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What did Jack Kirby know, and when did he know it?

April 1st, 2008
Author Kevin Melrose

Jack Kirby filled his comics with a lot of futuristic, wacky and often brilliant ideas, but was he a conspiracy theorist? Kenn Thomas — a noted conspiracy theorist himself — seems to think so.

Hey, Kirby crafted the story “The Face on Mars” nearly 20 years before the mysterious rocky feature was even discovered. What more proof do you need?

"The Face on Mars," by Jack Kirby

When Steamshovel Press editor Kenn Thomas speaks on “JFK to UFO” at RetroCon, his prefatory remarks will concern “Jack Kirby, Conspiracy Theorist”. Thomas looks at the famous comic book artist’s interest in parapolitics as well as the possibilities that Kirby had back channel sources within the world of covert intelligence. Richard Hoagland speculated that the secret space program gave Kirby information leading to the artist’s 1958 comic book story, “The Face On Mars”–an anomaly that did not become part of the conspiracy lexicon until the Viking probe’s Cydonia photographs of 1976.

Thomas examines the history of this as well as Kirby’s prescient forecasts of American involvement in World War II and Vietnam; the use of conspiracy themes in his 1970s comics; and his documented involvement with a CIA rescue operation during the 1980 Iranian crisis.

Who needs Tony Stark: Futurist when you have Jack Kirby?

Although this is the first I’ve heard of the Kirby Conspiracy — where have I been? — Neatorama says it’s made the rounds in certain circles since Hoagland floated the theory a few years back.

Sure, you scoff now. But remember this when the Great Disaster strikes, and you’re running around in denim cut-offs, fighting robot gangsters, tiger pirates and giant grasshoppers: You should’ve listened to Jack Kirby.

 
17 Responses to “What did Jack Kirby know, and when did he know it?”
  1. Jake Saint Says:

    Oddly, the fighting robot gangsters, tiger pirates and giant grasshopers doesn’t frighten me as much as the running around in denim cut-offs.

    The “what did he know and when” question is a good one in this somewhat fanciful light — perhaps Kirby wasn’t just a dupe in that Iranian rescue op.

  2. ejulp Says:

    “Hey, Kirby crafted the story “The Face on Mars” nearly 20 years before the mysterious rocky feature was even discovered. What more proof do you need?”

    april fools?

  3. Kevin Melrose Says:

    Nope.

  4. Jason M. Bryant Says:

    The idea that Kirby’s “Face on Mars” proves something is ridiculous. The man created a ton of crazy stuff, some of it was bound to be similar to reality.

    I’ll think Kirby had inside info when a flying metallic man on a surfboard shows up.

  5. Bustah Says:

    Kirby was allowed to take a ride on the CIA’s time machine.

  6. Evan Waters Says:

    “Inside Info” is for the mundanes.

    Kirby received prophecies of futures past from beyond the Astral Plane. Why? Because he rocked.

  7. Matt M. Says:

    Just took the universe a while to catch up to the genius of The King is all.

  8. ejulp Says:

    Something in this has to be an April Fool’s exaggeration…but I hope its not!

  9. E Says:

    It’s no April Fool’s joke. As soon as I saw the art and began to read, I thought “someone had better tell Richard Hoagland about this”, but lo and behold, he’s the one who came up with the theory. Hoagland’s possibly a bit wacky, but he’s definitely sincere, and if we ever do find that damn face on Mars, it’ll largely be due to him.

  10. Richard Says:

    Christopher Knowles, author of Our Gods Wear Spandex, had a series of posts on his blog devoted Kirby and his seeming prescience. He finds connections between Kirby’s work, the face on Mars, alien astronauts, 9/11, the state of the world today, shamanistic dreams and creativity in general. Fascinating stuff, if you let yourself get immersed in it. Check out the posts in question here:

    http://secretsun.blogspot.com/search/label/Jack%20Kirby

    -r-

  11. c. towns Says:

    Kirby is indeed king.

  12. Fanboy Menace Says:

    Kirby also predicted virtual reality in an issue of OMAC. Like with the VR helmet and everything.

    The future is reverse engineered from Kirby’s mighty comic book kung-fu.

  13. edc Says:

    and nissan just announced their new prius was a flying golden harness, with handlebars.

    yer on ta sumthin!

  14. Michael Netzer Says:

    Here are two more examples of comics artists drawing from the timeless universal consciousness unhindered by the constraints of time, space and the traditional acquisition of knowledge.

    This was drawn in 1978:
    http://www.michaelnetzer.com/blog/fspromo_wp.jpg

    This in 1979. 15 years before Christopher Reeve fell off of a horse.
    http://www.michaelnetzer.com/archive/thenewcomicbookoflife/images/superman_1979.jpg

    There exists countless other examples all over the comics. We only need to open our eyes to see them.

  15. Rob Says:

    “But remember this when the Great Disaster strikes, and you’re running around in denim cut-offs, fighting robot gangsters, tiger pirates and giant grasshoppers: You should’ve listened to Jack Kirby.”

    OMG, I think I love you. Sorry if that’s gay.

    [But's that the best thing I've read today.]

  16. Alan Coil Says:

    Mark Evanier has said in the past that Kirby really liked to read stuff like Chariots of the Gods, so it’s no wonder he wrote some things that have apparently come true.

    The old Dick Tracy comic strip had watches that worked as 2-way communicators with pictures. That was back in the 60s, I think. Not that far removed from today’s cell phones with cameras in them.

  17. Kirk G Says:

    So, I don’t get what the point of Michael Nester’s post is. Is that supposed to be the world trade center or something? And the other one… so what if Superman is standing next to a horse’s head.

    What does this all prove?

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