Beast justs leave me speechless (although it is pretty funny), and “Teen Wolvie” is almost as odd…

Again, I gotta pass. Not that I’ve ever read a manga book anyhow. I even passed on Batman: Death Mask. If they ever reprint it so it can be read left to right I might give it a try.

If Batman (or Star Trek, last year) couldn’t get me to try manga, nothing ever will.

I don’t like Manga and this didn’t change my mind!
But I must admit that Beast looks funny and kinda cute
Nightcrawler looks okay…
But I’ll pass!

I use to be into manga when I was a kid, but not so much any more. I’ll pass on this simply because it looks like they’re doing somekinda pretty boy manga to get girls to read comics.

That’s STILL better than Hank’s current look.

The beast….. seriously, if I wasn’t laughing so hard I might bemoan the ruining of a classic character. But Wolverine might just work and that sketch of Nightcrawler is how he should be draw.

Why don’t they just make “manga” instead of making comics in a manga style?

And since I don’t have the time to read the old article, just what is the format of these books?

got to say i really hate real comics (please dont hate me im not being mean im just trying to make a point) but this looks really good and i thing i would convert from tokyopop to marvel if they keep putting stuff like this out beast kitty and night crawler are all soo cute =^-^=

This is different…but I like it. The Totoro-Beast cracks me up, especially his tie. You can count me in for this one!

Why can’t people appreciate the merits of both manga and American comics? Is it really so rare for someone to greatly enjoy both like I do? I like Kitty’s look she reminds me of a Ko-Gal/Scene girl which is a look I’m into. Beast just made me laugh. Oh and that Moebius quote has to be one of the most pretentious things I’ve ever read.

Woo, that’s a relief. For a moment there, I didn’t think we’d see any new Wolverine projects other than his own series, his second own series, The series called Logan, the upcoming Ultimate Wolverine Origin, New Avengers, Ultimates 3, Uncanny X-Men, X-Men Volume 2, X-Force, and the upcoming Wolverine Movie starring Hugh Jackman.

Hugh Jackman, he’s playing a Canadian and he’s AUSTRALIAN. I never understand these crazy casting decisions.:)

OH yeah, why is it there’s a huge wall of Manga books at my local book store and a small section in the bottom of a row for American graphic novels?

pheww….as good as it looks…i still unable to say that Anzu is a good manga drawers..cause her “pretty boy” styles pretty much ruined Nightcrawler’s and Iceman’s Earth-616 concepts. Dunno if the manga concepts is totally new….

This gets a meh from me, even as a manga fan.

I like the Miyazaki style Beast, though. That’s about it.

So, where/when did Moebius say this? Just did a google search and the only hit that came up was a comment by a Mr.Franks on April 22 on an Newsarama article about manga-style Wolverine and X-Men.

I have always enjoyed the technical art style of manga.. But for some reason I dont enjoy what I am looking at here.. I thought Wolverine was X23 at first.. IMHO I think that Manga would do Xmen justice in a darker style. I just dont see it with lighter funny Xmen..

Most of the renditions didn’t do it for me, though I liked the reimagined Nightcrawler. I’ve enjoyed reading both comics and manga for over 20 years, and am a fan of Moebius’ art, but his comments (as quoted by comment #15) make me sad. That’s exactly how people used to talk about comic books! And his comment about dropping a “3rd atomic bomb” (which sounds like a reference to the two bombs dropped on Japan in WWII) are in very poor taste and smack of racism.

Yes! I love Beast! Marvel would be stupid if they passed up the idea of a stuffed animal of beast. Have him stuffed softly and have his fur be really soft and smooth. I would buy one. It would be a huge sale success.

wtf

I don’t like Manga myself but I like the Logan concept. It works for a young Wolverine.

Beast is ROTF funny. The rest of them are not my taste.

I might check out the Wolverine book though, as I’m curious as far as what they’ll do with his origin.

Let’s put things into perspective. Moebius is not just a respected comic artist all over the world (including Japan, where LOTS of top artists like Katsuhiro Otomo, Jiro Taniguchi and Hayao Miyazaki have already spoken about the admiration for its work), but he is also VERY sucessful comercially on its native France. His most popular work outsells any manga there! No sales envy here. He ALSO worked directly for a japanese publisher, writing the Manga Icarus with Jiro Taniguchi. So he knows more about the manga industry than ANY of you.

OK, that said we are looking at that out of context. I’m not sure about which manga he was talking about, but considering that he has in the past appreciated lots of manga (usually of the more artistic kind), I’ll bet that he was talking mostly about the crass commercial manga that makes up for 90% of the manga releases in France (and in the US, for that matter).

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Iceman looks like a hermaphrodite.

Beast’s stripes looks like a zipper!
And Vincent is supposed to be the Sabretooth analogue, yeah?

The work for Wolverine is actually quite competent. It has a strong sense of motion and personality. This could be one hell of a fight comic.

Oh man, the X-Men stuff is so horrible. Doing a Kogal cat theme for Kitty Pryde? Designing Iceman with “cold, emotionaless eyes”? Copying a dude from Vampire Knights for Nightcrawler? Copying _Totoro_ for the Beast? Did they just show the artist pictures and not let them know there was also a movie and stuff?

OEL manga constantly amazes me with the parade of hilariously incompetent shit it’s willing to try to make people spend money on – that’s why Chuck Austen went to TokyoPop when not even Marvel and DC would have him! – but this is a fantastic new low. No wonder Japanese artists look down on OEL stuff, these designs aren’t even doujinshi-caliber work.

Beast looks ridiculous.

Iceman looks like some cross between a man and woman that isn’t quite hermaphrodite either.

Seriously this junk doesn’t even belong on the travesty that is Saturday morning cartoons.

I’ve never cared for Mangna before and this surely doesn’t help. This crap just looks like the usual gender unspecific bull that is processed like anything mechanical. Where is there anything inspired, or original here?

Um, not to particularly defend Anzu or Chuck Austen necessarily, but I would avoid using the line “not even Marvel and DC would have him” as if they’re the lowest companies capable of producing decent comics. Not getting picked up by Marvel and DC in no way means an artist doesn’t have what it takes to do a good book – it means Marvel and DC don’t want him/her for whatever logical or arbitrary reason they decide. Period.

That said, yeah, Beast is way too Totoro than I’m comfortable with, rip-off-wise.

So, Kitty Pride is Nana Oosaki (Nana)? o.O’

Sometimes I think publishers try to hard to grab on to the manga craze. Even as someone who already reads a lot of manga, I have to admit I probably wouldn’t even give this a chance; the designs are too typical shoujo for me. But in the end, art aside (and it’s good art, just not my style) it all depends on how good the story is.

Now, I’m not an expert in manga nor a manga fanatic, but I can’t believe people who say they won’t even try manga. Especially when they say “Not even Batman could make them turn.”

There are fantastic original stories that people are ignoring because, what, they aren’t Star Trek or Batman? Yeah, Batman:Death Mask probably isn’t going to be very good, but Death Note is pretty damn good and is worth reading.

There are so many good comics out there that aren’t in the super hero genre, try them!

And reading the panels right to left really isn’t that big a deal if you can also tie your shoes. It takes about 3 mintues to get used to, and it’s much better than flipped art.

It’s like people who don’t watch foreign movies because they have subtitles — it just makes me angry.

Actually, I think a lot of the negative attitude boils down to the fact that the new “manga-styled” versions of the character looks nothing like the old version.

Honestly, I guess I’d be mad too, but I’ve never been a fan of superhero comics, most likely because I tried manga first. So, this is the first time these things have hit my eyes and they look pretty fine. There’s enough skill and feeling in them to make me say that I’d like to see them. It’s made me interested in the stories, so on the bright side, this is opening the story to a bigger audience. If it was horrid, that’s another thing, but the story and plot is what counts, and I’ll be looking for that.

But in all honest, the art is really quite attractive for shonen/shojo styled works. It’s a little bit “generic” but like I said, it’s passable, and the story is what counts. If it is able to do what the old storylines of Wolverine and X-Men did, coupled with decent art, it should be great.

Crap, crap and more crap…

Is it really bad whenever a new version of something comes out? It reaches a different target audience. For fans of the original they have that, it’s not intended to be yet another retelling of a classic story but something entirely different. I always enjoy new interpretations whether they work or not, someone gets to reimagine a classic icon in their own view.

Some good examples are the black Spider-Man suit, blowing up the Enterprise in Star Trek, or bringing in a new Robin after Jason Todd was killed off. Loyal fans shout sacrilage at the momennt of first seeing them and later they become a loved part of the character.

Though I do enjoy everyone being so passionate about characters they enjoy. Let the hate mail begin!

What a bunch of haters. This is just a taste of the future, wherein Eastern graphic storytelling has influence upon its Western counterpart and vice versa. In the present, where the trend in American super hero comics seems to be alternate versions and alternate universes in which the many well established characters like Spider-Man or Batman see their origins and likenesses revisited and re-imagined, this manga-influenced version of the X-Men seems not only a logical step in its progression but a positive step in the evolution of graphic storytelling as a medium. In other words, saying “I don’t like manga and I never will,” or some like comment about Western comic books, ultimately is completely irrelevant. Forget what you know and look at what’s happening, for goodness’s sake. It’s fascinating and exciting to see the X-Men treated to an Asian makeover of sorts. On that note, can’t wait to see Batman: Gotham Knight this July!

What??? I just have to cringe at Kitty wearing a Nine Inch Nails T-Shirt though.

Needs more fanservice – for both guys and gals.

Wow. I love manga, and I love US comics, but this is…horrible looking. I’m so sick and tired of artists trying so hard to make ‘manga’ and all they end up doing is throwing every disgusting, over used stereotype from the genre into it. Seriously? Kitty has kitty ears? Are we serious here?? There’s a lot more range and serous depth in manga aside from what’s there in pokemon people. It’s not all cat girls and gross over exaggerated big mouths and girl looking guys, but that’s all I ever see from these artists who are trying to copy the style, rather then be influenced by it to create something new and serious and interesting.

Also, speaking as a girl, it’s really not necessary to gross ‘bishoujo flowing hair rose petals’ xmen up to make it interesting for my gender. All you need to do is learn how to write girls realistically, instead of the ridiculous, all over the place, no idea how girls react to shit dribble we usually get, and lay off the ho looking ladies and crazy buff looking wrestler guys.

GET SOME HAIR ON WOLVERINE THIS INSTANT. STUBBLE, ARM HAIR, BACK FUR, CHEST FUR. HE IS A HAIRY BASTARD, HE DOES NOT GET SUGAR WAXES AT BODY LOGIC.

Here’s a question; will this publication be printed in traditional Marvel/DC comic book format, or in the manga tankouban, left-to-right collection of chapters?

I was already vocal many months ago when sketchs and the concepts were shown months ago .
It was awful then , its even worse now .
I’m a fan of both comics and manga , even more of manga … and yet i find the work proposed here awful .

Why ? Let’s skip over the technical facts that those arent manga … i’m sick of that debate , and sales figures of those crappy kind of hybrid kinda agrees with me .

The problem here , especially with the shojo version , arent the ideas at their core – thought i would do something quite different – the problem here is with the level of the work and designs .

It’s amateur hour . The shojo one especially looks like anything a high school girl fan of shojo , would draw while bored during math classes .

Wether its in a generic style or unique one , if you want to compete with manga , at the very least do something that looks professional .

Aslo again , i feel that you should do things differently .. bringing the asian sensibility to the comics genre doesnt mean forcibly transforming spiderman into a ninja , giving him a mecha robot , or Jean grey a magical wand … Thats actually the kind of gross stereotype that would offend most manga fans . They already got that in spades , done well , why would they care about it mocked and ridiculed with comics characters ?

Things like the actual characters without much changes , but with the manga feel , storyboards , pacing and management of actions scenes would be difference enough .

All the designs look awesome – LOVE that Beast!

You people really need to chill out – there’s room for all kinds of interpretations of these characters, and it’s not like anyone is coming over to your house to rip up all your Dave Cockrum comics and replace them with these new versions.

if you really love comic, you won’t care where it comes from. good comic is good comic, no matter what style is applied to it.

the wolverine looks alright to me — the kind you expect as a main character of a girl-oriented manga. but the kitty pride and beast are, frankly, a bit… worrying.

and don’t generalize manga. there are a lot of manga types out there, with different styles and themes. not just superheroes!

let’s suspend our judgment, wait until the comic is really published. then we can really say things about it.

I really like the Beast design and the Nightcrawler design looks nice too.

Both the new character designs for the upcoming X-Men manga and Moebius Giraud’s recent anti Japanese rhetoric are awful.If Marvel wants to cash in on the manga boom so badly they should do what DC is doing with it’s CMX imprint.Marvel should publish licensed manga under a CMX like imprint.

Marvel can also follow Stan Lee’s example and create new titles that have nothing to do with the Marvel universe and get Japanese artist to draw then.Turning Spiderman into a Kamen Rider clone,turning Iron Man into a Gundam like mech and turning Kitty Pryde into a cat girl is a crass and tawdry way of cashing in on the Manga boom.

This is awful. As a girl, I’m deeply insulted. I’m going to say it’s probably NOT going to actually have any of the appeal of shojo, it’s just going to take that crappy art, slap it on there and go “here, girls! you like this manga stuff, right?”

I think the Anzu stuff is less an attempt to cash in on the manga market, and more an attempt to cash in on the FEMALE market that manga’s opened up. What a disgusting, blatant bid to get females to buy the books. Guess what? IT ISN’T GOING TO WORK.

“Um… there is no Spider-man Kamen Rider clone or an Iron Man mech in this series. It’s just X-Men, man”

I know that. I was just trying to say that turning Marvel characters into anime, manga and sentai show stereotypes is a bad idea.

Well, i find some of these designs pretty attractive. I’m a professional illustrator with enough years of art studies, and i think several of the characters look expressive enough, and not as horribly generic as some people here have said.

It’s just a matter of taste.

As a female fan of regular x-men, as well as a shoujo manga lover, i’m gonna check ‘em out. Especially the x-men one.

““Cold, expressionless, empty eyes”. On Robert “Class Clown” Drake. Because, you see, his power is related to ice, therefore he has to be cold!”

I dunno, I don’t think ANZU knows much about X-Men, at least, not from what I’ve seen her descriptions of the characters.

Nevertheless, she’s not doing any writing for it, so it’s a moot point whether she’s an expert on the series or not. Raina and Dave are writing this, so if you want to judge based on what REALLY matters (the story) see what their ideas for the series are instead of what the artist thinks.

Normally I’m very open to try new artistic styles and aproaches in well known characters, whether they are American, Japanese, Mexican, European, etc.
But these designs SUCKS with capital S!!!! specially Totoro…er… McCoy.
I love american comic books, I like manga ( mostly shonen, mecha and lets say ” male ” stuff, no girlie b.s for me, please) I like the combination of both when they are properly executed ( Otomo on Batman comes to mind) but these….. are UGLY

From a storytelling standpoint, I don’t see this treading any new ground in an appealing way. It’s going to be a cheap effort at a regular cliche magical girl/boy story with X-Men nerdery thrown into the background dialogue instead of cliched manga nerdery. Probably high school romance reverse-harem style for girls a la Fushigi Yugi (possibly InuYasha if we are all very very lucky, and even then it will be bad), and “boy’s adventure” RPG style a la Final Fantasy for the guys. Much like the various “Bruce Li”s and “Little Dragon Lee”s of the world shortly after Bruce Lee’s death, it will not only not succeed, it can only do harm to Marvel’s reputation if it doesn’t just fade away without notice in a matter of months. This being said, I do and have read manga marketed to both men/boys and women/girls, and I can say without hesitation that a lot of manga sucks just like a lot of western comics suck (including some of “X-Men”s exceedingly long run, I don’t discriminate) regardless of target audience and gender.

The division between genders is also an odd choice for a western interpretation of manga (read: poorly thought out path of least resistance), because said split is a social construct, and the lines drawn between what is for girls and what is for boys are very different in Japan than in America.

The art itself isn’t bad; it’s perfectly decent as far as manga-style goes. The “Wolverine” series stuff looks less annoying than the X-Men stuff, and I’m a girl, so I guess that marketing already failed. …but it’s all just a deadly, deadly trap! I refuse to touch Wolverine-centric stuff because it invariably sucks. However, the stylization of the characters in both series feels like the artist is trying to give an impression of very shallow bits and pieces of Japanese culture, so that it seems like a “real” manga– which is just cultural snobbery, but whatever, it is an issue– but I feel like I’m expected to squeal in Japanese to describe the characters, and be thrilled at the inclusion of “accuracy”. Super obnoxious, especially in the “X-Men” designs! I may be a girl nerd, but I am actually a nerd, not just for comics. -5 “Femme Points”.

Money-wise, I can only see the trendy kids who only like manga even giving the series a second look if it was under a different title with different mutant characters (like New Mutants or X-Factor) and released in black and white graphic novel format instead of colorful monthly.

It’s funny how all these “fans” are jumping the gun on this project, being so sure it won’t succeed and it’ll suck, etc etc whiny etc. All that’s been shown for it is the basic premise and the character designs, nobody (except the respective writers) know what will happen in it. So, just wait until it comes out to judge it and, you know, whine about it some more.

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manga is better than ameri-comics

manga is better than ameri-comics

Beast? It’s look like “Teddy” XD
Tamara is not with a manga design.
I think Nightcrawler is the best.

I know there’s people out there that actually dig this idea, they just don’t want to proclaim it in forums in fear of being harrassed by the crazed manga-hating comic nerds.

# Ayanami Says:
May 7th, 2008 at 9:35 am

“It’s funny how all these “fans” are jumping the gun on this project, being so sure it won’t succeed and it’ll suck, etc etc whiny etc. All that’s been shown for it is the basic premise and the character designs, nobody (except the respective writers) know what will happen in it. So, just wait until it comes out to judge it and, you know, whine about it some more.”

Not only is the cover a swipe, but this is Marvel proving they don’t have an identity anymore.

They will employ hack artists who aren’t afraid to steal work left and right all day long, and worse, THEY ENCOURAGE IT.

This isn’t even good looking manga, it’s a joke.

I love to come back x-men past 4?

Beast is ROTFLOLOL funny. I’m not a big pop-comics type, whether it’s Naruto or X-Men (though as a queer woman I sympathize with the premise of X-Men quite a bit), but as far as “standard” commercial manga-style art goes this is pretty good. I think Logan is captured pretty well, albeit with a dash of gruff adorableness that’s not always there in the less stylized images of him (like by David Mack and such). And Nightcrawler is wiry… wasn’t he always wiry? Interesting how more shonen and more shojo styles are mixed pretty liberally here.

I’d just caution the creators not to get -too- cliched with loads of fanservice and such. Let’s not have X-Men devolve into an action-oriented harem manga, or anything silly like that. Poppy as X-Men is, it has some real, thoughtful meat on its bones, and mangafying it is no excuse to skim over that meat. :3 But yeah, good times!

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