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Things I Don’t Understand About DC Comics #436: Dan DiDio, comic book writer

January 7th, 2010
Author J. Caleb Mozzocco

I bought and read four new comic books yesterday, one of which was Weird Western Tales #71, one of those kinda clever Blackest Night tie-ins that are literally returning from the dead (if one considers long-canceled comic books to be literally dead).

When deciding whether or not to buy that particular comic book, weighing the various pluses and minuses on some half-subconscious level that Malcolm Gladwell has probably written a book about, one of the factors was who wrote it: DC’s Vice President/Executive Editor and public face of the company Dan DiDio.

For me personally, DiDio’s involvement was more of a question mark than a plus or a minus, and even after reading the book—which ended up being pretty terrible, by the way—it’s still a question mark. What I don’t really understand is this: Does Dan DiDio have any fans?

I’m honestly not trying to be glib or dismissive or—what’s the phrase?—a dick here. It’s something I’m curious about, given DiDio’s rather regular dabbling in writing for his company. The direct market that specializes in selling single issues of Big Two super-books like those that DC publishes is largely fan-driven, and fans tend to be fans of creators more than characters or concepts at this point (And no wonder either, given the amount of choices available to them these days).

The byline “Dan DiDio” is one that comes with a lot of baggage. One need not look far to find detractors of the man, who is—rightly or wrongly—assigned a great deal of the blame for whatever people perceive as wrong with DC Comics (And, to be fair, he gets a lot more blame than he gets credit; if you love something the company does, you’ll probably credit the writer involved, whereas if you hate it you’ll blame the editors and management).

Given the negatives associated with DiDio, I imagine that comics bearing his name as anything other than fine print or an editorial credit are going to be books a lot of DC fans want to avoid. So I’m curious if there are readers who have the exact opposite reaction, who see the name “DiDio” under writer and get excited to buy the book. And, if so, do those readers outweigh the ones for whom the name is a reason to not buy the book?

I don’t really have any way of answering that, as most of DiDio’s writing credits came after his ascension up the ranks of DC editorial, and thus the way he’s perceived by readers is inextricably knotted up with his role as the executive editor for the company (and the guy you see or read about at conventions, or answering our 20 questions feature).

He co-wrote a short, doomed run on the 1994-2001 Superboy ongoing right up until its cancellation (which I read and guess liked well enough to not stop reading until it was canceled). He’s penned some contributions to DC’s low-selling holiday specials (I hated the Halloween one, and didn’t read the Christmas one). He wrote the Metal Men strip for the well-regarded weekly anthology Wednesday Comics (Which was decent writing, if outshone by Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez’s art as, let’s be honest, most any writing would—general critical reaction seemed to be that DiDio did a better job scripting than most critics feared he would).

It’s hardly a big enough body of work to really generate a following, and certainly not enough to eclipse whatever sentiments one might have of him in his other role at DC.

So, from where I sit—far, far, far away from DC HQ and any information which would make my guesses anything more than armchair theories—it seems a curious choice to turn to DiDio to script something when most any other writer would  at least bring less negative perceptions to the project (Well, outside of Chuck Austen maybe—people really seem to hate that guy, don’t they?). Even a complete unknown would, at the very least, not have any fans turn up their noses and thinking, “Oh, this is by the guy who personally shot Ted Kord in the head, spit in Kyle Rayner’s face and beat up Wally West…no thank you.

That’s why seeing his name attached to Weird Western Tales #71 was a question mark for me. It’s a book that will naturally sell on the strength of its Blackest Night association, rather than its characters, concept or creators (Aside from a four-issue Vertigo revival, the book was canceled back in 1980, and the biggest “star” character in the issue is Jonah Hex, whose monthly sells at cancellation levels).

In that regard, it doesn’t matter who was writing it, I suppose, and however many issues it ends up moving, it’s going to sell a lot better than anyone would expect an issue of Weird Western Tales to sell in 2010’s direct market. But does “DiDio” cost some amount of sales, more than, say, the presence of Jonah Hex writers “Palmiotti and Gray” might have? (Additionally, their involvement would at least conceivably been able to feed interested parties into Jonah Hex). Or Joe Someguywefoundinthelobby?

I suppose a true test case of DiDio’s popularity and the value of his byline among readers will come when he becomes the regular writer for The Outsiders later this month. In the case of Outsiders, you can see one way in which DiDio’s byline may be valuable—it signals to readers that a character or property or project is perhaps more important than they might otherwise have thought.

Outsiders is perhaps DC’s most troubled title, and has been in a more or less constant state of rebooting since this particular volume was first announced. But if the top of the publisher’s editorial totem pole deems it worthy enough that he wants to roll up his sleeves and get to work on it instead of doing whatever more rewarding task he usually does—light cigars with burning one hundred dollar bills, trying to figure out who your favorite obscure DC superhero is just so he can debase and destroy them in a comic specifically to irritate you personally, etc—then hey, maybe there is something to Geo-Force and the gang after all.

Marvel’s Dan DiDio, Joe Quesada (whom no doubt loves being referred to as “Marvel’s Dan DiDio”) functions somewhat similarly for the company he works for. He’s an artist instead of a writer, of course, and he mainly just draws variant covers these days, but he seems to do so only for major things like big crossovers and deaths and resurrections and the like. A good way to tell if Marvel thinks a particular book is important or not is to see if Quesada drew a variant cover for it or not. The best example though is a few years old—Brand New Day. Quesada drew the whole thing, which served as a pretty strong indication of how strongly he supported that particular controversial project (Other than being editorial head honchos who do some creative work for their companies, DiDio and Quesada aren’t really all that comparable though—Quesada had a long-ish career as an artist before ascending to his current role, and had enough time as “just” an artist to accumulate a fan base).

It will be a few months before we see any sales on the DiDio-written Outsiders, so it will be a while before I can even guess if DC comics readers see that particular byline as a minus or a plus when considering their comic book purchases. Or you could just let me know in the comments section, I suppose (And for God’s sake, be nice—you can not like someone’s writing without being a jerk about it, even on the Internet. It’s true! I’ve seen it done!).

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And hey, while I’m asking DiDio-related questions, if Dan DiDio and Joe Quesada collaborated on a DC/Marvel crossover to benefit a comic book charity, which two characters from their respective publishers would you like to see it feature? I don’t know that such a project would be any good or not,  but man, I’d love to see it exist anyway.

 
26 Responses to “Things I Don’t Understand About DC Comics #436: Dan DiDio, comic book writer”
  1. Vinnie Bartilucci Says:

    Dan got into DC as a writer, and is in a position to dabble in the writer’s pool if he wishes to. He started editing again with Teen Titans, and I wouldn’t say his connection to the book affected sales up or down any more than anyone else’s name on it. The Blackest Night books are pretty much going to be solid sellers no matter who’s writing them, so it’s a safe way to test the waters.

    Outsiders is the last of the books suffering from the rampant revamping DC was guilty of for a long time. It’s one of those titles that everyone remembers liking back in the day, and people want it to do well again. They try adding more of the original team back in, and spinning the idea a bit, but ultimately it comes out feeling like a machine that’s missing a part. So again, he’s taking a chance with a lower-level book, albeit one with a lot of good will. If he were putting himself on Superman you could make an argument that he was letting his ego take charge.

    I don’t think there are that many people who are SO against Dan that they’ll refuse to buy anything with his name on it. If there were, they’d already not be buying any DC titles since his name’s in all of them. Let’s see what happens. He may well have some solid ideas for the team.

  2. David Says:

    I was going to pick up this book cuz I heard The Ray was it – then dropped it back on the shelf like it was covered in snot when I saw his name on it. And I’m not exaggerating. The loathing I have for this guy is palatable. I’ve been a DC-phile since I was 8. After reading for 12 years – not counting the previous 10 that ended in 1987 – I have left regular monthly comics because of his “return to iconic status” mission statement.

    The few bright spots under his watch – Blue Beetle, Secret Six – have been marred by complete f-ups of every major event since Graduation Day and dying-on-the-vine atrophy of once good titles like JLA.

    I completely agree with you that this is nothing but a vanity project that should have gone to another writer.

    One thing I did contemplate when The Outsiders was announced – with the induction of Diane Nelson as the new DCE President and Levitz pushed to the side I was left wondering if this was a first step to him being ousted, uh I mean stepping down, from this position. As EIC’s go, his 6 year reign of terror is getting long in the tooth. Even if people think he is doing a decent – I would laugh at anyone who claims he’s doing a great job – change is always good in a creative medium.

  3. Wesley Smith Says:

    Caleb, what you seem to be asking isn’t whether the addition of Didio’s name will draw readers to a title, but whether he will actively drive them away because other things that have happened to DC under his reign.

    Honestly, he’s taking the same tack that both DC and Marvel did before the modern age of writers as rock stars. He’s putting himself on lower-tier titles where less is expected so he can do the least amount of damage, which exactly how many new writers broke into the industry up until the mid-90s.

    The argument can be raised that Weird Western Tales wouldn’t have seen the light of day and The Outsiders would have been canceled if anyone other than the boss had decided to save them. But it could also be said that he’s just letting the audience become more acclimated to him as a writer before taking on larger projects (if he had decided to take on JLA instead of The Outsiders, I think we all know what the fan reaction would be).

  4. Martin Gray Says:

    I didn’t connect with his Superboy co-writing run, in which Kon-El was a building supervisor, but at least it tried to do something different. The Holiday stuff hasn’t been classic but those things are always hit and miss. The Weird Western I’m reading later today and as for Outsiders, I’ll give it a crack – who knows, it may amaze, in a good way. I did enjoy DiDio’s Metal Men.

  5. Martin Gray Says:

    David wrote: “I completely agree with you that this is nothing but a vanity project that should have gone to another writer.”

    That’s an unfair summation of Caleb’s comments.

  6. Tony Says:

    I’d like to ignore everything else said in the article to answer the question at the end. Honestly, I’m pretty apathetic either way about Didio. However if Didio and Quesada did a charity crossover project together, I’d think a Superman/Spider-Man story would be the natural choice, although the others that spring to mind are Batman/Spider-Man, Batman/Wolverine and Superman/Captain America.

  7. Russ Burlingame Says:

    Honestly? His name on the cover is a detriment to me, but not because of his editorial decisions. I absolutely loathed the Superboy run back when I was young enough to care, and don’t particularly care for either his editorial direction OR his personality–but I don’t like the direction a lot of my favorite characters have taken in recent years and if the story’s good enough to justify it, I’ll still read. DiDio just has never impressed me; the only thing I’ve heard was any good out of his writing career was “Metal Men,” and the price tag scared me off from “Wednesday Comics.” Just too much for a weekly, when you’re living on a lowly reporter’s salary. A book like “The Outsiders” is so hit-or-miss that I might give it a shot, or not, depending on who’s involved. DiDio as writer? Instantly throws it into the “not” pile in the same way that Devin Grayson, Judd Winick or Bruce Jones might. Nothing to do with his personality or his editorial philosophy, and everything to do with his track record as a writer.

  8. Tim O'Neil Says:

    There was a time when, During Tom DeFalco’s reign as EIC of Marvel, he was writing two fairly high-profile monthlies – Thor and Fantastic Four. No one really batted an eye – his Executive Editor, Mark Gruenwald, was also writing two – Captain America and Quasar.

  9. Rebis Says:

    @Vinnie: Hmmm. That title everyone remembers liking back in the day, that people want to do well again, that has suffered from all sorts of constant revamping? I thought that was “Justice League of America.”

  10. Mr. Sparkle Says:

    Really good post, Caleb. You managed to ask and address a really good question without being rude, so I applaud you there. I can’t imagine there are any diehard Didio-as-writer fans out there, he simply hasn’t done anything great, nor has he done an extended run on anything that would be beloved.

  11. Ian Says:

    Whenever Quesada does something it appears to be either to boost sales (profiting from his talent and sizable fan base) or to draw attention to a project.

    It doesn’t really seem like the same thing as the guy in charge giving himself assignments because he feels like it. I find it hard to believe that any objective editor at DC really thinks Dan Didio is the right man for the Outsiders.

  12. Generalzod33 Says:

    Gee, and here I thought useless pot-shots at Didio were going to be discouraged…some people just have NO self-control.

    I bought and read Weird Western Tales on Wednesday night. I found it to be an interesting idea for a story, but so-so in the dialogue and character development. Having Turnbull’s descendant be a main character was an inspired choice, and including Simon Stagg and the Ray show up made for an interesting mix.

    Since I care less about “continuity” than most fanboys, there’s no complaint there, but in the book itself I found that the opening bit of exposition on the first page wasn’t necessary or particularly pleasing to read; and there was one piece of information that was presented twice, once as a caption and once in someone’s speech balloon. If I’m going to read something, don’t make me read it twice, especially if both times the information isn’t particularly relevant.

    There also seems to be some confusion about where this takes place. “The South” does not encompass the entirety of the lower half of the United States. The characters SEEM to talk as if they’re in the DEEP South, where some people are still p.o.’d about the Civil War. However, if you look at the art it looks like the Southwest, like Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona. I would like to say that it was nice to see Renato Arlem’s art again.

    As for Didio as a writer: while I don’t get PARTICULARLY excited seeing his name headlining a book, it doesn’t turn my stomach either. He’s just another writer that needs to prove he has longevity and the ability to improve his writing along with his creativity.

  13. Unit99 Says:

    >Does Dan DiDio have any fans?<

    OUCH!!!

  14. Dominus Says:

    Dan Didio is good at Sales Stunts (These half-witted BN tie-ins, “Final Crisis”, Faces of Evil, and such)

    He’s not a good writer, as proven here in Western Tales, and he SUCKS at his job in DC. He does what he wants as the head strong, arrogant prick he is. He doesn’t care about the fans and cares even less about the great characters he’s “in charge of”.

    He does what he wants and that’s it, and the rest of the Editorial team only bow down and respecfully kiss his… well maybe not, but apparently they do whatever CRAP he has in mind… Didio has meant disaster for DC, and I surely hope he gets (another job elsewhere and get paid better there…) FIRED from DC.

    Fingers Crossed….

  15. Martin Gray Says:

    Nice review, Generalzod, I kneel before it. My own thoughts, not too dissimilar: http://dangermart.blogspot.com/2010/01/blackest-night-weird-western-tales-71.html

  16. jimmy palmiotti Says:

    Dan is an easy target…as is Joe at marvel. Both men are friends and both have a lot of talent on many levels. Even if you agree or disagree, they both got to the positions they are in by understanding how comics work, are created and sold. hit or miss…and I can say this because again, I know them personally, they really care about the characters, the history of the characters and the fans.

    That said, I think Dan has some great story ideas and I think Joe q is one of the best artists out there and a fantastic storyteller with his art. There was a reason when I got the superboy gig years ago I asked dan to co-write it with me…and there was a good reason I worked so long with joe on so many interesting projects.

    I think the safest thing you can do as a consumer is base your like or dislike on the actual work presented to you and not what you are guessing is going on behind the scenes.

    JIMMY PALMIOTTI

  17. Ravager Says:

    hmmm
    a DC/Marvel comic book written by Dan and Drawn by Joe

    im guessing it would be something like
    Countdown to Cry for One more day

    or something like that

  18. Geek Gazette Says:

    While I’m not Didio’s biggest fan, I don’t despise him as much as many other DC fans do. Still seeing his name on a book would not entice me to pick it up. I wouldn’t avoid it like the plague or anything, but I definitely wouldn’t seek it out.

  19. Daryll B Says:

    I have to admit I was hesitant in reading this book because of DiDio’s name on it but I have to say the story was intriguing for what I thought was the the most far reaching of the one-shots tied to Blackest Night at first glance. Sure it got its faults, but the story was OK.

    Yeah that was me, a Titans fan saying that a Didio story was ok after years of ripping the man…hell might have frozen over..lol

  20. Ian House Says:

    DiDio shouldn’t have the bad name he does. Oh he ruined Blue Beetle and Kyle Rayner… things HAVE to change though. These were misses but look at the hits DC have had in recent years, all of these are greenlighted by DiDio. Green Lantern and Geoff Johns involvement in the DCU alone make me pleased with DiDio’s ‘reign of terror’.

    As for a crossover lets go for something a little different… how about Animal Man and Blade?

  21. Heath Says:

    It’s not like he’s taking over the big franchises people. The man needs to get some creative juices flowing every now and then. While I get upset that ALOT of my favs have died during his reign, he is doing things different and you never know! Though his comment that Countdown was 52 done right, really sucked.

    As for the DeFalco, Grunwald comment….Tom and Mark are first rate writers. Tom wrote THE best Spider-Man run in my eyes (along with Stern)and other than Uncle Walt and Amazing Thor! His FF…ehhhh….

    Mark’s Cap was phenomonal up until Galactic Storm ended. Same with Quasar. Then something changed. Squadron Supreme is better tha Watchemen in my eyes

  22. Vinnie Bartilucci Says:

    “Squadron Supreme is better than Watchemen in my eyes”

    http://www.americanreadingglasses.com/

  23. Kevin Huxford Says:

    Vinnie, I was going to post about how your original comment was the first time I’ve ever felt the inclination to tell you “you’re wrong”, but then you come up with that reading glasses link. Brilliant! ;)

  24. Kent Says:

    I liked his metal men, and honestly? I really enjoyed this one shot. It was a bit more straight horror then most of the blackest night titles. And I liked that about it, I liked the use of the Ray, and, well, I loved the twist ending.

  25. dan Says:

    This observation:

    “Even a complete unknown would, at the very least, not have any fans turn up their noses and thinking, “Oh, this is by the guy who personally shot Ted Kord in the head, spit in Kyle Rayner’s face and beat up Wally West…no thank you.””

    Contradicts or at least undermines this one:
    “The direct market that specializes in selling single issues of Big Two super-books like those that DC publishes is largely fan-driven, and fans tend to be fans of creators more than characters or concepts at this point (And no wonder either, given the amount of choices available to them these days).”

    whereas this observation seems to be the most relevant to the post:
    “if you love something the company does, you’ll probably credit the writer involved, whereas if you hate it you’ll blame the editors and management.”

    I think part of the reason for the above is that people inherently don’t really understand what an editor does at companies like these: they’re equal parts editor, talent scout, producer, etc. They have an astonishing number of responsibilities that their detractors refuse to accept. And that’s a shame.

  26. EvolutionAngel Says:

    I actually hesitated when I saw Didio on Western Tales but the draw of BL Jonah Hex & Batlash intrigued me but in the end the story was a let down. When I see Didio as writer, the first thought in my mind is “here’s the big boss playing around” and “he’s gonna think as an editor before he thinks as a writer.” So why would I want to read something that is uninspired but fueled to be a “good ol’ fashion comic.” (ol fashion being Silver Age exposition dreck :/)

    As for Quesada. His art does draw me to a book. I think he is one of the best and distinctive artists I’ve ever seen and the only reason I wish he wasn’t EOC at Marvel was so he could be back to drawing a regular series.

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