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Some unsolicited, unnecessary and probably unwanted advice for Dwayne McDuffie

May 8th, 2009
Author J. Caleb Mozzocco

I don’t envy Dwayne McDuffie.

A long-time comics writer and a fairly successful presence in the animation world, he seemed to hit the jackpot with his latest assignment for DC Comics: Writing Justice League of America, which, at the time he took over in late 2007, was the company’s biggest hit, thanks in large part to the previous writer Brad Meltzer’s short run.

So not only was McDuffie getting the opportunity to write DC’s number one team made up of some of the biggest and most popular superheroes in the world, it was already a massive hit. It sure seems like it would have been a dream job, at least from where I sit.

Well, as it turns out, it looks like it may have been one of those blessing-is-actually-a-curse, your-son-comes-home-from-war-but-is-a-zombie, monkey’s paw type situations. The book seems to have come with a lot of strings attached.

During the twenty issues and one special that constituted McDuffie’s run, it has been used to launch, set-up or tie-in to miniseries Tangent: Superman’s Reign, Salvation Run (itself a Countdown tie-in), Final Crisis and Justice League: A Cry For Justice, as well as introducing the Milestone characters into the DCU and, in the latest few issues, reflecting the changes in various other books (Wonder Woman, the Superman and Batman books, etc). That’s a lot of writing about what other people are writing about to cram into 22 pages a month, while still maybe trying to tell your own story around the edges (made more difficult by how much the previous writer left unresolved, for whoever followed him to either completely ignore or clean up for him).

By Chris Eckert’s count, there have been sixteen pencillers and twenty-three inkers so far, leaving McDuffie without a real partner to help establish a look, feel or tone for the book (as well as furthering the image of a book lurching in a different direction month after month).

Back in February, a commenter on McDuffie’s message board asked him if he even enjoyed writing JLoA since “it just seems to be constant editorial rewrites and bad art,” and McDuffie responded rather simply, “No, I don’t.”

On Monday, gossip columnist Rich Johnston trawled a long thread on the DC message board for juicy quotes from McDuffie about his work on the title, and the results were revealing.

McDuffie speaks plainly (and, it should be pointed out, quite politely) about some of the difficulties of writing DC’s flagship title, since most of the cast is on loan from other writers and editorial offices (That is, if the Batman creators are killing of Bruce Wayne for a year and putting someone else in the cape and cowl, obviously Bruce Wayne will be missing some Justice League meetings).

While he doesn’t say so, I imagine this is all the harder given DC’s current publishing strategy of doing big, DCU-shaking events like Final Crisis and Blackest Night, with smaller, character-specific events like “Battle For the Cowl,” and “World Without Superman” and so on occurring in between.

So not only were his long-term plans constantly being changed to reflect the rest of the DC line’s stories, he increasingly found it hard just to fill the chairs around the meeting table:

Beyond that, The Hawks, Green Arrow, both Atoms, Captain Marvel and almost everyone I think of as either a big gun, or a traditional JLA favorite are likewise not available. So as we wait for things to settle down in the other titles, I’m doing “Cap’s Kooky Quartet.” Of course, in this case Captain America isn’t available, either.

I gave that some thought for much of the week, as Justice League line-ups have been on my mind a lot lately, ever since Dan DiDio asked Newsarama readers, “What would you consider the perfect team for the Justice League of America, and why?”* (Although, honestly, I spend a lot of time thinking about the Justice League anyway).

And you know, as big as the DC Universe is, so much of it does seem off-limits to League membership at the moment. Of the original seven, Batman, Aquaman and Martian Manhunter are all (temporarily) dead,  Superman’s on vacation and Wonder Woman’s…busy, I think she said.

So this is the current League line-up, according to the roll call in the last issue of the title:

Green Lantern John Stewart
Dr. Light II
Firestorm II
Vixen
Zatanna
and mmmayybe Black Canary.

DC has so many team titles at the moment—Titans, Teen Titans, JSoA, Outsiders—that just about every hero primarily associated with another franchise is already starring in another team book, making promoting most of them to the JLA difficult. In fact, these books have even re-absorbed recent League members (Flash and Red Arrow are in Titans, Black Lightning and Geo-Force are in Outsiders). Even the DC teams that don’t actually have ongoing books or miniseries at the moment seem to still be extant off-panel, with The Freedom Fighters, Doom Patrol, Metal Men and Shadow Pact eating up even more of the DC’s superheroes with League potential. Oh, and the New Gods are all out too, pending the end of their post-Final Crisis fallow period.

If McDuffie wanted to use former Leaguers, and pick ones that aren’t currently on a superhero team or involved in a status quo that would prevent them from joining (like Booster Gold or Fire, for example), well, he’s limited the likes of Huntress, Steel, Plastic Man, um, Blue Jay…Maya…Faith, and, um…is Green Arrow II still alive?  How about Tasmanian Devil?

So yeah, despite the thousands of characters, many of them with unrealized potential, McDuffie doesn’t seem to have a lot to choose from at the moment, certainly not any that will make his current kooky quintet seem any less kooky.

He could always create new characters, of course, as he does have a pretty rare opportunity to inject some original creations into the fabric of the DCU, but it’s quite understandable why any writer might be reluctant to do so, given the current realities of the comics industry. (If McDuffie has a great idea for the next Superman, or even the next Booster Gold, why sign it over to DC when he could benefit more from a creator-owned endeavor with the character?)

So what’s left?

Well, McDuffie could just go ahead and do something super-crazy. It’s clear the Justice League book is in something of a temporary holding pattern, waiting for current and near-future storylines to end before moving forward, giving the writer the opportunity to try something really, really unexpected.

Here are some probably  extremely unrealistic suggestions:

The Super-Chief route: One of the most exciting things about 52 was the way the book managed to introduce refurbished versions of old, obscure DC characters, most of whom didn’t last through the end of the series. Think Supernova, Isis, Batwoman and, a personal favorite, Super-Chief, who was a member of the title’s makeshift Justice League for all of one issue.

You can flip through The DC Comics Encyclopedia pretty much at random and find someone exciting. Like one-time Superman supporting character Alpha Centurion. Or frequent cameo-er The Odd Man. Or mentioned-more-than-once-by-Jame-Robinson Golden Ager The Red Torpedo. Or former Ultramarines/Global Guardians like Jack O’Lantern, The Olympian, Fleur-De-Lis and 4-D. Or Power Company’s Skyrocket, or Sirocco from Kurt Busiek’s Superman run. Or “Planet DC” character creations like Cachiru, El Lobizon or The Janissary. Or Club of Heroes stand outs Chief Man-of-Bats and Red Raven.

A “name” hero from a different milieu: Adam Strange, for example, has long been a friend and ally of the League, but I don’t think he’s ever been an official, go-to-meetings, have-a-symbol-on-the-back-of-a-chair kind of member. He’s gotta do something while he’s on Earth, waiting for the next Zeta Beam to Rann, why not fight crime with his jetpack and laser pistol alongside the Justice League?

Or what about Travis Morgan, The Warlord of The Warlord, who’s got a new ongoing book out that League membership would help promote? He may not have super-powers, but they let Green Arrow hang around all those years, surely being good with a sidearm and sword makes him just as qualified as Oliver Queen, right?

Or Claw, The Unconquered? The original, the one from Primal Force or the one from the recent-ish Wildstorm reboot attempt?

I always thought it would be cool if Jonah Hex was transported into his future/the League’s present sorta like how he was transported to a post-apocalyptic future in Hex. Or, if not Hex, any of DC’s historical heroes finding their way to a seat at the League’s table for a few months via time travel might be cool. (Time travel, or found frozen in a block of ice, Captain America-style).

Borrowed from a parallel earth: Dan DiDio has indicated that the multiverse is currently closed down until Grant Morrison does his thing with it next, but some of the borders seem a little more permeable than others. Characters from the Tangent universe already appeared in McDuffie’s JLoA, and that universe has  versions of all the characters currently off-limits to him in the main DCU universe.

There’s the Wildstorm Universe, which has also interacted with the DCU in various books. There’s probably a handful of good solid characters that would fit in with the Justice League roster. Heck, they even have plenty of analogues to DCU characters, so if Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman are off-limits, maybe Apollo, Midnighter and Zealot are availabe.

The Anti-Matter Universe’s Crime Syndicate has appeared rather regularly ever since Morrison and Frank Quitely’s JLA: Earth-2 graphic novel, and they’ve got hero versions of all of this Earth’s villains (many of whom Busiek has created, during his short JLA run and throughout Trinity).

I was going to suggest Icon and Rocket, but it seems like McDuffie is already adding a Milestone character to the league, and Icon seems the most League-worthy. (I hope Icon brings Rocket with him though).

Someone completely insane: Like, say, The Spirit.

Yes, I know, it does sound a little sacrilegious. But, on the other hand, DC already owns the character, he’s already met Batman and Robin (and seen Superman from afar), and it looks like he may be appearing in some sort of crossover with other characters** and it would certainly be such a nutty idea that it would draw attention and interest. And he need not join for long.

Similarly insane, if not quite as taboo-sounding, would be Space Ghost, the old Hanna Barbera superhero. I’m not sure if DC still owns the rights to publish comics featuring him, but DC’s parent company still owns the character, as far as I know. They published a surprisingly quite good miniseries by Joe Kelly and Ariel Olivetti featuring the character in 2005, and the more serious take on the character would fit in easily with the tone of the DCU if he, I don’t know, flew through a wormhole and got stuck in our solar system or whatever comic book science reason they could think to team him up with the Justice League.

If DC does still own all those old Hanna Barbera characters, then man, think of the possibilities! Blue Falcon and Dyno-Mutt! Mightor! Birdman! Samson & Goliath! Or “the world’s first superhero,” Captain Caveman!

Okay, I’ll stop now.

Public domain characters: Let me just throw some names out here: Frankenstein (who Grant Morrison and Doug Mahnke already went ahead and made awesome), Dracula, Bigfoot, Aladdin, Robin Hood, Samson, Hercules, Beowulf, King Arthur, Santa Claus. They’ve all got that “iconic” thing down, and while two of these guys would be one too many, any one of them might work just fine.

Okay, that’s all I got. Any suggestions from any of these categories, or any of your own, you’d like to throw out there?

*The original seven plus Captain Marvel, Plastic Man and Mister Miracle, because C.C. Beck, Jack Cole and Jack Kirby. And also some other heroes, preferably ones that aren’t white men, like, I don’t know, Steel, Black Lightning, Vixen, Hawkgirl, et cetera.

**Speaking of which, I think Rima, The Jungle Girl always has a spot at the JLA table, being grandfathered in through Superfriends appearances, in much the same way that Black Ligthning has always deserved to be on the League by virtue of Black Vulcan being on Superfriends.

 
22 Responses to “Some unsolicited, unnecessary and probably unwanted advice for Dwayne McDuffie”
  1. Mr Wesley Says:

    Totally agree in concept. This is, basically what Giffen and Demattis did for what became JLI. All the really popular characters (and a lot of the lesser-known ones) were otherwise indisposed, Giffen, et al basically said, “Okay, so who do we have?” And they made lemonade.

    You know what I’d love to see is a SECOND “Big Seven,” a bunch of also-rans hand-picked by the original Big Seven. The Huntress, Steel, Artemis, John Stewart, etc.

  2. grott Says:

    I vote for Dynomutt and Blue Falcon. Or the Herculoids. Of course, with DC the way it is these days, they’d end up tortured, humiliated and then eaten by Igoo the Rock Ape

  3. Cisco Kid Says:

    Mr Wesley inadvertently brings up a good idea. What about a present day version of JLI? I loved the team up in Blue Beetle when they all took down the Reach, and besides, what else is Tora up to since her revival?

    I guess goes back to the article’s point, though. Guy is tied up with Blackest Night, Booster has his own book, Jaime is in Teen Titans, etc. Plus, Didio hates them.

    That said, I would definitely read the “also rans” league. Any opportunity for more Steel.

  4. Anthony Cheng Says:

    Very cool idea for a post. Help a Writer Out! :)

    I do feel bad for Mr. McDuffie, I’m sure this experience will make him want to stay in animation for a long while.

    Considering the restraints put on him, I think he has the best line-up you could put together. Even Connor Hawke is off the board, he’s over in GA & BC right now. In terms of power level, you’ve got a GL, Firestorm, and Zatanna on there, that’s not terrible. Heck, that would be overpowered in a Marvel book :)

    The problem is he doesn’t really want to write these characters, which means the work suffers. That’s a shame because McDuffie does great superhero team stories.

  5. Paul-o Says:

    Sorry to be pessimist on such good thoughts, but these ideas are far too creative (!) for Mr Didio to pick up. My bet is the title will suffer long and not prosper until the old big guns are back to tell the same old stories over and over again.

  6. Rob Says:

    Because McDuffie is in a very…uhhh..unique situation, why not use the following as the roll call for the JLA right now given the current state of the DC Universe?–

    Black Canary
    GL John Stewart
    Hawkman
    Firestorm II
    Zatanna
    The Question
    The Spectre

    Now before anyone starts to condemn this lineup, here me out. You have five “classic” characters who have an extensive history with the Justice League in Black Canary, John Stewart, Hawkman, Firestorm II (replacing the original), and Zatanna. In addition, all of these characters hold a special place in many JLA fans’ hearts because of their memorable tenures on the team. So all these characters work, yes? If Hawkman is unavailable (as McDuffie has stated in the past) because of his membership on the JSA, simply give his spot to Zauriel. Zauriel is another character who has a history with the team, and he featured prominently in Grant Morrison’s famous JLA run. Still with me?

    Now as far as the Question and the Spectre are concerned, these two characters would represent the seemingly mandatory Superman-Batman dynamic on the team. The Question (yes, the Renee Montoya version) would be a good fit as the Batman-type character, and a spot on the JLA would give her some much-needed recognition in the DCU. If the Question is unavilable because of her co-feature in Detective Comics, however, you can easily replace her with Huntress, another character with close ties to the Bat family. I think that would work too, although I’d much rather see the Question in the JLA.

    Now I know I’ll have a much more difficult time explaining my rationale for having the Spectre on the team. First off, despite his near omnipotence, the Spirit of Vengeance is an extremely under-utilized character in the DCU, and I actually believe a spot on the JLA could work wonders with his popularity and prominence. Also, don’t forget that the Spectre was an original member of the Justice Society, so serving on a superhero team isn’t a completely ridiculous idea given the character’s background. Perhaps most importantly, the Spectre is certainly a more powerful entity than Superman, so he can definitely serve as the muscle of the JLA, even though his god-like might has been troublesome for writers in the past. At the same time, the best Spectre stories usually focus on the character’s humanity, and I really think McDuffie would benefit from writing such stories, especially if some JLA members continually question the Spectre’s membership status on the team.

    Now by no means is this the ideal lineup for the Justice League. Not by a long shot. But given the situation in the DC Universe (and in the DC offices) at this time, I really think this lineup could work. It’s worth a shot…at least for the short run.

  7. Rob Says:

    Plus, having Renee Montoya and Crispus Allen in the same book is bound to create some fireworks :-) (Final Crisis: Revelations, anyone?)

  8. RavenProject Says:

    I’m honestly surprised that the JLA has been allowed to reach this point, given Didio’s desire to present an “iconic” vision of the DC Universe.

    With a vision like that, I’d have expected him to reconstruct not just the Magnificent Seven but the entire Satellite-Era team.

    -J

  9. Shaun Says:

    Wouldn’t it just be easier for Paul Levitz (or whoever makes the personnel decisions at DC)to fire Didio and start EVERYTHING over from scratch? Just askin’.

    But barring that, yeah, they should go for Blue Falcon and Dynomutt. They’d have to be more entertaining than just about anything DC’s crapping out lately.

  10. The Hipster Dad Says:

    Hey, I was just talking about the Odd Man last week! The campaign for his return to glory starts here!

    But seriously, DC, you should crack that wonderful Showcase Presents JLA volume 4 you released a couple of months back. You might notice something about all those wonderful Denny O’Neil / Dick Dillin / Joe Giella issues: you need not read any other comic books to enjoy them. Until you figure out that potential readers don’t *want* to know or care about what happens in every single comic you publish, you’re not going to publish any good JLA books outside of the Showcase line.

  11. Russ Burlingame Says:

    I’m shocked that this title hasn’t taken on a similar bent to Superman/Batman: Have it take place not OUT of continuity, but absent current continuity from the equation and let the team function in more-or-less our DCU but without worrying about what Superman is “doing this week.”

  12. Jacob Says:

    Although, the book is still one of DC’s best selling…so…if it’s not broke an’ all…

    BTW, you take it out of continuity, and sales plummet. Superhero fans don’t want “out of continuity.”

  13. Sallyp Says:

    Well pooh, you don’t need the “Big Three” to make the Justice League, there are TONS of characters that could be fun to use. Heck, the present bunch isn’t bad at all.

    It would be nice to add Fire and Ice, since Checkmate doesn’t seem to be doing much, and I love the two of them.

    If Batman could be in twelve different books AND the Justice League, then so can Booster. Ted is supposed to be alive…just hiding out, bring Blue and Gold back!

    The Justice Society is just BRIMMING with characters, surely, they could lend a few to the Justice League. Like Obsidian, and Sandy, neither one of whom ever seem to get to do much. Throw in the Shade for good measure.

  14. Daniel Says:

    I would totally buy a book with Space Ghost, The Spirit, Doc Savage and Blue Falcon (w/Dyno-Mutt) in it.
    Thoughts of a new “Detroit League” make me sad.

  15. Brenticles Says:

    Well with the above restrictions I would have

    Icon
    Knight
    Artemis
    GL John Stewart
    Lady Dr. Light
    Firestorm II
    Brainwave
    Vixen
    Dr. Fate

    But yeah, Space Ghost in the DCU (for even a little while) would be pretty cool.

  16. Goob Says:

    Considering who is left in the DCU here is my squad

    Flash (Barry Allen)
    Black Canary
    Zatanna
    Vixen
    Doctor Light
    Captain Atom
    Huntress or Manhunter
    Plastic Man
    Steel
    Green Lantern (John Stewart)
    Firestorm (Jason Rusch)
    Zan & Jayna

  17. RavenProject Says:

    @Jacob: “Superhero fans don’t want ‘out of continuity.’”

    There’s probably a compromise to be found between “out of continuity” and “victimized by continuity.”

    There’s nothing that says you can’t run a JLA story that takes place “within continuity” without being strictly concurrent with other stories taking place. The DCU is a big place, and even a year-long storyline (other than 52) tends to happen over just a few days story-time. There’s nothing to keep a JLA story from taking place during a gap in the timeline where all the requisite characters are available.

    I sort of understand DC’s intent — they want to present a unified front with the DCU whenever possible. But that’s really hurting the League right now. They want the storyline version of the JLA to represent the premier superhero team, but behind the scenes it’s subsisting on crumbs and scraps left behind by other books… and that shows on the page.

    -J

  18. Hubert Says:

    They need:

    Space story where they team up with Adam Strange and Space Ghost.

    A time travel story where Doc Savage and his Furious Five receive the assistance of Iron Munro and Justice League.

  19. Devyn Rodriguez Says:

    Last time I checked DC licensed the Spirit from Will Eisners estate, I don’t think they own him.

  20. Woofus Says:

    How about Jesus or Buddha? That would get some press coverage, methinks…

    “Janissary” comes from a Turkish word meaning “New Troops” (think “fresh meat”), meaning young boys bought as slaves by the Bektashi order, to be enrolled in their ranks. The concept is closely bound up with sodomy, I’m afraid. Couldn’t DC have consulted one Turkish person about the name?

  21. moiralewis Says:

    “There’s nothing that says you can’t run a JLA story that takes place “within continuity” without being strictly concurrent with other stories taking place. The DCU is a big place, and even a year-long storyline (other than 52) tends to happen over just a few days story-time. There’s nothing to keep a JLA story from taking place during a gap in the timeline where all the requisite characters are available.”

    Building on what RavenProject said, this sounds very much like how the JLA was being handled during what many think of as the Glory days of Grant Morrison. And I’d add that I think that that was what made it possible for Morrison to write good ongoing stories. Other than his own 1,000,000 event, he really did not have to take into consideration what was happening in other books other than being sure that he had the present version (electric superman, for example) of the characters he was writing.
    I love McDuffie’s writing style and how he handles the characters. It would be great to see him able to write his own complete storylines with a cast of his own choosing.
    I don’t understand why DC seems to be undercutting the success of the book.

  22. Bob Violence Says:

    DC doesn’t give a damn about the JLA. Why else would they let Meltzer do what he did? McDuffie is a good writer, but DC editorial is so bent on destroying the JLA, they won’t let him use anyone from the JLA in the book. Imagine if McDuffie was told to write ‘Batman’, only without Batman, Robin, Alfred or Commisioner Gordon.
    The JLA is the elite supergroup of the DCU, they are not a bunch of third-stringers. DC needs to accept this, it’s the reason the book exists and their niche in the DCU. Efforts to work outside this can be good and entertaining, but they’re not the Justice League.

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