The Detroit News reports that comics retailer Michael George was found guilty of shooting his wife 17 years ago in the back room of their comic book store in Clinton Township, Mich.:
George was accused of shooting his wife, Barbara, in the head on July 13, 1990, and making the crime look like a robbery. The jury found George guilty of first-degree murder, felony firearm, insurance fraud and obtaining money from an insurance agency under false pretenses.
The four-man and eight-woman jury began deliberations Friday afternoon after listening to the testimony of nearly 50 witnesses in the trial that drew national media attention.
George is owner of Comics World in Windber, Pa., and co-founder of the Pittsburgh Comic-Con.
It’s the stash. Everybody should have seen this coming.
Comment by WASHBURN — March 17, 2008 @ 8:14 pm
about 99 times out of 100 the husband is guilty if:
1) he has a girlfriend before the murder occurs
2) murder happens in a location husband would be familiar with (home, work, etc)
3) husband leaves state within year of murder
4) husband remarries girlfriend within year of murder
5) husband does not participate/cooperate with law enforcement’s search for killer
again 99 times out of 100 the hubby is guilty if these 5 criteria are met
where was this guy’s grief over the his wife’s murder if he is innocent?
where was his crusade to find the murder?
His anger at the miscarriage of justice?
There was none because he killed her and ran out of MI as quickly as possible.
A true, true scumbag.
Comment by dan — March 17, 2008 @ 8:15 pm
The evidence of his guilt is pretty spurious. A witness claims that he talked with George on the phone? How would he remember such a thing 17 years later? I don’t remember the day of the week that someone called me last month, fer chrissakes. However, it’s almost certain that his mother’s memory would be accurate: “yes, he was at my house the night his wife was killed” — that’s a Kennedy/Challenger moment for her.
The idea that someone can be convicted based on the testimony of witnesses when there were no actual witnesses to the crime and it happened 17 years ago? It’s laughable.
Dan, you’re right, though: he probably did it. Thing is, there’s no effing way he should have been convicted. There’s no justice in such a verdict; it shows a systematic injustice, even if it happened to hit the right guy this time around.
Comment by Old Timey Usenet Hack — March 17, 2008 @ 8:31 pm
The important thing here is that the Pittsburgh Comic-con lives on. I mean, where else am I gonna get to see that guy who played that one robot in that old 70’s show. Or Dawn of the Dead (original, NOT remake) zombie extra #18?
Not to mention, be able to buy copies of Jim Lee (sans Uncanny) X-Men comics for the low price of 12 dollars a pop(!)?
(seriously though this is a little shocking, and it almost makes me want to go to the Pittcon this year. I said almost…)
Comment by Erech — March 17, 2008 @ 8:44 pm
Coming from Michigan, I’m not suprised at all, “Old Timey Usenet Hack”.
Born and raised there, they have one effed up justice system IMO. We’re talking about a state that habitually lets intentional criminal acts off the hook, while accidental 1st time offenders get the book thrown at them. I’m sure it happens nationwide, I know now living in Florida that Florida is pretty whacky as well, but I don’t really have much respect for how they do things from my homestate.
Course, it’s entirely possible and plausible that it’s that way everywhere, and the whole freaking systems is just that messed up…..
Anthony L
Comment by Anthony Lucynski — March 17, 2008 @ 8:47 pm
That’s too bad. My encounters with George were nothing but plesant friendly
I wonder what this will do to the Pittsburgh convention now that the worst case scenario has occured?
JWSJr.
Comment by jshirleyjr — March 17, 2008 @ 8:56 pm
I’m glad he’s in jail, but I’m upset that it took so long. Sometimes the justice system really is blind and it’s disappointing that it took so long to throw him in jail. Murder is unforgivable and I hope each night in jail is hell.
Comment by Mike — March 17, 2008 @ 8:56 pm
That’s too bad. My encounters with Michael George were nothing but plesant friendly
I wonder what this will do to the Pittsburgh convention now that the worst case scenario has occured?
JWSJr.
Comment by jshirleyjr — March 17, 2008 @ 8:57 pm
Kryponian elders proclaim
GUILTY…..GUILTY…..GUILTY
Send him to the phantom zone
Comment by face on mars — March 17, 2008 @ 9:06 pm
This is not a surprise.
And yes the “GUILTY…..GUILTY…..GUILTY” scene poped in my head too.
Comment by David — March 17, 2008 @ 9:09 pm
OK, is it just me, or does this guy look a lot like Steve Carrell?
Comment by Jda178 — March 17, 2008 @ 9:13 pm
If Steve Carrell was a murderer with a porno mustache, then yes.
Comment by Erech — March 17, 2008 @ 9:17 pm
Interesting. I’ve been following it in the Macomb Daily, and it was hard to see which way the jury was going to go.
Comment by jedifish — March 17, 2008 @ 9:27 pm
So how long until they make “Unconventional: The Michael George Story?” Sounds perfect for a Lifetime Movie of the week.
Comment by Ian L. — March 17, 2008 @ 9:44 pm
Like I said I though this would happen. The defense had the “Strange fake-bearded-man” did it theory but I didn’t buy it.
Comment by David — March 17, 2008 @ 9:47 pm
What a shame, all the way around this. Awful crime. Families probably hurting all around, some for ages now, others just beginning.
I wonder if they can appeal? But I doubt it would hold.
Comment by Erool Flynn — March 17, 2008 @ 9:52 pm
Worst. Article. Ever.
(sorry, had to be done)
Comment by dwain — March 17, 2008 @ 9:59 pm
It would be awesome if his cellmate’s name were Ridgely Andrew.
Comment by Brian — March 17, 2008 @ 10:15 pm
Excellent work, Brian. Took me a little while to get that one.
Comment by Warren — March 17, 2008 @ 10:26 pm
This message is for the person who posted the third message. I know the guy who testified that he talked to the killer on the phone the day of the murder; he had called his comic store near the time of the murder to ask about some books. Michael George answered and briefly talked with him before rushing of the phone. My friend thought this was odd, because he was a regular of the shop. Upon hearing a few days later that the wife was murdered and that Mr. George claimed not to be at the shop near the time of the murder, he went to the Clinton Township police department and filed a report stating what I have written above. When the case was reopened, my friend was contacted by the police in regards to his statement from years ago. That’s how he can remember what happened almost 18 years ago.
Comment by john tessmer — March 17, 2008 @ 10:36 pm
Still pretty spurious, John. Who’s going to answer the phone when the store’s closed and he’s either murdered someone or is planning to do so? Nobody who’s that stupid could possibly get away with a crime for that many years.
Occam’s Razor suggests, rather, that your friend has misremembered the date or time of the call, even a few days later.
Comment by Old Timey Usenet Hack — March 17, 2008 @ 10:52 pm
Maybe it was a Skrull?
Comment by Will — March 17, 2008 @ 11:02 pm
All of the believers of Michael George…Check out Dateline in a few months.
Guilty of 1st degree murder today as well as insurance fraud.
The legal process does work.
Comment by aab — March 17, 2008 @ 11:05 pm
In response to comment #21.
You obviously don’t know how this works. The man filed his testimony at the police station. He signed a statement saying that what he said was true. So years later they simply pull out that statement and say, “do you still affirm that what you reported 17 years ago is accurate?” And the witness reads the statement and confirms it.
I had to do this after helping apprehend a drunk driver, and that’s how it went down.
Points for Occam’s Razor, though…
Comment by bigdaddyhub — March 17, 2008 @ 11:30 pm
Well… my experiences with him and his wife, as a vendor at their show once was pretty negative. I remember them being pretty unpleasant to deal with. That being said.. i would never want anyone to suffer for a crime they didn’t commit. Well, it looks like a jury did think he committed the murder as well as the insurance fraud. And am I the only one who finds it odd that both he and his wife/mistress didn’t testify. I know damn well if I was on trial for murder, I would want to defend myself and clear my name. Can’t say for sure he did it or not - I haven’t heard or seen the evidence, but 12 of his peers did and they seem to think he did it.
Comment by Mike — March 17, 2008 @ 11:47 pm
A couple of comments have been deleted. Try to keep it civil, please.
Comment by JK Parkin — March 18, 2008 @ 12:01 am
In response to comment #21.
That struck me as odd too.
Times remembered/not remembered and verdict aside,
who the heck answers the phone at a shop where they are ready to murder someone or already have?
Why voluntarily timestamp yourself at a place where you committed a horrible crime there?
That doesn’t add up.
Comment by John — March 18, 2008 @ 12:10 am
If you’ve never sat on a Joury during a trial you can’t possibly experience the full breadth of what the Jury has to consider. The second best would be to read the entire transcript but that doesn’t get you the inflections in the witnesses.
I would imagine that the phone records backed up the witness’ testimony. This wouldn’t have derailed the defense if he hadn’t insisted he wasn’t there at all.
And YES, most criminals ARE caught simply because they did one stupid thing.
Comment by Ray Feighery — March 18, 2008 @ 1:41 am
My condolences to the surviving family members.
Comment by Dhaise — March 18, 2008 @ 2:02 am
“You obviously don’t know how this works.”
Oh, I think I have a pretty good idea how this works; I’ve worked the courtroom beat. But thanks for being snide and dismissive. It’s always appreciated, as is the chuckle.
Comment by Old Timey Usenet Hack — March 18, 2008 @ 2:20 am
Why would someone about to commit a murder answer the phone? In the pre-caller ID days, it would actually make more sense for a would-be murderer to answer the phone, just to make sure it wasn’t something that would interfere with his plans.
Comment by Azor — March 18, 2008 @ 2:24 am
I know what caused this.
That accursed global warming. I know it’s true, it’s been repeated a million times. I stand in my 5 foot of snow in front of my parents house and I yell: “Curse you, GLOBAL WARMING!”
Comment by Alex R — March 18, 2008 @ 2:25 am
From the Detroit News article:
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Following the verdict, defense attorney Joe Kosmala questioned the jury’s decision, given what he said was a lack of evidence. Former Macomb County Prosecutor Carl Marlinga, who also defended the case, was out of town Monday.
“I have been doing this for 35 years and I have never ever second-guessed a jury, but I am doing it in this case,” Kosmala said.
“If the evidence on the record in this case is what passes for evidence of first-degree murder in Macomb County … every man, woman and child in this country and in this county should be scared to death of their government.” Kosmala said he and Marlinga will file motions in the next few weeks challenging the jury’s verdict.
—
From the Free Press:
“I’ve never second-guessed a jury, but I’m doing it today,” Kosmala said. “There was zero, zip, nada evidence. It’s outrageous.”
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That’s a pretty damning condemnation by any lawyer.
And the more I read about this, the more I think that Michael Renaud (the witness) has made an error. Not that it matters: one time-and-place witness does not make for evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. Not even close.
I’m sending $100 to his legal defense fund.
Comment by Old Timey Usenet Hack — March 18, 2008 @ 2:30 am
Usenet Hack:
Were you at the trial? Because if you were not there to hear the testimony, you really can not say for sure whether this man is guilty or not.
I can’t say for sure, either. But, the people on the jury who heard the testimony, and looked at the evidence all agreed.
Whether or not you agree with it, that is how the system works. Sure, there are people who are later found not guilty of crimes that they were convicted for, and that is a shame.
But, doesn’t he get the chance to appeal his conviction? Let’s wait and see what happens next, if anything….
Comment by Ron Thibodeau — March 18, 2008 @ 2:44 am
I can make a pretty good guess, Ron, based on the appalling lack of evidence reported in the media. If someone shows me better evidence, I’m happy to look at it. I don’t draw conclusions based on evidence that has not been presented to me.
(In addition, the claim that the jury was better-suited to make a judgment and that one should appreciate that judgment is a logical fallacy.)
As an aside, I’m surprised to find any comic book reader who is satisfied with the system, given that bucking the legal system is the plot point that is most central to the origin of the artform.
Comment by Old Timey Usenet Hack — March 18, 2008 @ 2:52 am
Ron, you’re talking all sensible and realistic. You’re even using logic, and seem to have a basic knowledge of the legal process.
What are you doing on the internet?
Comment by Dev — March 18, 2008 @ 5:18 am
Usenet:
The article linked above mentions that there were 50 witnesses at the trial who testified. 12 of them were for the defense. I can assume the other 38 were for the prosecution.
As you said, you may find that ONE witness may not be reliable, but what about the 37 others who testified on behalf of the prosecution…?
And as for your final comment–just because I read comics doesn’t mean that I don’t also see ‘reality’, too.
DEV: your comments made me smile/laugh.
Thanks.
Comment by Ron Thibodeau — March 18, 2008 @ 5:30 am
Having worked in the Criminal Justice System (here in the UK) myself, I have seen how difficult it can sometimes be for juries to make decisions, to the point that they are discharged, or verdicts are returned that one really can’t follow.
For a jury to make this decision, on murder, I would expect the evidence to be pretty compelling, but of course there’s always the question of what the jury, by incompetence or design, haven’t been told.
Miscarriages of justice do happen, it’s true, but I believe one has to have faith in the jury system to make the right decision based on the evidence they are given. Second-guessing juries is like the first step on the road to anarchy.
Comment by Red Russell — March 18, 2008 @ 7:36 am
Spurious! I’ll tell you how I know he didn’t do it, because clearly I did it! I’ll be donating all the money I stole from him all those years ago to his legal defense fund!
Comment by Old Timey Usenet Hack — March 18, 2008 @ 8:07 am
Azor-
Caller IDs were commercially and cheaply available before 1990. Now I’m not suggesting that Michaels did or didn’t have one, but it was at least possible for him to have one at his store.
Comment by Rich D — March 18, 2008 @ 8:21 am
Ha I wrote median instead of media!
What a fool I am too!
Comment by justme — March 18, 2008 @ 9:19 am
For those interested in the dynamic of a jury room, Twelve Angry Men is a wonderful film. It’s true that it’s a movie but it does a good job portraying the idea that juries are comprised of imperfect people who can be swayed.
I think Jean Loring did it
Comment by Chris — March 18, 2008 @ 10:08 am
It’s interesting that most of these trial reports have registered no comments have been generated, and not that there’s a verdict, there’s a ton comments with not a little care given to them. Most of you know what I know, what we read from the articles. All admitted was circumstantial evidence (dozens of witnesses or no), no physical evidence, no eyewitnesses, in defense against all the non-family character witnesses Michael George’s own daughters on his side. I’ll echo Red above that you have to trust that the jury took all the weak pieces shown them and overcame reasonable doubt, but anymore than that and we really don’t know enough to say.
Comment by hcduvall — March 18, 2008 @ 10:17 am
Like I said in previous blogs about this court case, the guy should’ve pulled up stakes and “ran for the hills” (Canada?), when he was put out on bail after being arrested 17 years later.
What kind of evidence was found to convict this guy, after so much time had passed? Anyone have any details?
Comment by snikt snakt — March 18, 2008 @ 10:19 am
It was probably some thug. Those people are sneaky.
Comment by John — March 18, 2008 @ 11:52 am
I would think(and hope) that this wouldn’t have even be brought to trial after 17 years if the D.A. didn’t think there was a chance of a conviction.
As for what the Defense Attorney said maybe he thought the evidence was weak but the jury disagreed with him it what I could tell was a fair trial.
Comment by SWelch — March 18, 2008 @ 11:53 am
To Old Timey Usenet Hack:
Of COURSE the defense attorney said this was a travesty of justice, he’s never seen a case like this, blah, blah, blah… that’s what defense attorneys do. They try to make a case for their client’s innocence, even after the fact, at least if there’s going to be an appeal (or a chance of one). It’s a way of “prepping” for the appeal by making his case in the media now when potential appeals jurors can still hear it. I wouldn’t take the words of a defense attorney as the truth; he’s just saying what he’s being paid to say.
Comment by Seriously — March 18, 2008 @ 12:32 pm
Murder is bad.
Comment by john layman — March 18, 2008 @ 12:51 pm
Who wants to buy a blood spattered copy of Crime SuspenStories? I know I would!
THE ULTIMATE COLLECTIBLE!!
Comment by Jimbo — March 18, 2008 @ 12:53 pm
I can think of quite a few supposedly witty comic book related jokes here, but somehow it doesn’t seem all that proper to me, you know, this involving a real death and all.
But maybe it’s just me.
Comment by Roy Batty — March 18, 2008 @ 2:17 pm
I want to see him sprung from jail, comic book style now!
Comment by Erool Flynn — March 18, 2008 @ 2:29 pm
“I can think of quite a few supposedly witty comic book related jokes here, but somehow it doesn’t seem all that proper to me, you know, this involving a real death and all.
But maybe it’s just me.”
The truth.
Comment by Lance — March 18, 2008 @ 2:52 pm
I couldn’t have said it better myself.
Comment by Lance — March 18, 2008 @ 2:54 pm
Poor Steve Carell.
Comment by Andrew R — March 18, 2008 @ 5:26 pm
“I can think of quite a few supposedly witty comic book related jokes here, but somehow it doesn’t seem all that proper to me, you know, this involving a real death and all.
But maybe it’s just me.”–Oh come off it. You don’t know anyone involved. They don’t know you. Most likely, they’ll never see what any of us post here. Sheesh. Grow a damn sense of humor.
Comment by Jono11 — March 18, 2008 @ 9:40 pm
As someone who did business at this criminals store back in the day, this convinction to me is long overdue justice.
I was one of the 100 people contacted/tracked down by the detectives for a chit chat about the “Good old days” or in the case of dealing with this murderer the “not so good old days”.
If you weren’t spending oodles of cash on his overpriced stuff you were scum. I saw firsthand how he and his deceased wife intereacted with each other first hand, and even a blind man could see that the marriage wasn’t happy. But I figured “none of my business”. Also it was obvious to even a blind and deaf man that this murderer was having an affair with Renee. One of his inner circle of friends and flunkys even commented once that Renee’s husband at the time wanted one of the kids blood tested since he had some doubts.
I shopped at the store briefly as soon as it was reopened after the murder and heard the details and saw the store for myself. The cash register was the exact same as always, hence no one tried to break into it for money, none of the display cases that contained the higher valued comics were broken into, none of the display contents were changed or altered, and when I heard that his deceased wife still had her wallet and jewelry on her, and that some hi valued comics were claimed to be stolen I knew the tale of a robbery was pure garbage. No way to prove it of course. So I went and transferred my membership first to one of his franchise locations and then went to another store altogether. However I did hear how another regular made that call and spoke to him around the time frame of the murder and how his inner circle of pals would hush up any mention of it being spoken in their presence and even to the point of getting a bit threatening to those that talked about it. I also saw this murder flirt with clientele and his bizaare behavior at the memorial.
Also other recent articles in the news indicate that as the cops were taking this murderer to the hospital, per the detectives testimony, this murderer stated “something must have fallen on her while she was in the backroom” yet the cops never told him they found her in the backroom. Now how could an innocent man know of such a detail without being told by the cops? That verbal slip plus the phone call from the regular customer I suspect are what finally nailed this murderer.
Rot in Prison Mike. Its the least you deserve.
Comment by "Bob" — March 18, 2008 @ 9:42 pm
Here is a listing of stuff that came out at the trial
1. had an affair back in his insurance days
2. Had an affair with a comic shop employee who is now his wife.
3. no emotion shown at funeral, used shades to conceal his eyes, no history of optical problems/disease.
4. hugged a woman and flirted with her at the funeral a few feet from the casket, flirted with same woman again when she and son came to store after all this
5. phone call ties him to the store in the time frame of the murder
6. had a higher valued insurance policy on his wife at the time then he did on himself. (typically the breadwinner, in this case himself, carries the higher policy)
7. plenty of evidence of unhappy marriage
8. refused to support attempts at posting a reward for information that would lead to arrest/conviction
9. not very cooperative with the cops back then about the investigation
10. relocated from store where murder committed to set up another location as his main store
11. two years after the murder, his mistress has split from her husband, marries Mike and they split for Pennsylvania
12. Neither Mike nor former mistress now current wife Renee take the stand….5th amendment makes a nice refuge doesn’t it?
13. wallet and jewelry still on body of the deceased, plus NO SIGNS AT ALL of forced entry or rushed exit from the store, plus the cash register and all display cases were undamaged, thus putting major doubt to the robbery story
14. defense claims that someone was “out to get Mike George and got his wife instead”…yet this man goes to another state and sets up a rather public business and founds a major comic convention…seems like for a man with a bullseye on him that to open such a public business is just asking for someone “out to get you” to come and get you doesn’t it?
Comment by "Bob" — March 18, 2008 @ 10:06 pm
let me add to the last comment
15. if your old wife was murdered in your comic book store, and you knew the killer was still out there (and still out to get you) would you EVER let your new wife work alone in your new store…Renee worked by herself alot that I can remember
16. knowing the killer was out there wouldn’t you keep posting that list forever trying to track down them to find the trail back to the killer…i know every flaw on every comic in my collection (especially the valueable ones) i would be able to spot them if they were stolen, inconclusive in a court of law but I would know that that one was mine enough to ask “hey were did you get that” especially if I owned a convention that brought dealers from all over to my venue…mike never mentioned it EVER and was too busy running around like a big shot to examine comics.
HE did it, too many people never mentioned this because after his convention started they were making too much money off him…that money was blood money, you should all have spoken up earlier…what is that quote about “good people doing nothing”?
AND WHAT ABOUT RENEE???
PLEASE???
you get divorsed, you sugar daddy’s wife gets murdered on his birthday, you know nothing was taken, you marry him, you move with your 5 kids and his 2 to escape the past….you really telling me you did not know? enjoy everything barbs bloody money got you…hope he doesn’t kill you too on conjugal visit day…
hummmmm….what is the perfect gift for your sugar daddy lover who is unhappy with his wife on his birthday???
you guys do the math
Comment by face on mars — March 18, 2008 @ 11:04 pm
17. Mike’s mother states he came over with the kids and proceeded to take a nap on the couch. Yet she then leaves with the kids who are aged 4 and 2 at the time, to go to the park….thus NO ONE THERE can say with 100% certainty that Mike was indeed home napping on the couch the time his wife was murdered. Plus his mother’s recollection of the time he arrived and went to nap has changed a bit over the years, the kids are too young to recall the time of arrival at the house as well as how long they were gone.
We have the phone call from the regular customer that places Mike in the store within the time frame of the murder.
testimony from detectives involved in the case state that Mike made a bad verbal slip while riding to the hospital. They told him she was injured. On the ride there Mike comments that “something must have fallen and hit her in the backroom”….cops never told him she was found in the backroom….
Defense can try to divert suspicion all they want, but go back and look at the facts including his verbal slip on the ride to the hospital and the phone call that places him at the store in the time frame in question…..
Guilty.
Comment by "Bob" — March 18, 2008 @ 11:43 pm
http://www.candgnews.com/Homepage-Articles/2008/03-12-07/CC-GUILTY.asp
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080317/NEWS04/80317063/1006
http://jimsmash.blogspot.com/2008/03/michael-george-found-guilty.html
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080317/METRO/803170458/1361
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/15622982/detail.html
http://www.macombdaily.com/stories/031808/loc_00024.shtml
Comment by "Bob" — March 18, 2008 @ 11:51 pm
Glad you’re happy that the guy is guilty and justice is served, but you should leave Renee and his kids out of this. Best to watch your own Karma now, instead of wishing ill will on someone else. Justice is served, right?
And you’d best not judge people who made money around Pittsburgh Comicon as blood money– fuck that. Everyone around Pittsburgh had NO IDEA about the guy’s past– but if you want some enemies, sure, go ahead, lambaste the GOOD comic book community there. Believe me, everyone was shocked to hear the news.
Comment by Bustah — March 19, 2008 @ 12:11 am
I was a vendor at the show in previous years… and had no idea about any of this until he was arrested, so it’s hardly blood money. Looks like he did it, and he’s getting what he deserves. As for the mistress/wife… wow… how long until she’s brought up on conspiracy charges? and is she really planning to show her face at the show this year? and any pro’s that attend this year should be ashamed of themselves… on second thought, maybe not. The family of the deceased can sue in civil court and get all the assets.. so in a perverse sort of way, i hope the show does gangbuster business. I do feel bad for the kids… it’s a shame they have to deal with daddy being a cheating, murdering scumbag… and finding out that mom’s not much better.
Comment by Mike — March 19, 2008 @ 12:48 am
listen bustah, read what I said…PEOPLE WHO KNEW about this and continued to do his show were making bloody money…if you did not know then it was not blood money, but for every dealer who did his show and are now going to say, oh yeah I knew about that, yeah i knew he did it 17 years ago, but what the hell I made good money at his show, those are the “good people doing nothing” that I referred to….and no not everyone who went to the show, knew nothing…obviously renee knew, most old dealers in detroit knew , anyone who read the CBG story in 1990 knew. they had a warm blanket of well the police didn’t charge him so i guess he is not guilty.
BUT
anyone who thinks that this show is now clean of blood money and that his conviction washes the the shows hands clean is kidding themselves, renee and mike still own the show, his picture still graces the front page of the webpage, their store is still the host, renee is still out there handing out flyers, no formal proclamation has been made to distance the show from mike has been made…when the show makes money this year it will go for his appeal
or the civil suit defense fund.
go to the main page right now-
http://pittsburghcomicon.com/
anyone who goes there this year shares alittle in the blood money starting now…you now know, you can’t have a clean conscience, mike still owns the show, just doesn’t run it, renee still owns it and runs it, i saw her handing out flyers for it last year.
we know now mike and renee started the show and the store with the money they got from barb’s death, the show has gone on for 14 years without most people knowing…what do you do now, now that you know?
hell we were all screaming boycott wizard because they knew about caps death and profitted…i think this is a little more serious than that!
Comment by face on mars — March 19, 2008 @ 7:21 am
AND BUSTAH I NEVER MENTIONED THE KIDS
Comment by face on mars — March 19, 2008 @ 7:25 am
oh oh oh i just thought of a great costume for the pittsburgh comicon costume contest…michael in leg irons and cuffs in his prison jump suit, who wants to grow that cheesey mustache???
Comment by face on mars — March 19, 2008 @ 7:26 am
‘Oh come off it. You don’t know anyone involved. They don’t know you. Most likely, they’ll never see what any of us post here. Sheesh. Grow a damn sense of humor.’
Oh, so it’s ok to laugh at somebody’s death and to not care about his/her family’s grief, as long as we don’t know anyone involved. That’s rich. Very humane from you.
Just let me know when you lose someone to death, so I can sneer and make jokes at it. Hey, I don’t know you, do I? Why should I care for your grief?
I really hope you are just very young and foolish, as opposed to in your immature thirtysomething.
Whatever.
Sometimes I am afraid we’ve got just the comic book industry and market we deserve.
Comment by Roy Batty — March 19, 2008 @ 10:45 am
Saying people going to the Pittsburgh Comicon is now giving to blood money is foolish. They’ll maybe have to sell the convention off… that’s just an idiotic thing to say– people have livelihoods and business to go about doing. It is sad he did a bad thing 20 years ago, and now he’s paying for it, but life goes on— under your justification for “blood money” — you might want to stop paying taxes to the US government though, you know how many bombs your bucks have dropped on kids heads in iraq? Or sent soldiers off to die? — see? That’s a ridiculous argument– so shut your piehole about blood money…. ALL MONEY IS SOMEBODYS BLOOD MONEY.
Comment by Bustah — March 19, 2008 @ 12:37 pm
PIEHOLE…listen until they sell it off it i blood money…history deems war crimes by the outcome of the war…outcome has come down, mike is a cold hearted ruthless KILLER who did it for the insurance money, then opened a new store and started a convention with it…it was all fun and games until you NOW realize that that blood money is what started the convention and kept it going until it caught on. I am sure their were alot of nice germans who gave a buck or two to that nice hitler guy in 1937, and even voted for him because of the changes he said he was going to make….in 1945 they had to live with their choice, and pittsburgh goers will have to live with theirs this summer…and unless you know something we don’t about gareb shammus (wizard), or michael goldman (motorcity comicon), or whoever own NYCC and SDCC, then I would have to say going to those conventions is alittle easier on the conscience. But as long as renee is cashing the checks, and that money is paying for an appeal, my money WILL NOT be going to Pittsburgh Comicon.
The front page of pittsburghcomicon.com still has michael george’s name and picture on it…I DO NOT see them putting much distance between them and a convicted killer!
Comment by face on mars — March 19, 2008 @ 4:06 pm
Seriously, knock it off.
Comment by JK Parkin — March 19, 2008 @ 6:49 pm
The Pittsburgh Comic-Con SUUUUUUUUUUUCKS. I did that show once in 1995 and again in 2005 and it was the worst show I had ever done in my entire life. In 1995 the people doing the show gave the dealers FREE McDonalds and Burger King for lunch. Now what does that tell you? I wouldn’t doubt the guy killed his wife, he was probably taking a huge loss from that stupid show.
Comment by Todd — March 19, 2008 @ 7:38 pm
And that’s a wrap. Delete, delete … and comments are closed.
Comment by JK Parkin — March 19, 2008 @ 8:29 pm