy it at that, that&#8217;s not what you PAY.  Perhaps you pay a 1% commission to the broker as a finder&#8217;s fee, plus there&#8217;s closing costs.  So all in, you PAY, say $925k.  Now, when the neighbor wants to sell their house and they get a fair-market appraisal, the comp will be based on recently sold houses in the area.  Will the comp be $900 or $925 because of fees?  It&#8217;s going to be $900.</p>
<p>Put another way, if another Detective #27, CGC 8.0 went on the market today, would the bid now be $1.1m because of the total price paid yesterday?  Well, that&#8217;s a 22% markup over the high BID of yesterday&#8217;s winner.  But let&#8217;s say that someone does buy the book for $1.1m.  Now THEY have to pay a 19.5% buyer&#8217;s premium, so does that mean the value of the book is now hyper-inflated to a little over $1.3m?  Basically every time this book gets listed on Heritage Auction&#8217;s site, it will have at least a 19.5% increase in &#8220;value&#8221;.  Yet, sold on Comic Connect&#8217;s site, without that buyer&#8217;s premium, the &#8220;value&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t inflate as fast.</p>
<p>Action Comics #1&#8242;s value is one million dollars, because that was the winning bid, absent of fees.  Detective #27&#8242;s value is $900k, because that was the winning bid, absent of fees.  That&#8217;s the apples to apples comparison.</p>
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