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	<title>Comments on: Animated Iron Teen, Wolverine land at Nicktoons</title>
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		<title>by: Kandi Bauer</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-406195</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 12:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I didn't like X-evo at all. But I did happen to watch the Speed Racer: Next Generation and form what I heard about it I kind of guessed about the two main characters Racer X and Speed were some how related either they are brothers or cousins. The only thing I didn't care about was that crazy Fan of Both X's and Speed's father had a robot monkey name Chimp Chimp
i had rather seen the monkey with The Adult Spritle.  Hey does any body know when the new IRon Man cartoon is going to start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t like X-evo at all. But I did happen to watch the Speed Racer: Next Generation and form what I heard about it I kind of guessed about the two main characters Racer X and Speed were some how related either they are brothers or cousins. The only thing I didn&#8217;t care about was that crazy Fan of Both X&#8217;s and Speed&#8217;s father had a robot monkey name Chimp Chimp<br />
i had rather seen the monkey with The Adult Spritle.  Hey does any body know when the new IRon Man cartoon is going to start.
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		<title>by: Coming Curse</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-339103</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sean,I understand the appeal of superhero cartoons. I'm not trying to insult people whi watch them. I am just sick of people on the internet who exaggerate how good their favorite shows are and how bad the ones they don't like are. People's preferences in cartoons are more based on which characters/premises they find interesting and which styles of animation they like. A lot of it is nostalgic based where people prefer shows they liked as a kid or show which remind them of the shows they liked as a kid. It is highly subjective. I don't see the point of being all elitist and saying &quot;90's X-men sucks and Batmas:TAS rules!&quot; Yeah, Batman has better acting and more sophisticated writing, but if that is all we care about then why watch superhero cartoons at all? Why not just watch adult dramas? I actually prefer X-men. I don't care if it's less sophisticated than Batman since It's just supposed to be relatively mindless fun. I like the frenetic pacing and the far-fetched storylines and the focus on action. But if I share my opinion on the internet someone is going to respond saying I'm an idiot and that their tastes in kid cartoons are way more sophisticated than mine.
It's fine if people want to discuss which cartoons they like politely, but look at &quot;WTF&quot;'s post. Shows he dislikes are &quot;crap,&quot; and the producers are &quot;retards.&quot; That is the kind of &quot;bashing&quot; that I was criticizing in my first post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean,I understand the appeal of superhero cartoons. I&#8217;m not trying to insult people whi watch them. I am just sick of people on the internet who exaggerate how good their favorite shows are and how bad the ones they don&#8217;t like are. People&#8217;s preferences in cartoons are more based on which characters/premises they find interesting and which styles of animation they like. A lot of it is nostalgic based where people prefer shows they liked as a kid or show which remind them of the shows they liked as a kid. It is highly subjective. I don&#8217;t see the point of being all elitist and saying &#8220;90&#8217;s X-men sucks and Batmas:TAS rules!&#8221; Yeah, Batman has better acting and more sophisticated writing, but if that is all we care about then why watch superhero cartoons at all? Why not just watch adult dramas? I actually prefer X-men. I don&#8217;t care if it&#8217;s less sophisticated than Batman since It&#8217;s just supposed to be relatively mindless fun. I like the frenetic pacing and the far-fetched storylines and the focus on action. But if I share my opinion on the internet someone is going to respond saying I&#8217;m an idiot and that their tastes in kid cartoons are way more sophisticated than mine.<br />
It&#8217;s fine if people want to discuss which cartoons they like politely, but look at &#8220;WTF&#8221;&#8217;s post. Shows he dislikes are &#8220;crap,&#8221; and the producers are &#8220;retards.&#8221; That is the kind of &#8220;bashing&#8221; that I was criticizing in my first post.
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		<title>by: Dr. Jack</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-338369</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-338369</guid>
					<description>ECSTASY &amp;#38; WHEATCAKES...

Two great tastes that taste great together!

And Shaun's right. Avatar rocks. I wish Nickelodeon would get on with season 3 as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ECSTASY &amp; WHEATCAKES&#8230;</p>
<p>Two great tastes that taste great together!</p>
<p>And Shaun&#8217;s right. Avatar rocks. I wish Nickelodeon would get on with season 3 as well.
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		<title>by: rob</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-338301</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-338301</guid>
					<description>nutreal on this. It CAN be done but do you really want to work hard enough to make Wolverine nicktoon safe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nutreal on this. It CAN be done but do you really want to work hard enough to make Wolverine nicktoon safe?
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		<title>by: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-338195</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>EDIT: ECSTASY, and WHEATCAKES!</description>
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		<title>by: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-338118</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>#35 - Jack, I think teenaged Tony will develop a crystal meth habit... Or perhaps Ecstacy? Just as long as it's not whaeatcakes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#35 - Jack, I think teenaged Tony will develop a crystal meth habit&#8230; Or perhaps Ecstacy? Just as long as it&#8217;s not whaeatcakes!
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		<title>by: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-338075</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-338075</guid>
					<description>Sorry to belabor the point, but here's a review of the new Spidey cartoon (scroll down a little) that actually answers Coming Curse's remarks better than I just did:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36055</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to belabor the point, but here&#8217;s a review of the new Spidey cartoon (scroll down a little) that actually answers Coming Curse&#8217;s remarks better than I just did:</p>
<p><a href='http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36055' rel='nofollow'>http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36055</a>
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		<title>by: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-338064</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-338064</guid>
					<description>Coming Curse, I don't know that anyone's claiming any cartoons are Shakespeare or anything... But did anyone say they had to be? Some things are just better than others. Do you prefer the original Star Wars movies or the prequels? Do you prefer Star Wars or Star Trek? If you like Star Trek, which series do you like/dislike? 

I think the fans and critics have spoken. Batman: TAS was indeed something of a watershed program. Yes, it was aimed at kids. But the show was very well written for kiddie programming (compare it to the dialogue and plots of Super Friends, for instance) and it ended up gaining a large adult following. The show even ran in prime time for a while during FOX's early days. Now compare it, or JL/JLU to what we got on &quot;The Batman.&quot; Personal tastes vary, but can you honestly say there's no difference between them?

Same is true with Avatar. Yep, it's a &quot;kids&quot; show. But it's a DAMNED GOOD kids show, and one that doesn't talk down to kids. It also doesn't insult the intelligence of adults. In fact, I'd guess many of the ideas and themes on the show go well beyond the comprehension of younger kids who might be watching the show. It's honestly been as compelling as anything I've seen on TV the past few years (aside from Lost, my personal fave). 

If you don't like it, fine. Who the hell asked you anyway? Have you followed the show pretty regularly and stayed with the storyline? It's the kind of show that rewards regular viewing, and it's the kind of show that would appeal to the kind of people who frequent Newsarama. Do you also think The Simpsons is just some stupid cartoon and not well written? No, not all cartoons are created equally. Avatar is certainly a cut above most of what's out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming Curse, I don&#8217;t know that anyone&#8217;s claiming any cartoons are Shakespeare or anything&#8230; But did anyone say they had to be? Some things are just better than others. Do you prefer the original Star Wars movies or the prequels? Do you prefer Star Wars or Star Trek? If you like Star Trek, which series do you like/dislike? </p>
<p>I think the fans and critics have spoken. Batman: TAS was indeed something of a watershed program. Yes, it was aimed at kids. But the show was very well written for kiddie programming (compare it to the dialogue and plots of Super Friends, for instance) and it ended up gaining a large adult following. The show even ran in prime time for a while during FOX&#8217;s early days. Now compare it, or JL/JLU to what we got on &#8220;The Batman.&#8221; Personal tastes vary, but can you honestly say there&#8217;s no difference between them?</p>
<p>Same is true with Avatar. Yep, it&#8217;s a &#8220;kids&#8221; show. But it&#8217;s a DAMNED GOOD kids show, and one that doesn&#8217;t talk down to kids. It also doesn&#8217;t insult the intelligence of adults. In fact, I&#8217;d guess many of the ideas and themes on the show go well beyond the comprehension of younger kids who might be watching the show. It&#8217;s honestly been as compelling as anything I&#8217;ve seen on TV the past few years (aside from Lost, my personal fave). </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t like it, fine. Who the hell asked you anyway? Have you followed the show pretty regularly and stayed with the storyline? It&#8217;s the kind of show that rewards regular viewing, and it&#8217;s the kind of show that would appeal to the kind of people who frequent Newsarama. Do you also think The Simpsons is just some stupid cartoon and not well written? No, not all cartoons are created equally. Avatar is certainly a cut above most of what&#8217;s out there.
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		<title>by: Jack Spicer</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-338030</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Will he have an Alcohol Addiction?  Or, perhaps an addiction to sugar?  Huffing?</description>
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		<title>by: Toneloak</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-337650</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-337650</guid>
					<description>Man, I hope airing these shows on Nicktoons/Nickelodeon Money allow Marvel some extra time and financial wiggle room. That'll help in giving these shows a strong foundation. 

Besides, if these shows do well. They'll be on Nick-proper in no time. 

But, I think they'll need some kind of block of action shows setup during after school hours. So, these young kids will have a time to expect these types of shows. I mean, that's how I kept up with the shows I used to watch as a kid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I hope airing these shows on Nicktoons/Nickelodeon Money allow Marvel some extra time and financial wiggle room. That&#8217;ll help in giving these shows a strong foundation. </p>
<p>Besides, if these shows do well. They&#8217;ll be on Nick-proper in no time. </p>
<p>But, I think they&#8217;ll need some kind of block of action shows setup during after school hours. So, these young kids will have a time to expect these types of shows. I mean, that&#8217;s how I kept up with the shows I used to watch as a kid.
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		<title>by: Gokitalo</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-337470</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-337470</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;Great . . . I don’t get the Nicktoon network.&lt;/i&gt;

You're probably not the only one. Which is why I think airing the two shows on Nicktoons TV is a bad idea. They would get much more exposure if they aired on Nickelodeon itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Great . . . I don’t get the Nicktoon network.</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;re probably not the only one. Which is why I think airing the two shows on Nicktoons TV is a bad idea. They would get much more exposure if they aired on Nickelodeon itself.
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		<title>by: Coming Curse</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-337334</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-337334</guid>
					<description>Man, I am sick of people bashing toons they don't like and then pretending the ones they do like are all sophisticated. If you take a step back, none of them are actually all that good in terms of writing. Avatar is good for a children's show but it definitely isn't &quot;one of the best shows on television.&quot; Same with Batman:TAS. It is a kids show which is surprisingly watchable for adults. It is not some brilliant achievement in the medium of television. It is just irritating when people try to slam shows like X-Men and Spider-Man but say that Dini's shows and Avatar are &quot;OMG SO BRILLIANT!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I am sick of people bashing toons they don&#8217;t like and then pretending the ones they do like are all sophisticated. If you take a step back, none of them are actually all that good in terms of writing. Avatar is good for a children&#8217;s show but it definitely isn&#8217;t &#8220;one of the best shows on television.&#8221; Same with Batman:TAS. It is a kids show which is surprisingly watchable for adults. It is not some brilliant achievement in the medium of television. It is just irritating when people try to slam shows like X-Men and Spider-Man but say that Dini&#8217;s shows and Avatar are &#8220;OMG SO BRILLIANT!&#8221;
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		<title>by: Jason M. Bryant</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-337326</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-337326</guid>
					<description>Batman Beyond was Teen Batman. They put another guy in the suit, but the whole project came out of an exectutive literally telling them he wanted &quot;Teen Batman&quot;. Batman Beyond turned out pretty well.

Also, someone mentioned He-Man being a grown adult. Actually, Prince Adam was a teenager. That wasn't obvious because Mattel decided to give Adam the same body as He-Man so they could use the same molds for the toy. The voice, the way the other characters treated him, and everything else about the character was meant to show him as being a teenager.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Batman Beyond was Teen Batman. They put another guy in the suit, but the whole project came out of an exectutive literally telling them he wanted &#8220;Teen Batman&#8221;. Batman Beyond turned out pretty well.</p>
<p>Also, someone mentioned He-Man being a grown adult. Actually, Prince Adam was a teenager. That wasn&#8217;t obvious because Mattel decided to give Adam the same body as He-Man so they could use the same molds for the toy. The voice, the way the other characters treated him, and everything else about the character was meant to show him as being a teenager.
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		<title>by: AdamYJ</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-337170</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-337170</guid>
					<description>Great . . . I don't get the Nicktoon network. :(</description>
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		<title>by: Craig</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-337168</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I was looking forward to WOLVERINE AND THE X-MEN, especially after that trailer that was floating around a few weeks back.  Guess I'll have to wait for DVDs or find some sort of alternated method to watch it because I don't have Nicktoons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking forward to WOLVERINE AND THE X-MEN, especially after that trailer that was floating around a few weeks back.  Guess I&#8217;ll have to wait for DVDs or find some sort of alternated method to watch it because I don&#8217;t have Nicktoons.
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		<title>by: Uncle Jawa</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-337117</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Everything we've seen of WOLVERINE AND THE X-MEN looks quite good, so I am anticipating that one.

Count me amongst the others who feel that you don't need teenage characters to appeal to teen audiences.  What happened to kids fantasizing about growing up to be big and strong?  Personally, I find that it's the adults who tend to enjoy the teenage characters as a sort of reminiscence of their youth, while teens like stories about people who are at least college age, because that is the time they are looking forward to the most.  With all of that said, I think a teenage Iron Man could in fact play well on a channel like Nicktoons and their demographic.  I think it will appeal to little kids as well as adults, at the very least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything we&#8217;ve seen of WOLVERINE AND THE X-MEN looks quite good, so I am anticipating that one.</p>
<p>Count me amongst the others who feel that you don&#8217;t need teenage characters to appeal to teen audiences.  What happened to kids fantasizing about growing up to be big and strong?  Personally, I find that it&#8217;s the adults who tend to enjoy the teenage characters as a sort of reminiscence of their youth, while teens like stories about people who are at least college age, because that is the time they are looking forward to the most.  With all of that said, I think a teenage Iron Man could in fact play well on a channel like Nicktoons and their demographic.  I think it will appeal to little kids as well as adults, at the very least.
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		<title>by: timtahoe</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-337031</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>3 things you can count on;  Death, taxes, and some fanboy calling a Marvel cartoon an 'unmitageted disaster that NO ONE will watch' before ever seeing a trailer, commercial, or really anything to base it on other than a brief description.  Super hero cartoons aren't known for their depth in general (Superfriends?  Spider-man and his Amazing friends?  Heck, the old Batman and Robin cartoons?)  Give it a chance, and if you don't like it, fine.  There's always other forms of entertainment.  Myself, I'll reserve judgement until I know it sucks, THEN I'll hammer it! =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 things you can count on;  Death, taxes, and some fanboy calling a Marvel cartoon an &#8216;unmitageted disaster that NO ONE will watch&#8217; before ever seeing a trailer, commercial, or really anything to base it on other than a brief description.  Super hero cartoons aren&#8217;t known for their depth in general (Superfriends?  Spider-man and his Amazing friends?  Heck, the old Batman and Robin cartoons?)  Give it a chance, and if you don&#8217;t like it, fine.  There&#8217;s always other forms of entertainment.  Myself, I&#8217;ll reserve judgement until I know it sucks, THEN I&#8217;ll hammer it! =)
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		<title>by: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-336907</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Glad to see another Avatar fan out there, Monkey Attack (great name!)... Now if Nick would just get on with season 3! 

I have to say that season 3 has been a disappointment to me, however, seeing how the show seemed to be leaning much heavier on goofy comedy (odd, since the show always had its share of truly funny moments), and too much time with Aang &amp;#38; Co. lying low in the Fire Nation. Hopefully things will pick up again in the second half, whenever it finally airs in the U.S. 

Either way, I hope rumors of the show's demise aren't true. I am NOT looking forward to M. Night Shamalama-ding-dong's live action version. I'd much rather have at least one more season of the show and never let that hack make it into a movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see another Avatar fan out there, Monkey Attack (great name!)&#8230; Now if Nick would just get on with season 3! </p>
<p>I have to say that season 3 has been a disappointment to me, however, seeing how the show seemed to be leaning much heavier on goofy comedy (odd, since the show always had its share of truly funny moments), and too much time with Aang &amp; Co. lying low in the Fire Nation. Hopefully things will pick up again in the second half, whenever it finally airs in the U.S. </p>
<p>Either way, I hope rumors of the show&#8217;s demise aren&#8217;t true. I am NOT looking forward to M. Night Shamalama-ding-dong&#8217;s live action version. I&#8217;d much rather have at least one more season of the show and never let that hack make it into a movie.
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		<title>by: Monkey Attack</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-336888</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Oh, and for the &quot;Why make the characters younger&quot; group, because sometimes that helps.  It's not needed, but it can help.  I think a lot of these guys are looking at the Anime/Manga numbers out of Japan, and on the imported stuff here, and wanting a piece of that younger audience.

Young kids can relate to the older characters, but sometimes they relate better to someone closer to their age.  It was the same argument Marvel used on why they where getting better numbers with characters like Spiderman that DC was with guys like Superman.  Marvel had REAL characters (hah) that lived in the world we lived in (2xhah), and had problems like us (damn you cure redhead for not noticing me).

Pokemon gets better numbers than Justice League Unlimited did.  I don't think anyone would argue that Pokemon was a better show, but it played to the audience better, and sold more ads and toys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and for the &#8220;Why make the characters younger&#8221; group, because sometimes that helps.  It&#8217;s not needed, but it can help.  I think a lot of these guys are looking at the Anime/Manga numbers out of Japan, and on the imported stuff here, and wanting a piece of that younger audience.</p>
<p>Young kids can relate to the older characters, but sometimes they relate better to someone closer to their age.  It was the same argument Marvel used on why they where getting better numbers with characters like Spiderman that DC was with guys like Superman.  Marvel had REAL characters (hah) that lived in the world we lived in (2xhah), and had problems like us (damn you cure redhead for not noticing me).</p>
<p>Pokemon gets better numbers than Justice League Unlimited did.  I don&#8217;t think anyone would argue that Pokemon was a better show, but it played to the audience better, and sold more ads and toys.
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		<title>by: Monkey Attack</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-336851</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'll hold off on hating any of the series until they start.  I thought the Anime'ed up Teen Titans was a horrible idea, but it was entertaining.  I really didn't like the &quot;The Batman&quot; with the younger, dumber feel, but while it was no Batman: TAS, it was fun to see the characters.  I also enjoyed it more as they brought in Robin and Batgirl, and even the Justice League (to a much less extent).

Hopefully the Teen Iron Man will go in more of an Ultimate Iron Man (first series) direction.  I think a super genius with some serious issues like that could be interesting.  Chances are it will be like everyone said, and just be a really simple &quot;teen with a suit&quot; thing, but that could still work.

I have to agree with the people talking about Avatar.  That is such a great show, that got pigeonholed as a kids show, so a lot of people just never gave it a shot.  I'm surprised it lasted this long.  I figured it would get the Invader Zim treatment and just disappear into the Nick vaults.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll hold off on hating any of the series until they start.  I thought the Anime&#8217;ed up Teen Titans was a horrible idea, but it was entertaining.  I really didn&#8217;t like the &#8220;The Batman&#8221; with the younger, dumber feel, but while it was no Batman: TAS, it was fun to see the characters.  I also enjoyed it more as they brought in Robin and Batgirl, and even the Justice League (to a much less extent).</p>
<p>Hopefully the Teen Iron Man will go in more of an Ultimate Iron Man (first series) direction.  I think a super genius with some serious issues like that could be interesting.  Chances are it will be like everyone said, and just be a really simple &#8220;teen with a suit&#8221; thing, but that could still work.</p>
<p>I have to agree with the people talking about Avatar.  That is such a great show, that got pigeonholed as a kids show, so a lot of people just never gave it a shot.  I&#8217;m surprised it lasted this long.  I figured it would get the Invader Zim treatment and just disappear into the Nick vaults.
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		<title>by: DaVeO</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I also enjoyed X-Men EVO, especially that second season. The new Wolverine and the X-Men looks equally good (although Storm's hair is too big) and I'm looking forward to that as well. I've enjoyed the first 3 eps of Spectacular Spider-Man too.

I think Marvel is putting out some quality animation after a long break. Iron Man, I'll wait and see since i'm not a big fan of the character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also enjoyed X-Men EVO, especially that second season. The new Wolverine and the X-Men looks equally good (although Storm&#8217;s hair is too big) and I&#8217;m looking forward to that as well. I&#8217;ve enjoyed the first 3 eps of Spectacular Spider-Man too.</p>
<p>I think Marvel is putting out some quality animation after a long break. Iron Man, I&#8217;ll wait and see since i&#8217;m not a big fan of the character.
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		<title>by: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-336735</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>No, Buried Alien, Tony will have one of those really bad teen mustaches that more resembles dirt on the lip. :-)

I just swiped a USA Today off a table in my work's lunch room and read another article about this. Sounds like the Wolvie/X-Men show won't be as teens. At least, it didn't seem to suggest that. I'm hoping the new X-Men show won't be too derivative of Evolution and be more &quot;adult&quot; than Iron Man will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Buried Alien, Tony will have one of those really bad teen mustaches that more resembles dirt on the lip. <img src='http://blog.newsarama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I just swiped a USA Today off a table in my work&#8217;s lunch room and read another article about this. Sounds like the Wolvie/X-Men show won&#8217;t be as teens. At least, it didn&#8217;t seem to suggest that. I&#8217;m hoping the new X-Men show won&#8217;t be too derivative of Evolution and be more &#8220;adult&#8221; than Iron Man will be.
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		<title>by: Roy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Iron Teen? Yeesh...

As for X-Men: Evolution, it was so cool, it made the Fox version (bad animation, BTW) look like deer turd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iron Teen? Yeesh&#8230;</p>
<p>As for X-Men: Evolution, it was so cool, it made the Fox version (bad animation, BTW) look like deer turd.
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		<title>by: Buried Alien</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Will teen Tony at least have that macho mustache?</description>
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		<title>by: Venus</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-336562</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well, that sucks.

I was really interested in these series, but I don't have Nicktoons nor can I afford it at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that sucks.</p>
<p>I was really interested in these series, but I don&#8217;t have Nicktoons nor can I afford it at this point.
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		<title>by: TheMaxx</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-336556</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don't know I could never get into X-Men Evolution, especially after learning all I knew about the X-Men through the original carrtoon.  The thing that made the original such a classic is that the animation looked like it came from the comic, and the stories were pulled directly from the comics for the most part.  For me, any other X-Men cartoon falls flat for the most part because the standard has been set so high.  I do hope that the new Teen Iron Man is based more off the Ultimate Universe Tony stark with his crazy regerative ability.  That would be awesome to see in a cartoon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know I could never get into X-Men Evolution, especially after learning all I knew about the X-Men through the original carrtoon.  The thing that made the original such a classic is that the animation looked like it came from the comic, and the stories were pulled directly from the comics for the most part.  For me, any other X-Men cartoon falls flat for the most part because the standard has been set so high.  I do hope that the new Teen Iron Man is based more off the Ultimate Universe Tony stark with his crazy regerative ability.  That would be awesome to see in a cartoon.
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		<title>by: Eric S</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/03/18/animated-iron-teen-wolverine-land-at-nicktoons/#comment-336534</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Count me in as pro X-Men Evolution. I'd be interested in Iron Teen or whatnot, but I don't get Nicktoons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me in as pro X-Men Evolution. I&#8217;d be interested in Iron Teen or whatnot, but I don&#8217;t get Nicktoons.
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		<title>by: Shaun</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Byron, one difference between Nicktoons and Boomerang is that at least Nicktoons is putting new content on that channel, and it sounds like these Marvel shows are an effort to bolster. It's still mostly reruns of old Nick stuff, but no entirely. &quot;The Secret Show&quot; (which I think might be a UK import?) is one example of a new show, exclusive to Nicktoons.

Another difference is that, in certain timeslots, Nicktoons actually shows commericals. Boomerang has never done that, so far as I know. While I don't enjoy commericals, it's another sign that Nicktoons has a higher profile than Boomerang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Byron, one difference between Nicktoons and Boomerang is that at least Nicktoons is putting new content on that channel, and it sounds like these Marvel shows are an effort to bolster. It&#8217;s still mostly reruns of old Nick stuff, but no entirely. &#8220;The Secret Show&#8221; (which I think might be a UK import?) is one example of a new show, exclusive to Nicktoons.</p>
<p>Another difference is that, in certain timeslots, Nicktoons actually shows commericals. Boomerang has never done that, so far as I know. While I don&#8217;t enjoy commericals, it&#8217;s another sign that Nicktoons has a higher profile than Boomerang.
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		<title>by: Shaun</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Third that. 

It wasn't the DC Timm-verse, but it was loads better than just about any other comics-based show I've seen. The dialogue was realistic, the characters well-rounded and the storyline compelling. I just had to get used to the characters as (mostly) teens. Once you got past that, it was pretty good.

I think it was better than any of Spider-Man shows that have ever been made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Third that. </p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t the DC Timm-verse, but it was loads better than just about any other comics-based show I&#8217;ve seen. The dialogue was realistic, the characters well-rounded and the storyline compelling. I just had to get used to the characters as (mostly) teens. Once you got past that, it was pretty good.</p>
<p>I think it was better than any of Spider-Man shows that have ever been made.
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		<title>by: kalorama</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I just wanna go on record and say that I think X-MEN EVOLUTION was one of the best interpretations of the X-Men I’ve ever seen — on TV or comics. Pretty much the opposite of an “unmitigated disaster,” and certainly not “crap.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Second that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I just wanna go on record and say that I think X-MEN EVOLUTION was one of the best interpretations of the X-Men I’ve ever seen — on TV or comics. Pretty much the opposite of an “unmitigated disaster,” and certainly not “crap.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Second that.
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