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April 15th, 2008 at 9:10 am
AWESOME… OK, can anyone see now why I was underwhelmed over the news of the new Brave & Bold cartoon series?
Fine, make that show for the kiddies. No problem. But how about spinning off Gotham Knight into a new show for Adult Swim on Cartoon Network? If it does well, they definitely should. Or at least make a sequel DVD. The only prerequisite is keeping Kevin Conroy onboard.
April 15th, 2008 at 10:15 am
KEVIN’S BACK. YES!
And I totally agree, there should be a Batman anime show on Adult Swim for us older teens and adults! *Please* DC/Cartoon Network! ::begs::
April 15th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Sweet deal.
Anime and Batman, done right. This is the best combination I’ve seen since peanut butter and chocolate.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Also, forgot to mention: Deadshot.
‘Nuff said.
April 15th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Mmmm…
Now imagine watching a Gotham Knight series on Adult Swim every week, WHILE enjoying a Reese’s peanut butter cup.
Mmmm…
April 15th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Mmmm….
April 16th, 2008 at 5:43 am
Sold! This is the first I’ve heard of this. Happy now!
April 17th, 2008 at 2:59 am
“AWESOME… OK, can anyone see now why I was underwhelmed over the news of the new Brave & Bold cartoon series?”
No. And I never will.
This DVD looks like it might be good (and I say “might” because it still has to overcome the stigma of being attached to the worst comic book films of all time), but I REFUSE to give any credence to the notion that the fanboy contingecy should be the only audience for any Batman product. Adults have had a stranglehold on Batman for so long that it’s well past time kids had their chance. I don’t see why so many think they’re owed fanboy comfort food over and over again when they’ve had more than their fair share already.
More and more, this just proves Mike Manley right.
April 19th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
@Greeneclipse:
You lost ALL credibility when you called Batman Begins one of the “worst” comic book films ever. Honestly? You’re entitled to that opinion, but you’re clearly in the minority. Comic fans, moviegoers (including several I know who don’t read or even like comics) and critics alike have mostly praised the film. It rescued Batman from the embarrassingly bad films of Joel Schumacher. Would you honestly put BB in the same realm as those? Many (myself included) consider BB the BEST comic movie ever. The public’s spoken on that one, sir.
As for “Babymanley,” all his immature name-calling and pissing on adult comic fans proves who’s really being a “babyman” here. As I’ve said repeatedly, there’s nothing wrong with having a Batman for kids. My concern was over how comedic the B&B show would be, and how Bats would be handled. Someone else (not Manley) with the show commented here on how they would not be making fun of Batman, and how much respect they have for the character. That’s great! Maybe the show won’t be as bad as I initially thought. I probably won’t watch it, unless my daughter takes an interest in it, but I’m not the target audience either.
As for the “fanboys,” I’m really tired of people like using that derisive term. Get over yourself… If you’re here, taking part in this discussion, then you’re a fanboy (or girl) too. What makes my opinion any less valid than yours? If anything, the Batman seen in this trailer (and Batman Begins, and in the comics of the past two decades) is probably a lot closer to the darker tone of the original Batman than what you’re advocating.
The idea that adults “have had a stranglehold” is ridiculous. Besides toys and merchansdising, DC does publish Batman comics for kids. It’s just not easy for kids to find them. How is that the fault of adult readers that the industry doesn’t know how to cater to younger people anymore? Is it a crime to publish material that appeals to grown-ups? Can’t both exist?
In addition, you can still see Adam West’s Batman, Super Friends, and “The” Batman. And the aforementioned Schumacher films that were just plain silly. Heck, even the old Burton films were pretty goofy too (though a bit too dark for younger kids). There’s also Batman: TAS (now airing on Toon Disney) and JL/JLU. Those Timm-verse shows had a strong adult appeal and were certainly a cut above those other animated shows, but they aren’t inaccesible for children. My kid, and other kids I know, love those shows.
So stop bellyaching about how the “fanboys” have had enough “comfort food” over the years. You’ve had plenty too. Go read collections from the 50s & 60s. Maybe stuff like Batman turning into a merman, or characters like Bat-mite and Ace the Bat-hound are more your speed? Maybe you prefer Adam West, or the Schumacher films, or even “Batman Meets Scooby-Doo”? Great! If that’s what you like, go for it. Just don’t expect me, or most adult fans, to want to having everything written for the mind of a six year-old.
Do you also, as an adult, prefer reading prose books/novels written for adults, or do you opt for reruns of Wishbone on PBS Kids instead? It’s got a cute little doggie, after all! No need to have deal with all those big, hard words either. Right? Just curious.
April 21st, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Chances are few people are looking at this thread anymore, but in case Greeneclipse does read this: Take a look at the more recent post regarding DC’s new Supergirl comic being aimed at kids.
A couple of people commenting on it talk about how many of DC’s kid-friendly offerings of late seem “infantile” (the words of one of the people commenting, not me) and another commenter said that even stuff meant for kids still need standards.
I agreed with much of what those folks had to say. Too often, things intended for kids are just plain stupid, or dumbed-down. Not just from an adult point of view either. Kids are pretty savvy, and I think that’s more true than ever. If something is just too loud and silly, or talks down to children, many kids will see right through that.
And THAT was the point I originally tried to make all along when the Brave & Bold cartoon was announced. The goofy (IMO), old Dick Sprang-style art and the announcement that the show would be as much comedy as action/adventure had me questioning the show’s intent. I don’t necesarily feel the same way about it now, having read more about it, but I do question if kids who have grown up with “darker” takes on Batman will enjoy B&B or not. Only time will tell.