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Ellis talks Marvel.

March 31st, 2008
Author Graeme McMillan

Over at Whitechapel, Warren Ellis is continuing to talk about leaving Thunderbolts and his stance on creator-owned work:

I actually had no intention of going back into WFH (work for hire). The creator owned stuff was selling to expected numbers and things were ticking along fine.

What happened was that Mark Millar and Brian Bendis got in touch — they’d hit a scheduling wall and weren’t able to service twelve issues of ULTIMATE FANTASTIC FOUR, and asked me to help them out. And when your friends ask you for a favour, you do it, you know? So I said yes, and got to work.

That’s how I ended up doing more superhero comics.

The first odd thing happened after the first issue came out. Now, remember, I’d been doing mostly original material for the previous few years, and doing fine. But I was suddenly flooded with email from kids — teenagers — who had never heard of me before. What was happening, it turned out, was that I was reaching seven or eight hundred stores at maximum, and there was anything up to a couple of thousand stores who just weren’t ordering my stuff. I remember talking this over with people at Marvel and particularly DC, and it turned out that this was in fact the case — that two thirds of comics stores really don’t order much other than superhero comics and a few licensed books. And in those years of doing my own thing, the audience had turned over to the point where there were people who’d never read a thing by me. It hadn’t been all that long ago that I’d been selling 200,000 copies of DV8 and 150,000 copies of WOLVERINE, I thought…

The second really odd thing came in some months later. Sales of TRANSMET TPBs spiked massively. And the only thing that had changed was that I was writing UFF. What had happened was that these new readers had liked UFF, gone looking for other stuff by me, found nothing in their local store, gone to Amazon or bookstores, and picked up TRANSMET books. A few months later, I saw numbers on all my other creator-owned TPBs pick up too.

And now we can sell more than 12,000 copies of CRECY in a matter of months.

And what’s REALLY strange is that I discovered Marvel under Joe Quesada and Dan Buckley is in fact a really nice place to work.

The thread also features appearances from Brian Wood, B. Clay Moore and Jonathan Hickman.

6 Responses to “Ellis talks Marvel.”
  1. Chris Says:

    “…I’d been selling 200,000 copies of DV8…”

    All which are now in the $.10 comic book bin.

    The copies of Wolverines I don’t know about.

  2. Monkey Attack Says:

    Neither the creative team, nor the publisher get a cut of the resale market on the used books, so I doubt they care that they are in the discount bin. Plus, in a collectors market (even a depressed one like comics) that could turn around at any minute. Next thing you know Sam Rami is doing a DV8 series and those books spike form $0.10 to $100. OK, that’s not going to happen, but still, you get the idea.

  3. Jake W Says:

    “Sam Rami is doing a DV8 series and those books spike form $0.10 to $100. OK, that’s not going to happen, but still, you get the idea.”

    On a related note, someone won a lot containing 2 copies of Harbinger #1 and 2 copies of Harbinger #4 for $200 a few weeks ago.

  4. Meet Dan Coyle Says:

    Just out of curiosity, has anyone ever seen Andrew Sullivan and Warren Ellis in the same room together?

  5. Joe S. Walker Says:

    Looks as if the expression “Mary Sue” strikes him a bit too close to home.

  6. Jason M. Bryant Says:

    “Looks as if the expression “Mary Sue” strikes him a bit too close to home.”

    How so? I see something where he has an opinion about Mary Sue writing, but I don’t see how it is “close to home.”

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