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Scott Allie: What I Found at NYCC 09, Amazing and Otherwise . . .

February 13th, 2009
Author Troy Brownfield

While at New York Comic Con last week, I did a panel with editors Mike Marts (DC), Nick Lowe (Marvel), and Rob Levin (Top Cow), moderated by Glenn Herdling and hosted by the great Buddy Scalera. We were talking about how freelancers or aspiring artists should work with and approach editors, and we were  all pretty surprised when Rob said that most of Top Cow’s artists come from portfolio reviews at conventions. Mike and Nick and I seldom hire someone off portfolio review. Discovering new talent should be a priority for editors, and yet we find that we seldom do that. We tend to hire artists that have done something somewhere else, maybe much smaller scale than our own operations, but not someone who’s never been published before. It’s something I don’t like to admit, only for fear that it discourages aspiring artists—but if someone can show me what I’ve been doing wrong (Rob…?), I’d be glad to listen.

Jill Thompson, the amazing Chicago-based artist and writer of Scary Godmother and a host of other books, was at NYCC, in part to promote a new book with Dark Horse called Beasts of Burden, written by Evan Dorkin. Jill and Evan first created this bunch of neighborhood dogs and a cat who face down occult threats for The Dark Horse Book of Hauntings, and this summer we spin it into its own series. We announced the book in a panel where Evan went on one of his famous tirades, grabbing attention by announcing Flash would appear in the book, and we figured DC wouldn’t even notice because “Dan Didio’s too busy ruining something.” Jill and Evan both spent a lot of time in the DH booth, which led Jill to introduce me to a Pratt Institute junior who creates amazing comics pages, mostly in the computer, like a lot of the kids these days. I hired her on the spot for a story in Myspace Dark Horse Presents. Later that same day, Sierra Hahn and I were doing portfolio review in the booth, and the fifty-second guy in line was really good. I believe he was a student at RISD. We hired him for a short story, too. Rob Levin, I guess you’d inspired me. 

Frankly—and I’m gonna get letters about this one!—I’m usually not happy with the work I see from college students. I want to think that schools graduate students trained to professionally pursue the discipline they’ve studied. I at least would like to see seniors whose work I can look at and say, Okay, you gotta do this, this, and this, and if you can really pull that together, you could get work. But so often the work of college students looks marginally better than the work of high school students, and I just wonder how the hell the teachers can feel good about collecting tuition. If you’re being paid to teach a kid to draw, and you have three or four years to do it, you should either have the power to do the job, or get the kids to study something they can use. I hate the idea of these kids working their asses off for years only to get no closer to their dream after going into decades of debt. (Insert comments about “new economy” here, the buzz words that ran across the convention floor all weekend.) Anyway, after this convention, RISD and Pratt (go Static Fish!) redeemed, for me, the whole notion of paid education.

As I mentioned on this blog last time, I had some specific books I was looking for artists for. Neither of these college kids were right for these jobs—they were good enough, but their styles were all wrong. I spent about three hours in artists alley, and despite great conversations with Sean Murphy and Stephane Roux, and then running in to Joss on the show floor, I didn’t manage to find all I needed. My search continues, but while I’m no Rob Levin, I consider myself lucky for being able to pick two needles out of the New York haystack.

Scott Allie is the Senior Managing Editor at Dark Horse Comics. His writing includes the horror comic The Devil’s Footprints, set in his hometown of Ipswich, MA.

9 Responses to “Scott Allie: What I Found at NYCC 09, Amazing and Otherwise . . .”
  1. Neal Holman Says:

    Y’know, I was always curious about this subject. Thanks for posting this.

    I should plug Chad: http://www.chadhurd.com

    I highly recommend him.

  2. Kody Chamberlain Says:

    Great write up, Scott. I always find it interesting to hear different views from the floor. Many creators design their convention gameplan specifically for the editors they plan to approach on the floor, and the methods they believe have worked for other creators. In a way, they consider themselve offense and they’re trying to find the weakness in your defense. It’s an amazing dynamic to watch unfold on the convention floor.

  3. TIM SEELEY Says:

    Y’know, I’ve had to find new artists for projects, and really, it’s hard as hell. I see a lot of great portfolios, but, there’s always the fear that the artist can’t pull off the deadlines. That alone is reason enough to hire people who’ve at least got one finished project under their belt. I say this as a guy who never got any work form Rob. ;)
    TIM

  4. Dr. M Says:

    Scott,
    how do you know about Static Fish (was it something gleaned from the portfolio review)?

  5. Anthony Schiavino Says:

    Having had to hire somebody for my day job I can tell you there’s quite a few of resumes that come through with either no attempt at experience (internships, personal projects, etc) or their portfolios fall flat. There’s two parts to this problem. One is that yes the teachers really don’t give a damn (not all of them mind you) about the talent of said students. They’re being paid to teach. They care just about enough as however long the semester is.

    The other part of this problem is that the students don’t take initiative, be it trying to find internships, or just studying outside of class. They go by what the teachers tell them and take it as gospel instead of finding design magazines, photography magazines, font sites, design sites…and get other influences.

  6. connor Says:

    any links to the two people you hired? i’d really like to see their work

  7. Thacher E Cleveland Says:

    Scott, what’s the best approach a writer can take with you at a convention? I’m sure just standing and pitching at you probably isn’t very constructive, and I’m sure handing packages of just scripts isn’t either. At last year’s Wizard World Chicago I handed out an ashcan for a project an artist and I were working on. I didn’t really get any feedback from anyone, but I realized when I got to the show that I hadn’t practiced any kind of pitch to say aloud when I handed it, so that plus nerves equaled me handing it in going “Here’s this thing I’m working on I hope you enjoy it k thx bye.” Not a great impression, I realized after that fact.

    What, if anything, would you suggest for that kind of setting at a con, or is that something that you don’t like to do at shows?

  8. Filip Sablik Says:

    Hey Scott, Very nice entry! I enjoyed doing the Social Networking panel with you and hope to catch you again around the con circuit.

    Take care,

    Filip Sablik
    Publisher, Top Cow Productions
    Read a free issue of Witchblade at http://www.topcow.com/witchblade

  9. Scott Allie Says:

    Dr. M—I was in Static Fish with Pratt student Rebecca Guay in 1989.
    Thatcher—doing an ashcan is a great way to start. Reading a new writer’s work in comics form is the best way I can assess them. It familiarizes me with their work. A lot of times I’ll correspond with an up and comer for years before hiring them. That relationship can start with their ashcan, and continue while they do work for Boom or IDW or even DC and Marvel. I’m on the brink of setting up a creator-owned deal with a couple local guys who showed me their ashcan last year. We’ve been talking over the year, and the stuff is progressing to where I think they’re ready. And if for some reason it doesn’t work at Dark Horse, I’ll help them craft their pitch for a smaller company—and then maybe the next thing will land at Dark Horse. So yeah, an ashcan is a good start. It’s just got to be an amazing ashcan. But it’s not so much about pitching as it is about building a relationship.
    Filip—Yeah, that social networking panel has corrupted me. I mean—here I am. And I also just started on Twitter, and I’m starting a blog on Dread Central, the horror website.

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