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Something old, something new

January 10th, 2008
Author Tom Bondurant

Grumpy Old Fan

Lately I’ve been struggling with the notion that I am too nostalgic. Of course, I remember when I was just nostalgic enough. Good times, good times….

Sorry. Moving on.

I did like the first issue of Amy Wolfram and Karl Kerschl’s Teen Titans Year One. It was mostly a Batman/Robin story which, intentionally or not, did a clever riff on both the G-ddamn Batman and the classic Titans-team origin.* Naturally, I appreciated the nods to Titans history (wow, the Flips!), but on a more basic level I just liked seeing the original Dynamic Duo in action — with a yellow-oval Batman, yay! I’m similarly looking forward to the other mentor/protege relationships.

TTY1 isn’t merely a retro exercise, as its use of instant-messaging indicates. However, I also don’t think it’s meant to be the new, “definitive” origin of the Titans in the manner of, say, “Nightwing Year One,” Superman: Birthright, or JLA Year One. TTY1 is its own story. Maybe it’s part of the marketing push for the new New Teen Titans reunion series (together with the “Lost” Teen Titans Annual), but odds are it’s not a direct lead-in to that series. Therefore, TTY1 is most likely not “canon,” at least not yet … although apparently AOL’s Instant Messenger (the app of choice for any Time-Warner character) first appeared in 1997, ostensibly within DC’s compacted 10-12-year timeline.

That’s the thing, though, about retelling stories grounded in the Silver Age: because those comics weren’t constructing a continuous narrative, there’s a lot more wiggle room, even without taking into account various timeline-changing events. The Silver Age bookends-and-specials event from a few years back paid lip service to the changes in DC continuity, but it didn’t have to work around a lot of established facts … because by that point, they’d become somewhat less established. By contrast, “Nightwing Year One” (serialized in Nightwing #s 101-06) had to fit within the well-known (and still valid) events of “The Judas Contract” and thereabouts, and it did a pretty good job. Again, though, TTY1 doesn’t appear to be the same kind of continuity-oriented gap-filler as those other story arcs. It reminds me more of something you’d see in the Classified or Confidential titles, not that any of those are long for this world.

As you can imagine, then, I’m a little disappointed that JLA Classified is being cancelled, with the others probably not far behind. To me, there’s nothing wrong with stories set in the past which don’t directly influence the present. While the “real” League tore itself apart and put itself back together (slowly, to be sure), JLAC was a steady dose of World’s Greatest Heroes action. I didn’t see any reason why it couldn’t have been a retro title permanently, since focusing on various historical memberships was supposed to be its purpose. DC never seems to do well with the retro books, though, and it frustrates me.

It’s not that I don’t like the present; but it seems like the Big Two spend a lot of time and effort balancing progress and familiarity. The classic elements never stay away for too long, and their reintroductions tend to involve lots of continuity gymnastics. In that light, flashbacks never struck me as particularly objectionable, or even like a consolation prize. Marvel’s even had some success with ongoing retro titles like X-Men: The Hidden Years and Untold Tales Of Spider-Man, but again, DC hasn’t.

It’s even more frustrating because all of DC’s time-twisting reboots and tweaks have created gray areas in the characters’ histories, thereby giving DC some small advantage when it comes to retro stories. For example, Superman Confidential can run another version of his first meeting with the Forever People** because it falls within the post-Crisis Superman’s gray area and is thus easier to integrate into continuity.

Of course, that assumes you need the stories to fit snugly into continuity, and that gets us back to a given story’s underlying purpose. Obviously DC doesn’t mind the timing of that Superman Confidential story — especially since it incorporates Orion and Kalibak and has more fights in the streets of Metropolis — because its current big-event crossovers involve the New Gods pretty heavily. However, taken out of the event context, the S. Conf. arc looks like a less-expensive, less-involving alternative to four hardcover volumes’ worth of the original Jack Kirby. In other words, the message seems to be that if you just want some Fourth World Cliffs Notes to help make sense of Countdown and/or Final Crisis, read Superman Confidential. After all, that’s the story which probably “counts” more.

But I digress. Even if DC could attract enough readers to these retrospective books, there are logistical problems with telling too many backwards-looking stories. DC’s gray areas might give it more opportunities, but Marvel has a better command of its shared-universe history. Its dots are more easily connected.

DC history is more multiple-choice. Let’s say Batman Confidential was relaunched as an in-continuity gap-filler along the lines of Hidden Years. Maybe its gap-fillers would feature more early appearances of Hugo Strange, the Monk, and the Joker, which in turn would take their cues from the events of Matt Wagner’s Dark Moon Rising miniseries and Ed Brubaker & Doug Mahnke’s The Man Who Laughs. Those latter stories were designed specifically to revisit the Golden Age originals, so they’d form a natural foundation for a retro-styled Batman book.

Nevertheless, The Long Halloween and Dark Victory also loom large over the early years of both Batman and Robin, and I’m sure All-Star Batman does nothing to clarify matters for uninitiated readers. That’s the big problem with the concentrated focus on “Year One” — nobody wants to do Years Two, Three, etc., anymore. (Appropriately enough, the Batman “Year Two” and “Year Three” stories have been pretty well ignored for a while.) Karl Kesel and Dave Taylor did about as good a job as a fan could want in their year-by-year World’s Finest miniseries, several years ago, and JLA: Incarnations was likewise pretty fun. Such projects are few and far between, though; and apparently with good reason. I’d love to read “untold stories” of a younger Batman and Robin, circa the mid-’70s — I have an irrational affection for the old Wayne Foundation tree-in-the-middle building — but I’m probably the only one. Aside from the perils of choosing the right esoterica, continuity can be a minefield of fan assumptions and logic traps. Marvel might have had more in-continuity gap-fillers, but as we’ve seen, its history can be a pretty fragile construct.

Good thing, then, that DC’s got all those gray areas. Good also that Teen Titans Year One is off to a fine start. I hope it’s received well enough to encourage similar retrospectives — not just because I’m a sucker for nostalgia, but because a flashback doesn’t need all those continuity gymnastics.

* Told first in Teen Titans vol. 1 #53 and in more detail in Secret Origins Annual #3. Basically, the origin involves the Justice League being mind-controlled and the sidekicks teaming up to free their mentors … but you knew that already, I’m sure.

** Originally from Forever People #1, and since retold in Jack Kirby’s Fourth World #20; and maybe somewhere else in the late ‘80s/early ‘90s Superman books, but I can’t remember.

 
14 Responses to “Something old, something new”
  1. Aaron Poehler Says:

    I wouldn’t cite X-Men: The Hidden Years and Untold Tales Of Spider-Man as examples of how Marvel’s retro titles are more successful than DC’s since neither even went for 30 issues and JLA:C is topping 50. If anything, DC retro titles have generally done much better: Legends of the Dark Knight went for over 200 issues, after all, and even Legends of the DC Universe went over a year longer than either X-Men: The Hidden Years or Untold Tales Of Spider-Man.

  2. Squashua Says:

    I have a question b.c I guess I just wasn’t exposed to the older material, but is Wonder Girl some kind of slut/whore or is she just so innocent that she falls for every guy she looks at? I read Year One last week and I read the Lost Annual this week and 3 second into the Annual, after some make-out and potentially something off-panel, EVERYONE is referring to this dude she possibly hooked up with off-panel as her “Lover”, which obviously back in the intended Silver Age meant something totally different, but now… :)

  3. Squashua Says:

    And don’t get me wrong, b/c I’d totally hit that.

  4. Nick Says:

    Yr 1, I guess that was the first time Donna had ever seen a boy, being the first time she’d left the island.

    The Annual - it was the age of free love, baby.

  5. Tom Bondurant Says:

    Aaron: I was citing the Marvel titles because (as I understand it) they were supposed to be in-continuity. For most of its run, LOTDK was out-of-continuity unless stated otherwise — smae for LOTDCU.

    Also, the bulk of JLAC stories have been about the Morrison-or-later League. Out of 49 issues, I count 6 devoted to the JLI, 4 to JL Detroit, and 2 to the Silver Age League. When 75% of your stories could have taken place within the past ten years, I don’t consider that retro.

  6. Tom Bondurant Says:

    Regarding Wonder Girl — like Nick, I’m going with a combination of “free love” and hormones for the Annual, and first-time-off-the-island for Year One.

  7. Mark Engblom Says:

    After leafing through the Titans book the other day, what struck me was how it seemed less like an attempt to fill in “grey area” continuity than it seemed to be an adaptation of some unseen straight-to-video animated version of the original Teen Titans. In other words, the “Teen Titans” series many fans would have preferred when the kiddie-friendly Anime version hit Cartoon Network.

    What primarily bolsters that view is the “fishy” design of Aqua-Lad, which doesn’t match up with anything in the current DCU Aqua-Lad’s past. Don’t get me wrong, I loved the Kerschl’s art….but the look just felt more like a one-off animated property than anything that may or may not be “canon”.

    I would think all “Year One” type projects should be taken with a big grain of salt anyway, in light of the looming “Final Crisis” hoo-hah. I mean, at the very least, we can probably expect another round of “Year One” type stories following what the title suggests.

  8. Sean W Says:

    Wait, JLA Classified is getting canned?! I knew one (or both) of the Confidential series were in trouble, but JLAC too?

    SO I take it JSA Classified is doomed too?

  9. Mark D. White Says:

    No word yet on JSA Classified that I’ve heard, but I think JLAC is done after the Stern/Byrne arc is over.

    Aren’t Supes Conf and Bats Conf still just rumored to be ending?

  10. Mark D. White Says:

    In any case, JSAC is different, because it’s not a retro book, but instead an individual spotlight book. (Though I for one would not mind some All-Star Squadron-ish tales from time to time, especially with the Liberty Belle connection.)

  11. Tom Bondurant Says:

    JLAC is the only title I know is cancelled. The last round of solicits have it ending with #54, the end of the current Stern/Byrne arc. The two issues of JLAC which came out in November each sold around 18,000 copies to retailers, and were #s 124 and 126. For November, JSAC was #127, with some 17,000 copies sold.

    For what it’s worth, JLA Classified is almost a biweekly title — 19 issues were published in 2007.

    Batman Conf. was #87 for November, with about 27,000 issues sold to retailers; and Supes Conf. was #97, with about 24,000. Both started in late 2006 with numbers of about 60,000.

    Marc-Oliver Frisch’s analysis of the November DC books

  12. Unknown Soldier Says:

    “Lately I’ve been struggling with the notion that I am too nostalgic.” -Tom Bondurant 01/10/08

    At least someone in the industry has admitted it. Now you can grow and move on.

    Now if only those many close minded (wannabe)unbiased reviewers would follow suite.

  13. CloverCoyle Says:

    JLA Classified is canceled? Aw shucks.

  14. bjooks Says:

    Cancelled, eh? Not surprised, and it’s about time. This book has moved far from the original premise — stories (past or present) by BIG name creators. But for too long it’s felt like the book where bad JLA stories go to die, even when they were (apparently?) commissioned for the book.

    Even though JSAC has a slightly different raison d’etre, it’s about in the same boat — the first storyline was great, but then it quickly slid, like JLAC, into an endless stream of what seems like filler material, stories that didn’t really have much reason to be told, stories that weren’t very good, but which were there because the books needed something to publish.

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