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	<title>Comments on: Top Cow relaunches Pilot Season competition</title>
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		<title>By: babycarseat</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/07/03/top-cow-relaunches-pilot-season-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-478795</link>
		<dc:creator>babycarseat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good new</description>
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		<title>By: Ron Marz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Marz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because you haven&#039;t heard about it doesn&#039;t mean it didn&#039;t happen. I&#039;m not Matt&#039;s keeper, so if you have something you want to know, you should ask him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because you haven&#8217;t heard about it doesn&#8217;t mean it didn&#8217;t happen. I&#8217;m not Matt&#8217;s keeper, so if you have something you want to know, you should ask him.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Meadow</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/07/03/top-cow-relaunches-pilot-season-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-467313</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Meadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron, I&#039;m still waiting to hear how much money Matt Hawkins has given Hero Initiative during his &quot;I&#039;ll pay $1500 for every late book we have&quot; speech last year.

Cause that&#039;s when Darkness got REALLLL late and all of a sudden we didn&#039;t hear bout him donating any money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron, I&#8217;m still waiting to hear how much money Matt Hawkins has given Hero Initiative during his &#8220;I&#8217;ll pay $1500 for every late book we have&#8221; speech last year.</p>
<p>Cause that&#8217;s when Darkness got REALLLL late and all of a sudden we didn&#8217;t hear bout him donating any money.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Marz</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/07/03/top-cow-relaunches-pilot-season-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-467294</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Marz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian A. and IM, please don&#039;t assume you know the hows and whys of previous Pilot Season projects, just because you&#039;ve heard one person&#039;s version. Sometimes the most professional thing to do is to keep such details private, rather than embarrass anyone involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian A. and IM, please don&#8217;t assume you know the hows and whys of previous Pilot Season projects, just because you&#8217;ve heard one person&#8217;s version. Sometimes the most professional thing to do is to keep such details private, rather than embarrass anyone involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Little Heart Records</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/07/03/top-cow-relaunches-pilot-season-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-467286</link>
		<dc:creator>Little Heart Records</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Pilot Season was launched off of MySpace Comics, and MySpace Comics is closing up shop due to the MySpace Lay-offs... is it safe to assume this fact is at least related to the change in the contests&#039; set up? Only big name talent to drive voters to a place that isn&#039;t a media-based over-blown mess?

If that&#039;s the idea, seriously, I would have let the contest die with MySpace Comics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Pilot Season was launched off of MySpace Comics, and MySpace Comics is closing up shop due to the MySpace Lay-offs&#8230; is it safe to assume this fact is at least related to the change in the contests&#8217; set up? Only big name talent to drive voters to a place that isn&#8217;t a media-based over-blown mess?</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s the idea, seriously, I would have let the contest die with MySpace Comics.</p>
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		<title>By: lM</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/07/03/top-cow-relaunches-pilot-season-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-467277</link>
		<dc:creator>lM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pilot Season is now batting 1 for 4.

To answer the question asked previously; this was not the fault of creators but rather the fault of an asleep-at-the-wheel editorial and publishing team. They went on a blind date, promised to pay for dinner, and then climbed out the bathroom window.

Personally, I find the whole Pilot Season debacle to be disconcerting as Top Cow has finally gotten their act together on their core (Witchblade, Darkness) titles. In my opinion, these two books are currently better reading than they have EVER been. So for Pilot Season to land so poorly... well, it&#039;s a bit of a black eye.

FInally, as a side note, doesn&#039;t it seem, like bad form for Manifesto-spewing Robert Kirkman to take a big stinky dump all over one of the few remaining high-profile outlets for up-and-coming comic book creators? 

I mean, yeah, Pilot Season had RAMPANT problems -- but, at least, these people were getting promoted. And now, Robert &quot;King of Indies as long as those Indies only involve myself and nobody else because I&#039;m a dooshy Manifesto making jackass&quot; Kirkman wants ALL the Pilot Season books?

Bad form.

Honestly, it would&#039;ve been better just to cancel Pilot Season and call this event something else. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pilot Season is now batting 1 for 4.</p>
<p>To answer the question asked previously; this was not the fault of creators but rather the fault of an asleep-at-the-wheel editorial and publishing team. They went on a blind date, promised to pay for dinner, and then climbed out the bathroom window.</p>
<p>Personally, I find the whole Pilot Season debacle to be disconcerting as Top Cow has finally gotten their act together on their core (Witchblade, Darkness) titles. In my opinion, these two books are currently better reading than they have EVER been. So for Pilot Season to land so poorly&#8230; well, it&#8217;s a bit of a black eye.</p>
<p>FInally, as a side note, doesn&#8217;t it seem, like bad form for Manifesto-spewing Robert Kirkman to take a big stinky dump all over one of the few remaining high-profile outlets for up-and-coming comic book creators? </p>
<p>I mean, yeah, Pilot Season had RAMPANT problems &#8212; but, at least, these people were getting promoted. And now, Robert &#8220;King of Indies as long as those Indies only involve myself and nobody else because I&#8217;m a dooshy Manifesto making jackass&#8221; Kirkman wants ALL the Pilot Season books?</p>
<p>Bad form.</p>
<p>Honestly, it would&#8217;ve been better just to cancel Pilot Season and call this event something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Huxford</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/07/03/top-cow-relaunches-pilot-season-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-467265</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Huxford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really think this just misses the point of what was exciting about Pilot Season before. It&#039;s as if this is SO YOU THINK YOU CAN DANCE with Robert Kirkman &amp; Silvestri dancing together 5 times in the show; gee, will Kirkman and Silvestri win or get voted off, eh?

The way that they appear to have abandoned previous winners doesn&#039;t help, either. A book with Casey and Cross? I would have bought that in a second. Something new by Kirkman and Silvestri that they&#039;ll have work-for-hire folks takeover when it wins? Yeah...no thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really think this just misses the point of what was exciting about Pilot Season before. It&#8217;s as if this is SO YOU THINK YOU CAN DANCE with Robert Kirkman &amp; Silvestri dancing together 5 times in the show; gee, will Kirkman and Silvestri win or get voted off, eh?</p>
<p>The way that they appear to have abandoned previous winners doesn&#8217;t help, either. A book with Casey and Cross? I would have bought that in a second. Something new by Kirkman and Silvestri that they&#8217;ll have work-for-hire folks takeover when it wins? Yeah&#8230;no thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Hustle</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/07/03/top-cow-relaunches-pilot-season-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-467258</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie Hustle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is genius just not going to come out?</description>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/07/03/top-cow-relaunches-pilot-season-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-467254</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it will be interesting to see what Robert Kirkman comes up with. I am a huge fan of Invincible and Walking Dead but not a fan of his Marvel work. I think since he excels at superheros, hopefully these titles are not forced. I would really also like to see a Velocity miniseries, I&#039;d even buy the Criss Cross issue that never got published.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it will be interesting to see what Robert Kirkman comes up with. I am a huge fan of Invincible and Walking Dead but not a fan of his Marvel work. I think since he excels at superheros, hopefully these titles are not forced. I would really also like to see a Velocity miniseries, I&#8217;d even buy the Criss Cross issue that never got published.</p>
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		<title>By: Marquisd</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/07/03/top-cow-relaunches-pilot-season-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-467243</link>
		<dc:creator>Marquisd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened to Genuis btw?</description>
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		<title>By: Ian A.</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/07/03/top-cow-relaunches-pilot-season-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-467241</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In an interview with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&amp;id=20318&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Comic Book Resources&lt;/a&gt;, Joe Casey revealed what went on behind the scenes, regarding &lt;em&gt;Velocity&lt;/em&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Cross and I have been trying to – and dying to – work together for years. Y’know, we were primed to do a “Velocity” series for Top Cow and although I wrote and got paid for three issues and Cross penciled a first issue that was so visually stunning and the best-looking thing Top Cow would’ve published this year, somewhere along the line that famous Top Cow brand of common sense disappeared into an unexpectedly bizarre rift in time and space, they started firing staff left and right – including our beloved editor – and our book was suddenly no more, resulting in an obviously broken promise to four million Pilot Season voters. Ouch.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an interview with <a href="http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&amp;id=20318" rel="nofollow">Comic Book Resources</a>, Joe Casey revealed what went on behind the scenes, regarding <em>Velocity</em>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Cross and I have been trying to – and dying to – work together for years. Y’know, we were primed to do a “Velocity” series for Top Cow and although I wrote and got paid for three issues and Cross penciled a first issue that was so visually stunning and the best-looking thing Top Cow would’ve published this year, somewhere along the line that famous Top Cow brand of common sense disappeared into an unexpectedly bizarre rift in time and space, they started firing staff left and right – including our beloved editor – and our book was suddenly no more, resulting in an obviously broken promise to four million Pilot Season voters. Ouch.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: focusgents</title>
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		<dc:creator>focusgents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, whatever happened to the winning pilot, Genius?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, whatever happened to the winning pilot, Genius?</p>
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		<title>By: Khash</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/07/03/top-cow-relaunches-pilot-season-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-467233</link>
		<dc:creator>Khash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to be &quot;that guy&quot; but it&#039;s Astounding Wolf-Man.  Not Astonishing.  Yea, I make that mistake often as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to be &#8220;that guy&#8221; but it&#8217;s Astounding Wolf-Man.  Not Astonishing.  Yea, I make that mistake often as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Seraphex</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/07/03/top-cow-relaunches-pilot-season-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-467231</link>
		<dc:creator>Seraphex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm...

There are a few options that I&#039;d hazard a guess on as to why Pilot Season went off the rails previously that may have prompted using only professionals this time around:

A. Most likely, the &quot;rookies and indie talent&quot; couldn&#039;t get their s**t together enough to get a few issues in the can.  I would imagine Top Cow would want the first 4 issues completed before soliciting the first issue.

B. With the change in Diamond benchmarks coupled with a lack of &quot;big name creators,&quot; there wasn&#039;t enough demand from &quot;fans&quot; to get the issues distributed.  That and the hype machine just kind of stopped once the contest was over.
Outta sight = outta mind = no pre-order sales...

C. Maybe it was all just a stunt by Top Cow to drive attention to the company name and acquire some intellectual properties.  Probably worked, too...

Someone in the know confirm or deny.  We&#039;re curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;</p>
<p>There are a few options that I&#8217;d hazard a guess on as to why Pilot Season went off the rails previously that may have prompted using only professionals this time around:</p>
<p>A. Most likely, the &#8220;rookies and indie talent&#8221; couldn&#8217;t get their s**t together enough to get a few issues in the can.  I would imagine Top Cow would want the first 4 issues completed before soliciting the first issue.</p>
<p>B. With the change in Diamond benchmarks coupled with a lack of &#8220;big name creators,&#8221; there wasn&#8217;t enough demand from &#8220;fans&#8221; to get the issues distributed.  That and the hype machine just kind of stopped once the contest was over.<br />
Outta sight = outta mind = no pre-order sales&#8230;</p>
<p>C. Maybe it was all just a stunt by Top Cow to drive attention to the company name and acquire some intellectual properties.  Probably worked, too&#8230;</p>
<p>Someone in the know confirm or deny.  We&#8217;re curious.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t say I like this idea. Nothing wrong about the team, just that I prefer Pilot Season to be different books by different creators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t say I like this idea. Nothing wrong about the team, just that I prefer Pilot Season to be different books by different creators.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Skaggs</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/07/03/top-cow-relaunches-pilot-season-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-467226</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Skaggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does seem pretty ridiculous to be pushing Pilot Season 3 when VELOCITY is creative limbo after two years and TWILIGHT GUARDIAN #1 hasn&#039;t been solicited.  Perhaps Top Cow should concentrate their efforts on getting these series launched before starting a Season 3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does seem pretty ridiculous to be pushing Pilot Season 3 when VELOCITY is creative limbo after two years and TWILIGHT GUARDIAN #1 hasn&#8217;t been solicited.  Perhaps Top Cow should concentrate their efforts on getting these series launched before starting a Season 3.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was disheartened by Season 2, when The Core and Urban Myths didn&#039;t win. I thought those would have been worth publishing. Twilight Guardian and Genius seemed like much less interesting concepts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was disheartened by Season 2, when The Core and Urban Myths didn&#8217;t win. I thought those would have been worth publishing. Twilight Guardian and Genius seemed like much less interesting concepts.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Meadow</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/07/03/top-cow-relaunches-pilot-season-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-467220</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Meadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still watch that piece going &quot;I wish Blair Bulter did some real checking on the status of the winners before she said anything.&quot;

Even though it states the winners get an ongoing the reality is they only get a 4 issue mini with the HOPES that sales are enough to turn it into an ongoing.

Cyblade only got 4 issues (where they coudln&#039;t afford Rick Mays). Velocity got cancelled before the first issue ever came out.

And here they are promoting Round 3 and neither of the winners of Round 2 have had their books come out yet. And its already been almost a year.

They&#039;re somewhere stuck in the void of postponment I guess that also sucked up Black Vault since B. Clay Moore was told by Top Cow that book wasn&#039;t coming out either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still watch that piece going &#8220;I wish Blair Bulter did some real checking on the status of the winners before she said anything.&#8221;</p>
<p>Even though it states the winners get an ongoing the reality is they only get a 4 issue mini with the HOPES that sales are enough to turn it into an ongoing.</p>
<p>Cyblade only got 4 issues (where they coudln&#8217;t afford Rick Mays). Velocity got cancelled before the first issue ever came out.</p>
<p>And here they are promoting Round 3 and neither of the winners of Round 2 have had their books come out yet. And its already been almost a year.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re somewhere stuck in the void of postponment I guess that also sucked up Black Vault since B. Clay Moore was told by Top Cow that book wasn&#8217;t coming out either.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 05:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh wow, Silvestri and Kirkman?  What a dream team, now all of these series are completely guaranteed to suck.</description>
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		<title>By: Kelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With Myspace Comics shutting down, I was wondering what might happen with Pilot Season. Good to know it&#039;ll still be around.

Now if they could just figure out a way to get that Velocity series going...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Myspace Comics shutting down, I was wondering what might happen with Pilot Season. Good to know it&#8217;ll still be around.</p>
<p>Now if they could just figure out a way to get that Velocity series going&#8230;</p>
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