Comments on: And lo, there came… GIRL COMICS http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/ The Blog@ Team and prominent comics personalities share what’s on their minds. Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:57:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Black Bloodhound http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-481055 Black Bloodhound Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:05:04 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-481055 I hope that it's not going to be, as the cover suggests, a women..excuse me...GIRL vs men mentality. To me, that would be as silly as a title called "AFRICAN-AMERICAN AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!" or the Justice League of Latinos. Don't segregate, integrate with respect. I hope that it’s not going to be, as the cover suggests, a women..excuse me…GIRL vs men mentality. To me, that would be as silly as a title called “AFRICAN-AMERICAN AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!” or the Justice League of Latinos. Don’t segregate, integrate with respect.

]]> By: Faust http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480993 Faust Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:28:44 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480993 Even though its by women, looks like its still going to be T&A from cover to.... I mean where is the equal opportunity here? Where is all the male P&C&A?!? haha... ;) Even though its by women, looks like its still going to be T&A from cover to….

I mean where is the equal opportunity here? Where is all the male P&C&A?!? haha… ;)

]]> By: Faust http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480992 Faust Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:22:46 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480992 SVU of coarse!! ;) SVU of coarse!! ;)

]]> By: ironchefharpo http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480970 ironchefharpo Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:30:58 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480970 Heh! Three issues. How about that? Heh! Three issues. How about that?

]]> By: Captain Temerity http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480959 Captain Temerity Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:49:40 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480959 I'm buying this strictly because of the incredible line-up of creators on it. There are people I would buy just about anything from (and am currently on other books they do). I don't know if I see this as a step forward, a step back, or more of the same as far as women getting their due in comics. I'll leave that for others to decide for themselves. I'm just excited for a good comic. I’m buying this strictly because of the incredible line-up of creators on it. There are people I would buy just about anything from (and am currently on other books they do).

I don’t know if I see this as a step forward, a step back, or more of the same as far as women getting their due in comics. I’ll leave that for others to decide for themselves.

I’m just excited for a good comic.

]]> By: mercwiththemouth http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480954 mercwiththemouth Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:11:20 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480954 Beautiful cover, just wonderful! I don't know about the whole "girl comics" title. However, the talent involved is without question. Beautiful cover, just wonderful!

I don’t know about the whole “girl comics” title.
However, the talent involved is without question.

]]> By: SBarrett http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480941 SBarrett Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:24:40 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480941 Seriously, Chris? You are working with a pretty small sample group there. I'll argue that 90% of male comic writers are crap. Even the super popular ones write some bad stories. Seriously, Chris? You are working with a pretty small sample group there. I’ll argue that 90% of male comic writers are crap. Even the super popular ones write some bad stories.

]]> By: Chris Bechtloff http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480928 Chris Bechtloff Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:13:01 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480928 Theres a reason why there arent many women writing mainstream super hero comics. Because when they do they usually suck. Yes Ann Nocenti and Gail Simon are great writers, but they are the exception. Most of the time when a woman writes a super hero book you get crap like Arana. Theres a reason why there arent many women writing mainstream super hero comics. Because when they do they usually suck. Yes Ann Nocenti and Gail Simon are great writers, but they are the exception. Most of the time when a woman writes a super hero book you get crap like Arana.

]]> By: nikki http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480911 nikki Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:12:54 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480911 I'm not very worried about 'girl' in 'girl comics'. I call all you guys boys regularly when 85% of you are men. I’m not very worried about ‘girl’ in ‘girl comics’. I call all you guys boys regularly when 85% of you are men.

]]> By: Shaun http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480900 Shaun Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:13:50 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480900 "Everybody likes to call Tony Stark names, but he stood up for Law and Order." Which one is his favorite: The original, SVU, or Criminal Intent? “Everybody likes to call Tony Stark names, but he stood up for Law and Order.”

Which one is his favorite: The original, SVU, or Criminal Intent?

]]> By: Luke http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480898 Luke Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:08:59 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480898 Oh Mah Gosh! Please, PLEASE, tell me that Amanda Conner is going to draw for Marvel! Ima dyin' ovah herr!! Oh Mah Gosh! Please, PLEASE, tell me that Amanda Conner is going to draw for Marvel! Ima dyin’ ovah herr!!

]]> By: alan http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480897 alan Wed, 16 Dec 2009 04:45:36 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480897 "Girl Comics" Is it called "Girl Comics" because the book is aimed at young kids? Hmmm...No... So it must be called that because all of the creators are thirteen years old... No...? Now I'm just confused. She-Hulk beating Tony Stark at arm wrestling is a no-brainer. The idea that Wolverine and Spidey and all the guys pictured on the cover are too stupid to realize that She Hulk could beat Tony at arm wrestling is a sign that they haven't evolved since they were thirteen years old . C'mon, how retarded is this. It's nice of Marvel to "allow" a group of "girls" to write and draw Marvel characters. Now once this miniseries is over everyone can go back to the way things were “Girl Comics”

Is it called “Girl Comics” because the book is aimed at young kids?

Hmmm…No…

So it must be called that because all of the creators are thirteen years old…

No…?

Now I’m just confused.

She-Hulk beating Tony Stark at arm wrestling is a no-brainer. The idea that Wolverine and Spidey and all the guys pictured on the cover are too stupid to realize that She Hulk could beat Tony at arm wrestling is a sign that they haven’t evolved since they were thirteen years old . C’mon, how retarded is this.

It’s nice of Marvel to “allow” a group of “girls” to write and draw Marvel characters. Now once this miniseries is over everyone can go back to the way things were

]]> By: Dave farmer http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480895 Dave farmer Wed, 16 Dec 2009 04:22:02 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480895 I take this cover to probably be meant as "out of continuity"; where no hard feelings, grudges, etc. would factor in to it. It looks like just a comical, girls vs. boys situation meant to appeal to a general audience. I take this cover to probably be meant as “out of continuity”; where no hard feelings, grudges, etc. would factor in to it. It looks like just a comical, girls vs. boys situation meant to appeal to a general audience.

]]> By: Wesley Smith http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480891 Wesley Smith Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:48:51 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480891 It's possible that Quesada et al is considering this a "try-out" book. If a particular character/creative combo is received especially well, they may get a mini or even an ongoing series. It's hard to tell without more details, but it's possible. It’s possible that Quesada et al is considering this a “try-out” book. If a particular character/creative combo is received especially well, they may get a mini or even an ongoing series. It’s hard to tell without more details, but it’s possible.

]]> By: Mike http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480887 Mike Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:20:06 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480887 Regardless of whether Tony Stark was right or wrong in Civil War, he slept with She-Hulk while knowing he had shot her cousin into space and she was so worried about him and hoping to find him. So, I see no big deal about a cover showing She-Hulk beating Iron Man in an arm wrestle. She-Hulk is stronger than Iron Man---of course she would win. I have been a little worried about She-Hulk now that Marvel has introduced two more of them. I only care about the original and next year is her 30th anniversary. I hope this initiative will mean something good for Jennifer Walters the Sensational She-Hulk ! Regardless of whether Tony Stark was right or wrong in Civil War, he slept with She-Hulk while knowing he had shot her cousin into space and she was so worried about him and hoping to find him. So, I see no big deal about a cover showing She-Hulk beating Iron Man in an arm wrestle. She-Hulk is stronger than Iron Man—of course she would win. I have been a little worried about She-Hulk now that Marvel has introduced two more of them. I only care about the original and next year is her 30th anniversary. I hope this initiative will mean something good for Jennifer Walters the Sensational She-Hulk !

]]> By: Tommy http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480882 Tommy Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:05:49 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480882 Why would every guy have necessarily bet on the guy? Spidey, for instance, would have put money on She-Hulk. Why would every guy have necessarily bet on the guy? Spidey, for instance, would have put money on She-Hulk.

]]> By: Dominic http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480872 Dominic Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:53:18 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480872 I'd rather see these women working on more monthly comics please Marvel. As others have pointed out, this reeks of paternalism. Will women buy this comic because it has female creators? Perhaps. But is 'here, we made this comic especially for you but that's all you're getting' the message we want to send female fans? I’d rather see these women working on more monthly comics please Marvel. As others have pointed out, this reeks of paternalism. Will women buy this comic because it has female creators? Perhaps. But is ‘here, we made this comic especially for you but that’s all you’re getting’ the message we want to send female fans?

]]> By: chris http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480869 chris Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:35:17 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480869 I will wait to see the reviews I will wait to see the reviews

]]> By: Ryan http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480868 Ryan Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:34:24 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480868 I wonder if they have enough GIRL POWER to fry me some eggs. I wonder if they have enough GIRL POWER to fry me some eggs.

]]> By: Clem http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480867 Clem Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:26:26 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480867 Ok, who's the wiseguy that let Devin Grayson back into comics. Wasn't destroying Nightwing deserving of a lifetime ban? Ok, who’s the wiseguy that let Devin Grayson back into comics.

Wasn’t destroying Nightwing deserving of a lifetime ban?

]]> By: U_no http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480866 U_no Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:24:39 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480866 @Jimalsi Oh come on! It's just one arm-wrestling match. And I feel she rightfully won. :P @Jimalsi

Oh come on! It’s just one arm-wrestling match. And I feel she rightfully won. :P

]]> By: outside that old box http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480864 outside that old box Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:15:12 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480864 Good start. Better yet, take 8 million dollars (1/500th of the 4 billion they got from the disney deal) and create 400 new graphic novels for girls. (that is $20,000 a pop) Create so many new ideas and new characters that stan lee's output looks like dust in the wind. Give them away to school libraries, post them online, throw them on the iphone. put them in doctor's office's waiting rooms and plaster them all over the new york city subway. call the 4 mil. a total loss. if 2 of those 400 graphic novels turn into movies that are semi-successful, then marvel is bound at lease double their investment. but in all likelihood, this will just end up like DC's minx line. born in '06. dead in '08 sigh. Good start.

Better yet, take 8 million dollars (1/500th of the 4 billion they got from the disney deal) and create 400 new graphic novels for girls.
(that is $20,000 a pop)

Create so many new ideas and new characters that stan lee’s output looks like dust in the wind.
Give them away to school libraries, post them online, throw them on the iphone. put them in doctor’s office’s waiting rooms and plaster them all over the new york city subway. call the 4 mil. a total loss.

if 2 of those 400 graphic novels turn into movies that are semi-successful, then marvel is bound at lease double their investment.

but in all likelihood, this will just end up like DC’s minx line.
born in ’06. dead in ’08

sigh.

]]> By: Preston http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480852 Preston Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:37:43 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480852 Interesting point on the anthology thing, hopefully we keep seeing high quality anthologies being produced since it allows for a project with a multitude of interesting variety. And yeah, the concept is definitely a little on the nose and contrived but the awesome creators attached completely excuse that. Interesting point on the anthology thing, hopefully we keep seeing high quality anthologies being produced since it allows for a project with a multitude of interesting variety.

And yeah, the concept is definitely a little on the nose and contrived but the awesome creators attached completely excuse that.

]]> By: Jimalsi http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480851 Jimalsi Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:36:56 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480851 I was ready to buy this until I saw the cover. Another book featuring females that can only highlight them by trashing men or showing them beating men. No equality, just in-your-face stomping on guys. If that cover was the other way around, you could open your window and hear "Misogony! Misogoney!" echoing in the air. And couldn't the man being beaten at least be a villain? I'm as 30-year Marvelite who's is becoming more and more sick of Marvel, to where I now buy more DC comics (not even counting Blackest Night stuff). Everybody likes to call Tony Stark names, but he stood up for Law and Order. I was ready to buy this until I saw the cover. Another book featuring females that can only highlight them by trashing men or showing them beating men. No equality, just in-your-face stomping on guys. If that cover was the other way around, you could open your window and hear “Misogony! Misogoney!” echoing in the air.

And couldn’t the man being beaten at least be a villain? I’m as 30-year Marvelite who’s is becoming more and more sick of Marvel, to where I now buy more DC comics (not even counting Blackest Night stuff). Everybody likes to call Tony Stark names, but he stood up for Law and Order.

]]> By: Kevin T. Brown http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480850 Kevin T. Brown Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:34:26 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480850 Oh this isn't sexist at all.... Nope. Oh this isn’t sexist at all…. Nope.

]]> By: Russ Burlingame http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480844 Russ Burlingame Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:21:42 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480844 Isn't there something inherently sexist about this? Give these women more regular work on important, serious projects and they won't need a "girl comics anthology." Most of the people (not all) involved in this project are as good as, or better than, the creators involved in a lot of the big Marvel titles right now. Isn’t there something inherently sexist about this? Give these women more regular work on important, serious projects and they won’t need a “girl comics anthology.” Most of the people (not all) involved in this project are as good as, or better than, the creators involved in a lot of the big Marvel titles right now.

]]> By: Johnny Blaze DCU http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480841 Johnny Blaze DCU Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:18:01 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480841 It shows just how much farther the comic culture has to go in terms of sexual equality. Believe me, I'm all for this anthology because the stories sound great. And I'm a HUGE fan of Louise Simonson, Amanda Conner, and Devin Grayson (my heart did kick-flips READING that one). But to make it "special" because it's all-female shows how much we still see the comic arena as a giant men's club. Hence you'll never see a mini-series announcing with pride: written, drawn, inked, colored, lettered, and edited by men! And may I ask why they're calling it Girl Comics instead of Women Comics? Sigh... It shows just how much farther the comic culture has to go in terms of sexual equality. Believe me, I’m all for this anthology because the stories sound great. And I’m a HUGE fan of Louise Simonson, Amanda Conner, and Devin Grayson (my heart did kick-flips READING that one). But to make it “special” because it’s all-female shows how much we still see the comic arena as a giant men’s club. Hence you’ll never see a mini-series announcing with pride: written, drawn, inked, colored, lettered, and edited by men!

And may I ask why they’re calling it Girl Comics instead of Women Comics? Sigh…

]]> By: jrsavitski http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480836 jrsavitski Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:06:51 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480836 Looks fun; will def. be picking this up! Amanda's cover is wonderful, which is a great first impression! Looks fun; will def. be picking this up! Amanda’s cover is wonderful, which is a great first impression!

]]> By: Lex http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480835 Lex Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:03:17 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480835 It's only three issues? It’s only three issues?

]]> By: nikki http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/12/15/and-lo-there-came-girl-comics/comment-page-1/#comment-480834 nikki Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:00:25 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=13319#comment-480834 I've noticed that Marvel makes 'grand' gestures towards women that always fall flat. Their women of marvel comic trades had blurbs that read like it didn't want men to read! While this is a nice idea, I'd prefer if these creators were more visible in the industry day to day like Morrison, Rucka, Robinson, Johns, Millar, Brubaker etc... Only Conner and Simone have that. Doing this and then having them fade back for another few years is no help. I’ve noticed that Marvel makes ‘grand’ gestures towards women that always fall flat. Their women of marvel comic trades had blurbs that read like it didn’t want men to read! While this is a nice idea, I’d prefer if these creators were more visible in the industry day to day like Morrison, Rucka, Robinson, Johns, Millar, Brubaker etc… Only Conner and Simone have that. Doing this and then having them fade back for another few years is no help.

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