Comments on: Raven Gregory (and Son) on WATCHMEN http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/03/16/raven-gregory-and-son-on-watchmen/ The Blog@ Team and prominent comics personalities share what’s on their minds. Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:57:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Jaylon gregory http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/03/16/raven-gregory-and-son-on-watchmen/comment-page-1/#comment-697466 Jaylon gregory Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:43:38 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=11210#comment-697466 My dad cares for me and yes he covered my eyes but why would any dad talk about sex with a 12 year old. ;] My dad cares for me and yes he covered my eyes but why would any dad talk about sex with a 12 year old. ;]

]]> By: Joe http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/03/16/raven-gregory-and-son-on-watchmen/comment-page-1/#comment-460580 Joe Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:45:46 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=11210#comment-460580 I saw Starship Troopers when I was around the same age, and my eyes didn't even get covered up during the shower or sex scene despite being with my dad. Personally, I think if a parent treats a child like an adult with proper guidance, explanations, and help along the way the kid should be fine. Though, I suppose what exactly that would consist of would be a different matter of debate. And this is all me running my mouth without any experience. We'll see if I can follow my own advice once I get a little hellion of my own. I saw Starship Troopers when I was around the same age, and my eyes didn’t even get covered up during the shower or sex scene despite being with my dad.
Personally, I think if a parent treats a child like an adult with proper guidance, explanations, and help along the way the kid should be fine. Though, I suppose what exactly that would consist of would be a different matter of debate. And this is all me running my mouth without any experience. We’ll see if I can follow my own advice once I get a little hellion of my own.

]]> By: Raven Gregory http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/03/16/raven-gregory-and-son-on-watchmen/comment-page-1/#comment-460562 Raven Gregory Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:59:49 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=11210#comment-460562 I think my biggest deal with the rape scene in WALKING DEAD was that, from what I remember, it was pretty graphic, not so much in what they showed but how it was potrayed, the "attempted" rape scene in Watchmen was handle with more of a Hitchcock style with showing less to show more with the scene playing out quickly when the comedian got his ass beat by masked avenger (I think that's his name). As for movies parents take their kids to see, each parent is different. I was brought up a horror junkie from day one. I remember my mom taking me to see Nightmare on Elm Street the Dream Warriors in the third grade and covering my eyes whenever nudity popped up on the screen:) Jaylon is very much the same way. He digs all things horror related, as well as Pixar, action flicks, and comedies and he understands very well that none of these things are real and that somewhere there is a person writing all this stuff into existence with actors playing the part on screen. He's actually working on a zombie novel himself as he's a huge fan of Max Brooks work. The opposite end of the spectrum is my eight year old who can't stand to even see a scary commercial let alone a scary movie. But yeah, I don't think he'll fully get Watchmen for some years to come but I like the fact that he got to see something he read be so faithful translated. I think my biggest deal with the rape scene in WALKING DEAD was that, from what I remember, it was pretty graphic, not so much in what they showed but how it was potrayed, the “attempted” rape scene in Watchmen was handle with more of a Hitchcock style with showing less to show more with the scene playing out quickly when the comedian got his ass beat by masked avenger (I think that’s his name).

As for movies parents take their kids to see, each parent is different. I was brought up a horror junkie from day one. I remember my mom taking me to see Nightmare on Elm Street the Dream Warriors in the third grade and covering my eyes whenever nudity popped up on the screen:)

Jaylon is very much the same way. He digs all things horror related, as well as Pixar, action flicks, and comedies and he understands very well that none of these things are real and that somewhere there is a person writing all this stuff into existence with actors playing the part on screen.

He’s actually working on a zombie novel himself as he’s a huge fan of Max Brooks work.

The opposite end of the spectrum is my eight year old who can’t stand to even see a scary commercial let alone a scary movie.

But yeah, I don’t think he’ll fully get Watchmen for some years to come but I like the fact that he got to see something he read be so faithful translated.

]]> By: Shaun http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/03/16/raven-gregory-and-son-on-watchmen/comment-page-1/#comment-460520 Shaun Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:32:52 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=11210#comment-460520 I have to question some of the standards here too... Cover you kid's eyes for the sex scene, but the over the top violence in the movie, including the attempted (in the movie) rape, is OK? I'm also wondering if taking a child to the movie, knowing you fully intend to cover his eyes during the sex scene, is really a movie the kid should be seeing in the first place? There's also Laurie/Manhattan's sex scene (tame, but played up a bit more in the movie than in the book), and the infamous big blue cock. I'm curious to know if Mr. Gregory talked about the sex in the book with his son, and how he distinguishes that from the movie (admittedly, Dan and Laurie's tryst was surprisingly graphic compared to the comic). Jaylon does sound like a bright young man, though I have to admit that his "agreeing" with Ozymandias yeeped me out a bit. He definitely shows he's 12 when he talks about the second half of the movie picking up due to "a lot more kicking butt," and that might be reason enough to say that Watchmen really isn't meant for kids that age. "Kicking butt" wasn't really the point, but a younger child isn't necessarily going to pick up on that. Every parent has to make his or her decisions about stuff like this, and I'm just offering up my $.02 in the matter. I have to question some of the standards here too… Cover you kid’s eyes for the sex scene, but the over the top violence in the movie, including the attempted (in the movie) rape, is OK?

I’m also wondering if taking a child to the movie, knowing you fully intend to cover his eyes during the sex scene, is really a movie the kid should be seeing in the first place? There’s also Laurie/Manhattan’s sex scene (tame, but played up a bit more in the movie than in the book), and the infamous big blue cock.

I’m curious to know if Mr. Gregory talked about the sex in the book with his son, and how he distinguishes that from the movie (admittedly, Dan and Laurie’s tryst was surprisingly graphic compared to the comic).

Jaylon does sound like a bright young man, though I have to admit that his “agreeing” with Ozymandias yeeped me out a bit. He definitely shows he’s 12 when he talks about the second half of the movie picking up due to “a lot more kicking butt,” and that might be reason enough to say that Watchmen really isn’t meant for kids that age. “Kicking butt” wasn’t really the point, but a younger child isn’t necessarily going to pick up on that.

Every parent has to make his or her decisions about stuff like this, and I’m just offering up my $.02 in the matter.

]]> By: Franly http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/03/16/raven-gregory-and-son-on-watchmen/comment-page-1/#comment-460502 Franly Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:51:31 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/?p=11210#comment-460502 I was about 13 or 14 when i read Watchmen the first time, not much older than this kid. I thought it was pretty subversive reading this in class in a Catholic School. I find it ironic though that in your household though, WALKING DEAD got banned because of a rape scene (in 50+ issues), while in the Watchmen COMIC BOOK the Rape Scene is perhaps longer than any action sequence found anywhere in all 12 chapters. Also if you've seen the movie, the rape scene was extremely graphic, so why isn't this banned as well? I'm not a parent so i wouldn't know about these standards. I was about 13 or 14 when i read Watchmen the first time, not much older than this kid. I thought it was pretty subversive reading this in class in a Catholic School. I find it ironic though that in your household though, WALKING DEAD got banned because of a rape scene (in 50+ issues), while in the Watchmen COMIC BOOK the Rape Scene is perhaps longer than any action sequence found anywhere in all 12 chapters. Also if you’ve seen the movie, the rape scene was extremely graphic, so why isn’t this banned as well? I’m not a parent so i wouldn’t know about these standards.

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