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	<title>Comments on: Marvel shows Firestar design for Marvel Divas</title>
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		<title>By: W.Susan</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/05/14/marvel-shows-firestar-design-at-marvel-divas/comment-page-1/#comment-464286</link>
		<dc:creator>W.Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 06:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what I&#039;d love to read? A cross over even in marvel where the skrulls fire a breast cancer ray on earth.

Every one of these over-titted hookers have to get mastectomies.

On the one hand, Raises awareness of breast cancer, on the other hand, no more jizz fodder for the pigs. I dont have to feel like castrating evey fanboi in the comic shop when I see the racks (pun sort of intended) female chars will have to be more than empty sex objects, those that cant can be easilly wiped off the pages by the cancer ... Im looking at you &#039;shulkie&#039;)

How perfect would that be?

Ofcouse it&#039;ll never happen, the scum wont let it, but its a nice thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what I&#8217;d love to read? A cross over even in marvel where the skrulls fire a breast cancer ray on earth.</p>
<p>Every one of these over-titted hookers have to get mastectomies.</p>
<p>On the one hand, Raises awareness of breast cancer, on the other hand, no more jizz fodder for the pigs. I dont have to feel like castrating evey fanboi in the comic shop when I see the racks (pun sort of intended) female chars will have to be more than empty sex objects, those that cant can be easilly wiped off the pages by the cancer &#8230; Im looking at you &#8216;shulkie&#8217;)</p>
<p>How perfect would that be?</p>
<p>Ofcouse it&#8217;ll never happen, the scum wont let it, but its a nice thought.</p>
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		<title>By: thekamisama</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/05/14/marvel-shows-firestar-design-at-marvel-divas/comment-page-1/#comment-464214</link>
		<dc:creator>thekamisama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 18:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, I might actually give this book a chance now. I&#039;ll rip off the cover and give it to some lonesome looking slob at my local comic shop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, I might actually give this book a chance now. I&#8217;ll rip off the cover and give it to some lonesome looking slob at my local comic shop.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/05/14/marvel-shows-firestar-design-at-marvel-divas/comment-page-1/#comment-464092</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 01:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks absolutely awful, and I don&#039;t think anyone will actually buy this.  So i would just give it a rest and let this book fade out like all the other unmemorable crap that has come out before.  Don&#039;t buy it and don&#039;t talk about it if your not interested.  Let people buy dumb comics because i don&#039;t want everyone to be into the good ones.  If they start buying good stuff then i probably won&#039;t find an issue of Scalped i was a week or two late on buying.  In other words your wasting your breathe talking about this. Actually I kind of take that back everyone should read scalped, and vertigo should print millions and millions of copies so everyone can read it.  Did i mention i&#039;m pissed about Young Liars being canceled.  If you haven&#039;t noticed i&#039;m an comic book reader with ADD and i can&#039;t focus on the subject i&#039;m talking about.  How in the world do i make good grades in college?  Summer Whoooo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks absolutely awful, and I don&#8217;t think anyone will actually buy this.  So i would just give it a rest and let this book fade out like all the other unmemorable crap that has come out before.  Don&#8217;t buy it and don&#8217;t talk about it if your not interested.  Let people buy dumb comics because i don&#8217;t want everyone to be into the good ones.  If they start buying good stuff then i probably won&#8217;t find an issue of Scalped i was a week or two late on buying.  In other words your wasting your breathe talking about this. Actually I kind of take that back everyone should read scalped, and vertigo should print millions and millions of copies so everyone can read it.  Did i mention i&#8217;m pissed about Young Liars being canceled.  If you haven&#8217;t noticed i&#8217;m an comic book reader with ADD and i can&#8217;t focus on the subject i&#8217;m talking about.  How in the world do i make good grades in college?  Summer Whoooo!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul O'Brien</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/05/14/marvel-shows-firestar-design-at-marvel-divas/comment-page-1/#comment-464065</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 09:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If I wanted a soap opera, I’d watch daytime TV.&quot;

But you could make that argument about virtually ANY genre other than superheroes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If I wanted a soap opera, I’d watch daytime TV.&#8221;</p>
<p>But you could make that argument about virtually ANY genre other than superheroes.</p>
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		<title>By: O.</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/05/14/marvel-shows-firestar-design-at-marvel-divas/comment-page-1/#comment-464062</link>
		<dc:creator>O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 05:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is getting ridiculous.  Women love Sex and the City, so why not make a superhero book mixing those ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is getting ridiculous.  Women love Sex and the City, so why not make a superhero book mixing those ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/05/14/marvel-shows-firestar-design-at-marvel-divas/comment-page-1/#comment-464061</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 03:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the main things that annoys me about this while situation is that for those of us who want to support Marvel books that feature interesting, three-dimensional female characters this is a no-win situation.

If we buy the book then they will think that their cheesecake, sexy advertising of the book works and that this is the proper way to market these books. If we don&#039;t buy the book they will assume that nobody wants to buy a book featuring interesting, three-dimensional characters. It&#039;s frustrating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the main things that annoys me about this while situation is that for those of us who want to support Marvel books that feature interesting, three-dimensional female characters this is a no-win situation.</p>
<p>If we buy the book then they will think that their cheesecake, sexy advertising of the book works and that this is the proper way to market these books. If we don&#8217;t buy the book they will assume that nobody wants to buy a book featuring interesting, three-dimensional characters. It&#8217;s frustrating.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Jaffe</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/05/14/marvel-shows-firestar-design-at-marvel-divas/comment-page-1/#comment-464055</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Jaffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 22:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My annoyance wasn&#039;t with the cover but with the way the books were being marketed. As if the only stories women are interested in reading are &quot;sex and the city&quot; stories. I don&#039;t have a problem with women-oriented books still having sexy characters in them, but I do get annoyed when books with female leads are treated as if they have to appeal to a whole other species. Women comics readers like the same things male comics readers like--a good story, believable, interesting, compelling characters, and sometimes eye candy. We&#039;d--or at least, I&#039;d--just like to see more female characters that have more dimensions. 

If I wanted a soap opera, I&#039;d watch daytime TV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My annoyance wasn&#8217;t with the cover but with the way the books were being marketed. As if the only stories women are interested in reading are &#8220;sex and the city&#8221; stories. I don&#8217;t have a problem with women-oriented books still having sexy characters in them, but I do get annoyed when books with female leads are treated as if they have to appeal to a whole other species. Women comics readers like the same things male comics readers like&#8211;a good story, believable, interesting, compelling characters, and sometimes eye candy. We&#8217;d&#8211;or at least, I&#8217;d&#8211;just like to see more female characters that have more dimensions. </p>
<p>If I wanted a soap opera, I&#8217;d watch daytime TV.</p>
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		<title>By: Eden</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/05/14/marvel-shows-firestar-design-at-marvel-divas/comment-page-1/#comment-464052</link>
		<dc:creator>Eden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 21:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was initially interested in the title, despite the bad cover/promo, because of Aguirre-Sacasa and Zonjic&#039;s artwork just in general made me think there was going to be something to this title.

But I do think Marvel screwed this up -- they should&#039;ve made art like this public sooner. And I think that&#039;s pretty unfortunate, because I think this title could be great. I don&#039;t think the people who would love it the most -- women -- will be inclined to pick it up at this point.

I agree with the whole Pride &amp; Prejudice thing, too. It&#039;s like Marvel gets &lt;i&gt;so close&lt;/i&gt; to making comics that women will love, and not just in a &quot;we think women will love this because our marketers told us so&quot; but in a genuine way. But they always do something to screw it up terribly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was initially interested in the title, despite the bad cover/promo, because of Aguirre-Sacasa and Zonjic&#8217;s artwork just in general made me think there was going to be something to this title.</p>
<p>But I do think Marvel screwed this up &#8212; they should&#8217;ve made art like this public sooner. And I think that&#8217;s pretty unfortunate, because I think this title could be great. I don&#8217;t think the people who would love it the most &#8212; women &#8212; will be inclined to pick it up at this point.</p>
<p>I agree with the whole Pride &amp; Prejudice thing, too. It&#8217;s like Marvel gets <i>so close</i> to making comics that women will love, and not just in a &#8220;we think women will love this because our marketers told us so&#8221; but in a genuine way. But they always do something to screw it up terribly.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah Allan</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/05/14/marvel-shows-firestar-design-at-marvel-divas/comment-page-1/#comment-464050</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremiah Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 20:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ SageShini

1.) People in the comics community who would &quot;have no interest&quot; because there was no cheesecake and the creators not treating these characters with reverence and maturity is indicative of a disturbing problem in the industry as a whole. 

Don&#039;t you think it&#039;s a little messed up that Marvel can&#039;t have a book with a female cast without marketing them this way? They&#039;re not even in an action pose, or knocking someone&#039;s teeth in. They&#039;re not being portrayed as strong; they&#039;re shown as sex objects. Period. 

And it&#039;s no wonder you can&#039;t see it because the rest of the comic book industry apparently doesn&#039;t see it, either.

2.) A cover with a bunch of dudes with bulging muscles IS different than this, no matter how much you try to satirize that fact with your &quot;but, but.&quot; 

It goes back to comics being an adolescent male power fantasy and being unable to break out of that stereotype. Of course there are musclebound guys on the cover of comics because every little boy (or grown man, whether consciously or not) wants to be that big, powerful hero. 

It&#039;s not sexualized like the &quot;Divas&quot; cover, who only exist in this pin-up pose because Marvel doesn&#039;t know how to sell their female characters as anything but whores (apparently), just waiting for some nerd fantasy to come along and undress them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ SageShini</p>
<p>1.) People in the comics community who would &#8220;have no interest&#8221; because there was no cheesecake and the creators not treating these characters with reverence and maturity is indicative of a disturbing problem in the industry as a whole. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you think it&#8217;s a little messed up that Marvel can&#8217;t have a book with a female cast without marketing them this way? They&#8217;re not even in an action pose, or knocking someone&#8217;s teeth in. They&#8217;re not being portrayed as strong; they&#8217;re shown as sex objects. Period. </p>
<p>And it&#8217;s no wonder you can&#8217;t see it because the rest of the comic book industry apparently doesn&#8217;t see it, either.</p>
<p>2.) A cover with a bunch of dudes with bulging muscles IS different than this, no matter how much you try to satirize that fact with your &#8220;but, but.&#8221; </p>
<p>It goes back to comics being an adolescent male power fantasy and being unable to break out of that stereotype. Of course there are musclebound guys on the cover of comics because every little boy (or grown man, whether consciously or not) wants to be that big, powerful hero. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not sexualized like the &#8220;Divas&#8221; cover, who only exist in this pin-up pose because Marvel doesn&#8217;t know how to sell their female characters as anything but whores (apparently), just waiting for some nerd fantasy to come along and undress them.</p>
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		<title>By: Terence</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/05/14/marvel-shows-firestar-design-at-marvel-divas/comment-page-1/#comment-464048</link>
		<dc:creator>Terence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 20:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What’s funny is that the first link on the page has Joe explaining why he did what he did. ‘Cause otherwise, the book wouldn’t come out at all, ’cause people would see the cover everyone else thinks is “proper”, have no interest, and preorder #s would come back probably at like, 4-5k.&quot;

Which means Marvel have no confdence in the actual concept, and why comic books fans have such a bad rep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What’s funny is that the first link on the page has Joe explaining why he did what he did. ‘Cause otherwise, the book wouldn’t come out at all, ’cause people would see the cover everyone else thinks is “proper”, have no interest, and preorder #s would come back probably at like, 4-5k.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which means Marvel have no confdence in the actual concept, and why comic books fans have such a bad rep.</p>
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		<title>By: Terence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 20:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;which I think is a reference to it being “soap opera-esque” not to it having naked girls lathering themselves up in soap suds.&quot;

Oh, I got the &#039;pun&#039;, but don&#039;t believe for a moment Marvel weren&#039;t playing on the other, more suggestive, meaning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;which I think is a reference to it being “soap opera-esque” not to it having naked girls lathering themselves up in soap suds.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, I got the &#8216;pun&#8217;, but don&#8217;t believe for a moment Marvel weren&#8217;t playing on the other, more suggestive, meaning.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhuw Morgan</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/05/14/marvel-shows-firestar-design-at-marvel-divas/comment-page-1/#comment-464046</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhuw Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 20:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has no one read the text at the bottom:

&quot;She can feel and discover the lump then, for the most obvious example.&quot; I really really really hope that Anjelica Jones isn&#039;t getting dusted off to get Cancer from her radiation powers, although I suppose Samantha got breast cancer in Sex and the City.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has no one read the text at the bottom:</p>
<p>&#8220;She can feel and discover the lump then, for the most obvious example.&#8221; I really really really hope that Anjelica Jones isn&#8217;t getting dusted off to get Cancer from her radiation powers, although I suppose Samantha got breast cancer in Sex and the City.</p>
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		<title>By: Horace</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/05/14/marvel-shows-firestar-design-at-marvel-divas/comment-page-1/#comment-464045</link>
		<dc:creator>Horace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 20:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, I&#039;m the opposite. Seeing Aguirre-Sacasa&#039;s name on the project killed any potential interest from me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, I&#8217;m the opposite. Seeing Aguirre-Sacasa&#8217;s name on the project killed any potential interest from me.</p>
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		<title>By: SageShini</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/05/14/marvel-shows-firestar-design-at-marvel-divas/comment-page-1/#comment-464043</link>
		<dc:creator>SageShini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The cheesecake preview is indefensible. &quot;

What&#039;s funny is that the first link on the page has Joe explaining why he did what he did.   &#039;Cause otherwise, the book wouldn&#039;t come out at all, &#039;cause people would see the cover everyone else thinks is &quot;proper&quot;, have no interest, and preorder #s would come back probably at like, 4-5k.   :P   

Plus, I&#039;m sorry, but having glanced at the cover, I&#039;m not seeing the cheesecake-ness.  Well, I DO, but compared to all the covers of guys with bulging muscles in skintight outfits displayed prominently on cover after cover after cover...its really about the same, all around.  

*cue people coming in telling me how &quot;But but, that&#039;s different!&quot;*    -_-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The cheesecake preview is indefensible. &#8221;</p>
<p>What&#8217;s funny is that the first link on the page has Joe explaining why he did what he did.   &#8216;Cause otherwise, the book wouldn&#8217;t come out at all, &#8217;cause people would see the cover everyone else thinks is &#8220;proper&#8221;, have no interest, and preorder #s would come back probably at like, 4-5k.   <img src='http://blog.newsarama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />    </p>
<p>Plus, I&#8217;m sorry, but having glanced at the cover, I&#8217;m not seeing the cheesecake-ness.  Well, I DO, but compared to all the covers of guys with bulging muscles in skintight outfits displayed prominently on cover after cover after cover&#8230;its really about the same, all around.  </p>
<p>*cue people coming in telling me how &#8220;But but, that&#8217;s different!&#8221;*    -_-</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah Allan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, hey, when you guys write blogs like this, a little inter-community acknowledgment would be nice. 

There&#039;s already a topic about this in the forums with dozens of posts and it seems weird that one part of Newsarama isn&#039;t aware of another. Another reason why these blogs and front page articles need to have links to the forum instead of individual comments sections.

Here&#039;s the thread:

http://www.newsarama.com/common/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=7503</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, hey, when you guys write blogs like this, a little inter-community acknowledgment would be nice. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s already a topic about this in the forums with dozens of posts and it seems weird that one part of Newsarama isn&#8217;t aware of another. Another reason why these blogs and front page articles need to have links to the forum instead of individual comments sections.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thread:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newsarama.com/common/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&#038;t=7503" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsarama.com/common/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&#038;t=7503</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer dG</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer dG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is really cute art! I, like Jeremiah, don&#039;t know why they would put that cover on a book if the interior art is like this. Why does Marvel do that? It&#039;s like Pride and Prejudice -- cute cover art by Sonny Liew only to find that the interior art depicts the Bennet sisters as early-21st-century strippers.

I liked the covers of Runaways. They were really pretty, attracted my attention, and the tone and style of the interiors matched them. If the cover of Divas matched this style of interior art, I might have thought it was at least interesting. Now I&#039;m just confused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is really cute art! I, like Jeremiah, don&#8217;t know why they would put that cover on a book if the interior art is like this. Why does Marvel do that? It&#8217;s like Pride and Prejudice &#8212; cute cover art by Sonny Liew only to find that the interior art depicts the Bennet sisters as early-21st-century strippers.</p>
<p>I liked the covers of Runaways. They were really pretty, attracted my attention, and the tone and style of the interiors matched them. If the cover of Divas matched this style of interior art, I might have thought it was at least interesting. Now I&#8217;m just confused.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah Allan</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/05/14/marvel-shows-firestar-design-at-marvel-divas/comment-page-1/#comment-464038</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremiah Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t want people to judge your book by it&#039;s cover, don&#039;t release a cheesecake cover... It&#039;s pretty simple, really. 

And the people who are defending the move and saying that the people who dislike the marketing because it&#039;s sexist (whatever the inside contents may be) are overreacting are only part of a much bigger problem--that they don&#039;t even realize, apparently.

The cheesecake preview is indefensible. 

It was a bonehead move.

Short term, it might have made sense for a company wanting to sell books but there&#039;s only so much you can sell to the same audience and I wonder how seriously Marvel&#039;s marketing people (or editors for green-lighting that cover) even take the long term or entertainment ethics (that could also serve to grow the fan base).

By releasing that cover, all Marvel did was perpetuate stereotypes that keep industry mentality incestuous, closed and inaccessible to new demographics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t want people to judge your book by it&#8217;s cover, don&#8217;t release a cheesecake cover&#8230; It&#8217;s pretty simple, really. </p>
<p>And the people who are defending the move and saying that the people who dislike the marketing because it&#8217;s sexist (whatever the inside contents may be) are overreacting are only part of a much bigger problem&#8211;that they don&#8217;t even realize, apparently.</p>
<p>The cheesecake preview is indefensible. </p>
<p>It was a bonehead move.</p>
<p>Short term, it might have made sense for a company wanting to sell books but there&#8217;s only so much you can sell to the same audience and I wonder how seriously Marvel&#8217;s marketing people (or editors for green-lighting that cover) even take the long term or entertainment ethics (that could also serve to grow the fan base).</p>
<p>By releasing that cover, all Marvel did was perpetuate stereotypes that keep industry mentality incestuous, closed and inaccessible to new demographics.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Ampersand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Ampersand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still looking forward to this. Aguirre-Sacasa is one of my favorite writers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still looking forward to this. Aguirre-Sacasa is one of my favorite writers.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/05/14/marvel-shows-firestar-design-at-marvel-divas/comment-page-1/#comment-464035</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 17:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One word that keeps being thrown around is &quot;sudsy&quot; which I think is a reference to it being &quot;soap opera-esque&quot; not to it having naked girls lathering themselves up in soap suds. Which was a mistake on Marvel&#039;s part, but I don&#039;t get why I&#039;m the only one that gets the pun. SOAP opera... SUDS. Yeah, and the Campbell cover doesn&#039;t help that people took it literally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One word that keeps being thrown around is &#8220;sudsy&#8221; which I think is a reference to it being &#8220;soap opera-esque&#8221; not to it having naked girls lathering themselves up in soap suds. Which was a mistake on Marvel&#8217;s part, but I don&#8217;t get why I&#8217;m the only one that gets the pun. SOAP opera&#8230; SUDS. Yeah, and the Campbell cover doesn&#8217;t help that people took it literally.</p>
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		<title>By: Terence</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/05/14/marvel-shows-firestar-design-at-marvel-divas/comment-page-1/#comment-464032</link>
		<dc:creator>Terence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 17:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cover obvously had a lot to do with the preconceptions, but I&#039;d say the accomapanying description went a long way to confirming those suspicions.

Marvel have a long way to go in marketing their books to the demographic they are trying to attract; this is neither fish nor fowl - those who might actually be interested in the book, for the content as it is portrayed now, have already been turned off, and those who are looking for big tits, no waist, &#039;sudsy&#039; fun are going to have a shock when they crack open that wank fodder cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cover obvously had a lot to do with the preconceptions, but I&#8217;d say the accomapanying description went a long way to confirming those suspicions.</p>
<p>Marvel have a long way to go in marketing their books to the demographic they are trying to attract; this is neither fish nor fowl &#8211; those who might actually be interested in the book, for the content as it is portrayed now, have already been turned off, and those who are looking for big tits, no waist, &#8216;sudsy&#8217; fun are going to have a shock when they crack open that wank fodder cover.</p>
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