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	<title>Comments on: X-Men Origins Wolverine: A review of sorts.</title>
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		<title>By: The Father Of Lies</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Father Of Lies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 10:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh boy did my giant ballon of hope get deflated quickly! Ok, there are certain things I am willing to forgive. Some of the way off story lines, fine. For the sake of a move to the public, and not just the marvel fans, I can understand that. But FOX is doing a MARVEL movie, and its just silly to add off the wall things for no reason. Why in the hell did wolverine have bone claws??! I cant get over that. Also, the whole thing was this crazy run through action fest. There wasnt even time to deliver a good acting performance. Think back to X-men one (or x-men 2, or iron man, or spider man) and look at the comparion. I think it is possible to have a good, well acted, well exacuted movie, and still have awesome action scenes. Marvel already wrote a great story, that made sense, and would make movie sense with just small changes. If marvels continues to let this happen, their movie characters will become a joke, and people will further latch on to the other, non marvel, and well done films about super heroes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh boy did my giant ballon of hope get deflated quickly! Ok, there are certain things I am willing to forgive. Some of the way off story lines, fine. For the sake of a move to the public, and not just the marvel fans, I can understand that. But FOX is doing a MARVEL movie, and its just silly to add off the wall things for no reason. Why in the hell did wolverine have bone claws??! I cant get over that. Also, the whole thing was this crazy run through action fest. There wasnt even time to deliver a good acting performance. Think back to X-men one (or x-men 2, or iron man, or spider man) and look at the comparion. I think it is possible to have a good, well acted, well exacuted movie, and still have awesome action scenes. Marvel already wrote a great story, that made sense, and would make movie sense with just small changes. If marvels continues to let this happen, their movie characters will become a joke, and people will further latch on to the other, non marvel, and well done films about super heroes.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 21:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But wouldn&#039;t they have noticed in the first X-Men movie that he had a couple holes in his skull?</description>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 20:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With this movie, I think that they&#039;ve really exhausted the usefulness of the whole &quot;drop in cameos of a variety of x-characters by just giving the name to a character who resembles the one in the comics almost not at all* or hinting at the powers of a familiar character&quot; strategy. Either adapt the character a bit more closely (it doesn&#039;t have to be slavishly devoted to comics canon, or hog up time from the main character, just... a little bit more effort, not so seemingly arbitrary with the assignment of names to characters with completely different powers and personalities) or come up with totally new characters.

*Like Callisto in X3, and the evident total lack of upper-class bitchiness on Emma Frost&#039;s part in this film. There are several others in the last couple of movies like this.

Oh, I almost forgot: as a longtime Gambit hater I just have to mention that you can&#039;t ruin something that already sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With this movie, I think that they&#8217;ve really exhausted the usefulness of the whole &#8220;drop in cameos of a variety of x-characters by just giving the name to a character who resembles the one in the comics almost not at all* or hinting at the powers of a familiar character&#8221; strategy. Either adapt the character a bit more closely (it doesn&#8217;t have to be slavishly devoted to comics canon, or hog up time from the main character, just&#8230; a little bit more effort, not so seemingly arbitrary with the assignment of names to characters with completely different powers and personalities) or come up with totally new characters.</p>
<p>*Like Callisto in X3, and the evident total lack of upper-class bitchiness on Emma Frost&#8217;s part in this film. There are several others in the last couple of movies like this.</p>
<p>Oh, I almost forgot: as a longtime Gambit hater I just have to mention that you can&#8217;t ruin something that already sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: rolando</title>
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		<dc:creator>rolando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 18:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember that Marvel turned the rights to the X-Universe to FOX.  Iron Man was spectacular because Marvel creative had its fingers in the pie...  The movie (Iron Man) reflected a clear creative vision and respect for the source material.  With X-Men (specifically X3 and Wolverine), FOX was free to do as it wished, and it was obvious they were going for the &quot;throw 1000 ideas against the wall and see what sticks.&quot;  Which is why we&#039;ll get a Wolverine sequel, a Deadpool movie, more than likely a Gambit movie, etc, etc, etc.

As far as the &quot;magic&quot; adamantium bullet?  I guess it works this way:  A regular bullet will just flatten or disintegrate against an adamantium skull (which is what happened in X2).  The bullet dissipates it&#039;s velocity not against the skull, but against itself, which is why it pancaked.  But remember that scene in X2...  Wolverine was knocked out for a minute or so as the healing factor kicked in.  A regular bullet rattled his brain enough to knock him out.  Adamantium bullets likewise cannot penetrate adamantium skulls, but its velocity has no where to go.  The force of the bullet cannot be dissipated against anything except the skull and itself equally, which means Wolverine&#039;s brain didn&#039;t just get rattled.  Wolverine&#039;s brain had a seismic event.  Wolverine&#039;s brain got hit by &quot;the big one.&quot;  As the brain healed it created new gray matter to replace the damage.  Hence the memory loss.  They&#039;re in there somewhere (and Professor X helped pull them out in X2), but it&#039;s damaged or buried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember that Marvel turned the rights to the X-Universe to FOX.  Iron Man was spectacular because Marvel creative had its fingers in the pie&#8230;  The movie (Iron Man) reflected a clear creative vision and respect for the source material.  With X-Men (specifically X3 and Wolverine), FOX was free to do as it wished, and it was obvious they were going for the &#8220;throw 1000 ideas against the wall and see what sticks.&#8221;  Which is why we&#8217;ll get a Wolverine sequel, a Deadpool movie, more than likely a Gambit movie, etc, etc, etc.</p>
<p>As far as the &#8220;magic&#8221; adamantium bullet?  I guess it works this way:  A regular bullet will just flatten or disintegrate against an adamantium skull (which is what happened in X2).  The bullet dissipates it&#8217;s velocity not against the skull, but against itself, which is why it pancaked.  But remember that scene in X2&#8230;  Wolverine was knocked out for a minute or so as the healing factor kicked in.  A regular bullet rattled his brain enough to knock him out.  Adamantium bullets likewise cannot penetrate adamantium skulls, but its velocity has no where to go.  The force of the bullet cannot be dissipated against anything except the skull and itself equally, which means Wolverine&#8217;s brain didn&#8217;t just get rattled.  Wolverine&#8217;s brain had a seismic event.  Wolverine&#8217;s brain got hit by &#8220;the big one.&#8221;  As the brain healed it created new gray matter to replace the damage.  Hence the memory loss.  They&#8217;re in there somewhere (and Professor X helped pull them out in X2), but it&#8217;s damaged or buried.</p>
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		<title>By: Ostrakos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ostrakos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 15:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wolverine was terrible.  So terrible that when I hurried out of the theatre, I noticed Star Trek was playing in 10 minutes, so I bought a ticket and went to see that to clear all the awfulness outta my head.  It seems like the whole point of the movie was to cram it full of crappy characters and see which ones would stick and deliver a whole new franchise, not to tell a story about Wolverine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wolverine was terrible.  So terrible that when I hurried out of the theatre, I noticed Star Trek was playing in 10 minutes, so I bought a ticket and went to see that to clear all the awfulness outta my head.  It seems like the whole point of the movie was to cram it full of crappy characters and see which ones would stick and deliver a whole new franchise, not to tell a story about Wolverine.</p>
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		<title>By: Weeji</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weeji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 14:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;forgive me for complaining if it’s a vital plot point that he not talk at the end.&quot;

Actually, to the contrary, its quite the opposite of vital.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;forgive me for complaining if it’s a vital plot point that he not talk at the end.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, to the contrary, its quite the opposite of vital.</p>
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		<title>By: grifter</title>
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		<dc:creator>grifter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 20:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Is Deadpool really dead?&quot;

i guess you left during the end credits ...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is Deadpool really dead?&#8221;</p>
<p>i guess you left during the end credits &#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: EvolutionAngel</title>
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		<dc:creator>EvolutionAngel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 20:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I felt the movie was too cluttered with Mutants.  I wanted a Wolverine Story not a Weapon X team story :(</description>
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		<title>By: Kelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 19:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Shaun: FWIW, it seemed clear that the bullet took &lt;b&gt;all&lt;/b&gt; of Logan&#039;s memories.  Not that it makes much sense still, but it&#039;s not as nonsensical as a bullet taking only specific ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Shaun: FWIW, it seemed clear that the bullet took <b>all</b> of Logan&#8217;s memories.  Not that it makes much sense still, but it&#8217;s not as nonsensical as a bullet taking only specific ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 18:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t think that the adamantium bullet was a bad way of doing it.  Presumably, adamantium would be able to break through adamantium, so that part of it works for me.

As for the memory part, well, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a stretch to imagine that the bullet would cause severe brain damage.  He managed to survive by his healing factor, of course, but that doesn&#039;t mean his memories would come back, too.  It wasn&#039;t specific memories that seemed to vanish, but rather everything, the same way somebody who received brain damage might develop amnesia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t think that the adamantium bullet was a bad way of doing it.  Presumably, adamantium would be able to break through adamantium, so that part of it works for me.</p>
<p>As for the memory part, well, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a stretch to imagine that the bullet would cause severe brain damage.  He managed to survive by his healing factor, of course, but that doesn&#8217;t mean his memories would come back, too.  It wasn&#8217;t specific memories that seemed to vanish, but rather everything, the same way somebody who received brain damage might develop amnesia.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 18:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But see... After TDK and Iron Man last year, and I&#039;ll even throw the first two Spider-Man and X-Men movies into the mix (not to mention V for Vendetta, which I loved every bit as much the original books), we should be expecting more out of comic book-based films. And, man (and woman), did Wolverine fall short of the mark... And Gambit? Yeesh... Don&#039;t like him in the comics (what little I&#039;ve seen of him there) or in the movie. No way that character can carry a film of his own. Not a good one, at least. 

As for Wolverine&#039;s ending... If an &quot;adamantinum bullet&quot; (oh, whatever) through the brain, conveniently taking Logan&#039;s specific memories makes any sense to anyone, well then please explain that bit of logic to me. Sorry, but the movie was crap. The way to go would&#039;ve been making X4, and somehow trying to undo the damage of that movie. Really, the whole X-Men franchise is messed up... It&#039;ll likely never get fixed, so long as FOX retains the rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But see&#8230; After TDK and Iron Man last year, and I&#8217;ll even throw the first two Spider-Man and X-Men movies into the mix (not to mention V for Vendetta, which I loved every bit as much the original books), we should be expecting more out of comic book-based films. And, man (and woman), did Wolverine fall short of the mark&#8230; And Gambit? Yeesh&#8230; Don&#8217;t like him in the comics (what little I&#8217;ve seen of him there) or in the movie. No way that character can carry a film of his own. Not a good one, at least. </p>
<p>As for Wolverine&#8217;s ending&#8230; If an &#8220;adamantinum bullet&#8221; (oh, whatever) through the brain, conveniently taking Logan&#8217;s specific memories makes any sense to anyone, well then please explain that bit of logic to me. Sorry, but the movie was crap. The way to go would&#8217;ve been making X4, and somehow trying to undo the damage of that movie. Really, the whole X-Men franchise is messed up&#8230; It&#8217;ll likely never get fixed, so long as FOX retains the rights.</p>
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		<title>By: RMC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 15:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most homoerotic film of all time, superhero or not, is The Fast and the Furious. Take out the cars and it&#039;s all pouting, oiled muscles and lingering meaningful looks. 

Gambit was just a plot device with a stick in this movie and the only thing that made his presence bearable was the amount of fun Taylor Kitsch was obviously having in the role. My friend (another non-comics person) enjoyed it too but knowing how good it could have been marred the whole experience for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most homoerotic film of all time, superhero or not, is The Fast and the Furious. Take out the cars and it&#8217;s all pouting, oiled muscles and lingering meaningful looks. </p>
<p>Gambit was just a plot device with a stick in this movie and the only thing that made his presence bearable was the amount of fun Taylor Kitsch was obviously having in the role. My friend (another non-comics person) enjoyed it too but knowing how good it could have been marred the whole experience for me.</p>
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		<title>By: silvanthalas</title>
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		<dc:creator>silvanthalas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 15:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So the dismal reviews? Meh. What did they want, The Dark Knight?&quot;

Some of them? They probably did. Not all reviewers are worth reading. Actually, most reviewers are not worth reading.

But some obviously wanted something they could just enjoy, and they flat out didn&#039;t enjoy this film.

&quot;Admittedly, there’s probably a Dark Knight-level story that could be told about Wolverine, but this sure as heck wasn’t it.&quot;

You&#039;re right, it wasn&#039;t, and that&#039;s a shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So the dismal reviews? Meh. What did they want, The Dark Knight?&#8221;</p>
<p>Some of them? They probably did. Not all reviewers are worth reading. Actually, most reviewers are not worth reading.</p>
<p>But some obviously wanted something they could just enjoy, and they flat out didn&#8217;t enjoy this film.</p>
<p>&#8220;Admittedly, there’s probably a Dark Knight-level story that could be told about Wolverine, but this sure as heck wasn’t it.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, it wasn&#8217;t, and that&#8217;s a shame.</p>
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