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	<title>Comments on: Directors, release date revealed for Gotham Knight</title>
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		<title>by: dudedarama</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-317331</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 01:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The audio was recorded before the animation so..how is bale not batman in this?</description>
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		<title>by: brett</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-314689</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-314689</guid>
					<description>Nope, no New Teen Titans: Judas Contract for the forseeable future. Anyone care to start a petition.</description>
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		<title>by: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-314623</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-314623</guid>
					<description>Black Panther: No one forced you to read this blog entry or post a comment. Personally, Batman's my favorite character and I assume a lot of other people agree. You don't like Batman, ignore it and move on to something else. Too bad the book whose name you're using isn't as good as it used to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Black Panther: No one forced you to read this blog entry or post a comment. Personally, Batman&#8217;s my favorite character and I assume a lot of other people agree. You don&#8217;t like Batman, ignore it and move on to something else. Too bad the book whose name you&#8217;re using isn&#8217;t as good as it used to be.
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		<title>by: B&#124;ackPanther</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-314499</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-314499</guid>
					<description>Enough of Batman already.</description>
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		<title>by: dust</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313987</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313987</guid>
					<description>Why is there no mention of the novelization of this? The novel version of this movie is written by Louise Simonson and is supposed to come out sometime before the DVD. I wonder why they don't mention it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is there no mention of the novelization of this? The novel version of this movie is written by Louise Simonson and is supposed to come out sometime before the DVD. I wonder why they don&#8217;t mention it?
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		<title>by: SYLAR WESKER</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313858</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313858</guid>
					<description>why cant I still post in comic book bulletins on this site? I have signed up for it plenty of times and am still waiting for authorization !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why cant I still post in comic book bulletins on this site? I have signed up for it plenty of times and am still waiting for authorization !
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		<title>by: Nate</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313811</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313811</guid>
					<description>So, I'm guessing that Teen Titans: The Judas Contract isn't happening anymore. I mean, I haven't seen one mention of it since Superman/Doomsday came out. Bummer, of all of them, I was looking forward to that and New Frontier the most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I&#8217;m guessing that Teen Titans: The Judas Contract isn&#8217;t happening anymore. I mean, I haven&#8217;t seen one mention of it since Superman/Doomsday came out. Bummer, of all of them, I was looking forward to that and New Frontier the most.
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		<title>by: Cray_ws</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313749</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313749</guid>
					<description>&quot;When it comes to animated movies, each frame costs money. At 24 frames per second, for a 90 minute movie, you're looking at an additional 21,600 frames of animation. So going for those extra minutes is cost prohibitive.&quot; 

Exactly. This isn't Warner Bros deliberately being cheap. Its about weighing the cost vs the sales outlook. Spending more does not equate more sales. Especially if a company can make 2 different films for the price of one film with longer running time.

Those 21,600 frames of animation is roughly about the same as 10,000 pages of comics. What's the going page rate for artist? That's a lot of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When it comes to animated movies, each frame costs money. At 24 frames per second, for a 90 minute movie, you&#8217;re looking at an additional 21,600 frames of animation. So going for those extra minutes is cost prohibitive.&#8221; </p>
<p>Exactly. This isn&#8217;t Warner Bros deliberately being cheap. Its about weighing the cost vs the sales outlook. Spending more does not equate more sales. Especially if a company can make 2 different films for the price of one film with longer running time.</p>
<p>Those 21,600 frames of animation is roughly about the same as 10,000 pages of comics. What&#8217;s the going page rate for artist? That&#8217;s a lot of money.
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		<title>by: Batmite79</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313716</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313716</guid>
					<description>One thing that people need to take into consideration when whinging about the time is that animated movies - with far bigger budgets, designed for the big screen which have far bigger audiences - are generally under 80 minutes.

When it comes to animated movies, each frame costs money.  At 24 frames per second, for a 90 minute movie, you're looking at an additional 21,600 frames of animation.  So going for those extra minutes is cost prohibitive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that people need to take into consideration when whinging about the time is that animated movies - with far bigger budgets, designed for the big screen which have far bigger audiences - are generally under 80 minutes.</p>
<p>When it comes to animated movies, each frame costs money.  At 24 frames per second, for a 90 minute movie, you&#8217;re looking at an additional 21,600 frames of animation.  So going for those extra minutes is cost prohibitive.
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		<title>by: Shaun (a different one)</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313707</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313707</guid>
					<description>&quot;All the content from the 2-disc Special Edition DVD will be available on Blu-ray Disc for $34.99 SRP.&quot;

If I can find it for less than SRP, I might go with Blu-ray just for fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All the content from the 2-disc Special Edition DVD will be available on Blu-ray Disc for $34.99 SRP.&#8221;</p>
<p>If I can find it for less than SRP, I might go with Blu-ray just for fun.
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		<title>by: Robert</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313619</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313619</guid>
					<description>Wonder if the Blu-Ray will feature the same bonuses as the 2 disc set?</description>
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		<title>by: brett</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313571</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313571</guid>
					<description>WB put Judas Contract on hold because -- get this -- they don't think too many consumers know about the Titans. Of course, the fact that WB put out a Teen Titans hit television series that ran for over 4 seasons is irrelevant. Just more proof of the lack of competance from people running things behind the scenes at Warner Bros. So, no New Teen Titans Judas Contract will be released for the forseeable future... and I have that confirmed by a very reliable source...Get your pens and paper ready and start mailing the WB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WB put Judas Contract on hold because &#8212; get this &#8212; they don&#8217;t think too many consumers know about the Titans. Of course, the fact that WB put out a Teen Titans hit television series that ran for over 4 seasons is irrelevant. Just more proof of the lack of competance from people running things behind the scenes at Warner Bros. So, no New Teen Titans Judas Contract will be released for the forseeable future&#8230; and I have that confirmed by a very reliable source&#8230;Get your pens and paper ready and start mailing the WB.
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		<title>by: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313553</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313553</guid>
					<description>Good points all... I guess I'd just like to see something a little more &quot;epic&quot; in the DCU animated line. I still think this could be great regardless. Looking forward to it!

Also potentially good: The press release mentioning animated films in the works for WW, Flash and GL. Hopefully they'll take their time to make these really, really specatcular. 

&quot;Justice League&quot; is also mentioned as &quot;in development.&quot; What's up with that?  I'm hoping that the the live action JL never gets made, but I'd love a new animated movie with the Timm-verse JL cast. Maybe throw in a few of the bigger guns from JLU as well. 

No mention of The Judas Contract... Wasn't that supposed to be coming soon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points all&#8230; I guess I&#8217;d just like to see something a little more &#8220;epic&#8221; in the DCU animated line. I still think this could be great regardless. Looking forward to it!</p>
<p>Also potentially good: The press release mentioning animated films in the works for WW, Flash and GL. Hopefully they&#8217;ll take their time to make these really, really specatcular. </p>
<p>&#8220;Justice League&#8221; is also mentioned as &#8220;in development.&#8221; What&#8217;s up with that?  I&#8217;m hoping that the the live action JL never gets made, but I&#8217;d love a new animated movie with the Timm-verse JL cast. Maybe throw in a few of the bigger guns from JLU as well. </p>
<p>No mention of The Judas Contract&#8230; Wasn&#8217;t that supposed to be coming soon?
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		<title>by: Brian Knippenberg</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313547</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313547</guid>
					<description>It's not an uncommon running time for animated features. Anywhere from 75-80-84-88 or 90 minutes. Walt Disney's Bambi has a 70 minute running time. Disney/Pixar's Toy Story is only 80. It's rare to see anything over 90 minutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not an uncommon running time for animated features. Anywhere from 75-80-84-88 or 90 minutes. Walt Disney&#8217;s Bambi has a 70 minute running time. Disney/Pixar&#8217;s Toy Story is only 80. It&#8217;s rare to see anything over 90 minutes.
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		<title>by: Sean Richardson</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313482</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313482</guid>
					<description>&quot;It’s budget reasons. For some reason DC has decided these are more cost-effective at 75 minutes vs. 90.&quot;

Presumably, these are intended to be televised at some point.  At 90 minutes, stuff would have to be cut out to fit into a two hour block with commericals.  75 gives them room to add a few more commercials than usual [30-minute shows are 20-21 minutes now, and 60-minute shows are between 40 &amp;#38; 42].</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s budget reasons. For some reason DC has decided these are more cost-effective at 75 minutes vs. 90.&#8221;</p>
<p>Presumably, these are intended to be televised at some point.  At 90 minutes, stuff would have to be cut out to fit into a two hour block with commericals.  75 gives them room to add a few more commercials than usual [30-minute shows are 20-21 minutes now, and 60-minute shows are between 40 &amp; 42].
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		<title>by: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313471</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sure, the Pixar ones count! They're great!</description>
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		<title>by: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313465</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313465</guid>
					<description>Bummer about no Bale... That would've been cool. Looks like IMDB, which is where I believe someone here said they got the info, is wrong. 

Still very odd that there's no mention of voice casting for something that's going to be out in a just a few months. Compare this to the New Fronier hype, where they've been touting the cast for months.

It's crucial they get a good actor for Bats/Bruce. Any chance at all that they'd get Kevin Conroy? I'm sure he wouldn't turn down the chance to do the role again. I doubt many fans would complain either. :-)

Hearing good things about Jeremy Sisto in New Frontier, so he might be good too even though this will be different than that movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bummer about no Bale&#8230; That would&#8217;ve been cool. Looks like IMDB, which is where I believe someone here said they got the info, is wrong. </p>
<p>Still very odd that there&#8217;s no mention of voice casting for something that&#8217;s going to be out in a just a few months. Compare this to the New Fronier hype, where they&#8217;ve been touting the cast for months.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s crucial they get a good actor for Bats/Bruce. Any chance at all that they&#8217;d get Kevin Conroy? I&#8217;m sure he wouldn&#8217;t turn down the chance to do the role again. I doubt many fans would complain either. <img src='http://blog.newsarama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hearing good things about Jeremy Sisto in New Frontier, so he might be good too even though this will be different than that movie.
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		<title>by: Joe Lawler</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313432</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It's budget reasons. For some reason DC has decided these are more cost-effective at 75 minutes vs. 90.</description>
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		<title>by: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313414</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>No... I guess I don't watch many short films. Do the added shorts on Pixar DVD's count? :-)

My point here, however, is that the DCU animated films have been really short so far. People have complained that the Supes: Doomsday and JL: New Frontier movies are too short and leave a lot of the original books out. This is a different animal than those two movies, but even a single storyline here might've been a short. Now figure six stories over 75 minutes and... Well, we'll see. Like others, I don't know why they can't do these at a 90-minute or more feature length.  

I've never seen Animatrix, though I've heard good things. Perhaps it's worth seeing before Gotham Knight comes out, at least to get me used to the idea. That said, given &quot;feast for the eyes&quot; vs. a good story I'll take the good story every time. As long as the art is decent, I want a story that will hold up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No&#8230; I guess I don&#8217;t watch many short films. Do the added shorts on Pixar DVD&#8217;s count? <img src='http://blog.newsarama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My point here, however, is that the DCU animated films have been really short so far. People have complained that the Supes: Doomsday and JL: New Frontier movies are too short and leave a lot of the original books out. This is a different animal than those two movies, but even a single storyline here might&#8217;ve been a short. Now figure six stories over 75 minutes and&#8230; Well, we&#8217;ll see. Like others, I don&#8217;t know why they can&#8217;t do these at a 90-minute or more feature length.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never seen Animatrix, though I&#8217;ve heard good things. Perhaps it&#8217;s worth seeing before Gotham Knight comes out, at least to get me used to the idea. That said, given &#8220;feast for the eyes&#8221; vs. a good story I&#8217;ll take the good story every time. As long as the art is decent, I want a story that will hold up.
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		<title>by: Batguies</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313404</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313404</guid>
					<description>World's Finest reported that Bale won't be voicing Batman:

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news.php?action=fullnews&amp;#38;id=71</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>World&#8217;s Finest reported that Bale won&#8217;t be voicing Batman:</p>
<p><a href='http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news.php?action=fullnews&amp;id=71' rel='nofollow'>http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news.php?action=fullnews&amp;id=71</a>
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		<title>by: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313397</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You don't watch a lot of short films, huh, Shaun? Animated shorts let directors really cut loose and experiment with style in a way that would be cost-prohibitive in features, so while the stories are often a bit slim, they're often a feast for the eyes. It's a decent trade-off, in my opinion.

The Animatrix, for instance, has a couple of absolutely phenomenal shorts (my favorites were the 14 minute Beyond and the 10 minute World Record; both are available through iTunes). If even one of these shorts is  NEARLY as good as those two, it'll be worth the rental.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t watch a lot of short films, huh, Shaun? Animated shorts let directors really cut loose and experiment with style in a way that would be cost-prohibitive in features, so while the stories are often a bit slim, they&#8217;re often a feast for the eyes. It&#8217;s a decent trade-off, in my opinion.</p>
<p>The Animatrix, for instance, has a couple of absolutely phenomenal shorts (my favorites were the 14 minute Beyond and the 10 minute World Record; both are available through iTunes). If even one of these shorts is  NEARLY as good as those two, it&#8217;ll be worth the rental.
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		<title>by: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://blog.newsarama.com/2008/02/26/directors-release-date-revealed-for-gotham-knight/#comment-313323</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm a little disappointed that the running time for this will (again) be a mere 75 minutes... What's the deal with this DCU animated projects? This actually a bit worse in this case, since we're talking six different stories. Not a lot of time for *any* of them.

In spite of that, and in spite of not being an anime fan, this looks too good to pass up. I'm just not interested in the New Frontier movie (But then, I didn't like the original books either), but this Batman project looks really sweet. 

Has it been confirmed that Bale's going to be voicing Bats? Interesting that nowhere does this press release discuss the voice talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little disappointed that the running time for this will (again) be a mere 75 minutes&#8230; What&#8217;s the deal with this DCU animated projects? This actually a bit worse in this case, since we&#8217;re talking six different stories. Not a lot of time for *any* of them.</p>
<p>In spite of that, and in spite of not being an anime fan, this looks too good to pass up. I&#8217;m just not interested in the New Frontier movie (But then, I didn&#8217;t like the original books either), but this Batman project looks really sweet. </p>
<p>Has it been confirmed that Bale&#8217;s going to be voicing Bats? Interesting that nowhere does this press release discuss the voice talent.
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