I checked, and Mon El does not have breasts. Someone needs a proofreader!

For me, I think Congorilla and Cyborg shouldn’t both be in there. It’s redundant to have two big men on the team. I think I go for Cyborg because he does have brains as well as brawn.

As for the rules you use for what makes a JLA member, haven’t they been thrown out the window a long time ago. As a “youngster” I think that the main point of the JLA is to gather a force that can coordinate their powers when an emergency is too tough for an individual hero.

I think the original members will be back after Blackest Night anyway. No worries.

No speedster, and there’s a glut now. No Dinah, despite Ollie being on the team. No WW, probably for plot reasons. And a lot of Titans, which makes me wonder who’s going to be in Titans besides Wally (whose tenure in the JLA has been quite long and quite successful, and yet…).

I like some of these heroes. I like Dick, I like Cyborg, I like Ollie and Hal. But this just lacks any sort of JLA feel, even compared to the Giffen era. Silly or not, that team started with Batman and J’Onn and Captain Marvel and Dr. Fate.

Toss in the vasy disregard for CFJ, and this could be a very odd and very unsuccessful JLA revamp. But it can’t be any more painful than the Meltzer team. I found The Tornado’s Path in the library for FREE and still couldn’t make myself finish it.

Ha! I had a feeling you would write about this probable new JLA line-up, Caleb!

I agree with most of your reasoning here, but I have to say that I’m kind of disappointed that Robinson ultimately decided not to put together a more “iconic” team. Now, I like Hal Jordan and Oliver Queen on the team, and I think the replacement “Trinity” will serve the title well until the real Big Three return. In addition, I think it’s safe to say that Robinson is really making every effort to write a Ray Palmer: Rebirth story in both his Justice League: Cry for Justice miniseries and this JLA flagship title. It’s working so far.

On the other end of the spectrum, I’m not a fan of having Starfire and Cyborg on this team. They’re Titans, plain and simple.

As far as the Guardian is concerned, well, this may actually be his (real) breakout book. Looking at the image and how he’s positioned front and center, I can’t help but think of Captain America.

So, yeah, I guess it’s a good team. I just wish there was a Flash on the roster as well. That would make it more iconic, no?

RR

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Uh… have you read “Cry for Justice”?

OK I’ll throw it out there and get it out of the way one time: I like having Cyborg on the team because he’s a brother…well at least half of him is.

Now personal vanity aside, the logical reason in my mind for him, Bat “wing” and Donna Troy to join the team is just like Wally’s back in the day: they have grown suitably into the roles.

I agree Starfire, Guardian and ‘rilla doesn’t seem to be suitable fits…for now. And with Oliver back doesn’t that again retard the growth of Roy?

To tell the truth, I am burned out on Hal in the JLA books in comparison to Guy and Kyle but I understand that the JLA needs a GL and from the looks of these events John Stewart might not be coming out of Blackest Night ‘alive’.

Mon-El needs to be back with the Legion. Nuff Said.

But a great writer could make anything work. Ball is in your court Mr. Robinson!

Even though that Atom is probably Ray Palmer, I’m still gonna hold out hope for Ryan Choi.

I don’t know if this is on purpose but, if you squint, the bottom left corner of the image looks like Avengers analogs:

Guardian-Captain America
Cyborg-Iron Man
Green Arrow-Hawkeye
Atom-Ant-Man

Am I reading too much into this?

I read somewhere recently that the team will be a revolve in and out kind of team instead of a standing group.

So we’ll really only see a handful of those folks at once, not all of them.

And yes, Mon-El’s costume is terrible.

A couple of thoughts:

1) Someone mentioned we have a glut of speedsters. True soon (probably by the time this comes out), but most of them are tied up in FLASH: REBIRTH at the moment.

2) You left out Starfire’s most unique (and rarely used) power – the ability to learn a language by kissing someone.

I like this, especially since there’s no point in keeping the Titans book around with this line-up. The Titans characters have deserved to graduate from their teen club for a long time, and the writing on the current series hasn’t done anything to make me thing otherwise. Okay, okay, I haven’t read the recent issues…but the path Winnick set didn’t make me want to do so. Even if you get top-notch writers on the Titans the strength of the stories will be inevitably flawed if the New Teen Titans characters are the main characters.

Having the Titans together as their own team rather than the new JLA makes them look pathetic, like they’re trying to hold on to the past. It’s like Al Bundy talking about the time he scored 3 touchdowns in high school. Robinson is doing the right thing by putting some on the JLA, while other teams (i.e. Doom Patrol for Garth) can pick up the others. If DC ends up with too many characters to put on the JLA – like when Wonder Woman, Batman, and Superman inevitably return – they can find some plot device to make 2 JLA teams. See the current JSA books, current Avengers books, et cetera for example. Letting the Titans mature in terms of compotency and responsibility instead of just age is way, way overdue.

… Wake me when Bruce and Clark, not to mention J’onn J’onnz, are back. And Didio gets fired.

It strikes me as “who is available?” line-up, given the large number of B and C-listers.

That said, I loved what Giffen and DeMatties made of a similar type of line-up. James Robinson has that type of talent, if editorial can stop monkeying with this title.

I dunno… this line-up seems pretty cool to me. Donna Troy, Starfire and Cyborg are probably too old for the Titans, and should “graduate” to the bog leagues along with Batman II. I like that Mon-El is here… I hope he and Batman II develop a rapport which is more along the lines of the old World’s Finest team. It’ll be nice to see Guardian on the team too.

I’m not sure about Green Lantern… He might try to throw his weight around and try to dominate the younger kids, but Green Arrow should be able to keep him in line.

I’d also like to see that this team avoids some of the dark turns that “Cry for Justice” has taken. I don’t want it to be “Super Friends” but I’d like this to be the kind of team book that doesn’t exclude kids from its sensibility in the way that “Cry for Justice” and other books have done lately.

So far I like the line up.

I dig Mon-El, Dick, and Donna essentially becoming the new Trinity. They’re probably the main reason I’ll be picking this up.

Cyborg joining has been a long time coming. I also like The Guardian being on there. I’ve been itching to see more of him. Congorilla is an interesting choice, I’m interested to see how he does

I’m glad Dr. Light is back, though I wish they brought back Plastic Man too.

Starfire is okay, though I would have preferred Firestorm(though Blackest Night 3 seems to have robbed me of that).

Hal is okay, but as much as I like him, I would have rather had Kyle. Same with the Atom, Ray’s okay, but they should have gone with Ryan. They need to do something with him, and by that I don’t mean kill him off.

Green Arrow I actually like being on there. I’m fine with him.

Overall, I give the lineup a 7/10. I had to also take points off for the lack of Wally West. Though maybe he’ll join later.

Congorilla being in the Justice is all I need to know. That one thing in and of itself makes me not want anything to do with it. I am trudging through “Call For Justice”, but other than nice art…it sucks, in my opinion. We have a replacement superman, replacement Batman, replacement Wonder Woman, etc, etc. I understand the concept, and appreciate, making some of the “lower tier” heroes (which in DC pretty much means anyone outside of the trinity) a staple by putting them in DC’s premiere team-up book, but still…this just doesn’t look appealing.

Perhaps my problem here is that I normally “Make mine MARVEL!”, so I don’t know. I still read plenty of DC comics monthly, even though I am pondering the prospect of dropping “Red Robin” and “Batman and Robin” and picking up Secret Six. We’ll see, but as a guy who is mostly into DC for Green Lantern (sorry, Hal Jordan IS the greatest Green Lantern and Guy Gardner might be the “coolest”), Flash, Batman (although currently I want this to change), and a few others…this team just doesn’t interest me. At least when MARVEL made New Avengers they added people I wanted in a group. We’ll see.

I think that Mon-el has no place there. If member of the Superfamily should take Superman’s place on the League it is Conner aka Superboy. He is the one I think should be there instead of Mon-El. I mean I like Mon-El and all but his place is with the Legion not the Justice League and he needs to go back there asap. I understand the reason why Mon-El was used in Superman is because Conner was dead at the time but now that he is back it is time to show the man some respect. However the only other person who doesn’t belong is Starfire who is starting to come off more and more as Dick’s groupie then anything else. Also she does is follow Dick around.

I love the new line-up at first look. I’m glad they scrapped the current team. I like having 3 classics (GL, GA, Atom), and the 4 Titans getting their shot. Mon-El is also a plus. I’v e enjoyed his run in Superman lately. Time will tell.

I like this roster. It showcases the elevation of DCs second generation heroes with a good smattering of older generation tempering. Basically, it gives a second generation the chance to shine alongside their older peers while not being overshadowed by the traditional mentors (Superman, Wonder Woman and Batman).

Ummm… Dick IS the World’s Greatest Acrobat. Says so on the DC website’s Origin page for him.

Nothing about Congorilla makes him a goof fit for the JLA. After that assessment, is it even worth reading on?

Looks like I’ll be saving some money.

Goodbye, Cry for Justice. Goodbye, Justice League of America.

where’s the FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grayson as Batman will not last of course…re: the Search for Bruce Wayne Aftermath: We’ve Found Him #1, shipping January 2011.

I really love to see Mon and Dick on the team, but I don’t really understand what the Guardian is doing here, much as I’m loving the character on Superman, it doesn’t look as being the leader of the Science Police leaves much free time to go hang with the League.

The characters I can’t even look at, as they are plain boring are Starfire and Cyborg. On the bright side, I suppose the Titans will get some interesting aditions (I recall someone said something about Deathstroke leading the team?).

And yeah, Hal should stick to the Green Lantern book, from a story point of view, it doesn’t look like he has much time to be around (hey, and riddle me this: how fast do the GL rings travel? It’s not like they teleport or something, you clearly see everyone flying around space, but they get to OA in a few hours or so, instead of lightyears XD).

Anyway, Hal surely looks like a moron by what you state above, but John has close to zero charm (at least for me). I think Guy should come back to the League, and leave GL Corps for Kyle, John and the rest of the Corps.

What – “Agents of Atlas” has an ape in the roster so the JLA needs one too?

The Brotherhood of Evil – not THAT was a good monkeycentric team.

And yet another reason why I will not be supporting this book, and probably focusing more on Marvel Books. This book is really made up mostly of side-kicks and b-listers, who really don’t need to be in the League (Congorilla???? For Real?????). DC has done nothing to keep my interest, and what started out as strong books (Red Robin, Batman & Robin) are now losing my interest. DC straighten up or you are going to be dropping sales further below Marvel.

I think I’ll be dropping JLA for a while. Robinson’s inferior work on Cry for Justice and this lineup give me the last push I need to drop a title that I have been buying more out of habit than anything else.

This is an odd line-up but I think I like it. It feels a little too Titans heavy, too many all at once, but I think Cyborg is long overdue, so I’m onboard.

I like giving a new roster a chance. I mean it’s not like we haven’t had years and year so the super iconic version. Sometimes characters are picked not for just how they stand on their own (since it’s a team book) but how they play off one another. So hopefully there are some interesting stories.

Like everyone there are characters I’d love to see in from time to time but I don’t subscribe to this ultra-permanent version that never deviates, that too is boring. (Especially since we all know the uber iconic version will be back in the future.) I’m willing to have fun with something else.

Cyborg would be a cool addition if he was one of only three newbies. He has more powers that just strength, or at least he used to.

Congorilla? Never read any story with him. Guardian? Obvious Captain America clone here. And if they included Black Canary, they’d have four characters with no powers in the league: her, Green Arrow, Nightwing, and Guardian. They’d be cannon fodder. Except for her Hippo Hurricane Holler, I guess.

I’m glad there’s no Vixen. They constantly tried to make her a big deal when she was just a weak character. Same kind of thing that’s been tried/forced with Damage, Dani Moonstar, various “Steel” characters (except John Henry Irons, who was cool).

Firestorm will always need to be Ronnie Raymond. Jason has grown on me as a good, likable character, but not as Firestorm. And the two-party sources of Firestorm have previously affected the character of the Firestorm composite. Remember when that Russian guy was one of the sources? Firestorm acted quite differently. Now whoever is the partner just seems to solely be the person Jason talks to in his head.

I’d rather see Power Girl or Supergirl than Mon-El. And I must be the only one getting tired of Green Lantern. Blackest Night seems to be the same formula: Enemy who is absolutely unbeatable for 90% of story will be easily beaten in last 10%. I could take Kyle, John, or Guy Gardner here, though. Guy is the only arrogant character that’s entertaining in a team book. The rest of the team would kill Dr. Light in her sleep just because of her attitude.

Hmm.. Wow, after that yawn-tastic roster, it’s no wonder the Giffen-DeMatteis era JLI/JLE holds such high favor. Even if the stories were funny (and, really, with angst-heavy storylines both DC, and Marvel, are serving up, funny would be highly welcome right about now!), the rosters on both teams were solid, with dialogue you could remember long after the story was over. Sorry, but yet once again, DC pulls an epic fail in my eyes.

Has the cancellation of the Titans book been announced? From this JLA lineup, it looks imminent.

“No members that are too iconic with another group: Donna Troy, Starfire, Cyborg, Raven, Geo-Force, Wolverine.”

Yes, that would never work. I mean it’d be like doing something crazy like taking Beast from X-Men and putting him on the Avengers. Or Iceman and Angel from the same team and putting them in some weird title like Defenders.

Or I suppose moving Black Canary or Power Girl from JSA to JLA.

Back to the issue of the line-up. Is “Cry for Justice” going to be concluded before the new lineup debuts? Presumably the new lineup will mesh from that somehow. Unfortunately I can’t stand the way Hal is written in that book. This is the Hal from the 90′s that turned into Parallax. With all the growth Johns has given the character this feels like way too many steps back.

I thought I saw a rumor somewhere that there would be a second JLA book and that Vixen was definitely part of that lineup. If that’s true, then I’m slightly mollified. If there was one character that deserves some more time in the JLA spotlight, it’s Vixen. Best character from JLDetroit – which I actually liked. I also liked the Giffen/DeMatteis era and it shows you can write a good book with mostly 2nd and 3rd tier characters.

I HATED Morrison’s JLA. It was pretentious and mostly Morrison’s verison of Silver Age JLA stories. Everyone raved about wanting Tomorrow Woman back. She was a one-off character in a single issue story. A story that was basically a knock-off on the JLA/JSA crossover story that told Red Tornado’s origin (well one of his origins).

I will probably give this a brief chance, but unless Robinson’s writing is better than it is in “Cry for Justice” I’ll probably drop it.

Reading Len Wein’s fill in arc, I wish he were on the title. First story in ages that’s felt like a JLA story.

I’d like to see Firestorm stick around – whether it’s Jason, Ronnie, or both of them sharing the matrix. Zatanna would be nice too.

Oh, and everyone knows the editing is pretty much a joke on here, but one of my pet peeves – something is complementary if it goes well together; complimentary is saying something nice about someone (or something that’s given out for free).

Does it seem DC is trying to bring in a bunch of heroes that no one is really that familiar with and make them iconic? Sort of like Bendis did with Luke Cage, Spider-woman, etc. I’m not bashing them for it, who knows with a good writer. It could turn out to be a fantastic book. No one liked the New Avengers when they first came out but now it’s Marvel’s top selling book.

I’ll give the book a shot, for no other reason then Robinson’s stellar past writing, and i’m a big believer that any character can be interesting if you have someone talented writing them.

Secondly i have to ask, What’s with all the Hal-hate?
I’m sorry, but he’s hands down the best Green Lantern, and one of D.C.’s biggest draws. Kyle is pretty thoroughly uninteresting, and Guys best moment was getting punched in the face by Batman.
I do like John though, just not as much as Hal.

Not getting into the “Hal-in-General” hate (though I totally agree with you that there are no bad characters just badly written ones… except for maybe Hal), there’s the very specific Hal-Written-By-Robinson hate which stems from how he’s been used so far in Cry For Justice. Just search the internet and you’ll find a bunch of commentary.

I’m excited about this. It’s different. Although it’s like “The Titans graduated” but I’m willing to give it a shot. Are they cancelling the “Titans” book? I would have liked to see Wally on the team but that’s just me.

Having Hal and Ollie on ANY book just rules. Throw Hawkman in and I’m sold.

Starfire has no reason to be on this team. Why she’s there I don’t know. I don’t like it. It seems like she’s there just following Dick around. Donna should get a code name. Troia was perfectly fine to give a nod to her Amazon heritage. What are Donna’s powers now anyway? Wasn’t she supposed to be the new Harbinger? (or was that retconned already?)

I love that Dr. Light is on the team. She’s really interesting and I love her personality. I wish Firestorm was there. Ditch Starfire and add Firestorm.

Mon-El I’m ok with. Congorilla, cool, that’s different. Atom I’m ok with. He needs direction and this should be good for him. Cyborg. He should have been on the team from the re-launch. Why now though? Guardian? It could be cool but I’m not holding my breath on him being the next “break-out Super-Hero”.

This probably sounds too negative but it’s really not meant to be. I’m excited about a new line-up and Robinson in general. IMO, tweaks should be made as stated above but I’m looking forward to this.

Sorry DC, the lineup doesn’t interest me. I will spend my money else where.

Sigh…as usual, you have the cry-babies crawling out of the woodwork complaining about how it “can’t be the JLA” without THIS character or THAT character or THIS line-up. Well, guess what? It can and it is. Your childhood is over, just accept it and quit trying to recapture it in the line-up of a comic book team.

That said, I love this new line-up. While I’m not the biggest fan of some of the members (GA, Starfire, Donna Troy), I do think it’s a great way to shake things up and get some new blood in there, vs. just a retread of a forty-year-old lineup. Cyborg is long overdue, the Atom under Robinson is the first time he’s ever been interesting, the Guardian does bring in a new dynamic, and Congorilla will probably wind up being my favorite character in the book. Bringing in obscure characters and fleshing them out is Robinson’s trademark…just look at the Shade.

And as other people have said, I’m sure there’s going to be a second League book soon that’ll have Clark, Bruce, Diana, Barry, Dinah–maybe even Vixen and Mera–sometime next year. Maybe that’ll shut the cry-babies up.

I’m planning to give it a try. James Robinson is an excellent writer and is doing a great job with Mon-El right now. I wonder whats going to happen with Vixen since she has received so much attention in the current story-line in JLA. It would be a disappointment to see her do back into Limbo.

Well I guess you can count me as a “crybaby” if by “crybaby” you mean having an opinion about who I’d like to see as the JLA line-up and not just be a lemming and accept it. According to some people’s logic I guess Titans-Lite is supposed to just be it and the rest of us will have to deal with it.

Me? I like to poke the tiger.

Don’t much care for the grown up Titans on the team. We refer to them as Titans, why? Because that’s where they’re best associated with…not the JLA.

In my opinion, and that’s all it is, I prefer the “adult” JLA: Supes, Bats, WW, J’onn, Atom, Hal & Ollie, Canary, Aquaman, Hawkman and Phantom Stranger. I always did like Phantom Stranger as a reserve member. I like the Old School icons getting the big business done as opposed to “the kids”. Being a long time JLA reader, this group doesn’t fill me with the warm fuzzies. We’ll see. That’s pretty much it so we’ll see what happens.

Oh yeah… wah,wah.

I’m avoiding Dick Grayson in Bruce’s costume, hoping there is a plan to get him back in action as his own man as soon as Morrison is done playing with Damian. That in itself would keep me off of this book.

Other than that, I don’t have any need for a Justice League that isn’t a combination of the big stars with some cool smaller characters. No one on that cover is a big enough deal to make this a “big enough” team to be the JLA, except in an emergency fill-in situation.

If one member of the trinity was replaced by his/her next-level counterpart while the other two were present, that could be really cool. This…well, I can’t say it won’t be well done, but I’m not interested.

Sadly, my impression of this book is that it will fail badly. This is due to a couple of issues:

1. The Justice League has always been most successful as a showcase of the biggest, most recognizable names working together, the “all-star” team-ups of the most merchandised and recognizable characters. That was the draw. At this point, the most recognizable character is “Batman,” one who most casual readers (the ones who saw the movies) aren’t even familiar with! Making these guys the new Doom Patrol…THAT might work.

2. I love Robinson, but so far there has been a lot of noise about WHO the new Justice League is, and not nearly enough engaging information as to WHY. Cry For Justice might answer that, but if that’s the case, it doesn’t bode well, considering the generally sour reviews.

3. With Blackest Night taking the lion’s share of attention for DC, any new book launch, (let alone one filled with B-list at best characters)won’t go anywhere. Without a little heat and controversy over the STORY, there’s not much to work with. So what makes this Justice League THE BEST ONE EVER? Nothing, as far as I can see.

Good luck, DC. Good luck, Robinson.

I feel that Justice League works best as a book that’s somewhat detached from continuity so I was a bit puzzled by the removal of all the principals. Batman and Superman, ok maybe in the current context of those characters but… why didn’t they just have Wonder Woman assume duties as a leader? This idea of Dan Didio’s that “We take away the principal characters so readers will realise why they matter” always struck me as half-assed. They’re the Big Three. We know why they matter AT A GLANCE!

This line up looks good in the context but I suspect that the book will continue to struggle until the Big Three are back on the roster. Notice that they fell heavily onto the core Titans roster to keep some of that heart of the DCU resonance

Not that I’m gonna buy it, cause Greg Rucka seems to have stolen James Robinson’s ability to write, like Magneto used to do to Rogue, but here are my thoughts on trying to do JLA without all the big guns there:

1) Dick Grayson as Batman-actually a solid choice. He’s got almost all of Bruce’s positives and very few of his negatives, plus he’s a natural-born leader.
2) Mon-El-Again, decent choice if we aren’t gonna have the big guy’s around
3) Mary Marvel-More interesting than Donna Troy (but everyone is more interesting than Donna Troy), plus she’s tapped into the magical side of the DCU. It’d be neat to see her redemption following Final Crisis.
4) John Stewart-JLA’s a good home for him, he’s a team player, and with a less experienced line-up, he may get to show off his leadership and knowledge a bit more
5) Vixen: She’s actually become a character, which is about the only thing that Meltzer’s League accomplished
6) Red Arrow: Roy would be the other thing Meltzer and co. did well. Love the character, and having him on board when Dick is around would be fascinating.
7)The Ray: It would be fun to see him grow up a bit, both as a hero and as a tech-guy (he was a hacker, as I recall). His powerset would also let him fill in for a Flash.

I’m totally living in the past, but I feel like the Meltzer lineup had such potential. To see it now completely scrubbed away; I just don’t get it. Red Arrow — great character. Black Canary — they did such a great job on Birds of Prey with her, and then they put her in charge of the league and it all falls down.

I agree with the comment about Robinson writing Green Lantern, too. It’s like a completely different person than we see in GL. Not good.

I think part of the line-up has a lot of promise — Mon (as the Superman analogue), Batman III, and Donna (as the Wonder Woman analogue), plus Atom, GL, GA, and Doctor Light. But then we have all of these Titans running around and…Guardian. That makes no sense to me at all. Where is Black Canary? Where is the Flash? (There are like a million of them running around right now; not one of them could make the roster?) Where is Plas? Where is Vixen? I’m all for mixing the heavy-hitters with lesser-known characters, but I see absolutely zero point in bringing in more than half the cast from Titans to fill up the Justice League when there are PLENTY of past and present-day Leaguers that could use some exposure. Boo.

Who knew that a post about the new JLA line-up would turn into a post about a guy throwing a fanboy crybaby rant about how much Hal sucks. Honestly what is it with the Hal haters the makes them such big crybabies?, does a fictional character threaten you so much that you can’t even give an unbiased reason as to why he should or should not be in the JLA comic. Get over whatever issues you have and stop coming off like a pathetic whinner, seriously it’s embarrasing when grown people can’t seperate reality from comics.

Who knew that a post about the new JLA line-up would turn into a post about a guy throwing a fanboy crybaby rant about how much Hal sucks. Honestly what is it with the Hal haters the makes them such big crybabies?, does a fictional character threaten you so much that you can’t even give an unbiased reason as to why he should or should not be in the JLA comic. Get over whatever issues you have and stop coming off like a pathetic whinner, seriously it’s embarrasing when grown people can’t seperate reality from comics.

Er, okay. So why are you defending this fictional character as if people were making fun of your dad?

I can safely say I really have no desire to read about any but 2 of those characters in this book, and I’ve been on JLA since the last several issues of the previous title and the relaunch of the new one. I like Bagley’s art, but it’s not enough to justify spending the money to buy a team book with maybe 2 characters I even have interest in on a monthly basis.

Darqueguy, I’ve read all these commment, and you’re (and me, I guess) are in the minority on this.

I just love having a bunch of heroes in one book- that’s the top reason I read any team book. Then it’s the writing, THEN it’s the lineup. I think you can put a cape on a dog turd and I’ll read it if the author can convince me why Poo Man is awesome and shouldn’t get a Black Adam fist through his fecal chest.

OK, enough poo talk from me. I think that the JLA needs SOMETHING to get this book foremost in people’s minds again. Judging from the response of the few here, it is depending heavily on the writing.

I think at the end of Blackest Night a new Justice League will be formed by Johns.

You already have what you need for an interesting League if you look at who the big Black Lanterns have been and who of them are likely to return before the swinging door of death at DC closes.

Black Lanterns I expect to return from the dead are Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Hawkman, Hawkgirl, Firestorm (Ronnie), Elastic Man, Hawk and Dove, and probably more I’m not thinking of right now. You throw them on a team, led by a returned Bruce or a revived Wonder Woman (if she’s going to die, as the DC Direct figure implies), and you have a pretty solid team.

They’d all have the Blackest Night thing in common, explaining what brought them together really easily. Hopefully Johns will write it.

“I think the beef against the Titans characters is that almost half the new team are Titans who got recruited for the JL while still having a monthly team book of their own.

As a current Titans reader, I wish they stuck to their own book, rather than join someone else. All you need is Raven, Beast Boy and Flash. Instead of importing these guys to the JLA, why not create some energy for their existing book?”

But let’s face facts, the Titans book has been…..terrible. As a team, they just don’t work anymore(at least not like how they’ve been portrayed). I think Titans would work better if they didn’t treat it as a team book, and just as a book chronicling the lives of the former Titans, in and especially out of costume.

Where is Wonder Woman? People keep saying she is missing with Bruce and Clark, but I guess no one is reading her awesome book. She is alive, on earth, as Wonder Woman. Nothing preventing her from being in the League.

This team could be interesting. It doesn’t overly excite me, but I may give it a chance. I’ve surprised there is no speedster because it seems we are going to have plenty around. I wonder what this means for the Titans.

I’d be much more excited about this book if we knew there were going to be more than one JL book. There are what, 4 Avengers books? Why can’t we have more Justice League books? I’d love to see a JLE or JLI again. I’d also LOVE to see another teen team book!!!

and booo to no Plastic Man!

I’ve got mixed feelings about the team.

Batman: Dick is more than ready. I’m happy to see him there. Plus it could lead to some interesting interactions with the veterans. Do they accept him as Batman?

Donna: I understand why she’s there, but this character has been killed, brought back and generally ret-coned so often I find it impossible to care about her any more. Not sure who a better choice would have been, but there are plenty of other female super heroes who I’d have rather seen. Black Canary comes to mind, as does Oracle, who should be an official member due to the value she could add to the team.

Mon-El: Belongs with the Legion. If you need a replacement for Superman who fits in the JLA, how about Freddy/Captain Marvel/Shazam or even Supergirl? Both have higher recognition and a greater history with the League.

Green Arrow: I have no problem with him being on the team, though I worry that Roy is going to get swept under the rug again.

Hal Jordan: He certainly belongs, but isn’t he a little busy? I’d rather see John Stewart in this role, who arguably has better recognition due to his role in the JLA/JLU cartoons.

Starfire: She’s powerful, but is she really disciplined enough to be a member of the JLA? I figure she’s there because of the interplay with Dick, which I’m fine with (I still want to see Nightstar from Kingdom Come become a reality).

Cyborg: I’m ok with this. I see him as the replacement for Steel as the “technology guy”. He’s a veteran and seems out of place with the Titans these days. This is a good home for him.

Atom: Definitely belongs. An former member in good standing and the League’s top scientist.

Dr. Light: Works on the power scale. We already have Starfire. Do we need two female energy manipulators? Never been a big fan of her character though.

Guardian: Hard to know what to think on this one. Not a character I would have picked, so it’s going to come down to how he’s portrayed.

Congarilla: Certainly unusual. Ties to the animal kingdom are good. The writer obviously as affection for him, but would have rather had Animal Man or Vixen in this role. He’ll be the first to go when Robinson leaves the book.

Love Grayson as Batman and on the team! I know it’s a pipe dream but I really wish Bruce would just stay dead and let this next generation lead the charge! I also agree with Caleb that Hal is just plain boring! I still haven’t figured out why they brought him back yet. Except for events like blackest night or Sinestro Corps war he is just plain boring. Even in the events he’s just kind of there and I don’t ever really care about him. i’m a Kyle,Wally,Conner Hawke guy myself and all these old timers coming back has been just a letdown. Other than the”OMG they are bring so and so back for no reason and you NEED to buy this book” aspect it just sucks. DC was a much better universe 10 years ago and there are like 7199 more interesting GL’s than Mr. Hal (I’m a cocky Han Solo wannabee fighter pilot who get’s laid a lot) Jordan. I’m really getting tired with the way DC editorial has been steering the ship lately

“He’s also black.”??? WTF?

One, I’m not really sure what that has to do with Cyborg’s qualifications for the League, and two, I didn’t realize that black heroes had some sort of limited number allowed on the team or some bull@#$% like that.

Blog@ thus continues it’s great tradition of being the most ignorant place around for superhero comics commentary.

Just when you think they’re on the right path, DC find a way to screw it up, again.

This roster is cheesy, to say the least.

The TEEN TITANS graduating to JLA sounds good on paper, but doesn’t quite gel.

MON-EL and DONNA TROY are poor subs for the real things, Freddie SHAZAM and SUPERGIRL would’ve been better choices IMHO.

No Barry? Wally or Bart?…Hmmm…

Not looking forward to it at all.

Could you imagine a JLA with

SUPES, WONDER WOMAN, SHAZAM, SUPERGIRL, MON-EL and DONNA TROY?…

why would you need guys with little to no powers?…

Well, Robinson’s mini, Cry for Justice, has been awful to reas, so I am not looking forward to the story.

As for the lineup, DC is clearly clueless on what the fans want to read. Its like when they mixed up Young Justice and the Titans to make the Teen Titans and Outsiders. Then changed the teams back to Teen Titans and Titans with a more traditional line up.

Donna Troy, Cyborg, and Starfire belong in the Titans.
And what happened to the characters who are still on the team now?

Vixen, Firestorm, Plastic Man?

This is NOT the Justice League, this is Cry for Vengeance with the Titans squashed in. And, as I said, Cry for Justice has been horrible.

For the first time in 30 years I hear myself saying PASS to the Justice League.

The problem I have with half the team being Titans is it takes team slots away from characters who I think belong here. To begin with:

Aquaman
Flash
Black Canary
Zatanna
Plastic Man
Steel
Vixen
Firestorm
Black Lightning

I am actually thrilled with this revelation that these characters will be featured in the new JLA run. I love all of them for their individual reasons, but I hope for what they have been talking about with the rotating cast. If that is true then we will see more characters then these ones on the cover. If that is true then I will love this book because it will feel like a true superhero Justice League book to me. They need to put the right heroes on the right events and having a bigger roster would provide for that.

I feel that allowing there still to be a Titans book with these characters would show that they are primarily attached to the Titans book they are working now with this group as well. People are often part of more then one “organization” in life and schedule around each one for their lives. Why not with superheroes?

To me this makes no sense.I understand that James Robinson wants to do new characters and try and put a spin of chracters that we think are lame or played out.But what happens when in 12 or 13 issues or ever how long his run is gonna be,he leaves and the new writer comes aboard?You get a guy writing characters that the only thing he knows about he read in a Who’s Who.I dont want to sound angry but these character selections are disappointing.

Well, I think this makes sense for the most part… you take 4 JLA-ers (Green Lantern, Green Arrow, Atom, Dr. Light), mix in the 4 most obviously strongest of the Titans (Grayson, Donna, Starfire, Cyborg) who know what it takes to work as part of a larger team, then add in 3 newbies to the mix (Congorilla, Guardian, and Mon-El). Personally, I think it would’ve made FAR better sense to use Conner instead of Mon-El because it would have given the team a youngster who would sorta represent the “heart” of the team, but would still kick ass in a fight i.e. Stargirl in JSA. Plus, it’s already been confirmed that a second team is forming with Wonder Woman leading and Vixen on that team, so I think we will still be seeing Roy, Wally, Black Canary, Plastic Man, and probably Zatanna on that team. I’m sure eventually Superman will show up there too. I think what this is actually setting up is a team in training under Hal, Ollie, Ray, and Dr. Light while the other team is the heavy hitters. It’s sorta like what they did with JSA with a younger team under Magog and Power Girl, with a second team comprised of more established vets. It’d be an interesting team up of two JLA teams with two JSA teams…

… plus wouldn’t it be kinda funny for Donna to meet Starman in a team up when they have pretty much the EXACT SAME DAMN OUTFITS? Maybe that’s when they will change hers to something else.

I usually have no issues with odd team parings but this one will take a leap of faith. I can’t help thinking that this would have worked much better if they had simply changed the creative team on Titans. Crossed out the “Titans” logo on their book and super imposed the JLA logo on the covers. Throw in Mon-El as an extra lead role and I think things would have been awesome and finally right with the established next generation of the JLA. Maybe throw in Freddy Freeman as Captain Marvel (the Shazam thing is asinine. No thank you Winnik.)

That was one of the great things about Kingdom Come. We finally saw the Titans as adults and working as the League. There really seems to be a departure of thought and planning with a lot of the team books in DC these days. Nothing seems to flow naturally anymore. It’s like we’re reading tons of fan-fiction instead of carefully thought out and executed intelligent writing.

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Dandio is a GENIUS. He’s taken characters NO ONE cares about and made them CARE EVEN LESS.

Well done, Danny.

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Your critics are meanless and unfare. It just a big call for attention.

Well the line up sure generated a lot of comment. Pretty sure that’s all any particular JLA line up is supposed to do, so it’s a success. And it will change again in less than a year, so I can’t see why people keep falling for this trick.

“BallsMonkey Says:

“The problem I have with half the team being Titans is it takes team slots away from characters who I think belong here. To begin with”

Well that’s what YOU think.”

Was that nearly necessary, when he in fact says “I think” in his post?

Kinda makes sense for some Titans to be filling in for some senior members, since the Titans did start as the junior JLA. I can see Cyborg staying on but the other Titans and Mon-El moving on next year.

Congorilla seems a bizarre choice. Was it between him and B’wana Beast?

J. Caleb Mozzocco, a quota’s just as bad as not having any diversity at all. For me, it had better be organic and not forced, because the token character gets the short end of the stick if that’s true.

Ummm… harping on Donna Troy for “not having a super-hero identity”? Hello… Jean Grey anyone? Luke Cage? Both are characters who are better known by their real names and are members of iconic teams, yet I don’t see the same criticism. Fair is fair.

But either way, this iteration of the League will give way to 2 teams next year. We’ll probably get more real players (Superman, Batman, Flash) once they’re all back in their own books.

The League should mostly be the stars of the DCU, not the home for secondary characters that don’t support their own books.

Well here’s the problem here:

DC has a huge problem pushing characters. Think about New Avengers for a second: it was mostly newbies (Echo, Luke, Spider Woman, The Sentry). But why did it feel more natural? Because either A.) They had been pushed before the book started (Luke, to an extent Echo).

and B). The Marvel universe is far smaller, thus a lot of the characters seemed familiar with each other already and even had appeared in each other’s titles.

(also it also has to be said that most of the New Avengers were street levels, so that also probably made them feel more natural as a team as well)

But with this team, 3 of them (Star, Donna, and Vic) have received no push. Mon, for the past 20+ years has been a fringe character and is pushing into the mainstream and is filling a role that “feels” wrong (is Mon really a Superman successor?. Guardian has been strictly a Superman supporting character for all of his history (it’s like Harvey Bullock joining the JSA) and Congorilla is just wrong.

And finally, it Dick isn’t leader or co-leader of this team=mega fail. 3 members of this team would follow Dick into hell, not making him a leader would undercut anyone else.

I’m just buying the book so I can see Hal and Starfire getting it on in the shower scene!

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