So what did you think of the Heroes finale Monday night? I meant to ask this yesterday, but after watching it, I kind of had an “eh” feeling about the show.
Anyway, over at TVGuide.com, Heroes creator Tim Kring has some additional commentary on the episode, including the fates of Adam, Nathan, Nikki and Elle, not to mention volume three. Mike Gold, meanwhile, has some thoughts on the entire season:
I think I know what happened. I think the writers and producers read too many comics, and they picked up our worst habits. No, actually, our dumbest. “Death” is nothing more than a vacation. Villains are never truly defeated. Good guys are flawed to the point of dysfunction. Families are flawed to the point of dysfunction. Corporations are evil, doctors are morally ambiguous, and small children are uniformly wonderful.
So what did you think, of the episode and the season?
December 5th, 2007 at 9:14 am
My big problem with the season is that there were too many times - several per episode, it seems like - where my wife and I would be shouting at the TV things like, “Shoot him! Just shoot him! Just–Awww!”
Bennet, at least, can usually be relied upon to just shoot people when it’s time to just shoot people. Not always. And Niki was admirably direct in the last episode. But that’s about it.
I’m surprised that we got to the end of this arc without Elle killing Bob, or possibly forcing him to kill her.
Is there anyone who didn’t know Alejandro was a dead man the moment Sylar showed up?
I can’t express to you how disappointed I am that Sylar is still alive. I was done with him at the end of last season. Yes, yes; great villain, but I don’t need to see him ever again.
December 5th, 2007 at 9:52 am
Yeah, these guys totally f*ed this season up. Long boring stretches with characters we couldn’t care about if we tried, awful cheesy dialogue (esp. with Claire and her wooden boyfriend), and a serious stagnation where they were afraid to actually DO anything. There were no surprises and no dynamism, and it was some of the worst crap I’ve ever forced myself to watch.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:18 am
Obviously the previous posters have a touch of the hypercritical bug. While the end of Chapter 2 wasn’t as good as last season, the show exhibeted marked improvement over the last 5 episodes.
Adams “demise” at the hands of Hiro was incredible. I don’t believe for a minute that Nathan is dead, though I feel pretty sure Nikki is. HRG’s morallity, and moral compass, is as questionable as always.
The return of Sylar was welcome. It was a very good season finale, if that’s what it turns out to be.
And Albo, if you don’t like the show, change the channel. You “forced” yourself to watch it? Man, I feel sorry that you have to force yourself to do something you hate. Turn off the tube and read a book!
December 5th, 2007 at 10:29 am
I agree with the above. It started slow. Way slow. The romance aspect with Clare was horrid and when her dad told her to be “uninteresting” it seemed she did her best to do so. Hiro spent two weeks too long in Japan. And the new characters (with the exception of Monica and Adam) fell flat.
But over the last 5 weeks the pace picked up and it was an amazing show down to the end, although the end of the press conference was predictable.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:43 am
I thought the final episode was a little “meh.” It had good moments, like Jessica beating up that guy and Adam in the coffin. It also had something this that seemed kinda pointless, like Peter believing Adam no matter what and Jessica dying only because Monica got caught in a situation she should have been able to get out of.
Mainly, the final danger just seemed to easy. Sure, the vial contained an incredibly dangerous virus. But it was still a falling piece of glass. It didn’t seem that impressive and they edited it so the falling took forever. The threat just didn’t feel very threatening.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:45 am
Why are they even pretending Nathan is dead? All it will take is a drop of Claire’s blood and he’s fine! Hell, for all we know even Peter’s blood would work because he’s absorbed her powers. The show has invalidated the power of death over and over again, so to make a death the big climax of the season is beyond idiotic.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:46 am
*sigh* I miss LOST.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:01 am
I hadn’t really thought much about Nathan being shot, but after reading Albo’s post, I suddenly remembered that he already had Adam’s blood in his system. I wonder if that will help kick start his system.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:10 am
I liked it. ‘Nuff said.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:14 am
One thing I was left wondering, was what happened to the Irish Girl that Peter left in a future that won’t happen now. Talk about your time travel conundrums. This was about the same as the first season, not quite as good but same weird pacing and same ppl traveling all over the place with no travel time. The one thing I did really like is ppl were using their powers a lot more. It’s fun to watch Peter blast ppl with energy beams or electricity and telekinetics.
December 5th, 2007 at 11:16 am
Me Too. Heroes is still cool.
December 5th, 2007 at 12:45 pm
I think Nathan could be dead. We don’t know exactly how quickly Noah got Claire’s blood after being shot. Claire is several states away from Nathan. It could be that by the time someone got to her and got back, he’d be too far gone.
Plus, Nathan died very publicly. His body isn’t going to be rushed off to a secret location where people can do sneaky procedures.
The writers could work around these things and bring him back if they really wanted to. But if they don’t, it won’t be far fetched.
December 5th, 2007 at 12:47 pm
“I can’t express to you how disappointed I am that Sylar is still alive. I was done with him at the end of last season. Yes, yes; great villain, but I don’t need to see him ever again.”
If the Star Trek movie hit big numbers you won’t have to worry about that anymore.
December 5th, 2007 at 4:07 pm
Skyhawk…that is a moot issue with the writers striek going on and HEROES next “season” being pushed back now.
I liked the last eppy. I too thought things started slow, but finally got going with the last few weeks. Adam fates was wonderful. Couldnt happen to a better guy. We all knew that Sylar was going to get his powers back somehow once he was shown to be alive. So thats taken care of. And yes, we all figured out what poor Nathan’s fate was going to be. (Any ideas on who the gunman was. You could see him walking away from the camera down the hallway when they were showing the crowd. I think it is Noah. They made him do his 1st bad deed upon being back “in”.)
Man…now I have NOTHING to watch. Everything has been pushed back to late 2008! 8-(
(Battlestar, HEROES, LOST, 24)
December 5th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
I find it most interesting that the HEROES crew wanted us to all be talking about “Who Shot Nathan?”
But instead the central mystery was built on such a tired foundation that no one cares.
December 5th, 2007 at 6:40 pm
I care.
December 5th, 2007 at 7:16 pm
I agree about the last few episodes picking up the pace and providing some really cool moments. That being said, I thought this week’s finale episode had some holes that were just too big to ignore, like:
1) Adam and Peter walk into the Company’s Texas facility with hardly any kind of resistance … it houses a virus that could wipe out the entire world, and all it has guarding it are a few rent-a-cops? Geez, how are we not dead already …
2) Nathan wants to tell the world that he’s got powers, that he can fly, in a live press conference … so they hold it indoors where he really can’t show off his powers.
3) Again with the press conference, Nathan is flanked on one side by a guy who can read minds, and on the other side by a guy who can read minds, bend space and time, fire electric bolts … and somehow Noah (that’s who I think that was, the shooter) gets into the building and gets the drop on all of them? Oh yeah, and they’re inside a police station, to boot.
4) The “Claire’s blood as a cure-all for everyone” plot device has already worn out its welcome.
5) They revived Maya. I gave my wife a high five when she died, and had to take it back. Actually I could have overlooked everything else I’ve mentioned if they had left her dead.
On the cool side, I liked Elle going after Sylar. I had her pegged as the one who would die, and I’m kind of glad she didn’t.
December 6th, 2007 at 7:44 pm
I don’t think too much when I watch this show. There are times when it’s frustratingly way too slow and a few of the new characters I really don’t care about. I’m sick of Claire. The final 4-5 episodes were decent. I find myself tuning in on a weekly basis grudgingly. I dislike NBC and their overhyped commercial copy. “The show…with the greatest cliffhangers…etc.” or some such thing… I’m also sick of them slapping the NBC peacock logo all over the place on all the shows.