Considering yesterday’s post on the Onion AV Club’s top 25 comics of the decade was a fairly important deal, I also wanted to direct your attention to another list that may have been overlooked: Christopher Bird, aka MightyGodKing, discussing 25 gateway comics for people.
At this point I have honestly lost count of the number of comics lists that suggest that someone brand new to comics start with, say, Jack Kirby’s New Gods. Or Walt Simonson’s Thor. Or the Fantagraphics Complete Peanuts. Or, god forbid, Herbie the Fat fucking Fury, a comic hardcover that will set back a prospective reader sixty bucks Canadian for a measly 224 pages of kitsch that relies desperately on people saying how awesome it is.
Or they’ll recommend something safe, like “you should read Sandman.” Or Watchmen, or Transmetropolitan, or [insert critically acclaimed comic by the Usual Suspects here]. Now, sure. These are great comics. But I’m not going to say “this is how you should get started with comics.” Watchmen should be nobody’s first comics read. Sandman has an impenetrable first volume. And Transmet is a commitment – not that Spider Jerusalem isn’t worth the ride, but I’m not going to introduce somebody to comics with it.
Bird goes on to list books like All-Star Superman, Bone, Criminal, Maus, Scott Pilgrim — it’s definitely worth a read (and i totally agree with him about not suggesting Thor or New Gods or Watchmen to someone fresh onto the scene). But I also wanted to add my personal list, as a regular comic book evangelist (not to be confused with a comic book Evangelion). Does it break Bird’s third rule of contemporary superhero fare? Yeah. Is it the best of the best of the medium? It’s good, but I wouldn’t go that far. And obviously the list isn’t meant for everyone — just those with an open enough mind to take a look at a medium we all care about. My rules of thumb: more character, less depressing, and comedy can’t hurt. (Obviously, more serious-minded people should read Scalped or Criminal, but that’s not what I open with. And I’m not putting Scott Pilgrim on the list, only because that one should be obvious.) Is this list the definitive list of things You Must Read? Heck, no — it’s just the books I give to people who are interested in reading ‘em. Obviously, your mileage may vary.
Amazing Spider-Man, by J. Michael Straczynski and John Romita, Jr.: The first arc is a decent introduction to the character, with lots of action and wit. But it’s the second arc — kicking off with the black covered 9/11 issue — that blows people away. One of the prime misconceptions of comics is that they’re kids fare, that there’s no depth: Straczysnki’s 9/11 story takes a national tragedy — one that most of the country was still reeling from — and gave a response. The rest of the book, up through issue #500, is great, as well: even if you don’t buy the Spider-Totem subplot, it doesn’t matter. J. Michael Straczynski, to borrow from an earlier Marvel campaign, puts the character into comics. Read it.
Astonishing X-Men, by Joss Whedon and John Cassaday. While the series (by the author’s own admission) occasionally veers off the rails in terms of subject matter, Joss Whedon knows how to make characterization work. Kitty Pryde and Colossus have a great arc, and Scott Summers in particular makes a fantastic movement from up-tight leader-man to the put-together general we now know and love. It’s also cut with a nice degree of humor to it, which makes anything more palatable. For more serious-minded readers, Morrison’s New X-Men isn’t a bad run either.
Batman: Gotham Knights, by Devin Grayson and Roger Robinson. It’s too bad this book hasn’t been collected in trade, because there isn’t a better look at Batman or his family than this. Fantastic moody artwork by Robinson, and the relationships between Batman and Nightwing, Batman and the Spoiler, Nightwing and Robin, all tying in with Bruce’s deep-seated issues, made this book an exercise in superiority for years. It eventually ties in with the Bruce Wayne: Fugitive crossover, which will likely confuse, but the much of the preceding work is just spot-on.
Batman: The Long Halloween, by Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale. But what if your target isn’t into the touchy-feely Batman? That’s okay — while it occasionally riffs heavily on things like the Godfather, The Long Halloween is a great introduction to Batman and his world. It’s rare to have One True Voice for the Bat, but Jeph Loeb pulls it off, giving us a great view of how he operates, and who he operates against. Tim Sale’s scratchy lines may put off a few people who are brand-new to the medium, but if they’re open-minded (or have read even one comic, just to get a sense that it doesn’t have to be a cartoon or photorealistic), this series will hook most mystery fans.
The Incredible Hercules: Love and War, by Greg Pak, Fred Van Lente, Clayton Henry, and Salva Espin. The gateway drug for that most awesome of Greeks. Clayton Henry was born to draw Herc in this incarnation, as his expressions add so much to Pak and Van Lente’s antics. There’s a lot of dumb action, but there’s also a lot of humor and (surprisingly) romance to it all. The final chapter — complete with alternate reality and new art team — takes a little bit of a weird turn, the first few chapters make it a worthwhile read. It’s also a great way to transition someone to another great run, Sacred Invasion.
Invincible, by Robert Kirkman, Cory Walker, and Ryan Ottley. The everyman factor strikes again — Robert Kirkman manages to go hog-wild with Invincible, as the first few volumes especially deal with the problems of superheroics, and plain old growing up. Walker transitions to Ottley smoothly in terms of the art, and the twist of the Viltrumites will keep people in it for the long haul. Additionally, while much of the world Kirkman creates is homaging something else, for new readers, they won’t know the difference — it’s like feeding them their vitamins, so they aren’t confused if they see it elsewhere. But the main hook of this book is character — Mark Grayson is one sympathetic character, but not necessarily a sad-sack like Peter Parker, and his family is a hoot. Worth it, especially if you’re looking past the Big Two.
Iron Man: Extremis, by Warren Ellis and Adi Granov. With Tony Stark hitting the cineplexes next year, there are a lot of people who want to know what he’s all about. I would direct them to Warren Ellis’s Extremis first — not only does Ellis really “get” Tony’s scientific streak, but Adi Granov will blow a new comics reader out of the water for his unique style. That said, if you feel the revised origin story might be a little redundant because of the movie, Matt Fraction and Salvador Larocca are tearing it up in Invincible Iron Man. Definitely a toss-up, but one you really can’t lose.
Scott Pilgrim, by Bryan Lee O’Malley. UPDATE: I wrote at the beginning of this list that this book was an obvious pick for the list, and didn’t need me to explain why — but just to prevent people from missing that disclaimer, here goes. Music? Check. Romance? Check. Post Gen-X Ennui mixed with a healthy helping of Kicking Ass? Double check. Some people might underestimate this book because of its cartoony style: those people are idiots. This book out-indies the best of ‘em, and is going to get some added exposure by the upcoming film with Michael Cera.
Superman: Birthright, by Mark Waid and Leinil Francis Yu. Not knocking Geoff Johns’ Secret Origin, but it’s a shame that this book hasn’t gotten more critical acclaim. If you have a friend who even knows what the show Smallville is, then this is a great way to introduce Superman as a character to them. While the ending is a little flat, the thing about these books is that all you need is a strong intro to prove what this medium can do — and Mark Waid does that in spades. Showing the globe-trotting Clark Kent is a side we haven’t seen of him before, and it gives a worldlier perspective to the Big Blue Boy Scout.
Y: The Last Man, by Brian K. Vaughan and Pia Guerra. This is likely as much of a “commitment” as Bird describes Transmetropolitan, but it’s worth it. This totally flies in the face of male-centric superhero convention — this is a book someone who wouldn’t be caught dead reading a capes-and-tights book might budge a little over. Some strong characterization and the fact that the creative team sticks around for 60 issues is what helps — by the time this series is over, it’s as if you’ve lost a friend. Highly recommended for fans of long-form storytelling, whether it’s the West Wing or How I Met Your Mother.
Zot!, by Scott McCloud. UPDATE: Oversight alert! I can’t believe I forgot to put Zot! down as a gateway comic. Sure, it plays with a lot of sci-fi/superheroic tropes, but the social issues that the book eventually gets into are some really powerful stuff. “Look what they’ve done to you” — life is painful, and McCloud is great at showing people struggle and transcend their problems… and include sci-fi robots, jetpacks, and monkeys. I would strongly suggest picking up the black-and-white collection, which picks up the later (and greater) issues of McCloud’s run.
What say you, Rama readers? Any books I’ve missed? Sound off!
November 25th, 2009 at 11:52 am
“Straczysnki’s 9/11 story takes a national tragedy — one that most of the country was still reeling from — and gave a response.”
A mawkish, hamfisted response that is even more embarrassing today than it was at the time.
November 25th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
I would rather give people the John Byrne Superman origin, and follow it with the collections of that era’s first two or three years. It holds up well for the most part, and unlike the Birthright, it’s not a dead end for new readers.
I would add that I think newbies might appreciate a lot of Astro City since it’s mainly stand-alone work, though some of the references will be lost on them. But it’s a wonderful comic that doesn’t make you read anything else to know who these heroes are.
And I love that someone remember Devin Grayson’s run on Batman. Or Devin, for that matter.
November 25th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
My gal and I gave our 10-13 year old nieces Fruits Basket & Runaways. Now they’re hooked. We gave our 12 year old nephew Bone and the first couple of Dungeon books and now he’s a little comics fiend, too.
November 25th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
I think giving “new” readers and “essential” list is not the ideal way to go…
Rather, getting some one into comics (whether they want to or not) always depends on the reader.
case in point, my husband “hated” my weekly habit, that is until I started buying Buffy Season 8 and the omnibuses. he an avid buffy fan took to the comic immediately.
I was then able to lead him down the path of no return… anxiously reading FC, BN, WW, SS, Inc Herc.
November 25th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
“A mawkish, hamfisted response that is even more embarrassing today than it was at the time.”
I’m afraid I have to agree. Speaking of the AV CLub/Onion, it sort of reminds me of this… Something well meaning, but ultimately meaningless :
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28148
At any rate, it’s not at all something I’d used to introduce a newbie. Or any of JMS’ Spidey run, actually. J.M. DeMatteis remains my favorite Spidey writer.
Likewise, Birthright? Ugh. Terrible. I don’t know if the Byrne “Man of Steel” reboot stuff is in print, but that’s still the best intro to Superman. Superman For All Seasons is another.
The Batman choices on this list are good, but if we go with the assumption that most people (most people interested in trying out comics at least) know Batman from the two Nolan movies, then there’s no better place to start than Year One. Dark Knight Returns makes a great bookend to that story, and there’s the usual old chestnuts, like The Killing Joke for instance. Plenty of good, older Batman choices out there really.
Really, I don’t see the problem with starting someone with Watchmen either, depending on the who the reader is. V For Vendetta as well.
Astonishing X-Men? I liked it, but I still find parts of that story really confusing so I’d have to guess newbies will too. But it’s still one of the more accessible X-Men sagas out there. Likewise, I’d certainly recommend God Loves, Man Kills as top-notch X-Men.
I already mentioned Superman For All Seasons, and David mentioned Long Halloween, but there are great older Loeb books too. I know it’s hard to believe, or remember a time when he wrote good books, but it’s true. Spider-Man Blue, Daredevil Yellow, Hulk Gray, Challengers of the Unknown Must Die! Good stuff all.
I recommend ANY Brian Vaughan, and Y is as good a choice as any, but I’d also recommend Ex Machina (another “commitment” title) and Pride of Baghdad as well.
November 25th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
And obviously the list isn’t meant for everyone — just those with an open enough mind to take a look at a medium we all care about.
I think you mean a genre, not a medium. If, say, I wanted to get one of my former literature professors to read a comic, this list wouldn’t be a good representation of the medium for me. And that the list doesn’t reflect their (or my) tastes does not reflect on how “open” their minds are.
I find these lists run more toward “my favorite comics” than actual good comics to get people interested in the medium. Because if your goal is really the latter, there is no definitive list. It depends on to whom you’re recommending the comics.
November 25th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
No Bat-books by Devin Grayson should be recommended to a new reader. Ever.
I’d replace the Waid Flash Trade with a Johns trade. One not heavy on Silver Age continuity though.
Superman: Birthright is soon to be rendered invalid. Still, a good read I suppose.
My fiance loved the Barry Ween books & the oversized DC Heroes stuff by Dini & Ross.
Personally, I enjoy handing Warren Ellis & Juan Jose Ryp’s fantastic “Black Summer” out to people . . . =)
–J.
November 25th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
@Jennifer
A couple of points about your statement. I don’t think that “Y” is of the same genre as the others, unless you classify it all as “adventure”.
In terms of recommending your own favorites to a friend, I don’t think that it’s necessarily a terrible way to go. I’d rather have someone introduce me to a story, CD, etc. that they were passionate about rather than say, “You should read this; some list says it’s good.” And that’s not an attack on lists; the writers behind them are themselves obviously trying to push things that they themselves were passionate about.
I’m not sure where the literature professor example comes in, unless it’s your opinion that a literature professor wouldn’t enjoy anything that David mentioned. Maybe that’s not how you intended it and not as a soft backhand, either, but it seemed a bit like that; being a college professor myself, I know several colleagues, lit profs and otherwise, that enjoy many comics, including those of the super-heroic variety.
This all just makes me curious, though; Jennifer, what’s your short list for a new reader?
November 25th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
I agree with jrp001. Trying to force super-heroes on someone is futile. Recommending comic books should be like recommending any other kind of book. If someone’s into adventure stories, they may like super-heroes. But if they’re into westerns, they’d like Jonah Hex; and if they like sprawling dramas, Strangers in Paradise; if they’re into crime fiction, 100 Bullets or Criminal, etc., etc.
Find out what they like, and then give them something that is in that genre or style. If they get into super-heroes, great. If not, then maybe they’ll check out other comic books and eventually find a super-hero comic they enjoy.
November 25th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Fables tends to be a long standing favorite recommendation for me when I’m trying to get a non-comic reader into comics. Everyone has a frame of reference for Snow White, Big Bad Wolf, and other fairy tales so it’s an easy series to jump into.
I tend to stay away from recommending superhero fare because most non-comic readers aren’t interested in capes. From the Top Cow library, my #1 pick with a bullet is “Midnight Nation”.
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Filip Sablik
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November 25th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
I think there are vaild points being made by everyone here, this is a very interesting topic and discussion. But what I agree with most is the first point being made about some of the stuff that is typically recommended to new readers. I don’t think you can really appreciate WATCHMEN unless you’ve read enough traditional super-hero comics to get just how and why it’s so groundbreaking. And while SANDMAN and TRANSMETROPOLITAN are great works in their own right, I think they feel a little too much like the 1990′s with their individual goth and techno vibes, and we aren’t quite at a time when 90′s nostalgia is in full swing. Maybe in another five years.
I like the idea of FABLES as a gateway. I have been trying to get my wife into comics off and on for a couple of years now, but haven’t shown her any books in awhile and I’m thinking FABLES might be the way to go.
November 26th, 2009 at 12:13 am
OK I’ll be the first to say it…no way am I giving someone new to comics who is interested in Spidey JMS and Romita over Bendis and Bagley. That is the quintessential building blocks walk through for a newbie…
As far as DC goes I would give them the first Young Justice paperback…fun, quirky with ties to all the “bigger” books…
Bone is great and so is SiP…Invincible might be a lil violent but for an older person I don’t see the harm…..
And for adult women you can’t go wrong with Y, Preacher and Sandman…but I would also throw Promethea to that mix too…
November 26th, 2009 at 12:30 am
Comics that have worked for me (to convert people) have been Scott Pilgrim, Maus and Bone. However books like We3, Pride of Baghdad and other medium sized mini-series/trades are great too.
Strangers in Paradise and any Peter Bagge stuff is great too.
November 26th, 2009 at 12:52 am
The collections/trade paperbacks I would/do recommend are:
All-Star Superman
Justice League: A new beginning
John Byrne’s Man of Steel mini-series
Identity Crisis
Spiderman: Kraven’s Last Hunt(Fearful Symmetry)
Invincible
Y: The Last Man
Buffy Season 8
Hellblazer: Dangerous Habits
Batman year one
I’ve actually used JB’s Man of Steel, Buffy, Spiderman, Hellblazer and Batman year one to get people interested in comics and so they worked pretty well for me. The thing is to find stuff that the person is already interested in.
A friend was interested in Buffy the TV show, so the comics was a good choice. Since then she now reads Buffy as well as the Dark Towers and Anita Blake comics. Another friend really enjoys superhero movies, so the Batman, Superman and Spiderman books worked really well for him. My exwife really liked supernatural crime/horror and absolutely loved Dangerous Habits.
Then again a guy I gamed with was a Dragonlance fan so when I let him borrow my Dragonlance trades, he hated them, but enjoyed the Walking Dead and Green Lantern.
Like I said it depends on the individual. I’ve been reading comics for 32 years and I don’t even like some of the books listed in the article or comments. I’ve read Bone, Jack Kirby’s New Gods and many of the others listed in the article and comments and I my response to these range from “it was ok”(Bone) to “I can’t stand it”(New Gods). A guy I grew up with hates Kingdom Come and Watchmen(two of my all time favorites), but enjoys G.I. Joe comics and the New Gods(I can’t stand either of them).
As Jennifer dG put it in an earlier post “…there is no definitive list. It depends on to whom you’re recommending the comics.” I also agree that how passionate you are about a certain book will influence what others think of it to some degree, much like music and movies. Considering that, for the most part,I don’t like the New Gods I would not be the person to recommend anything with them in it, as I try to avoid those very items.
Of course I always enjoy discussions like this because it is nice to see how similar or different my recommendations/favorites are compared to other fans.
November 26th, 2009 at 1:54 am
Funny, I have something similar posted on my “blog”…
http://superherosplash.blogspot.com/
November 26th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
1. The Killing Joke
2. Justice League #1-#7 (1987)
3. Spider-Man (Any early issues or collection of same.)
4. The Dark Knight Returns
5. Batman: Year One
6. Preacher (Entire series.)
These comics all contain solid artwork, and more importantly, the best writing in all of comics history. Ground breaking work that compels you to seek out more of the same. Most of these represent mainstream comics. The exception is Preacher, for those who swim upstream and automatically despise anything “popular”.
November 26th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
CapCanuck… love the handle. I just ordered the tpb.
November 26th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Truth be told. as a male in college trying to score but not look like a nerd or comic geek, trying to introduce comics to the other genre or other people requires a tip toeing line. Personally, this is the list that i would recommend because, not only does it work, but you have to at least show that you’re not a stereotypical basement dwelling cretin and, well, you have some sorta outworldly look. For these reasons alone, I NEVER recommend Sandman or Transmetropolitan or any series. You guys are correct, those are investments. You have to toe the line between interesting and yet, what it says about you. This is my list.
Identity Crisis – on every level possible, it forces the idea that capes are beyond just superheroes fighting super villians. its about people. And their lives. This is why the women that i have lent this book to have always come back crying, calling me a a**hole but wanted more. It’s a hard hitting emotional book for anyone that has never read a comic book. And the thing is that for such a large cast, if the reader is interested in any character, you can easily reccommend another trade featuring either 1 or 5 of the characters they like.
Pride of Baghdad – a short read, neutral without making you look like you’re 5. Also, Iraq War is still fresh on everyone’s mind.
Uncle Sam – An Alex Ross piece. While it is not the story but the art that propels this. By focusing on event’s throughout American history with Ross’s art, it’s a truely awesome kickass short read for someone trying to get a foothold in a comic.
Batman: Hush: For the males out there. A all out 40 man cast featuring Batman kicking ass and taking names with Jim Lee’s art. The absolute volume is an amazing gift. And it’s batman, introducing a large cast, allowing anyone to like a certain character and read more about a different character.
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