As an old Miller fan who avoided All Star Batman like the plague can I say that I have lost all my childhood respect for Frank Miller?

The older I get the more I realize that Frank Miller is just a crazy old man with some very immature ideas about the purpose of violence and war.

Is he still writing his cringe inducing Batman beats up Al Qaeda GN?

Much like my favorite musicians who the sun has set on, Frank Miller is over.

Holy Cunts, Batgirl!

I’ve heard “Fucking Batgirl” variant. Or “Cunt Batman”. Your call.

Full scans at http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17985

BWAH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

HA! That’s hilarious and stupid. Let the book fly. Who cares?

Man, you know half of the retailers aren’t going to destroy these “dirty” copies; rather, keep them, and their going to become coveted “potty-mouth” variants, worth a ton of greenbacks.

***king F*ck! I want a motherf*cking copy!

All seriousness…why “DESTROY” them. Why not sell them “behind the counter” to older folk? What a waste

How about the Motherf**king Goddamn Batc**t variant edition?

How about: #$%!ing All Star Batman and Robing Variant.

I live in Montreal Quebec Canada. Where the French couldn’t give a flying crap about nudity and swearing. I’m hoping he just let’s it go. But he does like money. Tabernaque!

If DC doesn’t believe cursing is appropriate for a Batman comics, then they probably should not have cursing in it at all (bleeped or otherwise).

This is going to make me sound old, but I’ve been having a problem with the amount of bleeped out curse-words in comics for a while. Every once in a while it’s okay, even funny. However take a look at New Avengers, the amount of @#$&^%s in recent issues are distracting. If you’re characters are going to cuss, let them cuss. If it’s not appropriate for the comic, DON’T EVEN BOTHER.

first there was “The goddamn Batman!”

now

“Its the fucking Batgirl!”

hahahaha

Even worse than the bleeped-out words, in my book, is the future cussing in Jim Shooter’s Legion of Super-Heroes. Yeah, there was some of it in earlier issues, but now it seems that every other sentence is “Florg that!” or the like. There’s a reason why comics don’t print the current version of those words–well, several reasons, but one of them is that excessive use of them isn’t “adult” or “mature,” but just lazy writing.

I agree. Good writers should be able to make the heroes sound hardcore without using bleeped out curse words.

The stupidity on the part of the letterer and the editor is staggering.

ASBARTBW continues to be my favourite Bat book, and this is why. Ooh I love Frank Miller! He really sticks it to the people who deserve it.

…If Miller hadn’t used the “C” word(*) - which is considered the one word that all women find universally offensive - there wouldn’t have been such a big deal. But after reading the dialog over on Rich Johnston’s LITG special page, it’s obvious that Miller went just a *little* bit overboard.

Which means this book should be titled “All-**** Batman & Robin”

(*) This is what *they* call it. I prefer to use the actual word “cunt” because it’s accurate

So this is bad but the issue in which Frank Miller wrote the story so Jim Lee could just have page after page of a female character posing in lingerie is okay? If Frank Miller wants to write down to his audience, that’s fine. The retailers should just bag and label the book “for immature adults only.”

eh, this error will never top the Wolverine racial-slur issue in the 90’s…

I mostly read ASBAR for “shits & giggles” and the beautiful Jim Lee artwork.

Not all stores are pulling the issues. I just got mine for 2.99 off the shelf ( no jacked up price) The store said they would sell it as is.

I’m with the CBLDF on this one. I don’t think it should be censored at all. Just leave it how it is and the free market will take care of it. If enough people are offended and stop reading, then the book will be canned. If there are still enough people reading, then quit worrying about it and let them have their All **** Batman and Robin. Seriously though, there are worse books out there, and this one doesn’t affect continuity, so you can just ignore it if you want. It’s not like it’s “One More Day”.

The language being used to shock is impossible in this day and age. These words have been over used to the point of being lazy for a writer to use such words.
Just because the Batfamily never said such things. Oh my he is sticking it to us.
I find people who try to stick to other people usually commit a self-inflicted wound.

Diamond didn’t even send copies to my shop, thus sparing me the moral dilemma of selling ‘em on eBay…

For all the people criticizing the letterer and editor:

Word is that Frank Miller insisted it be lettered by the script and then censored with the black strips.

So it wasn’t their stupid idea.

A friend suggested that it might have been requested this way so that a completely uncensored version could go out as a collection someday. A somewhat more likely occurrence than Frank Cho’s still-hypothetical naked edition of Shanna.

This is the same reason why Alan Moore doesn’t work with DC anymore.

“Are you kidding, dude? lol. Tell me how this doesn’t involve censorship.”

No, I’m not kidding. It’s a publisher requesting that one of its comics be destroyed because of a printing error. While you can debate the wisdom of relying on black — or not quite black — bars to cover profanity, the result is no different than, say, Random House calling for copies of one of its books to be pulled because pages were printed out of order.

lo and behold what was in my pull box today…cussin’ and all

Where can I get a copy… I could care less… All Star Batman is the funniest book on the market since Plastic Man was canceled..

People should do themselves a favor and learn what the word “censorship” means in the context of a discussion about rights. Although there are different kinds of censorship, CBLDF and other anti-censorship organizations have a very specific definition.

Censorship is NOT when a publisher alters the content of a work it owns. Censorship is NOT when Party A sues Party B because Party B printed something that makes Party A look bad (Hi, Ellison V. Fantagraphics!) Censorship is NOT when your mom makes you throw away a bitchin’ Slayer t-shirt because it’s got nasty stuff on it. Censorship is NOT when the admin of an internet forum bans you for fighting a lot.

Those things are all the acts of an independent party exercising legal or personal action on their own volition. Censorship IS when the government or some political body who actually has power over the courts prevents you from speaking freely. If Frank Miller went to jail or got fined because of this incident, it would be censorship. But DC (the company that owns this comic… Frank’s bosses) are choosing to limit what’s being said for their own sake.

Personally, I think this should be settled Michael Scott style. Call a press conference (that will only be attended by one member of the local media, of course) to announce an apology and present the victims with a giant novelty check plus free SWAG and/or partial discounts. If people still aren’t satisfied, Frank Miller himself would then call the Ungrateful Be-yotch Hotline.

At least this didn’t involve a watermark of a cartoon duck performing unspeakable acts on a beloved cartoon mouse.

I love how armchair dorks think they TOTALLY understand the concept of “censorship” as it applies to a private entity dictating the content of their creations. No wonder the American public educational system is the laughing stock of the civilized world.

My God–someone must protect the children from this…this filth! (And do something about South Park, too, while they’re at it.)

First they start learning these words, and next thing you know, they’ll be having premarital intercourse!

Why would he type the whole word anyways? Motherf**ker would be suffice!

All I’m saying is that the CBLDF doesn’t like censorship and support’s the artist’s creative freedom; and I don’t like censorship and I don’t want my artists pulling any punches. I don’t care whether it’s from outside by the government, or internally by the publisher. Even if it doesn’t annoy CBLDF, it annoys ME.
I mean, come on, we can all use our imagination to fill in the black bars anyway. What’s the point?

“I mean, come on, we can all use our imagination to fill in the black bars anyway. What’s the point?”

I think Miller may be intentionally parodying the use of such techniques. It goes with the whole over-the-top comics-aspects-to-their-extreme nature of this series. (People seem to be acting as if their insulting this series by saying it makes them laugh; I think they’re missing that this is a satiric series of excess by the same guy who did Hard Boiled, Robocop, and Dark Knight Strikes Again.)

Heh.

I don’t understand why there even has to be swearing in comics that aren’t labeled for mature readers. Only idiots who have no imagination and a basic understanding of the English language resort to such language. If it is a book that features people who are stupid and can only think of such language in trying to get a point across, then make it a mature book, like the Vertigo line. My LCS smartly keeps all the Vertigo and other mature titles behind the counter away from the young readers.

and they dropped the COMIC BOOK CODE AUTHORITY beacause…..they could censor themselves?

who huh wha?

So if Batgirl would of said GODDAMN than no one would have a problem with it? I’m not the Catholic Church going nut ten years ago but the term GODDAMN BATMAN