By Filip Sablik, Publisher of Top Cow Productions, Inc.
It’s been so long since I’ve written one of these blog entries it’s embarrassing. Really, really embarrassing. My apologies to my readers. Mom, I know you’ve been waiting to see what I’d write next. So, let’s move on to that, shall we?
Preconceptions. We all have them; even those of us who claim to be open minded can’t help but have biases. Like how all guys over 6’4” should be able to dunk a basketball or how old people are bad drivers or how Glee kids are dorks.
There are a couple of preconceptions that I’ve been fighting since arriving here at Top Cow three years ago. The problem with preconceptions is that once you get saddled with one, they’re a real pain to get rid of. Kind of like a bad rash.
My hope is not to convince all of you reading this that the preconception is not true, but to put up my point of view on the topic, so in moving forward, when this allegation comes up again I can just paste a handy dandy hyperlink to this post. I mean, I figure it’s the internet, if we can’t have a civil discourse here – what’s the point, right?
The preconception at hand is that Top Cow only publishes “T and A” comics. I’m going to assume I don’t need to define “T and A” for you, gentle reader. If you need to, go ahead and do a quick internet search to bring yourself up to speed.
I’m going to lay my proverbial cards on the table and set up a few ground rules for this conversation. I, personally, as well as the crew at Top Cow, do not think there’s anything wrong with utilizing some sex appeal to sell entertainment. Movies do it, television does it, magazines do it, novels do it, and so on. It works on both sexes and it can help sell copies, tickets, or whatever you happen to be marketing at the time. Shirtless Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds got my wife to Wolverine on opening night and I’m sure slow motion shots of Megan Fox sold more than a handful of tickets to Transformers 2 this summer.
Top Cow does intentionally place sexy artwork on our convention variant covers. We recognize there’s a part of our audience that digs them and we’d be bad business people for not giving our fanbase what they want. These covers are put out in a limited release and are primarily sold directly to fans at conventions. Our standard covers tend to reflect the interiors of the comics much more, both in tone and as narrative pieces.
I don’t believe that sexy art and intelligent stories are mutually exclusive. My favorite example in our library is Paul Dini and Kenneth Rocafort’s Madame Mirage, which showcases both a fantastic story and beautiful, sexy art.
They say a picture is worth a thousand words. So I’m going to wrap up by showing off some recent Top Cow covers (above), which appeared in comic shops in the last 6 months and contrast them with some covers from our pals at Marvel Comics and DC Comics (below). Now, before you get riled up, I’m not accusing either company of anything. The only purpose of showing off the cover images is to point out that these two companies (which are not saddled with the preconception of putting out “T and A” books) do occasionally use sex appeal to sell a comic. And most of these examples are probably smart, fun reads too.
I hear on a weekly basis from people who had preconceptions of what Witchblade, or other titles we put out, was like and had those preconceptions turned on their head. If you doubt me, just head over to www.topcow.com. We have a bunch of completely free comics you can check out and judge for yourself.
Next time: There is No House Style.
Take care,
Filip Sablik
Publisher Guy
Filip Sablik is the Publisher of Top Cow Productions, Inc. He’s been in the business for eight years and just officially entered his thirties. Occasionally, he does a bit of writing and drawing. He loves comics.
Top Cow Productions, Inc. was founded by Marc Silvestri, co-founder of Image Comics. Top Cow currently publishes its line of comic books in 21 languages in over 55 different countries. The company has launched 20 franchises (18 original and two licensed) in the industry’s Top 10, seven at #1, a feat accomplished by no other publisher in the last two decades.
October 21st, 2009 at 8:42 am
You know, it’s not so much that “sex appeal” is used to sell comics, it’s that it’s often only one kind of “sexy” that’s used.
The thing about spandex-clad men is that while they’re usually drawn with ideas of strength and power in mind, “sexy” isn’t usually at the forefront of the artist’s mind when they draw them. Male characters get to be sexy without trying to be, usually.
Whereas female characters get exaggerated, stretched, contorted, stripped and posed before they’re seen as “sexy”. It’s weird.
October 21st, 2009 at 9:07 am
Heh heh.
Well done, sir.
October 21st, 2009 at 9:20 am
“The company has launched 20 franchises (18 original and two licensed) in the industry’s Top 10, seven at #1, a feat accomplished by no other publisher in the last two decades. ”
What does that even mean? Are we including stuff like AphroditeIX or whatever? cause, sure, it launched well enough, but now it’s nowhere to be seen and no one even cares.
October 21st, 2009 at 9:48 am
Fascinating. It’s refreshing to hear a publisher admit to intentional ‘sexing up’ of covers to sell books, but at the same time it’s good to see the analogies to other forms of entertainment media making with the sexy to sell. Equally nice to see Filip not apologising for this approach, and why should he?
An intelligent, rational insight into the world of Top Cow. And some of those covers are just hilarious…..
October 21st, 2009 at 10:00 am
Oh, we do it to men too is the worst kind of justification for crap. Shia LeBeouf wasn’t sold for sex in Transformers, nor were any of the other buff dudes.
And yes, sadly, women are pretty much eye candy for comics no matter what their characters. DC does it, Marvel does and yes, you do it too. “Just because” you’re not alone that doesn’t make it right and if you don’t like the label, stop doing it.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:14 am
Top Cow publishes TnA comics…mmm..I don’t see any cover wtih Kurt Angle Holding 10 titles at a single time there..LOL
October 21st, 2009 at 10:35 am
Filip,
Interesting defense, You are absolutely right that other publishers are just as guilty as TOP COW in using excessive amount of sex appeal to sell comics. However the problem why TOP COW gets the T and A preconception is because that’s how the company started off and has never FULLY abbandoned using sex appeal to change the preconceptions. Which is tough to do in this market.
Also WITCHBLADE carries a heavy weight of those preconceptions and the character is inherrently perceived as a T and A character. Which is unfare considering how much changes the book has gone through with Ron Marz. It’s always going to be an uphill battle as long as WITCHBLADE is TOP COW’s Premiere book.
The other publishers are able to get away with sexy covers without the overly negative preceptions because for every sexy cover Marvel and DC put out they have 5 “safe” titles on the shelf. I think Marvel and DC would have to have every one of their titles excessivesly sexed up for entire year before they suffered the same T and A preconceptions that TOP COW does.
So I think ultimately TOP COW just needs more titles that overshadow WITCHBLADE. Titles that specifically would not suffer from the T and A perceptions. I know that seems tough in this market, especially coming from a company that hasn’t really had much success outside of WITCHBLADE or a T and A perceived title.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:38 am
ALL the publishers are guilty of using women/female super heroes as ‘eye candy’. While I ‘understand’ the business behind it, I think it is an artistic/sales device being used a little too much lately.
With respect to Witchblade, Witchblade’s outfit has made her an easier target for criticism than other’s. I think the Cow can do a lot if it gets away from those earlier style covers and focus on story, which they seem to be doing.
Marvel recently annoyed me A LOT with their Amazing Spider-Man solicitations for September that featured the return of the Black Cat. The solicitation was juvenile, sexist and embarrassing. It read in full:
“Look out Spidey! Hot on the heels of his old girlfriend’s trip home, the Black Cat’s back (and front), sexy and more dangerous than ever! The deck is STACKED as the one woman who loves Spider-Man more than Peter Parker is up to some devilish shenannigans…And nothing bugs Spidey more than shenannigans! BRAce yourself for danger, Spidey! It’s gonna be…umm…sexy?”
I sent a complaint about it to Marvel. No response. Imagine a kid’s parents or a woman reading this? I felt dumber after reading it. Plus, all of the covers for this particular arc amped up the ‘sexy’ factor. Oh, and they wrote Black Cat like a “skank” as opposed to an empowered, independant (yet slightly off-kilter) woman who is a unapologetic flirt. Big difference.
SO, yes, it is not just the Cow that is guilty, they all are. I know I am embarrassed to bring home those ‘sexed up’ covers as it illicits eye rolling from my wife and probably justly so. I think ALL publishers could and should THINK of what goes in their solicits and use the ‘sex factor’ more sparingly.
A good story and art will sell more books than cheap gimmicks.
That is all.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:43 am
Yeah, but he admits that they do it to sell books, and given the demographics of who reads comics, sexy men on the covers isn’t going to do the trick.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:00 am
Funny…thought he would added a link to the marvel costume line as part of his defense.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:02 am
@BadthingUS: LOL. If they’d tried to market TF2 on Shia Lebouf’s “sexiness” that thing would’ve been a bigger flop than Catwoman.
Which is all besides the point because I refuse (you heard me) to believe Megan Fox sold any tickets at all for Transformers. People went to TF2 to see GIANT FREAKING ROBOTS beat the crap out of each other. (And I think it failed there, too.)
Besides the point. To say they don’t make men look as sexy as possible is disingenious at best, and an outright lie at worst. Its done right now, and movie companies, TV show execs, and comic publishers are just wrapping their heads around the fact that girls are interested in genre stuff too. Once they fully get that…ohhh….its going to be done a LOT more.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:13 am
I’m gonna be honest. I love boobs.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:27 am
This post is by far the stupidest thing I have ever read. If Top Cow wants to lose it’s well-deserved T&A label then they need to do something different. If losing the T&A label is really that important to them then they need to stop defending the behavior that earned them the label in the first place and start publishing some better comics. The fact of the matter is that sales are more important to Top Cow than changing it’s image is, so we won’t be seeing very much more deep, complex or interesting comics out of them. Ever.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:41 am
When it’s obvious a comic artist is trying to arouse someone with their artwork, I get a little creeped out. Cheesecake or beefcake. I just think it’s weird because in a way it’s like: “Hey, jack off thinking about my work!” and it’s an illustration.
I agree with what was said in the first comment. I think there’s a difference between “sexy” and “vulgar.” A lot of comics tend to move towards vulgarity with how they portray women. Just look at how many covers feature ridiculously arched backs as if the female character is a baboon ready for mounting.
If Top Cow doesn’t want to be seen as a “T and A” publisher, maybe they shouldn’t utilize the tactic as often as they do? Especially with Witchblade, their most well-known title. Marvel, DC, Dark Horse, and Image all have far less “T and A” covers in proportion to the other covers they put on their publications.
I would also say look at the big events that receive the most coverage. With Marvel, House of M, Civil War, and Secret Invasion all had covers that leaned towards highly stylized or painted art to draw people in. Witchblade had an event and there was not only loads of cheesecake, but a ton of news about all the “sexy” variants Top Cow was going to be putting out.
I think cheese-caking also makes you question the talent of the artist because it seems diversionary in nature and doesn’t really celebrate the story. Okay, so they can draw a woman with boobs. Big deal. Any teenage boy with a Sharpie and a bathroom wall can do that. Are those @$$-cheeks hanging out of a thong to distract me from how flat things are? How few panels there are? How non-expressive the face is? Is this issue all about her finding the rest of her clothing?
October 21st, 2009 at 12:27 pm
“The company has launched 20 franchises (18 original and two licensed) in the industry’s Top 10, seven at #1, a feat accomplished by no other publisher in the last two decades. ”
What does that even mean? Are we including stuff like AphroditeIX or whatever? cause, sure, it launched well enough, but now it’s nowhere to be seen and no one even cares.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:09 pm
So, if this kind of T & A sells books, why do I only have two customers who even care about Witchblade? Why do I have copies of every one of those comics sitting on the shelf with no one buying them? I think that it is because the books that sell really well, the ones that people tell their friends about, are the ones that are written well. Top Cow has never accomplished that feat. A company like Top Cow relies on the T & A on its covers to stay afloat. I am glad it works for them. However, to make the claim that it actually sells books…that is a stretch. Good books sell books. Word of mouth sells books. People liking your stuff (for more than just cheap thrills) sells books. Top Cow has a healthy little audience, its no Image or Dark Horse though. Certainly not even in the game with Marvel and DC.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Who cares.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:19 pm
I’m a big proponent as long as it doesn’t descend into softcore porn. Not that I’m an anti-porn guy. I just don’t think it has a place in mainstream super-hero comics.
I think the sex appeal is great. Super-heroes and heroines are idealized. As such I think it’s totally cool that we have these hot, sexy superheroines who also kick bad guys’ butts. I’m not some basement virgin either. Married father of four here so not like I’m getting my jollies off comic book covers. I just love the colorful, idealized and yes, sexy imagery of super-heroines.
I have my limitations. I’ve always found the fact that Witchblade’s costume looks like a bony creature fondling her breasts pretty distasteful. Or Vampirella’s ridiculous costume that in no way would be able to stay on her during a fight. But I don’t and never have bought those books. On the other hand, I love the way Adam Hughes, Greg Land and other artists illustrate hot super babes without going over the top.
I find all these condemnations pretty funny. Are you guys like nerdy milquetoast librarians or something? I just can’t see why you’d want your super-heroines so plain vanilla. They should be the Greek goddesses of the modern age.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Just because you’re only PART of the problem instead of the ENTIRE problem… doesn’t stop it being a problem. Stuff like the covers shown are a HUGE reason why there are never any female customers in comic shops, why comics are still seen as juvenile and inferior literature. “Madame Mirage” could have a story that makes “Asterios Polyp” pale by comparison, but given how it’s packaged, it’s NEVER going to attract anyone outside of the traditional comics nerd. Let alone anyone female. It’s repulsive. Sex and intelligence aren’t mutually exclusive, but this kind of packaging and intelligence are. Imagine a copy of “Lady Chatterly’s Lover” or “Tropic of Cancer” with a garish, glossy, Witchblade-esque cover. How many potential readers would be attracted, and how many scared off? The guy who said that beefcake shots of attractive men on the covers of comics wouldn’t play to the medium’s demographic was absolutely right; but if comics are ever going to sell as “intelligent stories” and not some bizarre porn subspecies, that demographic is going to need to be expanded on. And as long as the material is packaged in covers like the ones showcased in the above article, I don’t see that happening. Let’s evolve, please, instead of fetishizing fictional characters and using the internet to proclaim, “I love boobs.” Come on, guys.
October 21st, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Ironically enough, my Internet connection at work popped up the following access denied error message:
Your request was denied because of its content categorization: “Entertainment;Provocative Attire”
LOL, considering the subject of the blog post, and the fact that I can go to Image Central, Newsarama, Marvel.Com, and DCComics.Com from my work computer… apparently someone in the Internet security community has decided not to get over their preconceptions!
October 21st, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Well said, Filip!
October 21st, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Top Cow is a T&A comics publisher. If it’s looking to be a publisher of quality comics, they have a long way to go. They would have to take a good hard look at what other publishers are doing if they want to turn into something else.
October 21st, 2009 at 9:14 pm
One of my biggest pet peeves, when it comes to how women are drawn in comics, is the “breast pocket.” I can’t stand when a heroine in spandex is drawn with her entire breast showing through her outfit as if she had her outfit made with two pockets on the front to but her breasts in (when the material actually curves underneath the breast itself.) This is something that I still see a lot of in Witchblade unfortunately ex. The last Witchblade cover shown above, where the Witchblade on Dani-the blonde has formed around her entire breast to showcase the side view- not needed at all.) Quite frankly, it disappoints me to read a comic like Witchblade, that has come a certain distance from it’s original take on the female form, and then a convention cover comes out and sends it all back to the start. It’s like one step forward and ten steps back. I love supernatural stuff, and I love the ideas that Top Cow has, but the art is often embarrassing and thus I tend to leave it out when discussing comes with a fellow aficionado.
October 21st, 2009 at 9:18 pm
@Maddy
You say that the male characters in comics are ‘sexy without trying’…but that female characters have to be ‘stretched and contorted’ before being seen as sexy… do you really think real-life guys look like that? Not the last time I looked in the mirror… And however much they make male characters ‘sexy’, it’s a very limited sex appeal.
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:05 am
Methinks he doth protest too much.
(Paraphrasing Hamlet, where the Queen makes the remark.)
Top Cow = T & A
I don’t hate them for it, and if they had any titles worth reading I would do so. I tried Witchblade, but none of the characters were interesting to me, and the artwork (while pretty) was not great sequential art.
I take part of that back: I did like Madame Mirage but it seemed to disappear after a few issues, is it still being published?
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:20 am
@ Matt: I ain’t buying it. Because not only are there publishers inside the industry doing this as well, but there are people OUTSIDE the industry doing it. Videogames, movies, etc. I believe there are things the comics industry needs to do to attract people besides the typical nerd, but “stop making the girls so sexy” isn’t one of them. (Though, a case can certainly be made for doing it anyway.)
@ComixxBoy: I really don’t care about these covers one way or the other. Whether they show attractive men or attractive women. I never spend more than a second or two on a cover anyhow. HOWEVER, I did see Maddy’s point. Its not that guys don’t really look like that–its that when you see a guy being portrayed as sexy, its in a pose that he would easily do even if the artist wasn’t going for that. He’s sexy in a heroic pose, or in an action pose, or whatever. But when its a woman and they’re trying to make HER look sexy? We always get her posed in some odd contorted view that’s got only one purpose: To get the guys to go, “Hey, hot chick!”
Which is kinda strange, as I find little more attractive than a heroic woman that can kick butt on a cover, but, I’m a very strange guy.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:25 am
Hm. Can’t edit these things. I may not have made myself clear and this may leave me open to some sort of attack. What I meant with the very last line in my post was: I think its much cooler to show a female hero in that same “Hey, when you open this comic? Its going to be me, kicking villain butt for 22 pages” pose that they would put a male hero in, as opposed to, say…the Avengers: Initiative cover, where its just two beautiful girls draped over a guy.
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:19 am
Maybe I’m just a poor judge of what “too sexy” looks like, but barely half of those covers seemed all that scandalous to me, and only six really stood out as “ew”-level cheesecake. The rest of them look pretty classy. The main audience of superhero comics is men, and if publishers have figured out that “babe with a gun” is the kind of cover that sells, more power to ‘em.
(And even if superhero comics don’t play up the looks of their male characters, take a look at the covers of shoujo manga volumes. Anything that’s not the heroine dolled up in a cute outfit is bound to feature one of her fashion-model-lookalike love interests.)
Is it a bit sad that some publishers resort to putting out the sleaziest covers they can get away with? Maybe, but the point of a cover is to draw eyes fast, and it’s hard to depict “intellectual maturity, a good sense of humor, and a nice personality” in one image, male or female.
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:10 pm
BT: Exactly what I was thinking. Seconded!
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:48 pm
What the hell is going on with the breasts of that woman (it’s a woman, right?) on the cover of “Sky Doll”?
Is “Sky Doll” a series about bondaged breasts?
If it is, then the cover is appropriate for the material inside.
If not, then I have no idea what’s going on there.
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:54 pm
I agree with Maddy.
It’s sad that you let your preconceived notions continue to make up lame excuses for the status quo. “Everybody else is doing it” is about THE lamest excuse one could come up with, I think. Whoever else brought up the fact that you should DO SOMETHING about it, instead of blog about it, was right.
T&A would be fine except that it has a history of being used only for straight male readers, to the patronizing of those not interested in DD titties hanging out of ridiculous strips of fabric, and posed with broken backs and horrid anatomy. I don’t mind attractive women–I mind the stupidly exaggerated and excessiveness of it.
Why do you think the rise of the manga market coincided with larger levels of female readers? That would be because someone was paying real attention to them in the T&A and story department (and it didn’t even need to be exaggerated). We don’t usually get that. You want to sell more? Branch out. Don’t make lame excuses for your preconceived notions.
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:51 pm
A well-written character can be a lot sexier and more arousing than some vaguely human female form with cantaloupes taped to her chest. This stuff appeals to adolescents only.
October 23rd, 2009 at 4:11 pm
“They do it, too.” is not a defence nor is it a persuasive argument for reading your books nor are your regular covers measurably less T&A than the con variants. Either sack up and stand by your work or ditch the T&A but whining that you don’t get the respect you deserve just because you print covers of anatomically impossible busty, hippy, semi-nude women is punk BS.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:03 pm
But I do love boobs.
October 24th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Richard J. Marcej:
You ask : “What the hell is going on with the breasts of that woman (it’s a woman, right?) on the cover of “Sky Doll”?
a) Is “Sky Doll” a series about bondaged breasts?
b) If it is, then the cover is appropriate for the material inside.
c) If not, then I have no idea what’s going on there.”
a) No it’s not
b and c) Sky doll is science fiction. The girl of the cover is named noa and she is a robot, named “Sky doll” created as a response of the main religion of the planet getting power hungry and represing female sexuality as a result. Organic Women were forced to cover themselves and try to live as “madonnas” mostly chaste and enduring the suffering of sexism instead of fighting it; so robots named dolls were chreated to be a sexual outlet for men, who also mostly control this religion even if the main figurehead is a woman. In this way many guys could have their cake and eat it too as having sex with a doll wasn’t really “sinning”.
Fetish outfit was the uniform of her last job before she escaped, and she actually ditched it at the first chance, she is not excempt of using other sexy outfits, but at least there is a reason for some.
October 25th, 2009 at 12:54 am
Reason why D.C. and Marvel don’t seems to have to try as much is because they can operate solely on the strength of their intellectual properties. These are well-known franchises, so they can just sell it in whichever way they feel like doing, and there’s guaranteed patronage.
Dunno with Top Cow, ‘coz the company seems to have evolved to a considerable extent. Nonetheless, the company seems to operate within very defined parameters when it comes to their Witchblade character. Stephan Seijic and Ron Marz are trying; however, even their efforts don’t seem adequate enough to pull the whole thing out of its basic fantasy-sci-fi ‘FHM’ template. I look at those covers, and can’t shake the underlying feeling it’s about a buncha bikini models posing. It seems stilted like that. The characters are based around a specific design sense, a mandated template, which, to me, limits story possibilities. It’s where the money seems to lie, sure. But the whole thing could be so much more than that. At the very least, it could be something ELSE. The live-action TV incarnation, for instance, was a very good precedent.
And I do find ‘sexy variant covers’ ABSURD.
October 25th, 2009 at 1:03 am
That being said, by and large, Anglo-American illustration gets a pass, because the Japanese are far worse at this.
And Disney.
October 25th, 2009 at 1:21 am
First, I must applaud Mr. Sablik for having the courage to start a dialogue with comic fans about the issue of using sex to sell comics.
That being said, there are important points he made that I must respectfully disagree with.
The argument that men are as objectified as women in comics is one that I have heard often from comic fans, professionals and industry pundits.
This premise is faulty. Yes, the drawings of male super-heroes are idealized, but not sexualized like their female counterparts. That’s a BIG difference.
How often do you see male super-heroes in porn star poses? Or drawn with exaggerated emphasis placed on their groins?
Yes, I do agree that Top Cow should be judged based on the actual content of their comics.
However, as stated in an earlier comment, if the company wants to overcome their “T & A” image, just stop using images of that nature. Period.
As the old adage goes, actions speak louder than words.
October 25th, 2009 at 1:55 am
@iola :
Speaking as a former anime fan, I could attest that the large female following is due to the manga being ‘feminine’ in character. Which implies an even creepier brand of fetishism – when the subjugated, perenially-aroused creators within a HIGHLY patriarchal culture start ‘identifying’ with their subjects, in the same sorta way that Buffalo Bill wants to wear actual female breasts. Aren’t these the types who’d tend to put panties over their heads ? But it’s alright, ‘coz the girls in the HIGHLY patriarchal world are finding solace in friggin ‘Sweet Valley High’ stuff written by a buncha latent rapists.
That’s really where all that stuff gets their market strength : PATRIARCHAL CONDITIONING. Girls gravitate to them because they’ve been made to stick with them, in the same way they’re being told to stick with pretty dresses, teenage crushes, and friggin’ nail polish. In that sense, the much-touted large female following don’t seem that much of a complement. Might as well say that ‘Twilight’ is good for literature. Nowadays, they’ve moved onto kids. Friggin’ hopeless.
I find stuff like ‘Whiteout’, Alan Grant’s ‘Judge Anderson’ story, Air, and anything involving Jenny Sparks far healthier material for ladies. If we could only focus on the actual handling of the content and characters, PLEASE….
October 25th, 2009 at 10:03 am
I know this is not going to be popular but has anyone thought that sex covers might even sell more copes to women? I am not saying it is turning them on or anything but I find it telling how often attractive women showing lots of skin show up on the cover of books that are mostly sold to women.
October 25th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
I’m curious to know how many people have read Witchblade recently that have commented on here.
October 26th, 2009 at 4:10 am
im the artist on witchblade, love the comic for the fact is is now a truly character driven read , i vee read alot of hipocricy here, but couldnt care less, thing is many people are whining and many have a solid point, those who dislike the sexy variants, i happen to agree with them, true some of the most recent ones were really well done,
but … those who claim the comic is about tits and ass have obviously never read it in the last few years, i for one hate tna, i refuse to do it, if guys at top cow decided to go back to the old metal bigini that magically removes all articles of clothing, id leave the title and never look back,
for me witchblade is a title with alot of potential for truly epic stories, villains and heroes that are greater than life.
tna is a relis of the nineties and thats where it should remain,
now i know there are anal people who will complain that the characters look sexy… to them here is an auztomatic response, try finding golden girls the comic
i mean i get it, you dont like the sexy variants, ill allways flat out say that i hate them and they stand against all that im trying to do with the art direction but from some of the comments here im getting the feeling pope and his cardinals are visiting these forums quite often
loosen up people, ull get yourself a cardiac arrest
October 27th, 2009 at 5:11 am
@Pontius Pilate: I believe Iola was referring primarily to shoujo (girls’) manga, which is mostly written and drawn by women. A number of the artists in question may be at least somewhat guilty of endorsing patriarchal ideals of femininity, but they’re not “subjugated, perenially-aroused [male] creators” analogous to a bunch of Buffalo Bills who want to achieve breasts of their own by dressing up in someone else’s skin.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:13 am
Just like to put out there that I’m a girl and I love the Witchblade title. I will admit that comics do tend to over-sexify its characters but that’s just the way it rolls. As impossible as it is to fight in a tube leotard without it falling down, Wonder Woman won’t stop wearing it in favour for a tank top. As hard and painful it is to run and kick ass in high heels, female characters still will wear them.
Witchblade is no longer a T&A title. Yeah at the beginning Michael Turner may have over-sexified Sara but the story was strong. Later writers and artists may had temporarily turned it into a T&A title with *blink* and Sara’s lost her shirt again which has no relation to the plot but Ron Marz and Stjepan Sejic’s current run has done a complete turnaround. It’s a character story that doesn’t involve naked Sara – unless relevant of course – which just proves that Top Cow is evolving.
A bit of T&A will always be present somehow in comics but sex sells. Living in this age, one would think that most people would’ve become immune to it to an extent and concentrate on the stories rather than the hot semi-naked chicks that are seemingly everywhere – from our magazines to TV to music.
Frankly I’d rather see the strong (sexy) female lead kick some ass within a great story rather than the pretty and conservative, apathetic girl waiting on her man to save her (Why does Twilight exist?). Why not save the world with style?
November 9th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
@ Margaret : ‘ Somewhat ‘ guilty ?
Look at their recent drawings and their work. Practically got ‘sex offender’ written all over those.
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