You are so ignorant…

Come back when you learn something. Until then, we don’t wanna hear from you.

No, she wants money for the extended copyright. The pension and health insurance was not to pay for that. (For one thing, those rights didn’t even exist when the pension began.)

She has something of value, and wants money for it. That’s what money exists for.

Now, there’s certainly a case to be made against the concept of inheritance. However, I’ve found that people seem to believe in it much more in the third person (”it’s wrong for that person to inherit”) than in the first person (”it’s wrong for me to inherit”). So, Shannon, are you forswearing any inheritance of any form?

You are an ass. And that’s MY final word on it.

Good thing that’s not what happened at all….

“They made a bad initial deal, and national comics successor DC gave them another deal a few times.”

Uh…no, they didn’t. Where are you getting this stuff? DC screwed them over every chance they got. They weren’t trying to appease them at all.

“Sorry their families wont get a drop of sympathy out of me”

That’s to be expected if you’re going to spread lies and falsehoods, or at the very least don’t know what you’re talking about.

“She also didnt include his son from his first marriage in this lawsuit.”

His son died. Hard to include him if he’s not even alive (and if he hated and resented his father, odds are he wouldn’t have wand anything to do with the lawsuit). Or are we going to ignore that?

“im not going to feel bad for speaking my peace or change my mind.”

And I’m not going to feel bad for calling you out on your lies, your ignorance, and your fannish selfishness.

Except the law didn’t change retroactively. The law didn’t take away existing rights. Before the passing of that law, DC/WB would’ve lost their exclusive copyright on that material anyway. The change in law gave them more rights… really, it was a multi=billion dollar gift to companies like WB. It just didn’t happen to give rights only to them.

So what’s fair or right is DC screwing Siegel and Shuster out of their share of Superman, stripping them of creator credit for decades, and being allowed to keep the copyright indefinitely regardless of copyright expiration as set by law. And what’s fair or right is denying Siegel and Shuster’s heirs their legal rights and any compensation.

Got it.

I am not really here to throw in my opinion, as I am not sure who I really side with here if anyone. I just wanted to say to you in that in Gallaghers defense, just because something is law doesn’t make it fair or right. At the end of the day S&S sold their rights and that is all there is to it, and when laws change afterwards and do so retroactively it is not fair to the party (WB/DC) who really did nothing wrong.

After re-reading that it sounds like I am taking sides after all…

“Now you have a schiester lawyer, and two seemingly petulant individuals who did nothing to merit them making a windfall from this.”

Gallagher, I just have to ask…when are you going to acknowledge that COPYRIOGHT LAW permits the estates to reclaim ownership once the original deal expires? You have gone out of your way at every opportunity to ignore and disavow this simple fact. Why do you REFUSE (and it is refusal, no bones about it) to acknowledge that copyright law is on their side? Are you so determined to demonize the estates at all costs that the law doesn’t matter?

I believe you have that wrong, Shannon.

In my mind, Siegel and Shuster defined the comic book and invented the superhero genre of comic books. Every other superhero owes its creation to Superman and Siegel and Shuster. Several creators, like Bob Kane, have admitted that their work was a direct follow-up to the success of Superman; and, that they were hoping that lightning would strike the same spot again, and then again, and then again.

I don’t think either one of them will ever get what they deserve; but, anything they can get they have certainly earned, and should trickle down to their heirs. I’d certainly want that if it were me.

I love Superman and the rest of the Superman Universe. But, I’m more concerned about real flesh and blood people, the Siegels and Shusters.

Recently, I read an article about the creator of the Cheetah Girls books and how Disney has made hundreds of millions of dollars through movies, records, clothing, and other products. Disney gave the creator $200K initially but hasn’t paid her anything since.

This is an old story for artists working with studios. David Duchovny sued Fox because they cheated him out of X-Files profits.

Some fans forget that the comic book business is a business that has business managers just as greedy and ruthless as any other business. Those people screw the little guy over just as easily as Hillary Clinton can fabricate a story about dodging bullets faster than the Flash.

@Murray, John Smith–In an interesting side note, Action 447, the homage to “Joseph Jerome” titled “The Man who Created Superman!, had a cover date of May 1975, which meant that it appeared on newsstands around the time that Warner was working to persuade Siegel to drop his legal claim “to clear the decks for the Superman movie.” Gerard Jones, 316.

Thanks, and I hope you’ll be willing to come back and offer more commentary when new Superman/boy developments occur. Take care!