Hahahahaha … DROPPED

Man, I LOVE Ramos’ stuff. I’m really looking forward to this new run.

I actually like his work but without Whedon I won’t be picking up the title anymore.

You laugh pat but his work is published and read by thousands for a reason, can you say the same? Every artist has their own style and every fan their own tastes. I personally don’t like a lot of artists but they are still artists doing something I can’t and I respect them for that. There is no bad art only art that isn’t your style.

Oh brother.

Generally I don’t like Ramos. But I think he’s a better fit for Runaways than he was for Wolverine. I think his exaggerated, cartoony style works well with younger characters.

I do think his Niko is a bit off. The clothes look a less gothic and more foofy than Niko’s clothes usually look. Molly is adorable, though.

“There is no bad art only art that isn’t your style.”

To be fair, there is some pretty bad art out there. But Ramos has a very distinct style and I agree that what he does, he does well. It’s not like he can’t draw, just that he chooses draw in a way that’s not universally appealing. It was perfect for Impulse 10 years ago, but he’s rarely been matched with the right project since. I mean, DV8? What was somebody smoking? And he seemed out of place recently on Carey’s X-Men and his Messiah Complex chapters. I think he could work for the characters and tone of Runaways depending on the story, but his art is going to be an incredibly jarring shift from Michael Ryan. I can totally understand why people wouldn’t like it. Terry Moore’s superhero writing has never really worked for me but I’ll probably at least take a look when it hits.

I’ll give it a shot, but my god I’m not feeling this.

Oh hey, I remember Runaways! I used to really enjoy reading this title. Whatever happened to it?

Too cutesy.

Not that this is ever coming out, given that the last issues of Joss’ run are still not anywhere in sight.

So, Ramos is drawing what will be the Runaways Secret Invasion Tie-ins? Is that what we’re to assume here?

I agree with Rhuw about recognisability. Xavin was the only one I had trouble with, and that’s mainly because s/he’s a newer character that I tend to forget anyway.

Chase is a tall guy with slightly long hair and a goofy look. Niko has dark, spiky hair. Karolina is the pretty blonde. Molly is not just short, but adorable. They’re easy enough to pick out.

Looks cool to me. Has more personality than Ryan’s stuff, and hearkens back to Alphona.

Molly looks perfect!! Old Lace looks very, very cool. Only problems I have is with Nico too… she just looks like an anime Maid-SailorScout-Clown… person… *scratches head*

Molly’s looking a tad small for an 11, (possibly 12 now) year old, compared to a group of teenagers. She looks about 5 years old…

Not really a fan of most of these designs either. Nico looks clownish, even for a Ramos design, and I never really got the impression that Chase was supposed to have a big chinned, burly jock look. The core of Ramos art is exaggeration, and often it works. These just seem to be exaggerations in all the wrong places..

Those characters look very inhuman.

What about “Nico is underage” does he not get?

Also, I thought Old Lace was smaller than that.

If Moore uses the designs well the book could still be good but disgusting.

It’s always interesting to see another artist’s take on different characters. I personally always loved Ramos work. Should be interesting and refreshing to see where his art takes this book.

Christ I hate his style. I thought it might work for Runaways in a way that it didn’t work for X-Men, but it actually looks worse here. How depressing. Bring back Alphona, for the love of Pete.

I think this is the perfect art style for a book like Runaways. Molly, in particular, looks awesome. I’m looking forward to this run.

I will hold off final judgment until I see a completed issue, but lately I have not been I fan of Ramos’ work, especially in X-Men. I find these designs to be… questionable. The Runaways may be teen heroes but they’ve never really been cartoony like other teen books. Anyone else recall the train wreck that was the Runaways/X-Men FCBD book?

But, I remember loving his stuff on Impuse, so maybe he won’t be as bad as I’m dreading.

“I do see a lot of “gothic” girls dress like that (especially those tall-boot-chucks)…
I mean the gothic lolita thing she has been doing…seems like something she might wear out…to a club, or as a costume, or something…whereas this seems more casual.”

That’s the problem. This looks like clubwear, which doesn’t fit Nico.

I’ve just flipped through my Runaways TPBs. Nico sometimes wears elaborate flowy things and she sometimes wears casual stuff like jeans and t-shirt. And I’ve even found variations on that outfit in Ramos’ pic. There’s a book where she wears a white shirt and a tie. There’s a book where she wears a skirt and striped stockings.

The difference is that the skirts she’s worn in the past weren’t so short that she’d show her butt just barely bending over. And the shirt she wore with the tie was fairly loose fitting, not vacuum formed.

So it’s lots of little changes in the Ramos version that emphasize the ‘lolita’ way more than the ‘gothic’.

ramos needs to head back to his creator-owned stuff. ‘crimson’ was one of the best series of its time, and ‘out there’ wasn’t too shabby either.

i understand he needs to pay the bills (his wolverine run was bloody atrocious though) but yeah, i think marvel is entirely the wrong place for him to be.

perhaps jumping ship to dc to work on flash? legion of super heroes? teen titans?

only a suggestion jason.

runaways is much less capes/tights-centric than runaways is. methinks ramos’ art may suit the titans slightly more.

and with the (awful) run he’s been doing on x-men, they look like teenage versions of themselves anyways. it’s not a big step imagining him pencilling the titans.

i dunno. let’s completely turn things upside down and put him on punisher max.

How can you not like Molly?

i LOVE Ramos, and he’s a brilliant fit for this title. i may actually start picking up Runaways again just based on this.

Meen…i like the T-shirt

Hmmm…nnnnot a big fan of Ramos’ work at all except for “Revelations” (and that was as much about the moody coloring and texturing as it was his actual penciling, but I digress), buuut I’ve come to an understanding of his art. It’s exaggerated and expressive, which kinda works on a teen book as EVERYTHING in a teen’s life tends to be dramatic and expressive. I wouldn’t put him on a more straight laced book like Captain America or Superman, but the style may fit Runaways. When the book comes out. Someday. But count me in the camp that I HATE the big feet. I mean - isn’t that so…like…late ’90’s style? I’ll chance it.

To me, Ramos is simply amazing in everything he does. I like that he exaggerates his action poses, I love the big shoes and jackets, the big bright doe eyes on his females, gigantic explosions, bold outlines, and all of the cartoony flair it brings. Its fresh, its fun, and unique, and even those that are influenced by him can’t duplicate him completely. His style is kinetic and energetic, and the way he captures a splash… WOW. Look at Sinister… look at Gambit and Mystique… those close up’s are so bold… when I get to enjoy his work, I’m taken completely out of reality for the duration of the read! In particular, any book that harbors a “youth” quality Ramos was birthed to draw, and I have no doubt that Runaways will be one more great run for Mr. Humberto. People enjoy hating too much… I remember when Igor Kordey drew the Xmen… wipe my @$$ with that stuff!