Comments on: Science and Supremacy http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/10/27/science-and-supremacy/ The Blog@ Team and prominent comics personalities share what’s on their minds. Fri, 24 May 2013 11:45:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Metal Machine http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/10/27/science-and-supremacy/comment-page-1/#comment-478291 Metal Machine Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:36:00 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=12967#comment-478291 Im an Avenger fan going back 25 years...but I don't know about Hank over Reed. I think Hank is in the top 5, but... Also, power minds left off the list.... 1) Hank McCoy 2) Doc Octopus 3) The Leader 4) High Evolutionairy Im an Avenger fan going back 25 years…but I don’t know about Hank over Reed. I think Hank is in the top 5, but… Also, power minds left off the list….

1) Hank McCoy
2) Doc Octopus
3) The Leader
4) High Evolutionairy

]]> By: Kimberly http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/10/27/science-and-supremacy/comment-page-1/#comment-477272 Kimberly Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:10:04 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=12967#comment-477272 Who's to say Pym didn't get something out of this new title. How did he know about China? We have yet to see what comes along with it. I'm ecstatic to see my favorite character finally getting some credit. Who’s to say Pym didn’t get something out of this new title. How did he know about China? We have yet to see what comes along with it. I’m ecstatic to see my favorite character finally getting some credit.

]]> By: A. Dave Lewis http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/10/27/science-and-supremacy/comment-page-1/#comment-477243 A. Dave Lewis Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:39:16 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=12967#comment-477243 Well, I think one thing should be kept in mind; Slott et al built in a fairly large "escape pod" to this plot development. That is, I like Pym in this role, but if it doesn't catch on, it's easy enough to say that this was Pym's perception of the universe appointing him Scientist Supreme. That is, Eternity was kicking his ass on the previous page because, said Eternity, that's how Pym views the universe's relationship to him; it's not a big jump for him to shift from insecure to egotistical and self-appoint. Personally, I hope it sticks -- but the bail-out button is clearly there in the writing if it needs to be pressed. Well, I think one thing should be kept in mind; Slott et al built in a fairly large “escape pod” to this plot development. That is, I like Pym in this role, but if it doesn’t catch on, it’s easy enough to say that this was Pym’s perception of the universe appointing him Scientist Supreme. That is, Eternity was kicking his ass on the previous page because, said Eternity, that’s how Pym views the universe’s relationship to him; it’s not a big jump for him to shift from insecure to egotistical and self-appoint.

Personally, I hope it sticks — but the bail-out button is clearly there in the writing if it needs to be pressed.

]]> By: D. Peace http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/10/27/science-and-supremacy/comment-page-1/#comment-477219 D. Peace Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:33:29 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=12967#comment-477219 Reed and Tony are both smarter but their roles in the Marvel Universe are already confirmed and well-established. I think Slott and the editors are trying to re-position Pym by giving him a role more innate to his personality than just "leader of the Avengers". Reed and Tony are both smarter but their roles in the Marvel Universe are already confirmed and well-established. I think Slott and the editors are trying to re-position Pym by giving him a role more innate to his personality than just “leader of the Avengers”.

]]> By: Sigma http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/10/27/science-and-supremacy/comment-page-1/#comment-477210 Sigma Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:39:37 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=12967#comment-477210 I would say Kang is in the running as well, but he is currently trying to save all of time over in Guardians of the Galaxy. And everyone knows that Eternity is the embodiment of space and Infinity is the embodiment of time. I would say Kang is in the running as well, but he is currently trying to save all of time over in Guardians of the Galaxy. And everyone knows that Eternity is the embodiment of space and Infinity is the embodiment of time.

]]> By: rwe1138 http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/10/27/science-and-supremacy/comment-page-1/#comment-477176 rwe1138 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:11:14 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=12967#comment-477176 r- Jericho "Brother/Doctor Voodoo" Drumm is an accredied psychologist, with the Ph.D. to prove it. r-

Jericho “Brother/Doctor Voodoo” Drumm is an accredied psychologist, with the Ph.D. to prove it.

]]> By: Preston http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/10/27/science-and-supremacy/comment-page-1/#comment-477170 Preston Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:14:34 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=12967#comment-477170 No one would ever argue that Reed and Tony aren't smarter or better scientists and I loved that Slott made that very clear and articulated why Pym would get the position over them. But to play Devil's Advocate, what if the real reason why Pym got it was because it actually isn't a real position but a made-up one meant to boost Hank's ego and prepare him for all the challenges to come. For one thing I don't see any power upgrades like one would get as the Sorcerer Supreme (not that Hank really needs any). Either way, it will be very interesting to see how this plays out. No one would ever argue that Reed and Tony aren’t smarter or better scientists and I loved that Slott made that very clear and articulated why Pym would get the position over them.

But to play Devil’s Advocate, what if the real reason why Pym got it was because it actually isn’t a real position but a made-up one meant to boost Hank’s ego and prepare him for all the challenges to come. For one thing I don’t see any power upgrades like one would get as the Sorcerer Supreme (not that Hank really needs any). Either way, it will be very interesting to see how this plays out.

]]> By: r http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/10/27/science-and-supremacy/comment-page-1/#comment-477165 r Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:42:18 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=12967#comment-477165 I hope this isn't too far off topic, but with the new Sorceror Supreme, what makes Brother Voodoo a doctor? With Dr. Strange, the doctor part of his name came from the fact that he was an actual medical doctor, right? I'm not really familiar with the character of Brother Voodoo- was he a doctor previously? Or is the title now a part of the position of Sorceror Supreme? I hope this isn’t too far off topic, but with the new Sorceror Supreme, what makes Brother Voodoo a doctor? With Dr. Strange, the doctor part of his name came from the fact that he was an actual medical doctor, right? I’m not really familiar with the character of Brother Voodoo- was he a doctor previously? Or is the title now a part of the position of Sorceror Supreme?

]]> By: Tony http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/10/27/science-and-supremacy/comment-page-1/#comment-477161 Tony Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:38:37 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=12967#comment-477161 These all make absolute sense to me. Reed has always been seeking the newest frontier, and Tony has always been searching for the new "big thing." Thinking about it, the only two scientists in the Marvel staple that are in it for the pure science are Pym and Banner, and Banner is so concerned with the Hulk that Pym has moved past him in leaps and bounds. Good move by Slott. These all make absolute sense to me. Reed has always been seeking the newest frontier, and Tony has always been searching for the new “big thing.” Thinking about it, the only two scientists in the Marvel staple that are in it for the pure science are Pym and Banner, and Banner is so concerned with the Hulk that Pym has moved past him in leaps and bounds.

Good move by Slott.

]]> By: justme http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/10/27/science-and-supremacy/comment-page-1/#comment-477160 justme Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:31:02 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=12967#comment-477160 The whole thing is one major head trip...the universe was kicking his ass because he wanted it to happen...then stopped because he wanted it to happen...then told him he was the best because he wanted it to happen. Nothing happened that he didn't will to take place. The whole thing is one major head trip…the universe was kicking his ass because he wanted it to happen…then stopped because he wanted it to happen…then told him he was the best because he wanted it to happen. Nothing happened that he didn’t will to take place.

]]> By: Wesley Smith http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/10/27/science-and-supremacy/comment-page-1/#comment-477159 Wesley Smith Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:28:51 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=12967#comment-477159 I'm fine with Hank Pym getting this title over Richards for two reasons. 1) Richards (as a character) doesn't need it nearly as much as Pym does. This is something that could really advance Pym in a good way, a way that Richards doesn't need because he's been established as the preeminent mind in the Marvel Universe. 2) Despite everything he's done to forward science, Richards has still never been able to full heal his best friend. I’m fine with Hank Pym getting this title over Richards for two reasons.

1) Richards (as a character) doesn’t need it nearly as much as Pym does. This is something that could really advance Pym in a good way, a way that Richards doesn’t need because he’s been established as the preeminent mind in the Marvel Universe.

2) Despite everything he’s done to forward science, Richards has still never been able to full heal his best friend.

]]> By: RMC http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/10/27/science-and-supremacy/comment-page-1/#comment-477158 RMC Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:21:44 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=12967#comment-477158 I think this is cool even though the old Science vs Magic trope is a bit played out to my mind. Makes me think of that sequence in NextWave where we get a breakdown of how utterly irresponsible Pym has been over the years. But he's dedicated, I'll give him that. Thumbs up to this. Best development of an in-continuity institution since Sinestro Corps. I think this is cool even though the old Science vs Magic trope is a bit played out to my mind.
Makes me think of that sequence in NextWave where we get a breakdown of how utterly irresponsible Pym has been over the years. But he’s dedicated, I’ll give him that. Thumbs up to this. Best development of an in-continuity institution since Sinestro Corps.

]]> By: Mechagamera http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/10/27/science-and-supremacy/comment-page-1/#comment-477156 Mechagamera Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:19:19 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=12967#comment-477156 What kind of things does he get for being Scientist Supreme? Drs. Strange and Vodoo have the Eye of Agamato and the Cloak of Levitation and stuff like that. Does he at least get the Test Tube of Truth? What kind of things does he get for being Scientist Supreme? Drs. Strange and Vodoo have the Eye of Agamato and the Cloak of Levitation and stuff like that. Does he at least get the Test Tube of Truth?

]]> By: Lan Pitts http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/10/27/science-and-supremacy/comment-page-1/#comment-477153 Lan Pitts Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:14:13 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=12967#comment-477153 Reed. Hands down. Reed. Hands down.

]]> By: Vinnie Bartilucci http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/10/27/science-and-supremacy/comment-page-1/#comment-477152 Vinnie Bartilucci Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:59:42 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=12967#comment-477152 I absolutely adored this little plot twist for one very important reason. There's nothing to prove it actually happened. As much as I would love to see Hank Pym get credit as being one of the MU's preeminent scientists, I also like the way Dan has been playing him as just a half-bubble off of center. From taking his dead ex-wife's powers and name, to establishing a slightly more than platonic relationship with the gynoid containing a nicely domesticated copy of his dead ex-wife's memories (the lucky dog), he's getting more done than he ever has before...but he might just be riding a manic wave. There's nothing to say that the whole scene with Eternity wasn't a massive hallucination. He COULD be incubating the single biggest case of Messiah complex in human history, and the only reason it's not a bad thing is he happens to be working on the side of good. This is the best use of Hank Pym in years, possibly decades. I am really friggin' pleased. I absolutely adored this little plot twist for one very important reason.

There’s nothing to prove it actually happened.

As much as I would love to see Hank Pym get credit as being one of the MU’s preeminent scientists, I also like the way Dan has been playing him as just a half-bubble off of center. From taking his dead ex-wife’s powers and name, to establishing a slightly more than platonic relationship with the gynoid containing a nicely domesticated copy of his dead ex-wife’s memories (the lucky dog), he’s getting more done than he ever has before…but he might just be riding a manic wave.

There’s nothing to say that the whole scene with Eternity wasn’t a massive hallucination. He COULD be incubating the single biggest case of Messiah complex in human history, and the only reason it’s not a bad thing is he happens to be working on the side of good.

This is the best use of Hank Pym in years, possibly decades. I am really friggin’ pleased.

]]> By: Simon DelMonte http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/10/27/science-and-supremacy/comment-page-1/#comment-477151 Simon DelMonte Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:54:18 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=12967#comment-477151 It's Reed. His field of expertise is everything. Hank Pym is far from a dope, but he seems to lag behind on biology. And he never built a time machine. And who discovered the Negative Zone? A case for Tony Stark could be made since his areas of expertise also outstrip those of Dr. Pym. And an Avengers annual in the 80s implied that Bruce Banner was able to invent more things in a brief window of Hulk-control than Reed and Hank did in years. It’s Reed. His field of expertise is everything. Hank Pym is far from a dope, but he seems to lag behind on biology. And he never built a time machine. And who discovered the Negative Zone?

A case for Tony Stark could be made since his areas of expertise also outstrip those of Dr. Pym. And an Avengers annual in the 80s implied that Bruce Banner was able to invent more things in a brief window of Hulk-control than Reed and Hank did in years.

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