Sweet thundering Jeebus, those costumes are ugly as sin.

Sean, others . . . yeah, those text boxes are more readable in the book. That image is from DC’s “The Source” Blog; it must be a hard scan, too, because my first attempt looked kinda like that. So, going on the assumption that you can read the boxes . . . Shady and Night Girl are switched.

They aren’t more readable by much, though.

And why credit those captions to Geoff Johns? They’ve been popping up in Legion stories well before he started work on his rollback, at least from the first issue of the Waid/Kitson Legion.

Dark black text in a contrasting lighter colored (yellow, light blue) caption box?
NO!
Not in today’s modern comics.
This Legion page, unfortunately, is the norm any more these days other then a rare occurrence.
Too many “designers” care more about “kewl” fonts on saturated photoshopped color panels. You know, it’s more important that it look designed rather then be readable.

I enjoyed the Encyclopedia entries in the Levitz/Giffen era. Wouldn’t mind more of that.

Was Tellos supposed to be the same creature in the Superboy story and the co-feature? He seemed to bevillian in the lead story?

Matbe Adventure Comics could showcase Busiek’s Krypto story!

Cheers,

B

Not to mention that Invisible Kid isn’t shown at ALL, yet his caption box is. Yeah, I get it, he’s using his power, but still…

I didn’t see Tellus as a villain, just something the kid didn’t recognize. And setting up a nice little subplot at the same time – nice. I’m guessing Conner just got his own Lex.

Troy

In the late Shooter issues, this same method was used: every time a new (to that issue) Legion character popped in, the caption popped up. So, it was not a Johns “new” plot idea. And to be honest, so far, Shooter gave us the most acessible Legion in ages. Johns is actually schmoozing to JSA and Superman readers, which is actually clever of him to build up a new audience.
And I just remember that R.E.B.E.L.S. is doing the caption thing and going even better by reintroducing the Enciclopeadia Galactica.
The editor really made a poor choice of letting those colors on those captions. Colorists know that there is not such thing as contrasting yellow/red colors in terms of readability.

I didn’t pick up Lo3W, and I haven’t picked up Adventure yet, so forgive me if this is a dumb question…

Did any of the Legionnaires switch Legions? Did Lightning Lad switch places with Live Wire as ambassadors with each other’s Legion?

I will only say that Geoff’s LSH work the past two years have made me fall in love with the Legion again. Not that I ever fell out of love, mind you. But I think that he really gets them, even if it’s not the Legion I would prefer. (I wish that the post-Zero Hour team had stuck around, but what can you do?)

I don’t think it made it easier to follow because:

1) Johns is aiming for HIS readers (thus spotlight on Starman), not Legion readers.
2) It was hardly a Legion story so far. It was merely an introduction to something we don’t know.

And I’ll insist that:

1) Shooter was much more reader-friendly (in fact, everything was new in his latest run) and still people forgot to read it.
2) X-Men is way more impenetrable and that doesn’t seem to be a problem. In fact, 5YG sold a lot more than expected and it was a very difficult (and for me much more engaging) read.

For an incarnation that is “the easiest to follow,” I have to say you make it sound very confusing.

Whereas I started on the DnA Legion halfway through their run and never had any trouble understanding the book.

As much as I’m enjoying Geoff’s new Legion stuff,, the character I most want to see featured will always be Kinetix from the post Zero Hour Legion.

J

Those captions were just as unreadable in my copy. Red is a terrible choice to begin with. It is made even worse when the printing looks streaked.

This and the caption switch ruined what could have been a cool splash page.

What about Ferro that showed up in Zero Hour? Didn’t he end up with the prime legion? That confused me.

People who like to be able to read their comics?

I’ve never been a big reader of any Legion but I still find it odd that this Legion is the one getting focus. You’d think the last/threeboot Legion would be the one to be focused on having avaiable trades and being the last mad incarantaion of the Legion.

I just hope that while the Lightning Saga Legion gets focused on the other two do stuff as well since I have favorites in each incarnation.

Could they please utilize the Cockrum/Grell era uniforms? They were far and away the best designs. For the characters added from the Giffen era onward, use the first design of each and move on. The mix and match mode will not work for the readers.

I’m ecstatic that the Legion I grew up with is finally back; I just wish they’d use the costumes Dave Cockrum designed. They were the best.

Could they please utilize the Cockrum/Grell era uniforms? They were far and away the best designs. For the characters added from the Giffen era onward, use the first design of each and move on. The mix and match mode will not work for the readers.

Yes the Iconic Legion is back,why not put them in their most Iconic costumes

For a “Reboot” – shoving a poorly edited piece as a back-up and then “touting” how wonderful this is – feels like a slap in the face to me – I follow the legion in all it incarnation – for better or worse and while I applaud the return to Print- not liking John’s Vision Yet. Legion in JSA was not the same as what he eventually pulled out for Action with Superman. I somewhat liked how he tied all the characters together and the team work used was well written – but not liking Saturn Girls new buzz cut. L3W did not need to reanimate Superboy/Impulse nor restore the Green lanterns while forgetting to follow up on the UP and Brande’s assassination nor pointing out missing members of the espionage squad and never using them. Generally I think John and rest of DC is great at setting up (intro) and starting a great story but they always leave me emotionally flat or disappointed at the resolutions – like they just want to move on to the next “event”.

Will call this version either L5 or L^2 for Legion Lite – not fufilling the intial premises.

PS original Levitz/Giffen legion did have supergirl who died in Crisis and pocket universe Superboy. Clone boy Kon-el was buddies with the Moy/Carani/Stern/Moder Legion/Legionnaires series (post Zero Hour team) Sorry Johns legion is the aftermath of L3W and this is the most confusing intro yet.

I’m…a little up in the air yet about the 80′s era/Levitz/Giffen Legion returning. And I AM a child of the 80′S! LOL

I was one of those people who bought into the Five Year Gap and kinda liked the the intricate stories Giffen was telling. And then liked the DnA Legion as well

But going forward then…I’d love to see them use Andromeda – orange outfit (was that designed by Hughes or Sprouse?, white boots, sassy attitude and all.

I agree with the NEED (PLEASE!) to re-design the outfits. I HATED the Kitson designs so badly. And the “Ultimates” touches…seam lines and rubber ribbing in “strategic” non sensical areas annoys me. Legion has always been a costume parade of really cool outfits.

@Spike

What I said was that this is the Legion that existed until ’89, prior to the ’89 Relaunch/Five Year Gap. That is accurate; Sun Boy and Blok died in THAT series. As seen in Legion of 3 Worlds, the Five Year Gap Legion does indeed exist elsewhere.

As to the question of Superman, yes, Superman is returned to continuity, making it match the first 38 years of the original continuity (which began in 1958 and ran until 1989).

I think the original continuity stopped in 1985, not 1989, because with COIE Supergirl was erased from it. And Supergirl was not a minor character in LSH. ALso, it seems to me that things happened AFTER 1985, like the revenge on the TimeTrapper are not actually aknowledged by the new Geoff-continuity…

I really enjoy this new Legion myself.

And dog Johns out all you want, but apparently he is doing something right given the number of books he writes.

I like the little caption boxes that tell readers who each character is and what their powers are. Its lazy for me as a reader I know, but there are a lot of Legionares and versions of them.

And I was able to read the captions just fine in the copy I bought. I wonder if it just doesn’t scan well… oh well so sad Torrent users.

The only thing that’ll make this a true “old School” version of the Legion is having Mike Grell come back and draw it.

“As for characters I’d like to see,Cockrum’s feral Timber Wolf is my favorite,followed by Cockrum’s Wildfire,And why their at it have them bring back Karate Kid (Val Armorr)in his yellow,white and black costume by Cockrum,as the new Ressurection Man,that way Keith Giffen can kill him as many times as he likes and he keeps coming back.”

At this point, I think Giffen should stay away from anything Legion-related — much like I feel Claremont should stay away from any X-projects.

I do agree Timber Wolf was his best (and most popular) in the 70s feral version. It was kinda idiotic that they somewhat undid that look in the 80s. His current costume — which is an update on the Silver Age costume is horrible.

And why would Wildfire choose a uniform that only accents the fact that he’s no longer human? Yeah, the clear body may be interesting visually — but it goes against the character.

I really wish DC would have just told Gary Frank to use the costumes the Legion was wearing before he got a hold of em. Maybe one or two new designs, but most of the characters really didn’t need a new look.

It’s not a seamless transition of continuity by any means. But in regards to Karate Kid, Johns said he was returned to life after his death early in the first Baxter series run. That was alluded to in L3W with the use of the second Karate Kid Myg. So that explains the Karate Kid/Sensor Girl initial anachronism. I don’t see any problem with “untold” stories of Mon-El. The Supergirl thing though… yeah but it’s not the first time. In the final years of Levitz’ run after crisis, Supergirl’s statue was still seen in the hall of heroes even though she technically didn’t exist in the new continuity.

I’m enough of a Legion fan to know that the White Witch’s sister is Dream Girl, not Projectra (sorry, royiskeen) and I really liked this new story. I think given the less-than-stellar sales that Legion has seen post-Levitz, the backup route may be a good way to reintroduce the characters. The short page count forces Johns et. al. to focus on smaller groups of characters, allowing new readers to be introduced to the team more gradually. That’s got to be a lot less intimidating than stories that dump the whole team on the reader at once.

Of course, I say this, but I started reading the original series with Legion #286, without a gradual introduction. However, I came to the series from a reprint digest that also included a section featuring a bunch of new George Perez-designed costumes for all the characters, which was essentially a roll call for the entire cast. So I had that as an entry point.

I also started reading the book just as it was entering probably the last period that it was a big hit. Since then, its popularity has obviously declined. It needs to win over new readers, and it’s not going to do that with an attitude that says, “Yeah, there’s 25 members on this team; either learn them or get out!”

Long time Legion fan, dating back to S&LSH. For me, ignoring the Baxters & the Five Year Gap run is daft. I coped with the reboot & the threeboot but ignoring these stories just doesn’t sit well with me.

I admit I’ve no read the Adventure Comics back-up yet, but LSH of 3 Worlds didn’t make long for a Johns Legion. Val’s death was one of teh great Legion moments, as was jeckie’s reaction to it. To bring him back makes me feel cheated. Think I’ll give this a wide berth