Comments on: What a shame http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/ Newsarama contributors share what’s on their minds. Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:19:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: John http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-353864 John Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:15:34 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-353864 That legitmate cast remark seemed to be calling out Alba she was a big reason why the movies weren't as good. Torch, Thing and Reed were all cast perfectly. Alba? Not so much That legitmate cast remark seemed to be calling out Alba she was a big reason why the movies weren’t as good.

Torch, Thing and Reed were all cast perfectly. Alba? Not so much

]]> By: FIG http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-344714 FIG Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:43:13 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-344714 Well I enjoyed both movies but felt part 2 ended in a rushed and half-assed manner since all the time was spent building up Galactus's arrival yet all we saw in the end was a big, black cloud. Talk about stupid. At least Silver Surfer was cool. It was almost as much of a let down as the fight between Hulk and Aborbing man. It just felt rushed and half-assed as an ending. I wanted to see the real Galactus from the comics despite what stupid executives would say about how silly it would look. Hate to break it to you but bringing us a family team of superheros who wear blue spandex with a big four on their chests IS a bit silly. Executives and people in charge of making financial and creative decisions for these comic movies need to realize the first people that need to be serviced are the fans. This is why movies like Hellboy and Watchmen and Sin City will succeed. They take us seriously. We are the ones non-comic fans will ask before they go see the movie despite what inane people may think. Yeah, I'm aiming my comments at those who think fans are not important. We made you, we can easily unmake you by voting with our money. Well I enjoyed both movies but felt part 2 ended in a rushed and half-assed manner since all the time was spent building up Galactus’s arrival yet all we saw in the end was a big, black cloud. Talk about stupid. At least Silver Surfer was cool. It was almost as much of a let down as the fight between Hulk and Aborbing man. It just felt rushed and half-assed as an ending. I wanted to see the real Galactus from the comics despite what stupid executives would say about how silly it would look.

Hate to break it to you but bringing us a family team of superheros who wear blue spandex with a big four on their chests IS a bit silly. Executives and people in charge of making financial and creative decisions for these comic movies need to realize the first people that need to be serviced are the fans. This is why movies like Hellboy and Watchmen and Sin City will succeed. They take us seriously. We are the ones non-comic fans will ask before they go see the movie despite what inane people may think. Yeah, I’m aiming my comments at those who think fans are not important. We made you, we can easily unmake you by voting with our money.

]]> By: hondo http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-344439 hondo Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:15:51 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-344439 I didn't expect to like the first FF at all but liked most of it except they completely and horribly got Doom as wrong as they possibly could. Reed could have shined a little more too. ROTSS was ok but not as good. Laurence Fishburne was a terrible choice for Norrin IMHO. Hopefully it gets a rest and Marvel does it better under their own banner in another 5 or 10 years. Atlantis or the Inhumans as mentioned previously, would be awesome to see. A Black Panther cameo would rock too I didn’t expect to like the first FF at all but liked most of it except they completely and horribly got Doom as wrong as they possibly could. Reed could have shined a little more too. ROTSS was ok but not as good. Laurence Fishburne was a terrible choice for Norrin IMHO.

Hopefully it gets a rest and Marvel does it better under their own banner in another 5 or 10 years. Atlantis or the Inhumans as mentioned previously, would be awesome to see. A Black Panther cameo would rock too

]]> By: rob http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-344200 rob Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:50:00 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-344200 That's too bad. Hated the first liked the second a lot That’s too bad. Hated the first liked the second a lot

]]> By: Zac http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-343917 Zac Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:10:38 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-343917 That's too bad. I enjoyed the first two. The way the last one ended with Doom sinking in the ocean, I was hoping for Namor and Atlantis attacking the surface world. That would have been cool to see. That’s too bad. I enjoyed the first two. The way the last one ended with Doom sinking in the ocean, I was hoping for Namor and Atlantis attacking the surface world. That would have been cool to see.

]]> By: Uncle Jawa http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-343653 Uncle Jawa Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:45:19 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-343653 Shaun, you are missing the point of what I said, and you didn't need to point out those comparisons, they were pretty obvious :) Just go back and re-read what I said. Shaun, you are missing the point of what I said, and you didn’t need to point out those comparisons, they were pretty obvious :) Just go back and re-read what I said.

]]> By: Horray! http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-342764 Horray! Sun, 23 Mar 2008 18:22:12 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-342764 Ding-dong, the crappy film franchise is dead! Both those movies were just gawdawful. Ding-dong, the crappy film franchise is dead! Both those movies were just gawdawful.

]]> By: Shaun http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-342744 Shaun Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:58:43 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-342744 Hey Wendell, Thanks for the kind words! I don't want to speak for the "other" Sean, but I think I understand what he meant too. Luthor could not be taken seriously, but the rest of the movie had a pretty somber tone to it. A lot of moping, or navel gazing perhaps, by Supes for instance. The Lois/Supes realationship seemed almost maudlin. It was just not a terribly fun movie to watch. Neither the serious stuff, which was too serious, nor the jokey approach to Luthor. Hey Wendell,

Thanks for the kind words! I don’t want to speak for the “other” Sean, but I think I understand what he meant too. Luthor could not be taken seriously, but the rest of the movie had a pretty somber tone to it. A lot of moping, or navel gazing perhaps, by Supes for instance. The Lois/Supes realationship seemed almost maudlin.

It was just not a terribly fun movie to watch. Neither the serious stuff, which was too serious, nor the jokey approach to Luthor.

]]> By: Wendell http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-342585 Wendell Sun, 23 Mar 2008 12:09:06 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-342585 To Shaun, about Sean's comment, concerning my post: Thank you for the clarification, because as it states in my post, “In contrast, the same light-heartedness and almost comical take on Luthor (in Superman Returns) is what killed the movie for me” ...I was referring to LUTHOR's light-heartedness and almost comical demanor, not that of the entire movie. I thank you for being more observant than the other Sean and taking the time to add your comment. To Shaun, about Sean’s comment, concerning my post:

Thank you for the clarification, because as it states in my post,

“In contrast, the same light-heartedness and almost comical take on Luthor (in Superman Returns) is what killed the movie for me”

…I was referring to LUTHOR’s light-heartedness and almost comical demanor, not that of the entire movie. I thank you for being more observant than the other Sean and taking the time to add your comment.

]]> By: Brett http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-342486 Brett Sun, 23 Mar 2008 08:44:33 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-342486 I personally can't believe that a sequel to FF even opened in the first place. I was kind of dumbfounded by the fact that people would pay to see a second one after the first one was so mind-numbingly bad. That line about "a legitimate cast" is pretty funny, though. I personally can’t believe that a sequel to FF even opened in the first place. I was kind of dumbfounded by the fact that people would pay to see a second one after the first one was so mind-numbingly bad.

That line about “a legitimate cast” is pretty funny, though.

]]> By: WarriorSmurf http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-341978 WarriorSmurf Sat, 22 Mar 2008 22:35:15 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-341978 Also, the FF films were horrible all around. They need to wait a few years and start from scratch like half of the Marvel film franchises. Also, the FF films were horrible all around. They need to wait a few years and start from scratch like half of the Marvel film franchises.

]]> By: WarriorSmurf http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-341977 WarriorSmurf Sat, 22 Mar 2008 22:32:35 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-341977 "Superman Returns was way too serious and a bad remake of the original Superman movie." Bruce, Superman Returns is the sequel to the first two Superman films. Superman 3.1 if you will set five years after Superman II hence the kid having been born. And unfortunately, they are doing another film. Bryan Singer promises to "get all Empire Strikes Back" on us, lol. We'll see about that. “Superman Returns was way too serious and a bad remake of the original Superman movie.”

Bruce,

Superman Returns is the sequel to the first two Superman films. Superman 3.1 if you will set five years after Superman II hence the kid having been born. And unfortunately, they are doing another film. Bryan Singer promises to “get all Empire Strikes Back” on us, lol. We’ll see about that.

]]> By: Shaun http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-341702 Shaun Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:32:38 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-341702 To Sean: I think the reason the other poster compalined that Superman Returns wasn't serious enough is because Kevin Spacey's Luthor was a complete knockoff of Gene Hackman's jokey Luthor... The only difference is that Spacey didn't wear a stupid Herb Tarlek (remember WKRP?) suit, and at least Spacey had the decency to go bald for the entire movie. Otherwise, they were pretty much the same. In no way would that Luthor honestly have been a threat to Superman, if the film had been written by people with a brain between them. The only reason Luthor got as far as he did is because that script really dumbed down Supes, making him more concerned about stalking his ex-girlfriend than keeping tabs on Luthor, as well as stopping to think that the museum theft, the massive power outage (which Supes could've easily traced back to Luthor's acquired home), and Luthor's being on the loose were at all related. In that repsect, it was hard to take the film seriously. To Sean: I think the reason the other poster compalined that Superman Returns wasn’t serious enough is because Kevin Spacey’s Luthor was a complete knockoff of Gene Hackman’s jokey Luthor… The only difference is that Spacey didn’t wear a stupid Herb Tarlek (remember WKRP?) suit, and at least Spacey had the decency to go bald for the entire movie.

Otherwise, they were pretty much the same. In no way would that Luthor honestly have been a threat to Superman, if the film had been written by people with a brain between them.

The only reason Luthor got as far as he did is because that script really dumbed down Supes, making him more concerned about stalking his ex-girlfriend than keeping tabs on Luthor, as well as stopping to think that the museum theft, the massive power outage (which Supes could’ve easily traced back to Luthor’s acquired home), and Luthor’s being on the loose were at all related.

In that repsect, it was hard to take the film seriously.

]]> By: Shaun http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-341694 Shaun Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:24:24 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-341694 I dunno Uncle Jawa... A team of four heroes, two of whom are married. One of whom is stretchy, one is super strong, and another turns invisble and can create forcefields? Am I talking FF, or The Incredibles? Two other little "FF" touches in The Incredibles: when little Jack-Jack "flames on," and The Underminer (at the end of the movie) reminded me of the Mole Man (or whatever his name is). I still stand by the assertion that The Incredibles is the best FF movie. :-) I dunno Uncle Jawa… A team of four heroes, two of whom are married. One of whom is stretchy, one is super strong, and another turns invisble and can create forcefields? Am I talking FF, or The Incredibles?

Two other little “FF” touches in The Incredibles: when little Jack-Jack “flames on,” and The Underminer (at the end of the movie) reminded me of the Mole Man (or whatever his name is).

I still stand by the assertion that The Incredibles is the best FF movie. :-)

]]> By: Sugarculted http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-341429 Sugarculted Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:29:32 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-341429 Eh. A bit of a shame. I know these weren't masterpieces, but I really enjoyed FF2. Norrin was the saving grace to the franchise, they did that character justice. As long as they'd continue having Chris Evans elsewhere as the Torch, then I'm happy. Eh. A bit of a shame. I know these weren’t masterpieces, but I really enjoyed FF2. Norrin was the saving grace to the franchise, they did that character justice.
As long as they’d continue having Chris Evans elsewhere as the Torch, then I’m happy.

]]> By: Uncle Jawa http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-341402 Uncle Jawa Sat, 22 Mar 2008 10:57:40 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-341402 Personally, I am a fan of the FF movies, they are not perfect by far but I think they were well-intentioned, offered good super-hero fare for younger viewers, and very entertaining. Did they completely capture the spirit of Stan and Jack? No, but that's ok, everything that Stan and Jack did wouldn't necessarily appeal to modern audiences. The X-Men movies certainly didn't remain loyal to the comic books, either, and they were huge successes. The FF movies just haven't been able to make everything click yet. The second one was the better of the two, and much closer to capturing the necessary magic. Actually, I liked FF2 more than SPIDER-MAN 3 last year (and I'm not a SPIDEY 3 hater by any means). The Silver Surfer was awesome, and I had no problem with Galactus. Personally, I blame the majority of the problems the FF movies have had on Fox. Based on interviews I've read with various people who have worked on the films, I think they've all wanted to make the big screen FF closer to the comic books but it's been the Fox execs who have fought it. Like I said, the movies don't have to be carbon copies of the comics, but they should have more of the classic vibe than what they've had. Just as a side note, I think it's completely unfair to compare anything FANTASTIC FOUR to THE INCREDIBLES. I love THE INCREDIBLES, don't get me wrong. Our three cats are named Dash, Violet and Jack-Jack :) Still, THE INCREDIBLES is a completely different animal, an animated film with a brand new concept and characters, with far more freedom to be whatever it needed to be. FANTASTIC FOUR has to draw on nearly fifty years of comic books, cartoons, etc.., and try to blend all of that to appeal to an audience that already has expectations. The majority of people had zero expectations for THE INCREDIBLES (with the exception of a small crowd of fans who were familiar with the work of Brad Bird), and if it had bombed, no one would have even blinked. I'm sorry, I just don't think it's fair. You might as go ahead and compare it THE GODFATHER, then. Personally, I am a fan of the FF movies, they are not perfect by far but I think they were well-intentioned, offered good super-hero fare for younger viewers, and very entertaining. Did they completely capture the spirit of Stan and Jack? No, but that’s ok, everything that Stan and Jack did wouldn’t necessarily appeal to modern audiences. The X-Men movies certainly didn’t remain loyal to the comic books, either, and they were huge successes. The FF movies just haven’t been able to make everything click yet. The second one was the better of the two, and much closer to capturing the necessary magic. Actually, I liked FF2 more than SPIDER-MAN 3 last year (and I’m not a SPIDEY 3 hater by any means). The Silver Surfer was awesome, and I had no problem with Galactus. Personally, I blame the majority of the problems the FF movies have had on Fox. Based on interviews I’ve read with various people who have worked on the films, I think they’ve all wanted to make the big screen FF closer to the comic books but it’s been the Fox execs who have fought it. Like I said, the movies don’t have to be carbon copies of the comics, but they should have more of the classic vibe than what they’ve had.

Just as a side note, I think it’s completely unfair to compare anything FANTASTIC FOUR to THE INCREDIBLES. I love THE INCREDIBLES, don’t get me wrong. Our three cats are named Dash, Violet and Jack-Jack :) Still, THE INCREDIBLES is a completely different animal, an animated film with a brand new concept and characters, with far more freedom to be whatever it needed to be. FANTASTIC FOUR has to draw on nearly fifty years of comic books, cartoons, etc.., and try to blend all of that to appeal to an audience that already has expectations. The majority of people had zero expectations for THE INCREDIBLES (with the exception of a small crowd of fans who were familiar with the work of Brad Bird), and if it had bombed, no one would have even blinked. I’m sorry, I just don’t think it’s fair. You might as go ahead and compare it THE GODFATHER, then.

]]> By: Jeremy http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-341285 Jeremy Sat, 22 Mar 2008 09:00:11 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-341285 Great news! That way it will lay dormant for a few years, Marvel will get back the rights and do a better movie with a better filmaker and better actors. Chilkins was almost perfect but the rest was so bad that it needs to go back to the drawing board. Great news! That way it will lay dormant for a few years, Marvel will get back the rights and do a better movie with a better filmaker and better actors. Chilkins was almost perfect but the rest was so bad that it needs to go back to the drawing board.

]]> By: Bruce http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340937 Bruce Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:14:52 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340937 "“In contrast, the same light-heartedness and almost comical take on Luthor (in Superman Returns) is what killed the movie for me” This has to be the only person in history that somebody complained that ‘Superman Returns’ wasn’t serious enough." Superman Returns was way too serious and a bad remake of the original Superman movie. How many times does Lex Luthor have to do real estate and how many times does Superman have to save Lois from something crashing. And how dumb can we be, if she knows Superman was the babies father and not know Clark is Superman. The entire movie was retarded and way overlong. There was one original plot added, his bastard son, yeah that makes sense. I hope that is one "franchise" that doesn't return ““In contrast, the same light-heartedness and almost comical take on Luthor (in Superman Returns) is what killed the movie for me”

This has to be the only person in history that somebody complained that ‘Superman Returns’ wasn’t serious enough.”

Superman Returns was way too serious and a bad remake of the original Superman movie. How many times does Lex Luthor have to do real estate and how many times does Superman have to save Lois from something crashing. And how dumb can we be, if she knows Superman was the babies father and not know Clark is Superman. The entire movie was retarded and way overlong. There was one original plot added, his bastard son, yeah that makes sense. I hope that is one “franchise” that doesn’t return

]]> By: Jack Spicer http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340664 Jack Spicer Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:33:51 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340664 I'd rather see Chris McCulloch (aka Jackson Publick of Venture Brothers fame) reboot the series: from http://www.reason.com/news/show/119655.html The Horrible Truth about Super-Science "Reason: What's a more sincere treatment of the Fantastic Four - your sociopathic and screwed-up version, or the 2005 movie version? JP: Before that movie came out, I thought the best way to do a Fantastic Four movie would be to go full on, Peyton Reed Down With Love with it. Make it take place unapologetically in 1962, us this slick over-designed world as the setting, and make it a comedy. Because those characters are ridiculous. You're never going to get a guy who stretches to be anything but wicked funny. It's a little hard for me to feel the supposed gravity of those situations they get into with a guy named Dr. Doom, for Christ's sake! I go back and forth between thinking whether or not comedy is brave or cowardice in terms of an approach to subject. I guess it depends on what you do with it. Certainly Dr. Strangelove was a form of comedic bravery." I’d rather see Chris McCulloch (aka Jackson Publick of Venture Brothers fame) reboot the series:

from
http://www.reason.com/news/show/119655.html
The Horrible Truth about Super-Science

“Reason: What’s a more sincere treatment of the Fantastic Four - your sociopathic and screwed-up version, or the 2005 movie version?

JP: Before that movie came out, I thought the best way to do a Fantastic Four movie would be to go full on, Peyton Reed Down With Love with it. Make it take place unapologetically in 1962, us this slick over-designed world as the setting, and make it a comedy. Because those characters are ridiculous. You’re never going to get a guy who stretches to be anything but wicked funny. It’s a little hard for me to feel the supposed gravity of those situations they get into with a guy named Dr. Doom, for Christ’s sake! I go back and forth between thinking whether or not comedy is brave or cowardice in terms of an approach to subject. I guess it depends on what you do with it. Certainly Dr. Strangelove was a form of comedic bravery.”

]]> By: john http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340649 john Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:27:54 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340649 I think both movies were great for what they were and the money they spent to make them. I have said it before this is comic books and when you make a comic book movie its going to be a fun exciting action movie no more no less. If your looking for something else then dont go see them. I hope they do another. I think both movies were great for what they were and the money they spent to make them. I have said it before this is comic books and when you make a comic book movie its going to be a fun exciting action movie no more no less. If your looking for something else then dont go see them. I hope they do another.

]]> By: Kent Horton http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340573 Kent Horton Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:34:26 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340573 Chris Evans was perfect as a young Torch, and I hope he gets the chance to play him again. Chris Evans was perfect as a young Torch, and I hope he gets the chance to play him again.

]]> By: silvanthalas http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340572 silvanthalas Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:34:00 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340572 I enjoyed the first two films for what they were. Maybe it's best they don't do a third simply because of how badly X-Men 3 and Spidey 3 were buggered up. I enjoyed the first two films for what they were. Maybe it’s best they don’t do a third simply because of how badly X-Men 3 and Spidey 3 were buggered up.

]]> By: thejames http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340458 thejames Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:05:16 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340458 I think Smarty has it right - Marvel's long term plans is full control and the possibility of crossovers in the movies (I think it makes sense) - they want Fox to loose the movie rights so they can move them to the Marvel Movies banner I think Smarty has it right - Marvel’s long term plans is full control and the possibility of crossovers in the movies (I think it makes sense) - they want Fox to loose the movie rights so they can move them to the Marvel Movies banner

]]> By: Kyle http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340398 Kyle Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:00:07 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340398 I think someone realized that they did Galactus for the second movie, and you're not going to find anything that tops that image of Earth about to be engulfed. Stan Lee once described the original story as "Fantastic Four Vs. God." What do you do for an encore? I think someone realized that they did Galactus for the second movie, and you’re not going to find anything that tops that image of Earth about to be engulfed. Stan Lee once described the original story as “Fantastic Four Vs. God.” What do you do for an encore?

]]> By: thequestion http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340396 thequestion Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:59:10 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340396 new director, replace the miscast jessica alba, go for a more hard scifi tone and it could be great. my kids loved both movies for what it's worth. new director, replace the miscast jessica alba, go for a more hard scifi tone and it could be great.

my kids loved both movies for what it’s worth.

]]> By: AirDave http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340294 AirDave Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:48:39 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340294 Bummer. It would be nice to see the Skrulls in a third movie after all the Skrull-like morphing in FF2, and then maybe Namor. Guess I'll just go back to reading the comics then... Bummer. It would be nice to see the Skrulls in a third movie after all the Skrull-like morphing in FF2, and then maybe Namor. Guess I’ll just go back to reading the comics then…

]]> By: nightwingoracle http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340201 nightwingoracle Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:59:55 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340201 I enjoyed the two Fantastic Four movies. They weren't great, but they were fun and Chris Evans and Michael Chiklis do a great job as Human Torch and Thing. I'd like to see a third one...without Dr. Doom, as that character has been woefully mistreated in the movies. Perhaps they discover the Inhumans in the third movie? A Human Torch/Crystal romance? And the arrival of baby Franklin Richards? I enjoyed the two Fantastic Four movies. They weren’t great, but they were fun and Chris Evans and Michael Chiklis do a great job as Human Torch and Thing.

I’d like to see a third one…without Dr. Doom, as that character has been woefully mistreated in the movies.

Perhaps they discover the Inhumans in the third movie? A Human Torch/Crystal romance? And the arrival of baby Franklin Richards?

]]> By: Sean Richardson http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340152 Sean Richardson Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:09:45 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340152 "In contrast, the same light-heartedness and almost comical take on Luthor (in Superman Returns) is what killed the movie for me" This has to be the only person in history that somebody complained that 'Superman Returns' wasn't serious enough. “In contrast, the same light-heartedness and almost comical take on Luthor (in Superman Returns) is what killed the movie for me”

This has to be the only person in history that somebody complained that ‘Superman Returns’ wasn’t serious enough.

]]> By: Joel Kelly http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340121 Joel Kelly Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:45:42 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340121 I was very disappointed with the second movie and have been disappointed all along with their treatment of Doctor Doom. I never understood their reasons for changing Doom's backstory and just making him another Green Goblin, essentially. The jokiness and unintelligible plot of FF2 - along with the deeply unfortunate absence of Galactus - left me very cold. When I see the level of care being taken (apparently) on Iron Man and the new Hulk movie, I think any further FF movies needs a new creative team desperately. I will say I've thought the casting of the FF were terrific choices. I was very disappointed with the second movie and have been disappointed all along with their treatment of Doctor Doom. I never understood their reasons for changing Doom’s backstory and just making him another Green Goblin, essentially. The jokiness and unintelligible plot of FF2 - along with the deeply unfortunate absence of Galactus - left me very cold. When I see the level of care being taken (apparently) on Iron Man and the new Hulk movie, I think any further FF movies needs a new creative team desperately. I will say I’ve thought the casting of the FF were terrific choices.

]]> By: Roy http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340120 Roy Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:42:15 +0000 http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/21/what-a-shame/#comment-340120 Now I know there's a God...:D Now I know there’s a God…:D

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